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39. Please point out where I said that.
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  -For the millionth time, THERE IS NO PUBLIC OPTION debbierlus  Nov-07-09 02:49 PM   #0 
  - Unrecommending won't stop the truth from being true.  debbierlus   Nov-07-09 02:51 PM   #1 
  - "The House Public Plan: Yes, It's Worth It"  emulatorloo   Nov-07-09 03:03 PM   #11 
  - It possibly is a step but it is not a reform. It's like saying we are going to build warehouses for  Go2Peace   Nov-07-09 07:03 PM   #80 
  - "we are just getting another "respite" while the same whoring goes on in the back rooms..."  dysfunctional press   Nov-08-09 12:21 AM   #140 
  - When in doubt get philosophical  PATRICK   Nov-07-09 08:45 PM   #107 
     - The ONLY option coming from this bill is that it opens the door for gov, involvlment  bjobotts   Nov-08-09 02:36 AM   #154 
        - That's it. Maybe sometime in the future it can be expanded but avails nothing now.  bjobotts   Nov-08-09 02:37 AM   #155 
           - It was the blue dogs who sank a 'robust' PO.They were well paid for their efforts.  bjobotts   Nov-08-09 02:38 AM   #156 
              - Without the PO there is no real reform only an exchange of benefits which all favor private ins  bjobotts   Nov-08-09 02:41 AM   #157 
                 - Once again the corporatocracy thru its army of lobbyists told us what we are "allowed" to have.  bjobotts   Nov-08-09 02:42 AM   #158 
                    - while the puppets dangling from their strings convince us how great this is.  bjobotts   Nov-08-09 02:45 AM   #159 
                       - You couldn't make that one post?  Le Taz Hot   Nov-08-09 10:09 AM   #185 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-07-09 03:30 PM   #27 
  - K&R  Cleita   Nov-07-09 02:52 PM   #2 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-07-09 02:57 PM   #5 
  - That's untrue.  Cleita   Nov-07-09 02:58 PM   #6 
  - "What Social Security Teaches Us About Health Care"  emulatorloo   Nov-07-09 03:00 PM   #8 
  - We aren't talking about Social Security but Medicare, a successful health  Cleita   Nov-07-09 03:04 PM   #12 
  - The point is Social Security wasn't a "perfect" bill either, but it was expanded out  emulatorloo   Nov-07-09 03:06 PM   #16 
     - If you believe that, I have a nice bridge to sell to you in San Francisco.  Cleita   Nov-07-09 03:23 PM   #20 
        - The same kind of resistance met Social Security and Medicare. Reagan and his ilk  emulatorloo   Nov-07-09 03:27 PM   #24 
           - They have to or they would never be elected into office again.  Cleita   Nov-07-09 03:34 PM   #28 
           - Those Medicare "Advantage" Plans  TicketyBoo   Nov-08-09 12:53 AM   #146 
              - And doesn't the government PAY private insurers to run MA?  zoff   Nov-08-09 04:33 AM   #164 
              - The Medicare Part B  TicketyBoo   Nov-08-09 09:32 AM   #179 
              - Yes, my husband got caught up in one and it almost cost him his life  Cleita   Nov-08-09 03:01 PM   #208 
           - AND, how the fuck exactly, can they NOT defend it? Don't be an............  pattmarty   Nov-07-09 07:24 PM   #85 
  - Social Security has always been a government program, administered by the government.  Hello_Kitty   Nov-07-09 04:40 PM   #64 
  - She is against REAL HCR, and is for FANTASY HCR.  tridim   Nov-07-09 03:00 PM   #9 
     - Fantasy HCR like Medicare for everyone?  Cleita   Nov-07-09 03:05 PM   #14 
