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Sun Nov-08-09 12:47 AM
Response to Reply #67 |
| 68. One works in legislation with what one has, and the bill that passed |
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tonight passed narrowly.
I reassert that Kucinich knew the vote would be close, that he knew it might fail, and he appeared to me to have his "principled" statement of why he opposed it long pre-written.
It would have cost him very little indeed to advance this legislation with his one vote.
I'm disappointed in his impulse to allow his personal ego to triumph over what many of his entirely progressive colleagues found quite supportable.
Shame on him.
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| -Bad Dennis. |
saltpoint |
Nov-07-09 11:01 PM |
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Which way did he vote? /nt |
still_one |
Nov-07-09 11:02 PM |
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against. bunch of other threads already up. nt |
Muttocracy |
Nov-07-09 11:03 PM |
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Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, Dennis is a lot like Ralph Nader. He would throw out the baby |
still_one |
Nov-07-09 11:07 PM |
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yeah, the perfect being the enemy of the good. nt |
Muttocracy |
Nov-07-09 11:37 PM |
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nahh, the bad is the enemy of the good. perfect wasn't involved in this one. nt |
Truth2Tell |
Nov-08-09 12:01 AM |
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you're misunderstanding the metaphor - I'm sure DK is supporting the perfect. nt |
Muttocracy |
Nov-08-09 12:03 AM |
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No, I'm not. I'm pretty sure Dennis would support |
Truth2Tell |
Nov-08-09 12:31 AM |
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OK, I hope DK gets his perfect legislation passed. nt |
Muttocracy |
Nov-08-09 12:32 AM |
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Are you being deliberately obtuse? |
Truth2Tell |
Nov-08-09 12:42 AM |
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Like the Douchebags (incl. Dennis) who failed to support HR 811 for voter-verified paper ballots... |
Yellow Horse |
Nov-08-09 12:39 AM |
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He voted with the Republicans |
WeDidIt |
Nov-07-09 11:03 PM |
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Yes, he disappointed me tonight. n/t |
cynatnite |
Nov-07-09 11:03 PM |
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Nah. |
aquart |
Nov-07-09 11:07 PM |
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I still wish he had, but you made a very good point. Thanks. n/t |
cynatnite |
Nov-07-09 11:10 PM |
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And a Dem majority that whittled away the reform bill doesn't dissapoint? |
Go2Peace |
Nov-08-09 12:41 AM |
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As effective as Kosher cook in a sausage factory n/t |
Xipe Totec |
Nov-07-09 11:05 PM |
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MAybe he and Michelle Bachman and Virginia Foxx can meet to plot strategy together |
bluestateguy |
Nov-07-09 11:05 PM |
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You dare question a DU God!!! |
elocs |
Nov-07-09 11:05 PM |
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"Asbestos underwear" ! LOL. I don't have any of those, and I'm fresh out |
saltpoint |
Nov-07-09 11:07 PM |
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Read WHY he voted no... |
LiberalHeart |
Nov-07-09 11:06 PM |
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but the question is, his proposals wouldn't pass today, and too many people with |
still_one |
Nov-07-09 11:08 PM |
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I agree with you, but it's not like he was siding with the GOP. He was voting his conscience. |
LiberalHeart |
Nov-07-09 11:18 PM |
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I think he was voting his ego. He can only be a big contrarian as he |
saltpoint |
Nov-07-09 11:21 PM |
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+100 |
billh58 |
Nov-07-09 11:44 PM |
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Unfortunately his conscience won't pay the medical bills of his constituents |
Bumblebee |
Nov-07-09 11:37 PM |
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I never said he was voting with the GOP, and I agree with your assessment /nt |
still_one |
Nov-07-09 11:43 PM |
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I have, and I won't alter my assessment. |
saltpoint |
Nov-07-09 11:08 PM |
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DeMint publicly threatened to kill health care legislation to deny Obama |
saltpoint |
Nov-07-09 11:06 PM |
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He has always been that way, same as Ralph Nader. They want a minimum requirement |
still_one |
Nov-07-09 11:13 PM |
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Agreed. We see in Kucinich's "principled" vote his naked ego. |
saltpoint |
Nov-07-09 11:16 PM |
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I'm betting with a post like that you are going to make a lot of ignore lists. |
elocs |
Nov-07-09 11:31 PM |
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LOL. It would be an honor to be on the ignore lists of people who |
saltpoint |
Nov-07-09 11:34 PM |
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Although I would not say the same of his better half. |
elocs |
Nov-07-09 11:39 PM |
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LOL. |
saltpoint |
Nov-07-09 11:41 PM |
