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premium that (usually) comes out of a retiree's Social Security check goes directly to the private insurer's plan which the retiree has selected.
When I was being solicited to take one of these plans, I called my doctor's office to see what they thought of it. I found that different rules applied, and many people who had the "Advantage" plans were going back to traditional Medicare because of the differences. When I tried to talk with the insurance agent about the differences between the "Advantage" plan and Medicare, he said, "Forget everything you know about Medicare." That was enough to keep me from going there. I like Medicare, and I don't want to "forget everything" I know about it.
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| -For the millionth time, THERE IS NO PUBLIC OPTION |
debbierlus |
Nov-07-09 02:49 PM |
#0 |
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Unrecommending won't stop the truth from being true. |
debbierlus |
Nov-07-09 02:51 PM |
#1 |
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"The House Public Plan: Yes, It's Worth It" |
emulatorloo |
Nov-07-09 03:03 PM |
#11 |
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It possibly is a step but it is not a reform. It's like saying we are going to build warehouses for |
Go2Peace |
Nov-07-09 07:03 PM |
#80 |
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"we are just getting another "respite" while the same whoring goes on in the back rooms..." |
dysfunctional press |
Nov-08-09 12:21 AM |
#140 |
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When in doubt get philosophical |
PATRICK |
Nov-07-09 08:45 PM |
#107 |
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The ONLY option coming from this bill is that it opens the door for gov, involvlment |
bjobotts |
Nov-08-09 02:36 AM |
#154 |
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That's it. Maybe sometime in the future it can be expanded but avails nothing now. |
bjobotts |
Nov-08-09 02:37 AM |
#155 |
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It was the blue dogs who sank a 'robust' PO.They were well paid for their efforts. |
bjobotts |
Nov-08-09 02:38 AM |
#156 |
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Without the PO there is no real reform only an exchange of benefits which all favor private ins |
bjobotts |
Nov-08-09 02:41 AM |
#157 |
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Once again the corporatocracy thru its army of lobbyists told us what we are "allowed" to have. |
bjobotts |
Nov-08-09 02:42 AM |
#158 |
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while the puppets dangling from their strings convince us how great this is. |
bjobotts |
Nov-08-09 02:45 AM |
#159 |
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You couldn't make that one post? |
Le Taz Hot |
Nov-08-09 10:09 AM |
#185 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Nov-07-09 03:30 PM |
#27 |
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K&R |
Cleita |
Nov-07-09 02:52 PM |
#2 |
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Name removed |
Nov-07-09 02:57 PM |
#5 |
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That's untrue. |
Cleita |
Nov-07-09 02:58 PM |
#6 |
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"What Social Security Teaches Us About Health Care" |
emulatorloo |
Nov-07-09 03:00 PM |
#8 |
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We aren't talking about Social Security but Medicare, a successful health |
Cleita |
Nov-07-09 03:04 PM |
#12 |
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The point is Social Security wasn't a "perfect" bill either, but it was expanded out |
emulatorloo |
Nov-07-09 03:06 PM |
#16 |
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If you believe that, I have a nice bridge to sell to you in San Francisco. |
Cleita |
Nov-07-09 03:23 PM |
#20 |
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The same kind of resistance met Social Security and Medicare. Reagan and his ilk |
emulatorloo |
Nov-07-09 03:27 PM |
#24 |
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They have to or they would never be elected into office again. |
Cleita |
Nov-07-09 03:34 PM |
#28 |
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Those Medicare "Advantage" Plans |
TicketyBoo |
Nov-08-09 12:53 AM |
#146 |
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And doesn't the government PAY private insurers to run MA? |
zoff |
Nov-08-09 04:33 AM |
#164 |
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The Medicare Part B |
TicketyBoo |
Nov-08-09 09:32 AM |
#179 |
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Yes, my husband got caught up in one and it almost cost him his life |
Cleita |
Nov-08-09 03:01 PM |
#208 |
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AND, how the fuck exactly, can they NOT defend it? Don't be an............ |
pattmarty |
Nov-07-09 07:24 PM |
#85 |
