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Sun Nov-08-09 03:57 PM
Response to Reply #90 |
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There is no "perfect."
Some of us prefer neither "bad" nor "worse."
We'd like the good to be the enemy of the "lesser evil."
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| -Why does there seem to be more hatred for Dennis rather than Stupak? |
EndersDame |
Nov-08-09 12:57 AM |
#0 |
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Maybe centrists hate progressives more than they like women? |
Oregone |
Nov-08-09 12:58 AM |
#1 |
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maybe realists |
paulsby |
Nov-08-09 02:05 AM |
#47 |
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Misogyny is now "realism"? What other bigotry are you proud to support? |
bluetrain |
Nov-08-09 04:30 AM |
#77 |
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ooooh. impressive rhetoric |
paulsby |
Nov-08-09 04:52 AM |
#78 |
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I think that's obvious and I don't understand why you're advocating hatred on a progressive board. |
bluetrain |
Nov-08-09 05:37 AM |
#81 |
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Further Hyperbole Is Not A Way To Reinforce A Point |
ProfessorGAC |
Nov-08-09 05:52 AM |
#83 |
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it's a way to show the op is rubbish |
paulsby |
Nov-08-09 03:53 PM |
#128 |
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I think it made you look bad. It didn't make the OP look bad at all. That's my opinion. |
John Q. Citizen |
Nov-08-09 11:58 PM |
#147 |
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really you don't? |
JetCityLiberal |
Nov-08-09 12:23 PM |
#123 |
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cite one |
paulsby |
Nov-08-09 03:54 PM |
#129 |
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who are you talking about? |
paulsby |
Nov-08-09 03:52 PM |
#127 |
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Ah. Yes. Selling out 50% of America was worth the stupid bill passing. |
Daemonaquila |
Nov-08-09 11:26 PM |
#144 |
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Good question. I'm interested in learning the answer |
JVS |
Nov-08-09 12:58 AM |
#2 |
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It's a fair question. n/t |
Mojambo |
Nov-08-09 01:00 AM |
#3 |
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Dennis is the real Democrat - |
waiting for hope |
Nov-08-09 01:00 AM |
#4 |
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Those that are so willingly to and ignorantly vote against their own interests |
underseasurveyor |
Nov-08-09 01:50 AM |
#39 |
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i loathe this meme |
paulsby |
Nov-08-09 02:07 AM |
#51 |
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Loathe all you want to.. Doesn't make it not true |
underseasurveyor |
Nov-08-09 02:50 AM |
#61 |
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and people ALSO vote against themselves |
paulsby |
Nov-08-09 03:44 AM |
#65 |
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Perhaps it's worded it poorly |
underseasurveyor |
Nov-08-09 12:22 PM |
#122 |
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I agree, and that is why I admire people like Kucinich. |
sabrina 1 |
Nov-08-09 04:12 PM |
#133 |
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The higher principle here is that abortion should be covered. |
Kalyke |
Nov-10-09 11:52 AM |
#161 |
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That's a very good question |
Sebastian Doyle |
Nov-08-09 01:00 AM |
#5 |
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Because there are so many here who will not be affected by the Stupak Amendment... |
Jamastiene |
Nov-08-09 01:01 AM |
#6 |
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I think that it is becoming very common, even here, |
ThomCat |
Nov-08-09 01:12 AM |
#19 |
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There you go! |
Mari333 |
Nov-08-09 04:56 AM |
#79 |
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Good point. |
juno jones |
Nov-08-09 10:01 AM |
#89 |
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once again, I wish I could recommend a reply |
varelse |
Nov-08-09 12:25 PM |
#124 |
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Thanks |
juno jones |
Nov-08-09 08:00 PM |
#141 |
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+100. nt. |
druidity33 |
Nov-08-09 06:45 PM |
#138 |
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Thank you. n/t |
juno jones |
Nov-08-09 08:01 PM |
#142 |
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I'm disappointed, but I certainly don't hate him. He's a good congressman. n/t |
cynatnite |
Nov-08-09 01:01 AM |
#7 |
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I usually stay out of GD , I realized later on that any internet message board would be filled with |
EndersDame |
Nov-08-09 01:42 AM |
#36 |
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The vitriol is way out of hand tonight...people are eating their young just about... |
cynatnite |
Nov-08-09 01:49 AM |
#38 |
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wish I knew...but its nothing new here at DU... |