     - Wow.  abelenkpe   Nov-08-09 10:23 AM   # 
        - Well said. Far too many on this board lack the intellectual  WestSeattle2   Nov-08-09 02:54 PM   #205 
  - Don't you dare say such a thing to me.  debbierlus   Nov-07-09 03:01 PM   #10 
  - I can say whatever I want about you.  tridim   Nov-07-09 03:04 PM   #13 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-07-09 03:19 PM   #19 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-07-09 03:24 PM   #21 
  - The insurance industry WROTE it - as did big pharm - a very relevant post from July  debbierlus   Nov-07-09 03:50 PM   #42 
  - The insurance industry is a very seasoned bunch when it comes to  ooglymoogly   Nov-08-09 12:37 AM   #144 
  - "I noticed you didn't counter ONE of the arguments I made about the public option"  bobbolink   Nov-07-09 03:45 PM   #35 
  - debbie  placton   Nov-07-09 08:40 PM   #106 
  - Oh please. Take five. Are we obligated to love this bill?  tblue   Nov-07-09 03:24 PM   #22 
  - Of course not. Never said that.  tridim   Nov-07-09 03:25 PM   #23 
  - Yes, we are obligated to LOVE whatever tridim dictates that we love.  bobbolink   Nov-07-09 03:46 PM   #36 
     - Please point out where I said that.  tridim   Nov-07-09 03:49 PM   #39 
        - You've repeated it several times.  bobbolink   Nov-07-09 03:51 PM   #43 
           - Now you're just lying.  tridim   Nov-07-09 03:52 PM   #44 
              - I've had it with your name-calling and your attacks.  bobbolink   Nov-07-09 03:56 PM   #46 
                 - Alert me. I certainly don't like her position, that should be obvious.  tridim   Nov-07-09 04:00 PM   #52 
                    - One look at all your posts on this thread SHOW your intentions very clearly.  bobbolink   Nov-07-09 04:04 PM   #57 
                    - It isn't a vendetta just because you claim it is.  tridim   Nov-07-09 04:05 PM   #58 
                       - You think DU should be a very small tent where your minority views can be imposed on others.  Better Believe It   Nov-07-09 04:10 PM   #61 
                          - This thread is about HCR and I want it to pass, yes.  tridim   Nov-07-09 04:11 PM   #62 
                             - Do you think a majority favor a bailout of the insurance industry or do they favor  Better Believe It   Nov-07-09 06:29 PM   #76 
                             - Hmmm  maryf   Nov-07-09 08:17 PM   # 
                                - wrong place  bobbolink   Nov-08-09 08:20 PM   #211 
                    - The point she is making is that you are following ideology rather then thinking  digidigido   Nov-08-09 12:11 AM   #138 
                    - She has a right to vent her frustrations with the Democratic "majority"  eilen   Nov-08-09 07:25 AM   #173 
                    - Funny, you say pessimism and defeatism. I say it looks like the TRUTH.  peacetalksforall   Nov-08-09 11:22 AM   #195 
  - No, you actually CAN'T. The rules apply to you, the same as to everyone else.  bobbolink   Nov-07-09 03:44 PM   #33 
  - AND, you will be labeled for what you are, naive.  pattmarty   Nov-07-09 07:27 PM   #88 
  - Damn straight...  regnaD kciN   Nov-07-09 09:13 PM   #115 
  - Nothing will be added to it for decades.  Ken Burch   Nov-08-09 02:14 AM   #153 
  - Do you work for the insurance lobby?  spiritual_gunfighter   Nov-08-09 10:14 AM   #187 
  - I support a Democratic HCR reform bill too.  The Gunslinger   Nov-08-09 08:24 PM   #212 