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Social Security has always been a government program, administered by the government. |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-07-09 04:40 PM |
#64 |
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She is against REAL HCR, and is for FANTASY HCR. |
tridim |
Nov-07-09 03:00 PM |
#9 |
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Fantasy HCR like Medicare for everyone? |
Cleita |
Nov-07-09 03:05 PM |
#14 |
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Wow. |
abelenkpe |
Nov-08-09 10:23 AM |
# |
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Well said. Far too many on this board lack the intellectual |
WestSeattle2 |
Nov-08-09 02:54 PM |
#205 |
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Don't you dare say such a thing to me. |
debbierlus |
Nov-07-09 03:01 PM |
#10 |
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I can say whatever I want about you. |
tridim |
Nov-07-09 03:04 PM |
#13 |
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Name removed |
Nov-07-09 03:19 PM |
#19 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-07-09 03:24 PM |
#21 |
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The insurance industry WROTE it - as did big pharm - a very relevant post from July |
debbierlus |
Nov-07-09 03:50 PM |
#42 |
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The insurance industry is a very seasoned bunch when it comes to |
ooglymoogly |
Nov-08-09 12:37 AM |
#144 |
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"I noticed you didn't counter ONE of the arguments I made about the public option" |
bobbolink |
Nov-07-09 03:45 PM |
#35 |
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debbie |
placton |
Nov-07-09 08:40 PM |
#106 |
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Oh please. Take five. Are we obligated to love this bill? |
tblue |
Nov-07-09 03:24 PM |
#22 |
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Of course not. Never said that. |
tridim |
Nov-07-09 03:25 PM |
#23 |
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Yes, we are obligated to LOVE whatever tridim dictates that we love. |
bobbolink |
Nov-07-09 03:46 PM |
#36 |
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Please point out where I said that. |
tridim |
Nov-07-09 03:49 PM |
#39 |
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You've repeated it several times. |
bobbolink |
Nov-07-09 03:51 PM |
#43 |
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Now you're just lying. |
tridim |
Nov-07-09 03:52 PM |
#44 |
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I've had it with your name-calling and your attacks. |
bobbolink |
Nov-07-09 03:56 PM |
#46 |
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Alert me. I certainly don't like her position, that should be obvious. |
tridim |
Nov-07-09 04:00 PM |
#52 |
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One look at all your posts on this thread SHOW your intentions very clearly. |
bobbolink |
Nov-07-09 04:04 PM |
#57 |
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It isn't a vendetta just because you claim it is. |
tridim |
Nov-07-09 04:05 PM |
#58 |
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You think DU should be a very small tent where your minority views can be imposed on others. |
Better Believe It |
Nov-07-09 04:10 PM |
#61 |
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This thread is about HCR and I want it to pass, yes. |
tridim |
Nov-07-09 04:11 PM |
#62 |
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Do you think a majority favor a bailout of the insurance industry or do they favor |
Better Believe It |
Nov-07-09 06:29 PM |
#76 |
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Hmmm |
maryf |
Nov-07-09 08:17 PM |
# |
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wrong place |
bobbolink |
Nov-08-09 08:20 PM |
#211 |
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The point she is making is that you are following ideology rather then thinking |
digidigido |
Nov-08-09 12:11 AM |
#138 |
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She has a right to vent her frustrations with the Democratic "majority" |
eilen |
Nov-08-09 07:25 AM |
#173 |
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Funny, you say pessimism and defeatism. I say it looks like the TRUTH. |
peacetalksforall |
Nov-08-09 11:22 AM |
#195 |
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No, you actually CAN'T. The rules apply to you, the same as to everyone else. |
bobbolink |
Nov-07-09 03:44 PM |
#33 |
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AND, you will be labeled for what you are, naive. |
pattmarty |
Nov-07-09 07:27 PM |
#88 |
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Damn straight... |
regnaD kciN |
Nov-07-09 09:13 PM |
#115 |
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Nothing will be added to it for decades. |
Ken Burch |
Nov-08-09 02:14 AM |
#153 |