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come on now. |
Go2Peace |
Nov-08-09 12:43 AM |
#67 |
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One works in legislation with what one has, and the bill that passed |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 12:47 AM |
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Let's just say I trust his assessment of the situation over yours. |
LeftyMom |
Nov-07-09 11:13 PM |
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Fine. Move to his district and volunteer for him. I'll be contributing |
saltpoint |
Nov-07-09 11:16 PM |
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Honey, I wouldn't move to Ohio if they elected Jesus Christ to congress. |
LeftyMom |
Nov-07-09 11:32 PM |
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If he's all that persuasive, though, LeftyMom, what happened to those |
saltpoint |
Nov-07-09 11:37 PM |
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Who said anything about persuasive? He's right. |
LeftyMom |
Nov-07-09 11:52 PM |
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'Persuasive' matters in the Congress. |
saltpoint |
Nov-07-09 11:54 PM |
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Bush was persuasive. He was a fucking idiot but he was able to persuade other idiots. |
LeftyMom |
Nov-08-09 12:00 AM |
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Republic can become empire, and principle can become ego. |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 12:03 AM |
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I agree with you completely Lefty Mom |
Desertrose |
Nov-08-09 12:10 AM |
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"Kucinich has a very good track record of being right" but what about getting things done? |
Muttocracy |
Nov-08-09 12:20 AM |
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At least the bill gives a fighting chance to those with pre-existing conditions, where they |
still_one |
Nov-07-09 11:21 PM |
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He's an attention-seeking little shit! |
Odin2005 |
Nov-07-09 11:18 PM |
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My first UNrec EVER. |
bertman |
Nov-07-09 11:32 PM |
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Pleased to have earned it. |
saltpoint |
Nov-07-09 11:33 PM |
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I notice the other "progressives" folded like a cheap suit and voted for this bill. |
provis99 |
Nov-07-09 11:49 PM |
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It would be a better shake for everyone if the U.S. media would offer |
saltpoint |
Nov-07-09 11:52 PM |
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knr your comment nt |
slipslidingaway |
Nov-08-09 12:03 AM |
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no biscuit |
HughMoran |
Nov-08-09 12:05 AM |
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Hi, HughMoran. |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 12:11 AM |
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lol - I like his punishment |
HughMoran |
Nov-08-09 12:14 AM |
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If he's going to be a public servant, IMO, he needs to shrink his personal ego. |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 12:17 AM |
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Bravo for Dennis and integrity. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-08-09 12:12 AM |
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The real work is done by those inside, not outside, and Kucinich is |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 12:14 AM |
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If he runs he gets my vote. To hell with a rotten bill bought and paid for by lobbyists. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-08-09 12:18 AM |
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The debate, IMO, is not whether the bill is pretty. The debate is over |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 12:20 AM |
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There'll be pie in the sky when you die. Doled out by the lobbyists who bought this bill. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-08-09 12:22 AM |
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An interesting question might be why Ted Kennedy, quite the liberal, |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 12:26 AM |
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“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-08-09 12:31 AM |
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If "I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all" |
Libertas1776 |
Nov-08-09 12:34 AM |
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When one runs for a seat in Congress, it is the Congress one must vow to |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 12:34 AM |
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You prefer Democrats who cave to the right at the drop of campaign contribution? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-08-09 12:38 AM |
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The Congress meets in a big building in DC where bills are forged. |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 12:41 AM |
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Demanding party loyalty in the face of corruption isn't "purist"? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-08-09 01:06 AM |
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How to find a society without some degree of corruption. |
saltpoint |
Nov-08-09 01:12 AM |
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