Kurt_and_Hunter
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Sat Nov-07-09 03:55 PM
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| 1. Yes, down with recreational and cosmetic abortions. |
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Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 03:56 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
Geez... "aren't medically necessary" is a hell of a phrase to toss around.
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| -Quick Question: Is abortion covered under the Canadian plan or British NHS? |
Shagbark Hickory |
Nov-07-09 03:54 PM |
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Yes, down with recreational and cosmetic abortions. |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Nov-07-09 03:55 PM |
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Translation |
Warpy |
Nov-07-09 04:02 PM |
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A pregnancy is a disease or malfunction? |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 04:19 PM |
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It's a dangerous enterprise that shouldn't be accomplished unaided |
Warpy |
Nov-07-09 05:20 PM |
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I'll be happy when people no longer feel that they are entitled |
me b zola |
Nov-07-09 06:20 PM |
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A non sequitur. |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 07:00 PM |
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It's a condition |
JerseygirlCT |
Nov-07-09 07:23 PM |
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If I eat in my car and accidently spill food and drinks and stain my upholstery, should new ... |
Shagbark Hickory |
Nov-07-09 04:03 PM |
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Are you kidding? |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-07-09 04:06 PM |
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There are plenty of legal medical procedures which aren't covered by insurance. |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 04:16 PM |
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So... are you saying abortion is like a cosmetic nose job or a broken nose nose job? |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-07-09 04:19 PM |
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There are elective abortions and medically necessary abortions. |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 04:22 PM |
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And the pregnancy could also be deemed "elective". |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-07-09 04:36 PM |
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One you're pregnant, it's elected. |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 04:37 PM |
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Not as long as we have "choice" in this country. But I see you're not a fan of that. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-07-09 04:37 PM |
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I haven't said a word about choice. |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 04:44 PM |
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They are medically necessary. Or don't you consider a woman not wanting to carry the child |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-07-09 04:48 PM |
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Should insurance companies cover "elective" labor? |
noamnety |
Nov-07-09 11:12 PM |
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There is a joke about upholstery stains here but I am so stunned |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-07-09 04:38 PM |
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An unwanted pregnancy is just like an upholstery stain. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-07-09 04:53 PM |
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If you eat junk food all the time, should a heart bypass operation be |
Cass |
Nov-07-09 04:34 PM |
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Thinking of pregnancy as a disease is pretty fucked up. |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 04:36 PM |
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Thinking that you know better than a woman and her doctor is fucked up. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-07-09 04:39 PM |
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Nope, not saying that at all. Just pointing out that there are other conditions caused by one's |
Cass |
Nov-07-09 04:45 PM |
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That might be something to talk about if my position was "You got fucked now live with it." but ... |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 04:51 PM |
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My original comment was directed to another poster who was making the point that |
Cass |
Nov-07-09 06:39 PM |
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actually my medical insurance refused to pay for an auto accident I was in recently |
dsc |
Nov-07-09 05:00 PM |
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At this rate, I woudn't be surprised if they wouldn't. |
Cass |
Nov-07-09 06:49 PM |
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the other driver's insurance did cover since, thank God, it was nothing |
dsc |
Nov-07-09 07:11 PM |
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Glad to hear it wasn't anything more serious, dsc, and that your treatment was |
Cass |
Nov-07-09 07:21 PM |
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Jeeeeeeeeeez.... |
Hepburn |
Nov-07-09 05:01 PM |
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Two times. |
Jazzgirl |
Nov-07-09 06:35 PM |
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And spilling food on your upholstery has what to do with |
Jazzgirl |
Nov-07-09 06:33 PM |
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let's try not to be an idiot here--are you so freaking clueless that you really don't understand the |
niyad |
Nov-08-09 10:31 AM |
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What would be another way of saying it? |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 04:14 PM |
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The proper term for an abortion that is not medically necessary is "elective abortion" |
slackmaster |
Nov-07-09 04:33 PM |
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Stupak wants the Hyde Amendment |
sandnsea |
Nov-07-09 03:56 PM |
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No, he wants to go further than just the Hyde amendment. |
madfloridian |
Nov-07-09 03:57 PM |
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If I get pregnant and don't want to have the baby, abortion is a medical necessity. |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-07-09 03:57 PM |
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OK Bad choice of words but please either answer the question or have the debate somewhere else. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Nov-07-09 04:00 PM |
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So you want to control women's choices in medical care? |
madfloridian |
Nov-07-09 04:01 PM |
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NO! I advocate getting abortions. I think many more people should get them, believe me. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Nov-07-09 04:05 PM |
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As long as abortion remains a legal, constitutionally protected medical procedure, |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-07-09 04:07 PM |
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*facepalm* (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Nov-07-09 04:16 PM |
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Pay out of pocket? Well, ain't that some nerve....... |
Darth_Kitten |
Nov-08-09 09:50 AM |
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That's called an elective abortion. Medically necessary would be if it were medically necessary. |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 04:17 PM |
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Not when every single pregnancy holds the risk of death or injury. |
Lars39 |
Nov-07-09 04:21 PM |
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dated rhetoric |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 04:26 PM |
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Go to the Guttmacher Institute for the latest info on health risks in pregnancy/births vs. 1st |
CTyankee |
Nov-07-09 04:42 PM |
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If I ever get pregnant, abortion will be a medical necessity. |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-07-09 04:45 PM |