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Do you work for the insurance lobby? |
spiritual_gunfighter |
Nov-08-09 10:14 AM |
#187 |
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I support a Democratic HCR reform bill too. |
The Gunslinger |
Nov-08-09 08:24 PM |
#212 |
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I prefer to quote Abraham Lincoln. |
SandWalker1984 |
Nov-07-09 11:58 PM |
#136 |
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Excellent quote. I'll have to remember that one. n/t |
Kermitt Gribble |
Nov-08-09 10:49 AM |
#190 |
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Bravo. |
emilyg |
Nov-08-09 01:16 AM |
#152 |
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what a ridiculous lie. |
inna |
Nov-07-09 03:36 PM |
#29 |
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I suggest alerting. |
bobbolink |
Nov-07-09 03:48 PM |
#37 |
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So you're saying she's NOT against the Democratic HCR bill? |
tridim |
Nov-07-09 03:54 PM |
#45 |
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YOU are attacking with personal slams, and you know that is against the rules. |
bobbolink |
Nov-07-09 03:57 PM |
#49 |
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Unrecing a defeatist post is not against the rules. |
tridim |
Nov-07-09 04:02 PM |
#54 |
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I'm sure you're aware that your personal attacks ARE against the rules. |
bobbolink |
Nov-07-09 04:05 PM |
#59 |
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she's not against it because it's Democratic |
GreenArrow |
Nov-07-09 09:55 PM |
#126 |
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Amen! |
SandWalker1984 |
Nov-08-09 12:03 AM |
#137 |
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It's not purely personal. |
enlightenment |
Nov-07-09 03:56 PM |
#47 |
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Thank you. Have you alerted? |
bobbolink |
Nov-07-09 03:58 PM |
#50 |
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Got any proof? |
tridim |
Nov-07-09 04:03 PM |
#56 |
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I rec'd too. And we are winning here. |
freddie mertz |
Nov-08-09 06:09 AM |
#166 |
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At this point we need a foundaton on which to build. |
Skidmore |
Nov-07-09 02:52 PM |
#3 |
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Krugman, Dean and Grayson say it should be passed. |
tabatha |
Nov-07-09 03:05 PM |
#15 |
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When I mentioned that yesteday I was called "stupid" and a "kool-aide drinker" |
emulatorloo |
Nov-07-09 03:07 PM |
#18 |
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Well we've got to throw someone under the bus. |
Cant trust em |
Nov-07-09 04:46 PM |
#66 |
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Only because they see no other alternative. Not because it is good legislation, but because by |
Go2Peace |
Nov-07-09 07:08 PM |
#81 |
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I was listening to a discussion on the local progressive talk station this evening |
dflprincess |
Nov-07-09 09:18 PM |
#118 |
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Grayson is a partisan tool. |
DutchLiberal |
Nov-07-09 08:15 PM |
#99 |
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Dean is now a shrill of the biodrug compainies. Grayson talks |
joeycola |
Nov-07-09 09:06 PM |
#111 |
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Great...our new villains: Dean and Grayson... |
regnaD kciN |
Nov-07-09 09:16 PM |
#117 |
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They must have been trying to use sarcasm? |
Go2Peace |
Nov-07-09 11:24 PM |
#131 |
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What???? Are you a freeper in disguise????? |
Go2Peace |
Nov-07-09 11:20 PM |
#130 |
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not to mention Weiner- who fought passionately for the public option |
BREMPRO |
Nov-08-09 12:31 AM |
#141 |
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Building on greeding insurance compainies is NOT a sound foundation!! |
joeycola |
Nov-07-09 09:05 PM |
#110 |
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Thank you |
DJ13 |
Nov-07-09 02:52 PM |
#4 |
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And the other options are? |
AndyA |
Nov-07-09 03:00 PM |
#7 |
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+1 |
tabatha |
Nov-07-09 03:06 PM |
#17 |
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Agree. Build upon the HCR, as we see the things that need |
Sukie |
Nov-07-09 03:27 PM |
#25 |
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The alternative is to stop accepting utter crap and actually fight for real reform. |
debbierlus |
Nov-07-09 03:27 PM |
#26 |
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Then how exactly do you suggest we refer to this current |
Fire1 |
Nov-07-09 07:35 PM |