Desertrose |
Nov-08-09 01:01 AM |
#8 |
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because too many are Democrats, rather than progressives. |
provis99 |
Nov-08-09 01:02 AM |
#9 |
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My guess? |
flvegan |
Nov-08-09 01:03 AM |
#10 |
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I have always maintained Kucinich isn't radical he is sensible and logical |
EndersDame |
Nov-08-09 01:12 AM |
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He's framed as radical by both the right and wanna-be left. |
flvegan |
Nov-08-09 01:16 AM |
#23 |
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wish I could recommend your response.... |
mike_c |
Nov-08-09 11:35 AM |
#117 |
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Because many support misogyny? And many feel women are dispensible. |
saracat |
Nov-08-09 01:03 AM |
#11 |
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Because DK makes their favorite politician look bad in the realms of ethics and courage. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Nov-08-09 01:06 AM |
#12 |
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I think you're correct. |
DemBones DemBones |
Nov-08-09 04:23 AM |
#74 |
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No One Here, Ma'am, Is Putting Up Praise Of The Wretch Stupak, or His Reasons For His Actions |
The Magistrate |
Nov-08-09 01:06 AM |
#13 |
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I was dealing with puppy issues earlier. I also try to avoid GD |
EndersDame |
Nov-08-09 01:25 AM |
#26 |
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Understood, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
Nov-08-09 01:37 AM |
#34 |
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Seconded with enthusiasm. |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 01:41 AM |
#35 |
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Very well stated |
HughMoran |
Nov-08-09 10:21 AM |
#96 |
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Deft and to the point, Magistrate. I will just add that I fear Kucinich was exercising his own |
CTyankee |
Nov-08-09 04:05 PM |
#132 |
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To argue that "it would have cost him nothing" is unknowable. Perhaps it would have cost you |
John Q. Citizen |
Nov-09-09 08:09 AM |
#148 |
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His Integrity And Self-Respect, Sir? Lord, The Vapors Are Upon Me, Where Is My Couch.... |
The Magistrate |
Nov-09-09 05:25 PM |
#155 |
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Thanks for stating what should be obvious to anybody following the debate |
HughMoran |
Nov-08-09 10:19 AM |
#94 |
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Thank you. |
redqueen |
Nov-10-09 11:48 AM |
#160 |
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I think this is a strawman argument. And flame bait for that matter. Stupak is an idiot |
emulatorloo |
Nov-08-09 01:06 AM |
#14 |
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+1 |
DarthDem |
Nov-08-09 01:10 AM |
#18 |
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I really dont want it to be flame bait . I see alot of threads trashing DK |
EndersDame |
Nov-08-09 01:14 AM |
#21 |
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lol, earlier I called him: |
tmyers09 |
Nov-08-09 01:24 AM |
#25 |
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I'm disappointed in DK's vote, but I feel no "hatred" for him. There may be a handful who are angry |
emulatorloo |
Nov-08-09 01:29 AM |
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I can see that , I just think the haters are a pretty loud bunch |
EndersDame |
Nov-08-09 01:30 AM |
#29 |
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LOL there are lots of loudmouths on DU. |
emulatorloo |
Nov-08-09 01:31 AM |
#30 |
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i was called a parasite cause i believe in what he stands for... oh well... |
madrchsod |
Nov-08-09 01:07 AM |
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K&R |
Libertas1776 |
Nov-08-09 01:08 AM |
#16 |
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DLC Dems Truly Despise Real Democrats! |
ProleNoMore |
Nov-08-09 01:08 AM |
#17 |
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+1 |
Individualist |
Nov-08-09 10:08 AM |
#91 |
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He looks drunk in that photo |
ecstatic |
Nov-08-09 01:14 AM |
#22 |
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I assure you he was not. My mom took me to the event because I was apathetic about voting |
EndersDame |
Nov-08-09 01:19 AM |
#24 |
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you have a cool mom! n/t |
emulatorloo |
Nov-08-09 01:30 AM |
#28 |
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A drunk elf.? |
johnnie |
Nov-08-09 01:35 AM |
#33 |
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"well at least Im not ugly"- what my lil sis used to say to me when we re little |
EndersDame |
Nov-08-09 01:45 AM |
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You are beautiful! I love your olive skin. . . |
B Calm |
Nov-08-09 04:27 AM |
#75 |
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Because political movements and great policies are won with discipline |