  - I prefer to quote Abraham Lincoln.  SandWalker1984   Nov-07-09 11:58 PM   #136 
  - Excellent quote. I'll have to remember that one. n/t  Kermitt Gribble   Nov-08-09 10:49 AM   #190 
  - Bravo.  emilyg   Nov-08-09 01:16 AM   #152 
  - what a ridiculous lie.  inna   Nov-07-09 03:36 PM   #29 
     - I suggest alerting.  bobbolink   Nov-07-09 03:48 PM   #37 
        - So you're saying she's NOT against the Democratic HCR bill?  tridim   Nov-07-09 03:54 PM   #45 
        - YOU are attacking with personal slams, and you know that is against the rules.  bobbolink   Nov-07-09 03:57 PM   #49 
        - Unrecing a defeatist post is not against the rules.  tridim   Nov-07-09 04:02 PM   #54 
           - I'm sure you're aware that your personal attacks ARE against the rules.  bobbolink   Nov-07-09 04:05 PM   #59 
        - she's not against it because it's Democratic  GreenArrow   Nov-07-09 09:55 PM   #126 
           - Amen!  SandWalker1984   Nov-08-09 12:03 AM   #137 
        - It's not purely personal.  enlightenment   Nov-07-09 03:56 PM   #47 
           - Thank you. Have you alerted?  bobbolink   Nov-07-09 03:58 PM   #50 
           - Got any proof?  tridim   Nov-07-09 04:03 PM   #56 
  - I rec'd too. And we are winning here.  freddie mertz   Nov-08-09 06:09 AM   #166 
  - At this point we need a foundaton on which to build.  Skidmore   Nov-07-09 02:52 PM   #3 
  - Krugman, Dean and Grayson say it should be passed.  tabatha   Nov-07-09 03:05 PM   #15 
  - When I mentioned that yesteday I was called "stupid" and a "kool-aide drinker"  emulatorloo   Nov-07-09 03:07 PM   #18 
  - Well we've got to throw someone under the bus.  Cant trust em   Nov-07-09 04:46 PM   #66 
  - Only because they see no other alternative. Not because it is good legislation, but because by  Go2Peace   Nov-07-09 07:08 PM   #81 
  - I was listening to a discussion on the local progressive talk station this evening  dflprincess   Nov-07-09 09:18 PM   #118 
  - Grayson is a partisan tool.  DutchLiberal   Nov-07-09 08:15 PM   #99 
  - Dean is now a shrill of the biodrug compainies. Grayson talks  joeycola   Nov-07-09 09:06 PM   #111 
  - Great...our new villains: Dean and Grayson...  regnaD kciN   Nov-07-09 09:16 PM   #117 
  - They must have been trying to use sarcasm?  Go2Peace   Nov-07-09 11:24 PM   #131 
  - What???? Are you a freeper in disguise?????  Go2Peace   Nov-07-09 11:20 PM   #130 
  - not to mention Weiner- who fought passionately for the public option  BREMPRO   Nov-08-09 12:31 AM   #141 
  - Building on greeding insurance compainies is NOT a sound foundation!!  joeycola   Nov-07-09 09:05 PM   #110 
  - Thank you  DJ13   Nov-07-09 02:52 PM   #4 
  - And the other options are?  AndyA   Nov-07-09 03:00 PM   #7 
  - +1  tabatha   Nov-07-09 03:06 PM   #17 
  - Agree. Build upon the HCR, as we see the things that need  Sukie   Nov-07-09 03:27 PM   #25 
  - The alternative is to stop accepting utter crap and actually fight for real reform.  debbierlus   Nov-07-09 03:27 PM   #26 
  - Then how exactly do you suggest we refer to this current  Fire1   Nov-07-09 07:35 PM   #91 
  - One option you forgot ......  Stinky The Clown   Nov-07-09 03:37 PM   #31 
  - .  bobbolink   Nov-07-09 03:50 PM   #41 
  - +1  Individualist   Nov-07-09 04:08 PM   #60 
  - +1....  mike_c   Nov-07-09 04:56 PM   #71 
  - Yep. Take our scraps and bones and be thankful, thankful! (n/t)  bread_and_roses   Nov-08-09 06:30 AM   #168 
  - +1 nt  phasma ex machina   Nov-08-09 11:17 AM   #193 