#91 |
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One option you forgot ...... |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-07-09 03:37 PM |
#31 |
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. |
bobbolink |
Nov-07-09 03:50 PM |
#41 |
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+1 |
Individualist |
Nov-07-09 04:08 PM |
#60 |
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+1.... |
mike_c |
Nov-07-09 04:56 PM |
#71 |
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Yep. Take our scraps and bones and be thankful, thankful! (n/t) |
bread_and_roses |
Nov-08-09 06:30 AM |
#168 |
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+1 nt |
phasma ex machina |
Nov-08-09 11:17 AM |
#193 |
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abort this crap and start over with Universal Heath Care. |
inna |
Nov-07-09 03:39 PM |
#32 |
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yep |
dana_b |
Nov-07-09 04:56 PM |
#70 |
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+10 |
kath |
Nov-08-09 12:34 AM |
#142 |
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True, it is a "lesser evil" bill". There is a risk though, that it will actually be bad for us in |
Go2Peace |
Nov-07-09 07:17 PM |
#82 |
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+10. n/t |
Fire1 |
Nov-07-09 07:31 PM |
#89 |
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We might have been better off if they had done nothing |
dflprincess |
Nov-07-09 09:14 PM |
#116 |
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Here is a clue... |
Andronex |
Nov-08-09 03:02 AM |
#161 |
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or 5. Do it right. |
The Gunslinger |
Nov-08-09 08:38 PM |
#214 |
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This "no public option" will save me $25,000/yr |
HughMoran |
Nov-07-09 03:36 PM |
#30 |
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Yeah, the crappy "No Public Option" is my only choice, and can't happen soon enough. |
Ikonoklast |
Nov-07-09 03:49 PM |
#40 |
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It's bad enough the Republicans and insurance criminals are against this |
HughMoran |
Nov-07-09 03:59 PM |
#51 |
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Not true, Republicans are against anything. But insurance is no longer fighting this |
Go2Peace |
Nov-07-09 07:20 PM |
#83 |
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"Claim a moral victory" and then get back to doing what we REALLY enjoy... |
regnaD kciN |
Nov-07-09 09:20 PM |
#119 |
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Yes, dogs that we are we should beg for scraps. Imagine if Europeans took this approach? |
Go2Peace |
Nov-07-09 11:34 PM |
#133 |
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"I'll trust Dr. Dean and Paul Krugman... |
GreenArrow |
Nov-07-09 10:00 PM |
#128 |
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But they have a public track record, and history of opinions. |
Ikonoklast |
Nov-08-09 10:09 AM |
#186 |
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Debbie apparently doesn't care about real people like us. |
tridim |
Nov-07-09 03:57 PM |
#48 |
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Yes, Debbie doesn't care about people like us |
HughMoran |
Nov-07-09 04:02 PM |
#55 |
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She has become my new symbol for the DU that I just can't be a part of |
Cant trust em |
Nov-07-09 04:45 PM |
#65 |
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Do tell....How will that work? |
debbierlus |
Nov-07-09 04:48 PM |
#68 |
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Currently $40k/year at small company |
HughMoran |
Nov-07-09 05:03 PM |
#74 |
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Does your current policy pay 70% of expenses, that is the reference policy... |
slipslidingaway |
Nov-07-09 08:33 PM |
#104 |
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but nothing really happens until 2013 nt |
maryf |
Nov-07-09 08:20 PM |
#102 |
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Not true |
HughMoran |
Nov-07-09 08:36 PM |
#105 |
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If you are among the tiny % who will benefit, I'm glad for you, but that does not make it a good |
bread_and_roses |
Nov-08-09 06:55 AM |
#169 |
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Can you explain that? |
HereSince1628 |
Nov-08-09 07:17 AM |
#172 |
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+1 |
Coyote_Bandit |
Nov-07-09 03:45 PM |
#34 |
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They are bought and sold. |
juno jones |
Nov-07-09 09:08 PM |
#112 |
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You're right |
Coyote_Bandit |
Nov-08-09 08:54 AM |
#177 |
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Try to stay positive. It's far from universal healthcare but if people like |
Shagbark Hickory |
Nov-07-09 03:49 PM |
