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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:31 AM
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99. let's try not to be an idiot here--are you so freaking clueless that you really don't understand the
issues? "not medically necessary"? do you unnderstand about things like, say, ectopic pregnancies? rape? toxemia?

apparently you belong to the kyl crowd, "I can't get pregnant, so it isn't important."

I pray to the goddess that any woman with whom you are involved never has to face thinking about an abortion, because she sure isn't going to get any support from you.

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  -Quick Question: Is abortion covered under the Canadian plan or British NHS? Shagbark Hickory  Nov-07-09 03:54 PM   #0 
  - Yes, down with recreational and cosmetic abortions.  Kurt_and_Hunter   Nov-07-09 03:55 PM   #1 
  - Translation  Warpy   Nov-07-09 04:02 PM   #7 
  - A pregnancy is a disease or malfunction?  imdjh   Nov-07-09 04:19 PM   #22 
     - It's a dangerous enterprise that shouldn't be accomplished unaided  Warpy   Nov-07-09 05:20 PM   #61 
     - I'll be happy when people no longer feel that they are entitled  me b zola   Nov-07-09 06:20 PM   #65 
     - A non sequitur.  imdjh   Nov-07-09 07:00 PM   #71 
     - It's a condition  JerseygirlCT   Nov-07-09 07:23 PM   #82 
  - If I eat in my car and accidently spill food and drinks and stain my upholstery, should new ...  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-07-09 04:03 PM   #8 
  - Are you kidding?  PeaceNikki   Nov-07-09 04:06 PM   #12 
  - There are plenty of legal medical procedures which aren't covered by insurance.  imdjh   Nov-07-09 04:16 PM   #19 
  - So... are you saying abortion is like a cosmetic nose job or a broken nose nose job?  PeaceNikki   Nov-07-09 04:19 PM   #21 
     - There are elective abortions and medically necessary abortions.  imdjh   Nov-07-09 04:22 PM   #25 
        - And the pregnancy could also be deemed "elective".  PeaceNikki   Nov-07-09 04:36 PM   #34 
           - One you're pregnant, it's elected.  imdjh   Nov-07-09 04:37 PM   #35 
              - Not as long as we have "choice" in this country. But I see you're not a fan of that.  PeaceNikki   Nov-07-09 04:37 PM   #36 
                 - I haven't said a word about choice.  imdjh   Nov-07-09 04:44 PM   #41 
                    - They are medically necessary. Or don't you consider a woman not wanting to carry the child  PeaceNikki   Nov-07-09 04:48 PM   #45 
                    - Should insurance companies cover "elective" labor?  noamnety   Nov-07-09 11:12 PM   #90 
  - There is a joke about upholstery stains here but I am so stunned  Warren Stupidity   Nov-07-09 04:38 PM   #37 
     - An unwanted pregnancy is just like an upholstery stain.  PeaceNikki   Nov-07-09 04:53 PM   #48 
  - If you eat junk food all the time, should a heart bypass operation be  Cass   Nov-07-09 04:34 PM   #32 
  - Thinking of pregnancy as a disease is pretty fucked up.  imdjh   Nov-07-09 04:36 PM   #33 
  - Thinking that you know better than a woman and her doctor is fucked up.  PeaceNikki   Nov-07-09 04:39 PM   #38 
  - Nope, not saying that at all. Just pointing out that there are other conditions caused by one's  Cass   Nov-07-09 04:45 PM   #42 
     - That might be something to talk about if my position was "You got fucked now live with it." but ...  imdjh   Nov-07-09 04:51 PM   #47 
        - My original comment was directed to another poster who was making the point that  Cass   Nov-07-09 06:39 PM   #68 
  - actually my medical insurance refused to pay for an auto accident I was in recently  dsc   Nov-07-09 05:00 PM   #53 
     - At this rate, I woudn't be surprised if they wouldn't.  Cass   Nov-07-09 06:49 PM   #70 
        - the other driver's insurance did cover since, thank God, it was nothing  dsc   Nov-07-09 07:11 PM   #76 
           - Glad to hear it wasn't anything more serious, dsc, and that your treatment was  Cass   Nov-07-09 07:21 PM   #80 
