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Here (England), we already have something similar: You must be a member of a shooting club for at least six months before you can be licensed to own firearms. Since the range officer (the very experianced, well-trained guy who enforces safety requirements on teh range) is obliged to comment on your application, it usually (not always but usually) serves to week out the whack-jobs.
Look, my position is this: I'm a sport-shooter. I took up shooting because I wanted to win medals (I'm not that good sadly) and discovered a life-long (although expensive) hobby. I'm also a history buff and, were my finances more secure, would probably collect antique weapons. Sport-shooters tend not to be overly bothered about how powerful a weapon is. As long as it's powerful enough to accuratly punch a target at X yards, that's enough for us. We're not much bothered about fire rate either because if you rush your shot, you'll probably miss. We're more interested in things like point spread (getting your shots as close together as possible), accuracy and reliability. I've also been known to go hunting on occasion (carrying a rifle and ammo around miles of Scottish moorland, there's some excercise). I won't take a shot unless I can be sure of getting a one-shot kill, I either eat the meat or pass it to someone who will eat it (and a pair of antlers to my father which he uses as a hatrack).
If you can work out a system that'll let me keep target shooting, I'll support that system. I can't see a need for a hunter to own an automatic weapon as it removes the element of skill (a weapon firing 300 rounds a minute doesn't give the elk many options, plus all you're left with after that is hamburger). A target shooter uses semi-auto pistols simply because the gun industry has poured all their research into them for years so they tend to be the most accurate. If you want to run a criminal check, fine. Want me to get some of my buddies or my range officer to vouch for me, no problem. I'll resist if you want a psych evaluation because I hate therapy but that's just me. I don't even mind having to keep my weapon at the club (and have you seen gun club lockers? You'd need a rocket strike to get into them). So long as some kind of permit system could be worked out for me to attend Bisley each year, that's fine.
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| -Stopping Nuts With Guns - Myths and Reality |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 08:05 PM |
#0 |
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#4: Blame the victims |
fishnfla |
Apr-18-07 08:20 PM |
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I cover that myth and why it's a bad idea for everyone to "pack heat" |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 08:23 PM |
#2 |
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That's the most sensible thing I have read yet on this topic |
alarimer |
Apr-18-07 08:31 PM |
#3 |
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"Loners" |
Xap |
Apr-18-07 08:52 PM |
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No...I'm suggesting a common sense approach... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 09:09 PM |
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Timothy McVeigh, for one, would have easily passed your test. n/t |
Xap |
Apr-18-07 09:33 PM |
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No he wouldn't have... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 09:38 PM |
#17 |
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There are loners and there are loners |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-18-07 10:03 PM |
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Yeah, you're right...but it would be good to spend a few minutes |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 10:13 PM |
#28 |
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About Amadou Diallo ... |
Jim__ |
Apr-18-07 08:54 PM |
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My apologies about the alley...actually kind of makes Gladwell's point... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 09:29 PM |
#14 |
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Enjoy your crusade. You ain't getting MY guns, bubba. |
karlrschneider |
Apr-18-07 08:57 PM |
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Karl: |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 09:14 PM |
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Well, I never said I was against realistic controls (good background checks.) |
karlrschneider |
Apr-18-07 09:50 PM |
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Tired tired cliches.... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 09:58 PM |
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OMG, I hardly know where to start, Doug! |
karlrschneider |
Apr-18-07 10:38 PM |
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30% of the country smokes..it used to be 50%... 70% drinks... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 11:05 PM |
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You're funny. |
karlrschneider |
Apr-18-07 11:09 PM |
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You don't understand a hypothetical??? |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 11:13 PM |
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ddclue, don't bother arguing with someone who uses terms like "gun grabbers." |
Redstone |
Apr-18-07 11:00 PM |
#54 |
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karl isn't a nut job..."gun grabbers" to the contrary... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 11:06 PM |
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Well, shit. Hey Doug, I apologize. This subject makes us all a little nuts I guess. |