#38 |
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Better than nothing. |
enlightenment |
Nov-07-09 04:01 PM |
#53 |
| -
It's Romneycare. |
roamer65 |
Nov-07-09 04:15 PM |
#63 |
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I thought it was Pelosicare |
emulatorloo |
Nov-07-09 04:51 PM |
#69 |
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most people who aren't as informed as |
dana_b |
Nov-07-09 04:47 PM |
#67 |
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Only an idiot who hasn't been paying attention would think they qualify for the PO |
HughMoran |
Nov-07-09 07:38 PM |
#92 |
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Change we can pretend has happened. |
Karmadillo |
Nov-07-09 04:58 PM |
#72 |
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Ding ding ding ding! It is TOTALLY "change we can pretend has happened". |
kath |
Nov-08-09 12:38 AM |
#145 |
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agreed, 100 percent.... |
mike_c |
Nov-07-09 04:59 PM |
#73 |
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Sorry, but YOU'RE WRONG. |
johnaries |
Nov-07-09 05:12 PM |
#75 |
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+100, but don't waste your time |
berni_mccoy |
Nov-07-09 06:53 PM |
#78 |
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+1 more |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-07-09 07:25 PM |
#86 |
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She repeatedly calls her lie "the truth" |
HughMoran |
Nov-07-09 07:32 PM |
#90 |
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Sounds like a public option to me! n/t |
Fire1 |
Nov-07-09 07:39 PM |
#93 |
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Can employers choose not to provide a plan? |
patrice |
Nov-07-09 07:57 PM |
#96 |
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Open to anyone who qualifies is not open to everyone |
Raineyb |
Nov-08-09 11:34 AM |
#196 |
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LBJ twisted arms to do the right thing. Rahmbama twists arms just so they |
change_notfinetuning |
Nov-07-09 06:52 PM |
#77 |
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congress sucks n/t |
2Design |
Nov-07-09 07:03 PM |
#79 |
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Cheer up emo kid, you're makeup is running. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-07-09 07:23 PM |
#84 |
| -
bwahahaha +1 |
kid a |
Nov-07-09 07:41 PM |
#94 |
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Really Shading The Truth |
colsohlibgal |
Nov-07-09 07:27 PM |
#87 |
| -
But, remember, all the payoffs "our" side got will help them get re-elected. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-07-09 07:48 PM |
#95 |
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I might consider your opinion if your history wasn't so pocked with negative posts. |
Avalux |
Nov-07-09 08:00 PM |
#97 |
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Exactly |
HughMoran |
Nov-07-09 08:18 PM |
#101 |
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It reminds me a bit of the hillaryis44.com gang... |
regnaD kciN |
Nov-07-09 09:12 PM |
#114 |
| -
Reality as negativity. |
debbierlus |
Nov-07-09 09:52 PM |
#125 |
| -
In your world. n/t |
Avalux |
Nov-07-09 09:59 PM |
#127 |
| -
It's good to see that some people haven't stopped thinking... |
DutchLiberal |
Nov-07-09 08:13 PM |
#98 |
| -
Lie |
HughMoran |
Nov-07-09 08:17 PM |
#100 |
| -
Ad hominem attack, nt |
maryf |
Nov-07-09 10:10 PM |
#129 |
| -
This is simply not accurate |
ProSense |
Nov-07-09 08:26 PM |
#103 |
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Option advocates offer no information on who will create and run the “options” |
slipslidingaway |
Nov-07-09 08:57 PM |
#108 |
| -
Not true |
ProSense |
Nov-07-09 09:11 PM |
#113 |
| -
Where are the details as to how these options will be set up... |
slipslidingaway |
Nov-07-09 09:21 PM |
#120 |
| -
2013? |
abelenkpe |
Nov-08-09 10:35 AM |
#189 |
| -
I Agree and I Support You - I Happen to Be a Liberal First, a Democrat... Last |
theFrankFactor |
Nov-07-09 09:03 PM |
#109 |
| -
It's like Bill Maher said on Letterman the other night |
dflprincess |
Nov-07-09 09:23 PM |
#122 |
| -
Preach it Frank - you know, like the Democrats should be doing |
slay |
Nov-08-09 01:11 AM |
#151 |
| -
K&R! |
juno jones |
Nov-07-09 09:22 PM |
#121 |
| -
Great post! |
kath |
Nov-08-09 03:03 PM |
#209 |
| -
Thanks :) n/t |
juno jones |
Nov-08-09 08:32 PM |
#213 |
| -
A public option or a "real" public option? |
many a good man |
Nov-07-09 09:39 PM |
#123 |
| -
For the millionth-and-one time, you're full of crap... |
regnaD kciN |
Nov-07-09 09:47 PM |
#124 |
| -
K&R for every person who doesn't buy the propaganda |
mullard12ax7 |
Nov-07-09 11:33 PM |
#132 |
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debbierlus, Thanks for fighting for Democratic principles. This so called reform is |
John Q. Citizen |
Nov-07-09 11:35 PM |
#134 |
| -
The Cake Is A Lie! n/t |