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That's revolting. |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 04:55 PM |
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Why the fuck would I edit it? You're the fetus-worshipper, not me. |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-07-09 05:00 PM |
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biologically, that is EXACTLY what the fetus is--it requires a host to survive, and can cause |
niyad |
Nov-08-09 10:36 AM |
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You and me both |
TorchTheWitch |
Nov-08-09 09:30 AM |
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Woah, you are way out of line with that post. |
noamnety |
Nov-08-09 11:59 AM |
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We rank 41 in maternal death rates. |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-07-09 04:47 PM |
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I've never understood why people see clear political alignment in the abortion issue |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 05:13 PM |
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If you had a chance of getting pregnant, you might. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-07-09 05:15 PM |
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Sorry. I thought you were asking other people to help pay for elective abortions. My mistake. |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 07:03 PM |
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Other people already are helping women pay for elective abortions |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-07-09 07:05 PM |
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I'm really not interested in talking to you anymore. |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 07:06 PM |
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But you're ok with you and the rest of "society" paying for prenatal care and delivery |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-07-09 07:11 PM |
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... or being tag teamed. |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 07:13 PM |
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?? |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-07-09 07:14 PM |
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We just don't share his love of the fetus. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-07-09 09:40 PM |
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You are the victim here, aren't you? |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-08-09 09:20 AM |
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Oh I don't know, perhaps because it is one of the two favorite right wing wedge issues? |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-08-09 09:23 AM |
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You're asking me to explain the reasoning of caring for life rather than ending it? |
imdjh |
Nov-08-09 10:26 AM |
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Ah so then your original argument was a facade. |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-08-09 11:18 AM |
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There's no change or dishonesty to it. |
imdjh |
Nov-08-09 11:45 AM |
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Your neanderthal approach to women's healthcare has been noted. |
Lars39 |
Nov-07-09 09:42 PM |
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If I get pregnant I will NEED an abortion. |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-07-09 04:48 PM |
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We are America, and we do things better than those Canadians and Brits |
The Straight Story |
Nov-07-09 04:04 PM |
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Yes. |
enlightenment |
Nov-07-09 04:05 PM |
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Thank You. It should be covered then. Case Closed. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Nov-07-09 04:08 PM |
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Why should whether another country covers abortion make the decision here? |
csziggy |
Nov-07-09 04:28 PM |
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The British rule raises an interesting thought |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-07-09 04:14 PM |
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An abortion panel, like we had 40 years ago |
sandnsea |
Nov-07-09 04:22 PM |
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Not sure, but I think that's if you want to have an abortion at no cost. |
dustbunnie |
Nov-07-09 04:32 PM |
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As it was for rich women in the 60s |
sandnsea |
Nov-07-09 04:54 PM |
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When I was a kid, the guy was supposed to pay for the abortion. |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 05:10 PM |
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Only if he was a "gentleman" and didn't tell everyone you were a slut to get out of it... |
Hekate |
Nov-07-09 07:27 PM |
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That would be my take on it - but hey, I'm just a woman |
enlightenment |
Nov-07-09 10:10 PM |
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If I remember correctly... |
BigBluenoser |
Nov-07-09 04:14 PM |
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Hospitals and clinics are free. But paying for them out of pocket buys privacy. |
dustbunnie |
Nov-07-09 04:23 PM |
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The real answer is that they'll just find something else. I would throw abortion under the bus... |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 04:30 PM |
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This is the latest info from Canada and for the most part they are covered. |
buzzard |
Nov-07-09 04:42 PM |
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It varies |
sandnsea |
Nov-07-09 04:57 PM |
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Wow...the OP is a MALE.... |
Hepburn |
Nov-07-09 04:59 PM |
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uh sorry but when you demand that he pays for it then he gets an opinion |
dsc |
Nov-07-09 05:13 PM |
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They had a "say" when they had sex and risked pregnancy. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-07-09 05:17 PM |
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To some extent yes, and it should be noted we do already get involved in those decisions |
dsc |
Nov-07-09 05:21 PM |
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Sounds like you're saying that if he'd kept his knees together, he wouldn't be in trouble. LOL! |
imdjh |
Nov-07-09 07:05 PM |
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Well, does that UNlogic go for my tax dollars and the stinking wars? |
Hepburn |
Nov-07-09 06:12 PM |
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Yes I have never, not a single solitary time, seen any poster at this site told they |
dsc |
Nov-07-09 06:43 PM |
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Under the British Columbian MSP, abortions are free |
Oregone |
Nov-07-09 05:22 PM |
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because if you take it out; if you keep ceding ground issue by issue, |
Blue_Tires |
Nov-07-09 07:22 PM |
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I can answer for the Canadian Law. |
CraftyGal |
Nov-07-09 10:35 PM |
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At the core, the objections are FINANCIAL |
SoCalDem |
Nov-07-09 10:48 PM |
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It's politics, pure and simple |
tinrobot |
Nov-07-09 10:54 PM |
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"Medically necessary" -- the HEALTH of the woman is NOT protected with this. |
Sparkly |
Nov-07-09 11:19 PM |
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Aid to women overseas for abortions |
ipaint |
Nov-07-09 11:21 PM |
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I think men who don't carry their weight in the home in regards to children shouldn't be covered. |
Darth_Kitten |
Nov-08-09 09:35 AM |
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I being most sincere when I say , why don't you go volunteer at planned parenthood as a handholder |
EndersDame |
Nov-08-09 10:41 AM |
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It's covered in Switzerland. And guess what? A doctor is better positioned to decide |
Heidi |
Nov-08-09 10:43 AM |
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