karlrschneider |
Apr-18-07 11:20 PM |
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Bullshit and "feelgood"... |
TnDem |
Apr-18-07 11:32 PM |
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Dude, I live in the south and I understand and have shot guns... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 11:38 PM |
#91 |
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You have lost your mind?.... |
TnDem |
Apr-18-07 11:59 PM |
#100 |
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NO - HAVE YOU???? |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 12:13 AM |
#106 |
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So I guess.... |
TnDem |
Apr-19-07 12:18 AM |
#110 |
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Well I GUESS THE HELL NOT...they don't know what they are talking about. |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 12:33 AM |
#116 |
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OK then.... |
TnDem |
Apr-19-07 01:07 AM |
#145 |
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Well except for Senator BILL NELSON of FLORIDA.. |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 01:11 AM |
#148 |
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Ignore the Berkeley comments -- it's a private obsession with TnDem |
jgraz |
Apr-19-07 01:13 AM |
#149 |
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Yeah and I WAS a Tennessee Democrat myself... |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 01:25 AM |
#154 |
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Damn, I love Tennessee |
jgraz |
Apr-19-07 01:29 AM |
#157 |
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and don't forget: Gore and Kerry didn't actually lose |
jgraz |
Apr-19-07 12:40 AM |
#120 |
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Thanks for your support but I don't agree... |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 12:42 AM |
#123 |
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Different debate for another time |
jgraz |
Apr-19-07 12:56 AM |
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I've been through it all...where was the fraud in 2006? |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 01:00 AM |
#140 |
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Like I said, we should talk some other time |
jgraz |
Apr-19-07 01:05 AM |
#144 |
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Wake up! |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-19-07 12:57 AM |
#135 |
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Damn..that'll do it... I'll have a nightmare tonight now.. |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 12:59 AM |
#138 |
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The nightmare is reality... |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-19-07 01:01 AM |
#141 |
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Exactly!! |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-19-07 12:58 AM |
#137 |
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(((Swamp))) |
Gelliebeans |
Apr-19-07 05:45 AM |
#187 |
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Gelliebeans!! |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-19-07 05:46 AM |
#188 |
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Dude, I live in the south and I understand and have shot guns... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 11:38 PM |
#92 |
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Sorry for the double posts... what's up with DU tonight..why so slow...n/t |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 11:40 PM |
#93 |
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ahem... |
orleans |
Apr-19-07 02:55 AM |
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That's important too but I still want to talk to his friends, family, and coworkers |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 03:01 AM |
#177 |
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there is no guarantee that the gun store owner's judgment would |
orleans |
Apr-19-07 03:15 AM |
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There IS no magic bullet - not even MY idea is a magic bullet. |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 03:22 AM |
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Hospitilized |
Thothmes |
Apr-19-07 08:46 AM |
#192 |
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ok...then maybe anyone being treated with mental problems |
orleans |
Apr-19-07 02:18 PM |
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Uhhhh..... |
Dr_eldritch |
Apr-19-07 02:53 AM |
#174 |
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Hey it's been done in many a country over the decades... |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 03:05 AM |
#178 |
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God, Karl. You are so....frightened. And paranoid. |
Beausoir |
Apr-18-07 09:32 PM |
#15 |
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You sound like a right wingnut. Nothing happened to me. Why? |
karlrschneider |
Apr-18-07 09:39 PM |
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Except that you really WOULDN'T be effective - you just think you would. |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 09:41 PM |
#20 |
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That's just silly. I'm a former cop and a VERY good shot. |
karlrschneider |
Apr-18-07 09:53 PM |
#24 |
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It doesn't matter because that "perp" has the drop on you.. |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 10:11 PM |
#27 |
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I'll try to remember to reply tomorrow, I have an early flight and need some sleep. |