grantcart |
Nov-08-09 01:32 AM |
#31 |
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* * * |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 01:33 AM |
#32 |
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come on? Discipline? Discipline? OMFG!!! |
Go2Peace |
Nov-08-09 02:06 AM |
#49 |
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Thou speaks of nothing, cousin. Given the choice of a perfect piece of |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 02:30 AM |
#56 |
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And you really thing this legislation represents great policy and a disciplined party?????? |
Go2Peace |
Nov-08-09 01:58 AM |
#42 |
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You mean do I agree |
grantcart |
Nov-08-09 02:13 AM |
#52 |
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As an old leftie that opposed the Vietnam War, I appreciated your comment. |
CTyankee |
Nov-08-09 04:26 PM |
#134 |
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Becaust Dittocrats care more about winning at politics |
Fading Captain |
Nov-08-09 01:51 AM |
#40 |
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++++++ |
Go2Peace |
Nov-08-09 02:07 AM |
#50 |
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Love that word and will be adopting it. n/t |
Starry Messenger |
Nov-08-09 09:41 AM |
#88 |
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There are a shitload of DINOS here on DU. nt |
earth mom |
Nov-08-09 01:54 AM |
#41 |
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List them. |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 01:59 AM |
#43 |
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FYI-Calling out names is against DU rules. But nice try-NOT! nt |
earth mom |
Nov-08-09 02:01 AM |
#44 |
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It's just that we're so tantalized by your secret list. |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 02:03 AM |
#45 |
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Let me just say I find GD-P highly suspect. nt |
earth mom |
Nov-08-09 02:04 AM |
#46 |
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It's the walrus mustaches, isn't it? |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 02:05 AM |
#48 |
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By 'DINO', Sir, the Lady Means People Who Support The Leaders Of The Democratic Party |
The Magistrate |
Nov-08-09 02:27 AM |
#54 |
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Top of the evening to you, good sir. |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 02:34 AM |
#57 |
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Thank You, Sir. a Pleasure To Make Your Acquaintance |
The Magistrate |
Nov-08-09 02:48 AM |
#60 |
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Nicely rendered. |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 02:52 AM |
#63 |
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Which used to be against the rules. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-08-09 02:34 AM |
#58 |
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We Did Used To Ride It Tighter, Ma'am.... |
The Magistrate |
Nov-08-09 02:50 AM |
#62 |
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Magistrate, how long have you been here? I remember it *always* being this way |
Go2Peace |
Nov-08-09 03:59 AM |
#68 |
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Since Late 2001, Sir |
The Magistrate |
Nov-08-09 04:12 AM |
#70 |
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Mind if I re-use that last paragraph? |
HughMoran |
Nov-08-09 10:30 AM |
#103 |
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Not only perfectly described but the God's honest truth as well. |
Number23 |
Nov-08-09 07:28 PM |
#140 |
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But disagreement is something others have a right to |
Toasterlad |
Nov-09-09 09:12 AM |
#152 |
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Your Comment, Sir, Illustrates The Point Well |
The Magistrate |
Nov-10-09 11:12 AM |
#156 |
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The Difference Is, I Give Credit Where Credit Is Due, And They Won't Assign Blame. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-10-09 12:15 PM |
#165 |
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Nor, Sir, Does Pretending Some Of His Critics Do Not Answer To the Same Description |
The Magistrate |
Nov-10-09 12:29 PM |
#167 |
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I Didn't Make That Claim. I Merely Suggested That There Are Far More Unreasonable Cheerleaders |
Toasterlad |
Nov-10-09 12:32 PM |
#168 |
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And That Perception, Sir, Does Not Strike Me As Accurate |
The Magistrate |
Nov-10-09 12:36 PM |
#170 |
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That's Certainly a Matter of Perception. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-10-09 12:46 PM |
#171 |
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Your Second Paragraph, Sir, Describes Me To A Tee |
The Magistrate |
Nov-10-09 12:58 PM |
#176 |
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"altered the social compact of the place considerably" |