Ian David |
Nov-07-09 11:36 PM |
#135 |
| -
Everyone that thinks this bill is great should read Paul Craig Roberts' latest |
SandWalker1984 |
Nov-08-09 12:13 AM |
#139 |
| -
Great reply SandWalker1984 - I wish I could recommend your reply |
slay |
Nov-08-09 01:04 AM |
#149 |
| -
Great Post, Thanks |
theFrankFactor |
Nov-08-09 10:00 AM |
#182 |
| -
Really excellent post. This definitely should be a separate thread so I |
snagglepuss |
Nov-08-09 10:23 AM |
#188 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-08-09 12:35 AM |
#143 |
| -
Thank you! |
slay |
Nov-08-09 01:00 AM |
#147 |
| -
+1 Amen! |
RufusTFirefly |
Nov-08-09 02:53 AM |
#160 |
| -
Thank you for not giving up and speaking truth to all the lies and disinfo here on DU! |
earth mom |
Nov-08-09 01:03 AM |
#148 |
| -
143+ recs in short order and still climbing to the top. |
chill_wind |
Nov-08-09 01:07 AM |
#150 |
| -
On the first step of the journey, get in the saddle or shove the saddle up your nose. |
lonestarnot |
Nov-08-09 03:29 AM |
#162 |
| -
They've passed a stimulus bill for private insurance. Recommended. |
Vidar |
Nov-08-09 03:34 AM |
#163 |
| -
Yup, it would seem so. |
Major Hogwash |
Nov-08-09 05:33 AM |
#165 |
| -
Exactly. Like everything about the US, it's illusory, yet reinforced by millions who NEED to believe |
Echo In Light |
Nov-08-09 07:06 AM |
#171 |
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I feel this bill will turn out more positive for people than they realize and open more folks up to |
ProgressOnTheMove |
Nov-08-09 06:30 AM |
#167 |
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This bill will mandate insurance purchase instead of providing a service ie. the |
midnight |
Nov-08-09 07:04 AM |
#170 |
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Same crap we ha have in MA. - and my insurance went up 12% this year. |
geckosfeet |
Nov-08-09 07:33 AM |
#174 |
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Bullshit! It's not single-payer. FYI News headline: "Health care bill passes with public option" |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-08-09 07:52 AM |
#175 |
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If it stops the industry shenanigans re: pre-ex conditions, then it's still worthwhile. |
Jester Messiah |
Nov-08-09 08:08 AM |
#176 |
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Wrong, wrong, and wrong. |
pnwmom |
Nov-08-09 09:22 AM |
#178 |
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It's a solution worse than nothing. |
Chan790 |
Nov-08-09 09:38 AM |
#180 |
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We fell for the old Good Cop-Bad Cop routine |
kpominville |
Nov-08-09 09:47 AM |
#181 |
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Who's "we"? Some of us didn't. Never did. Thank you, debbie! n/t |
RufusTFirefly |
Nov-08-09 12:50 PM |
#199 |
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US |
abelenkpe |
Nov-08-09 10:05 AM |
#183 |
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It IS a public option. Maybe a sham of a P.O., but since it's paid for by the govt, it's a P.O. |
Honeycombe8 |
Nov-08-09 10:05 AM |
#184 |
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I Can't believe people are happy with that piece of shit |
fascisthunter |
Nov-08-09 10:54 AM |
#191 |
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This IS exactly why propoganda exists and public schools are defunded and people are paid minimum |
glitch |
Nov-08-09 11:08 AM |
#192 |
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Exactly like I've said all along: |
gorfle |
Nov-08-09 11:21 AM |
#194 |
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Exactly! The Orwellian nightmare continues |
Stumbler |
Nov-08-09 12:05 PM |
#197 |
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Right on!...The path we are on is a recipe for BACKLASH. . . . : |
Faryn Balyncd |
Nov-08-09 12:46 PM |
#198 |
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It should be called a private option |
rollingrock |
Nov-08-09 01:29 PM |
#200 |
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K&R |
pleah |
Nov-08-09 01:35 PM |
#201 |
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K&R |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-08-09 01:44 PM |
#202 |
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pround to be rec #241...k&r |
NotGivingUp |
Nov-08-09 02:33 PM |
#203 |
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K&R |
caseymoz |
Nov-08-09 02:43 PM |
#204 |
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Yeah but there is a mandatory abortion rider |
Generator |
Nov-08-09 02:56 PM |
#206 |
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Your Health Care Plan Just Got Taxed |
atomicweeder |
Nov-08-09 02:58 PM |
#207 |
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Thanks for the great thread, it is very difficult to watch this happen. |
Jefferson23 |
Nov-08-09 04:00 PM |
#210 |
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