karlrschneider |
Apr-18-07 10:25 PM |
#29 |
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Oh dear God... I hope this is a private flight and not on the airlines... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 10:30 PM |
#30 |
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I'm DRIVING the airplane. |
karlrschneider |
Apr-18-07 10:39 PM |
#36 |
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And still I don't think a gun in the cockpit is a good idea...stick to flying... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 11:07 PM |
#59 |
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Pack a flashlight, a handheld aviation radio and a GPS...you're more likely to need them n/t. |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 10:32 PM |
#32 |
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Very true, but, |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-19-07 12:38 AM |
#119 |
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Nope..I was an Eagle Scout... better to not have the gun because |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 12:58 AM |
#136 |
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You, too? Congrats! |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-19-07 01:39 AM |
#162 |
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It's not the pure gun accidents a la Cheney I'm talking about... |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 01:50 AM |
#166 |
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Mistakes happen. |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-19-07 02:28 AM |
#170 |
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I disagree that friend vs foe ID is easy or accurate. |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 02:51 AM |
#173 |
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It really is not that hard for civilians. |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-19-07 03:38 AM |
#185 |
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Ouch. A voice of reason punctuates Karl-Wyatt-Earp's balloon of invincibility. |
Beausoir |
Apr-18-07 11:04 PM |
#56 |
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I think that's a bit extreme to characterize him that way... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 11:10 PM |
#61 |
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You don't trust him with a gun but you trust him with a plane? |
Beausoir |
Apr-18-07 11:13 PM |
#64 |
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OK...to explain... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 11:16 PM |
#67 |
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OK. I see your point. But I still don't feel safe with gun-crazy guys flying around in planes. |
Beausoir |
Apr-18-07 11:20 PM |
#74 |
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Right idea, but not accurate in the details. |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-19-07 12:52 AM |
#128 |
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No Joe I AM a pilot and an aerospace engineer to boot... |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 01:08 AM |
#146 |
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Right on the money. |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-19-07 01:50 AM |
#165 |
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No you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 02:04 AM |
#168 |
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Sounds like we are mostly in agreement and now just |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-19-07 02:34 AM |
#171 |
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Doug is slowly beginning to understand the dynamics. |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-19-07 12:33 AM |
# |
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Nicely put. What amazes me is that so many here would rather the potential victims |
karlrschneider |
Apr-19-07 12:40 AM |
#121 |
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Come on karl..that's just so lame and insultingly not true... |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 01:20 AM |
# |
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Come on karl..that's just so lame and insultingly not true... |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 01:20 AM |
#151 |
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Come on karl..that's just so lame and insultingly not true... |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 01:20 AM |
#152 |
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Guns were banned on Campus... How did Cho get one onto campus? |
Dr_eldritch |
Apr-19-07 02:45 AM |
#172 |
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Well because how was that actually enforced other than the honor system? |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 03:25 AM |
#182 |
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NO I DO understand the dynamics entirely. It is YOU who fail to understand |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 12:40 AM |
#122 |
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I understand better than most. |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-19-07 01:29 AM |
#156 |
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No the human brain is usually a fuckup when it comes to split second decision making. |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 01:45 AM |
#164 |
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OK, you got me. |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-19-07 02:01 AM |
#167 |
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I don't have the experience of a "gun" decision but: |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 02:15 AM |