Ignis |
Nov-10-09 12:56 PM |
#174 |
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Don't forget those who also attacked him |
Number23 |
Nov-08-09 07:25 PM |
#139 |
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And you see that in my posts where? I have been fairly general in terminology |
Go2Peace |
Nov-08-09 03:56 AM |
#67 |
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Your Comments Were Not Addressed, Sir: Those Of Ms. EarthMom, Commencing At No. 41, Were |
The Magistrate |
Nov-08-09 04:20 AM |
#71 |
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Yep, I confused threads. Sorry about that. |
Go2Peace |
Nov-08-09 05:18 AM |
#80 |
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A DINO, by definition, is one who claims to be a Democrat but votes with Republicans |
scheming daemons |
Nov-08-09 02:29 AM |
#55 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-08-09 04:01 AM |
#69 |
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lol |
HughMoran |
Nov-08-09 10:27 AM |
#100 |
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Wrong name, bucko! |
Daemonaquila |
Nov-08-09 11:33 PM |
#146 |
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Neither Kucinich nor Stupak can be considered DINOs. |
Tommy_Carcetti |
Nov-10-09 12:48 PM |
#172 |
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Stupak is not controversial on DU, Dennis is |
Hippo_Tron |
Nov-08-09 02:18 AM |
#53 |
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The operative word is "seems" |
ashling |
Nov-08-09 02:35 AM |
#59 |
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I trust him |
G_j |
Nov-08-09 03:00 AM |
#64 |
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He is a man of integrity and is very genuine |
EndersDame |
Nov-08-09 12:41 PM |
#126 |
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Our corrupt party leaders, embodied by the DLC, hate real liberals. Great picture, |
Vidar |
Nov-08-09 03:53 AM |
#66 |
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DK sparks strong contempt among those who pathologically HATE the "loony" Left |
Echo In Light |
Nov-08-09 06:35 AM |
#84 |
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Thank you! |
EndersDame |
Nov-08-09 10:27 AM |
#99 |
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They got rid of Edwards, |
cornermouse |
Nov-08-09 04:21 AM |
#72 |
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No. Edwards got rid of Edwards. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-08-09 04:22 AM |
#73 |
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No one I know took Edwards' wiener out of his britches. I think he managed |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 09:35 AM |
#86 |
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Different people, different tactics. |
cornermouse |
Nov-08-09 10:16 AM |
#92 |
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I'm defending a bill my party advanced in the 111th Congress. |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 10:22 AM |
#97 |
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Its not about what's good for the party. |
cornermouse |
Nov-08-09 11:00 AM |
#109 |
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I passed that marker on the highway some decards ago, cornermouse. |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 11:02 AM |
#110 |
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We're going to have to disagree vehemently then, apparently. |
cornermouse |
Nov-08-09 11:03 AM |
#111 |
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Ok. I'd still buy you a cold beer, though. |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 11:04 AM |
#112 |
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cornermouse |
Nov-08-09 11:06 AM |
#113 |
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. |
HughMoran |
Nov-08-09 10:33 AM |
#106 |
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Aren't you starting to lose count of all the personal attacks you've launched this morning? |
cornermouse |
Nov-08-09 10:58 AM |
#108 |
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No one is defending Stupak's amendment. But plenty of people are defending Kucinich's vote. n/t |
Unvanguard |
Nov-08-09 04:28 AM |
#76 |
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Because some are for passing anything and conservatives |
mmonk |
Nov-08-09 05:42 AM |
#82 |
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I think they are both annoying for different reasons. In the end, |
CBR |
Nov-08-09 06:36 AM |
#85 |
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I don't dislike either of them. |
Tommy_Carcetti |
Nov-08-09 09:37 AM |
#87 |
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Because like the rest of the purists he lets the perfect be the enemy of the good |
Egnever |
Nov-08-09 10:02 AM |
#90 |
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Those who accept and encourage mediocrity are the enemy of excellence.. |
Individualist |
Nov-08-09 10:17 AM |
#93 |
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sorry but I dont buy that |
Egnever |
Nov-08-09 10:20 AM |
#95 |
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Of course you don't. |
Individualist |
Nov-08-09 10:25 AM |
#98 |