  - Jeeeeeeeeeez....  Hepburn   Nov-07-09 05:01 PM   #55 
  - Two times.  Jazzgirl   Nov-07-09 06:35 PM   #67 
  - And spilling food on your upholstery has what to do with  Jazzgirl   Nov-07-09 06:33 PM   #66 
  - let's try not to be an idiot here--are you so freaking clueless that you really don't understand the  niyad   Nov-08-09 10:31 AM   #99 
  - What would be another way of saying it?  imdjh   Nov-07-09 04:14 PM   #17 
     - The proper term for an abortion that is not medically necessary is "elective abortion"  slackmaster   Nov-07-09 04:33 PM   #31 
  - Stupak wants the Hyde Amendment  sandnsea   Nov-07-09 03:56 PM   #2 
  - No, he wants to go further than just the Hyde amendment.  madfloridian   Nov-07-09 03:57 PM   #4 
  - If I get pregnant and don't want to have the baby, abortion is a medical necessity.  Hello_Kitty   Nov-07-09 03:57 PM   #3 
  - OK Bad choice of words but please either answer the question or have the debate somewhere else.  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-07-09 04:00 PM   #5 
  - So you want to control women's choices in medical care?  madfloridian   Nov-07-09 04:01 PM   #6 
     - NO! I advocate getting abortions. I think many more people should get them, believe me.  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-07-09 04:05 PM   #11 
        - As long as abortion remains a legal, constitutionally protected medical procedure,  PeaceNikki   Nov-07-09 04:07 PM   #13 
        - *facepalm* (nt)  Posteritatis   Nov-07-09 04:16 PM   #18 
        - Pay out of pocket? Well, ain't that some nerve.......  Darth_Kitten   Nov-08-09 09:50 AM   #97 
  - That's called an elective abortion. Medically necessary would be if it were medically necessary.  imdjh   Nov-07-09 04:17 PM   #20 
     - Not when every single pregnancy holds the risk of death or injury.  Lars39   Nov-07-09 04:21 PM   #23 
     - dated rhetoric  imdjh   Nov-07-09 04:26 PM   #27 
        - Go to the Guttmacher Institute for the latest info on health risks in pregnancy/births vs. 1st  CTyankee   Nov-07-09 04:42 PM   #40 
        - If I ever get pregnant, abortion will be a medical necessity.  Hello_Kitty   Nov-07-09 04:45 PM   #43 
        - That's revolting.  imdjh   Nov-07-09 04:55 PM   #50 
        - Why the fuck would I edit it? You're the fetus-worshipper, not me.  Hello_Kitty   Nov-07-09 05:00 PM   #54 
        - biologically, that is EXACTLY what the fetus is--it requires a host to survive, and can cause  niyad   Nov-08-09 10:36 AM   #100 
        - You and me both  TorchTheWitch   Nov-08-09 09:30 AM   #95 
        - Woah, you are way out of line with that post.  noamnety   Nov-08-09 11:59 AM   #105 
        - We rank 41 in maternal death rates.  Warren Stupidity   Nov-07-09 04:47 PM   #44 
        - I've never understood why people see clear political alignment in the abortion issue  imdjh   Nov-07-09 05:13 PM   #57 
           - If you had a chance of getting pregnant, you might.  PeaceNikki   Nov-07-09 05:15 PM   #59 
           - Sorry. I thought you were asking other people to help pay for elective abortions. My mistake.  imdjh   Nov-07-09 07:03 PM   #72 
              - Other people already are helping women pay for elective abortions  Hello_Kitty   Nov-07-09 07:05 PM   #73 
              - I'm really not interested in talking to you anymore.  imdjh   Nov-07-09 07:06 PM   #75 
              - But you're ok with you and the rest of "society" paying for prenatal care and delivery  PeaceNikki   Nov-07-09 07:11 PM   #77 
                 - ... or being tag teamed.  imdjh   Nov-07-09 07:13 PM   #78 
                    - ??  PeaceNikki   Nov-07-09 07:14 PM   #79 
                    - We just don't share his love of the fetus. eom  Hello_Kitty   Nov-07-09 09:40 PM   #84 
                    - You are the victim here, aren't you?  Warren Stupidity   Nov-08-09 09:20 AM   #93 
           - Oh I don't know, perhaps because it is one of the two favorite right wing wedge issues?  Warren Stupidity   Nov-08-09 09:23 AM   #94 