#169 |
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Sounds like you are doing OK to me. |
ManiacJoe |
Apr-19-07 02:59 AM |
#176 |
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Yeah but most people DON'T get the chance to learn from their mistakes |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 03:16 AM |
#180 |
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"you will never get the chance to shoot your gun" |
Nabeshin |
Apr-19-07 04:55 AM |
#186 |
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Wait -- that's not how it would go at all! |
jgraz |
Apr-19-07 12:51 AM |
#127 |
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Bwa hah hah... |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 12:56 AM |
#134 |
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BTW, fucking awesome OP |
jgraz |
Apr-19-07 01:00 AM |
#139 |
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Thanks..I've been at it a while... |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 01:02 AM |
#143 |
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And, ddclue, don't waste your time trying to talk to someone who resorts to the words |
Redstone |
Apr-18-07 11:03 PM |
#55 |
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BTW, Redstone? May I remind you... |
Beausoir |
Apr-18-07 11:17 PM |
#68 |
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I'm sorry. The OP did such a great job that I could NOT just stand by and watch. |
Redstone |
Apr-18-07 11:24 PM |
#79 |
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Yep. That's why I'm here too. I am not very reasonable most of the time, but he made it clear |
Beausoir |
Apr-18-07 11:29 PM |
#85 |
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Oh.. and P.S. this "craven coward" has stopped a robbery UNARMED |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 09:48 PM |
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Uh...your reply proves my point. You are so terribly frightened. You are frightened by life. |
Beausoir |
Apr-18-07 10:56 PM |
#47 |
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Ignored |
karlrschneider |
Apr-18-07 10:58 PM |
#52 |
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Your ignore list must be HUGE by now. Here's an idea.... |
Beausoir |
Apr-18-07 11:26 PM |
#82 |
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STOP!! |
Madspirit |
Apr-18-07 11:59 PM |
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Madspirit, listen to me, please. |
Redstone |
Apr-19-07 12:11 AM |
#105 |
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I don't own a gun Redstone, my friend. |
Madspirit |
Apr-19-07 12:33 AM |
#114 |
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Yes. Yes to all you said. |
Redstone |
Apr-19-07 12:43 AM |
#124 |
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Fear is not a good way to live your life.. |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 12:52 AM |
#129 |
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...yeah...but... |
Madspirit |
Apr-19-07 01:09 AM |
#147 |
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I DO live very much in the real world and I'm NOT after your gun..that's your delusion. |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 01:23 AM |
#153 |
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Thanks. There must have been a big DU sale on rose-colored glasses I missed out on. |
karlrschneider |
Apr-19-07 12:35 AM |
#118 |
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You're welcome! |
Madspirit |
Apr-19-07 05:11 PM |
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We already have a well-armed citzenry which is too cowardly-- |
eridani |
Apr-20-07 03:15 AM |
#205 |
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Yeah Karl, we're the craven cowards |
jgraz |
Apr-19-07 01:02 AM |
#142 |
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Living in farming areas, |
mycritters2 |
Apr-18-07 10:56 PM |
#49 |
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All of this is meaningless |
EstimatedProphet |
Apr-18-07 09:05 PM |
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He has experience being HUMAN doesn't he? |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 09:22 PM |
#12 |
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No, I disagree |
EstimatedProphet |
Apr-19-07 07:09 AM |
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Observation |
Thothmes |
Apr-19-07 08:53 AM |
#193 |
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Are you sure on that? |
EstimatedProphet |
Apr-19-07 11:06 AM |
#198 |
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Delete, server blunder |
EstimatedProphet |
Apr-18-07 09:05 PM |
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Guns weren't the problem here. That you can use term "nuts" |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-18-07 09:10 PM |
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No NUTS PLUS GUNS was the problem. |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 09:26 PM |
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Agreed. Thank you! eom. |
Artiechoke |
Apr-18-07 10:54 PM |
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Apr-18-07 09:39 PM |
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Ahh the ad-hominem attack when you have nothing real to contribute... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 09:42 PM |
#21 |
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About those myths... |
beevul |
Apr-18-07 10:31 PM |
#31 |
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UH..NOT SO MUCH... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 10:56 PM |
#48 |