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Good expression |
HughMoran |
Nov-08-09 10:34 AM |
#107 |
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No. |
LWolf |
Nov-08-09 03:57 PM |
#131 |
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Who is Stupak? (maybe there's your answer-I haven't seen Stupak on TV... |
Honeycombe8 |
Nov-08-09 10:29 AM |
#101 |
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Not sure what you are seeing. |
MadBadger |
Nov-08-09 10:29 AM |
#102 |
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Because healthcare reform will save the lives of 40,000 people each year. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-08-09 10:31 AM |
#104 |
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I don't see it that way |
itsrobert |
Nov-08-09 10:32 AM |
#105 |
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It boggles the mind, doesn't it? n/t |
Cleita |
Nov-08-09 11:08 AM |
#114 |
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Both Kucinich and Stupak have voting records of over 90% with the Democratic Party. |
Tommy_Carcetti |
Nov-08-09 11:33 AM |
#115 |
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You would think so if you were against abortion rights. n/t |
D23MIURG23 |
Nov-08-09 12:02 PM |
#120 |
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+1 |
Kaleva |
Nov-10-09 11:30 AM |
#157 |
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Stupak is the worst kind of DINO |
Ardent15 |
Nov-08-09 11:34 AM |
#116 |
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DINO = |
Tommy_Carcetti |
Nov-09-09 09:21 AM |
#154 |
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I haven't seen any "Fuck you Dennis" threads posted today. |
D23MIURG23 |
Nov-08-09 11:58 AM |
#118 |
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Last night was pretty bad. I think it is ok to disagree with his position |
EndersDame |
Nov-08-09 12:12 PM |
#121 |
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Through all of this, I am sorry the hate got to you. It should not be this way when you are 18. |
CTyankee |
Nov-08-09 06:28 PM |
#137 |
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I understand national politics will break my heart just want to know why all the hate on an internet |
EndersDame |
Nov-08-09 11:01 PM |
#143 |
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True, it is the Internet where people can hide behind anonymity which frees some folks up |
CTyankee |
Nov-09-09 08:12 AM |
#149 |
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Love for Dennis-- |
roody |
Nov-08-09 11:59 AM |
#119 |
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People miss Vegas World? |
rucky |
Nov-08-09 12:26 PM |
#125 |
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Because too many Democrats |
LWolf |
Nov-08-09 03:56 PM |
#130 |
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What would constant losing gain one? |
Kaleva |
Nov-10-09 12:14 PM |
#164 |
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Another theory. |
Doremus |
Nov-08-09 05:27 PM |
#135 |
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I don't hate either of them |
treestar |
Nov-08-09 06:01 PM |
#136 |
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Because he was right and inside they know it. n/t |
Greyhound |
Nov-08-09 11:31 PM |
#145 |
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Stupak is a member of the C street gang |
Mari333 |
Nov-09-09 08:13 AM |
#150 |
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Dennis Drives the Centrists Crazy |
Toasterlad |
Nov-09-09 09:08 AM |
#151 |
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Stupak was predictable |
h9socialist |
Nov-09-09 09:20 AM |
#153 |
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follow the money |
branders seine |
Nov-10-09 11:41 AM |
#158 |
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Stupak is consistant and doesn't surprise anyone |
Kaleva |
Nov-10-09 11:47 AM |
#159 |
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Because No One Is Questioning The Assholery Of Stupak. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Nov-10-09 12:07 PM |
#162 |
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DK is not the problem with the Democratic party. |
Ganja Ninja |
Nov-10-09 12:13 PM |
#163 |
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Because, basically, they support the Stupak bill |
freddie mertz |
Nov-10-09 12:22 PM |
#166 |
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it's this simple. a group of kucinich dems have gone on day after day after day, |
dionysus |
Nov-10-09 12:32 PM |
#169 |
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Can't I hate them both for being idiots? |
WonderGrunion |
Nov-10-09 12:51 PM |
#173 |
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There's more hatred for Dennis because there's a lot more love for him. |
JackRiddler |
Nov-10-09 12:57 PM |
#175 |
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They don't know Stupak works on behalf of "The Family" who call themselves The Christian Mafia |
Overseas |
Nov-10-09 12:59 PM |
#177 |
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It's the Kool-Aid gang. |
Beacool |
Nov-10-09 01:00 PM |
#178 |
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