              - You're asking me to explain the reasoning of caring for life rather than ending it?  imdjh   Nov-08-09 10:26 AM   #98 
                 - Ah so then your original argument was a facade.  Warren Stupidity   Nov-08-09 11:18 AM   #103 
                    - There's no change or dishonesty to it.  imdjh   Nov-08-09 11:45 AM   #104 
        - Your neanderthal approach to women's healthcare has been noted.  Lars39   Nov-07-09 09:42 PM   #85 
     - If I get pregnant I will NEED an abortion.  Hello_Kitty   Nov-07-09 04:48 PM   #46 
  - We are America, and we do things better than those Canadians and Brits  The Straight Story   Nov-07-09 04:04 PM   #9 
  - Yes.  enlightenment   Nov-07-09 04:05 PM   #10 
  - Thank You. It should be covered then. Case Closed.  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-07-09 04:08 PM   #14 
  - Why should whether another country covers abortion make the decision here?  csziggy   Nov-07-09 04:28 PM   #28 
  - The British rule raises an interesting thought  Hello_Kitty   Nov-07-09 04:14 PM   #16 
     - An abortion panel, like we had 40 years ago  sandnsea   Nov-07-09 04:22 PM   #24 
     - Not sure, but I think that's if you want to have an abortion at no cost.  dustbunnie   Nov-07-09 04:32 PM   #30 
        - As it was for rich women in the 60s  sandnsea   Nov-07-09 04:54 PM   #49 
           - When I was a kid, the guy was supposed to pay for the abortion.  imdjh   Nov-07-09 05:10 PM   #56 
              - Only if he was a "gentleman" and didn't tell everyone you were a slut to get out of it...  Hekate   Nov-07-09 07:27 PM   #83 
     - That would be my take on it - but hey, I'm just a woman  enlightenment   Nov-07-09 10:10 PM   #86 
  - If I remember correctly...  BigBluenoser   Nov-07-09 04:14 PM   #15 
  - Hospitals and clinics are free. But paying for them out of pocket buys privacy.  dustbunnie   Nov-07-09 04:23 PM   #26 
  - The real answer is that they'll just find something else. I would throw abortion under the bus...  imdjh   Nov-07-09 04:30 PM   #29 
  - This is the latest info from Canada and for the most part they are covered.  buzzard   Nov-07-09 04:42 PM   #39 
  - It varies  sandnsea   Nov-07-09 04:57 PM   #51 
  - Wow...the OP is a MALE....  Hepburn   Nov-07-09 04:59 PM   #52 
  - uh sorry but when you demand that he pays for it then he gets an opinion  dsc   Nov-07-09 05:13 PM   #58 
     - They had a "say" when they had sex and risked pregnancy.  PeaceNikki   Nov-07-09 05:17 PM   #60 
     - To some extent yes, and it should be noted we do already get involved in those decisions  dsc   Nov-07-09 05:21 PM   #62 
     - Sounds like you're saying that if he'd kept his knees together, he wouldn't be in trouble. LOL!  imdjh   Nov-07-09 07:05 PM   #74 
     - Well, does that UNlogic go for my tax dollars and the stinking wars?  Hepburn   Nov-07-09 06:12 PM   #64 
        - Yes I have never, not a single solitary time, seen any poster at this site told they  dsc   Nov-07-09 06:43 PM   #69 
  - Under the British Columbian MSP, abortions are free  Oregone   Nov-07-09 05:22 PM   #63 
  - because if you take it out; if you keep ceding ground issue by issue,  Blue_Tires   Nov-07-09 07:22 PM   #81 
  - I can answer for the Canadian Law.  CraftyGal   Nov-07-09 10:35 PM   #87 
  - At the core, the objections are FINANCIAL  SoCalDem   Nov-07-09 10:48 PM   #88 
  - It's politics, pure and simple  tinrobot   Nov-07-09 10:54 PM   #89 
  - "Medically necessary" -- the HEALTH of the woman is NOT protected with this.  Sparkly   Nov-07-09 11:19 PM   #91 
  - Aid to women overseas for abortions  ipaint   Nov-07-09 11:21 PM   #92 
  - I think men who don't carry their weight in the home in regards to children shouldn't be covered.  Darth_Kitten   Nov-08-09 09:35 AM   #96 
  - I being most sincere when I say , why don't you go volunteer at planned parenthood as a handholder  EndersDame   Nov-08-09 10:41 AM   #101 
  - It's covered in Switzerland. And guess what? A doctor is better positioned to decide  Heidi   Nov-08-09 10:43 AM   #102 
 

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