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UH..NOT SO MUCH... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 10:56 PM |
#50 |
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So... |
beevul |
Apr-18-07 11:45 PM |
#98 |
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I DID debate in good faith..you didn't... |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 12:15 AM |
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Saying you did, and I didn't doesnt make it so. N/T |
beevul |
Apr-19-07 12:20 AM |
#111 |
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I DID justify everyone of my points using elementary logic. |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 12:26 AM |
#113 |
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You did NOTHING of the sort. |
beevul |
Apr-19-07 12:33 AM |
#115 |
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I did SO and please DO stop wasting our time... |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 12:53 AM |
#130 |
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"Mikael Gross and Tracy Bridges" |
jgraz |
Apr-19-07 01:27 AM |
#155 |
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Yeah, Ignore Joel Myrick. |
beevul |
Apr-19-07 03:31 AM |
#184 |
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In other words: Please let me hang onto the one fantasy that lets me keep my guns |
jgraz |
Apr-19-07 10:28 AM |
#197 |
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Fuck if I AM |
symbolman |
Apr-18-07 10:35 PM |
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Apr-18-07 10:42 PM |
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Well call me a shitbag then |
proud2Blib |
Apr-18-07 10:49 PM |
#41 |
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Ask and you shall receive. |
karlrschneider |
Apr-18-07 10:52 PM |
#44 |
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And what, specifically, is wrong with her being a female from Kansas? Care to elaborate? |
Redstone |
Apr-18-07 11:12 PM |
#63 |
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Nothing "wrong" with either. Not at all. You aren't responsible for the idiotic policies |
karlrschneider |
Apr-18-07 11:23 PM |
#78 |
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And what difference does that make? Good God, to think you actually fly airplanes with |
Redstone |
Apr-18-07 11:26 PM |
#83 |
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Check your DUmail before you get into serious trouble. |
karlrschneider |
Apr-18-07 11:28 PM |
#84 |
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I'm no stranger to trouble. But see my last reply first. |
Redstone |
Apr-18-07 11:43 PM |
#97 |
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Actually I live in a big city |
proud2Blib |
Apr-19-07 09:15 AM |
#195 |
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I was in Quang Tri City and An Loc in April and May of 1972. Does that qualify me |
Redstone |
Apr-18-07 11:10 PM |
#62 |
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And you're a COMMERCIAL AIRLINE PILOT? Christ, I wish the FAA could see that post; you are clearly |
Redstone |
Apr-18-07 11:17 PM |
#69 |
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Be my guest. I fly private jets for corporations. Mostly GOP-owned ones. |
karlrschneider |
Apr-18-07 11:25 PM |
#81 |
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Well, that's fine. As long as you're not flying unsuspecting civilians around, be my guest. |
Redstone |
Apr-18-07 11:31 PM |
#86 |
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Bully for you. I take their money, they get a great ride. |
karlrschneider |
Apr-18-07 11:34 PM |
#88 |
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Translation = go postal, go nuts..lose it..etc. |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 11:41 PM |
#94 |
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Uh, it means the same as "lose your grip." You got a lot of anger bottled up, right there. |
Redstone |
Apr-18-07 11:42 PM |
#95 |
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Dude...I would never give out that kind of personal info... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 11:35 PM |
#90 |
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Not necessary, since he doesn't fly the general public in his planes. |
Redstone |
Apr-18-07 11:49 PM |
#99 |
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Oh grow up karl... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 11:20 PM |
# |
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Oh grow up karl... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 11:20 PM |
# |
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I'll admit, I do get angry sometimes. But I don't think I've ever seen anyone at DU as angry as you. |
Redstone |
Apr-18-07 11:35 PM |
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Good luck with that when they bring an attack helicopter and a tank... |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 11:18 PM |
#70 |
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I know plenty of Nam guys who know better than that |
symbolman |
Apr-19-07 01:32 AM |
#158 |
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So yippee your a veteran so what.??? |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 01:43 AM |
#163 |
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You DO do you? |
symbolman |
Apr-19-07 05:47 AM |
#189 |
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To be fair we have a lot of both of those in Iraq |
spoony |
Apr-19-07 03:56 PM |
#202 |
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oh wow. Lots of luck to you. |
ComerPerro |
Apr-18-07 10:38 PM |
#34 |
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Regulating guns does not equate to a violation of the 2nd Amendment. |
merh |
Apr-18-07 10:42 PM |
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Great. I nominated it for the "stupidest fucking post ever" gallery. |
karlrschneider |
Apr-18-07 10:45 PM |
#39 |
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I don't have that feature |
merh |
Apr-18-07 10:48 PM |
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I just love the power of it. My gun gives me nonstop orgasms. I caress it with loving tenderness. |
karlrschneider |
Apr-18-07 10:50 PM |
#42 |
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Hey, you are the one that took it to a personal level |
merh |
Apr-18-07 11:00 PM |
#53 |
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I'll be forwarding that post to the FAA as well. You are a danger to the public. |
Redstone |
Apr-18-07 11:20 PM |
#73 |
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What the hell are you doing? |
symbolman |
Apr-19-07 06:04 AM |
#190 |
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. . . |
proud2Blib |
Apr-18-07 10:51 PM |
#43 |
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self delete |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 11:21 PM |
#75 |
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Well, you've successfully bundled together a bunch of oft-repeated straw-men in one post. |
piedmont |
Apr-18-07 10:56 PM |
#46 |
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No I didn't say that.. |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 11:22 PM |
#76 |
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Excellent NRA bundle, right there. |
Redstone |
Apr-19-07 12:13 AM |
#107 |
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Hitler chewed gum. Do you chew gum? |
piedmont |
Apr-19-07 12:51 AM |
#126 |
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Actually, I don't. Next question? |
Redstone |
Apr-19-07 12:53 AM |
#132 |
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Ha. Alright then. Good night. |
piedmont |
Apr-19-07 01:13 AM |
#150 |
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I'm not easily impressed, but I'm fucking impressed right now. Yes, indeed. |
Redstone |
Apr-18-07 10:57 PM |
#51 |
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masterfully discredited? You bucking for Tony Snow's job? |
karlrschneider |
Apr-18-07 11:05 PM |
#57 |
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Haven't answered ONE of my replies except with this bullshit, have you? |
Redstone |
Apr-18-07 11:22 PM |
#77 |
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Give me an example where a gun killed someone. nt |
doc03 |
Apr-18-07 11:13 PM |
#66 |
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Only if you will give me one example where someone was killed from |
ddeclue |
Apr-18-07 11:25 PM |
#80 |
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Well if I hit you with a rock |
doc03 |
Apr-19-07 12:02 AM |
#102 |
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Well there isn't an epidemic of "rock" murders now IS THERE? |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 12:17 AM |
#109 |
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A friend of mine from work killed himself with a gun. |
doc03 |
Apr-18-07 11:42 PM |
#96 |
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I happen to know of FOUR separate gun deaths of people I knew from my days in Atlanta in 80's/90's |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 12:06 AM |
#104 |
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A gun didn't kill any of those people, people did. |
doc03 |
Apr-19-07 05:39 PM |
#204 |
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Great post! I'm printing this out and keeping it. |
AZBlue |
Apr-18-07 11:20 PM |
#71 |
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Wackiness Ensues |
Madspirit |
Apr-19-07 12:04 AM |
#103 |
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What a bunch of nonsense |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 12:22 AM |
#112 |
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Arrogant, condescending pedant |
Madspirit |
Apr-19-07 12:43 AM |
#125 |
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Quite a lot thank you and you can stop talking down to me while you're at it. |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 01:32 AM |
#159 |
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It's called asymetrical warfare, and the Iraqis are pantsing us with it. |
piedmont |
Apr-19-07 12:53 AM |
#131 |
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Only because George Bush is an idiot...n/t |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 01:35 AM |
#160 |
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This kid purchased a gun legally. Mental health records are not checked, and that |
mzmolly |
Apr-19-07 12:34 AM |
#117 |
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And even THAT is not a sufficient test. |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 01:38 AM |
#161 |
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That's a good point. |
mzmolly |
Apr-19-07 03:44 PM |
#201 |
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MUST SLEEP NOW.. GOOD NIGHT ALL... AN INTERESTING DEBATE... |
ddeclue |
Apr-19-07 03:28 AM |
#183 |
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Myth #4 is so stupid. You debunked it well. nt |
raccoon |
Apr-19-07 09:13 AM |
#194 |
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Nice idea |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-19-07 10:22 AM |
#196 |
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That was brilliantly put. Thank you. |
IronLionZion |
Apr-19-07 12:14 PM |
#199 |