  - abort this crap and start over with Universal Heath Care.  inna   Nov-07-09 03:39 PM   #32 
  - yep  dana_b   Nov-07-09 04:56 PM   #70 
  - +10  kath   Nov-08-09 12:34 AM   #142 
  - True, it is a "lesser evil" bill". There is a risk though, that it will actually be bad for us in  Go2Peace   Nov-07-09 07:17 PM   #82 
  - +10. n/t  Fire1   Nov-07-09 07:31 PM   #89 
  - We might have been better off if they had done nothing  dflprincess   Nov-07-09 09:14 PM   #116 
  - Here is a clue...  Andronex   Nov-08-09 03:02 AM   #161 
  - or 5. Do it right.  The Gunslinger   Nov-08-09 08:38 PM   #214 
  - This "no public option" will save me $25,000/yr  HughMoran   Nov-07-09 03:36 PM   #30 
  - Yeah, the crappy "No Public Option" is my only choice, and can't happen soon enough.  Ikonoklast   Nov-07-09 03:49 PM   #40 
  - It's bad enough the Republicans and insurance criminals are against this  HughMoran   Nov-07-09 03:59 PM   #51 
  - Not true, Republicans are against anything. But insurance is no longer fighting this  Go2Peace   Nov-07-09 07:20 PM   #83 
  - "Claim a moral victory" and then get back to doing what we REALLY enjoy...  regnaD kciN   Nov-07-09 09:20 PM   #119 
  - Yes, dogs that we are we should beg for scraps. Imagine if Europeans took this approach?  Go2Peace   Nov-07-09 11:34 PM   #133 
  - "I'll trust Dr. Dean and Paul Krugman...  GreenArrow   Nov-07-09 10:00 PM   #128 
     - But they have a public track record, and history of opinions.  Ikonoklast   Nov-08-09 10:09 AM   #186 
  - Debbie apparently doesn't care about real people like us.  tridim   Nov-07-09 03:57 PM   #48 
  - Yes, Debbie doesn't care about people like us  HughMoran   Nov-07-09 04:02 PM   #55 
     - She has become my new symbol for the DU that I just can't be a part of  Cant trust em   Nov-07-09 04:45 PM   #65 
  - Do tell....How will that work?  debbierlus   Nov-07-09 04:48 PM   #68 
  - Currently $40k/year at small company  HughMoran   Nov-07-09 05:03 PM   #74 
     - Does your current policy pay 70% of expenses, that is the reference policy...  slipslidingaway   Nov-07-09 08:33 PM   #104 
  - but nothing really happens until 2013 nt  maryf   Nov-07-09 08:20 PM   #102 
  - Not true  HughMoran   Nov-07-09 08:36 PM   #105 
  - If you are among the tiny % who will benefit, I'm glad for you, but that does not make it a good  bread_and_roses   Nov-08-09 06:55 AM   #169 
  - Can you explain that?  HereSince1628   Nov-08-09 07:17 AM   #172 
  - +1  Coyote_Bandit   Nov-07-09 03:45 PM   #34 
  - They are bought and sold.  juno jones   Nov-07-09 09:08 PM   #112 
     - You're right  Coyote_Bandit   Nov-08-09 08:54 AM   #177 
  - Try to stay positive. It's far from universal healthcare but if people like  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-07-09 03:49 PM   #38 
  - Better than nothing.  enlightenment   Nov-07-09 04:01 PM   #53 
  - It's Romneycare.  roamer65   Nov-07-09 04:15 PM   #63 
  - I thought it was Pelosicare  emulatorloo   Nov-07-09 04:51 PM   #69 
  - most people who aren't as informed as  dana_b   Nov-07-09 04:47 PM   #67 
  - Only an idiot who hasn't been paying attention would think they qualify for the PO  HughMoran   Nov-07-09 07:38 PM   #92 
  - Change we can pretend has happened.  Karmadillo   Nov-07-09 04:58 PM   #72 
  - Ding ding ding ding! It is TOTALLY "change we can pretend has happened".  kath   Nov-08-09 12:38 AM   #145 
  - agreed, 100 percent....  mike_c   Nov-07-09 04:59 PM   #73 
  - Sorry, but YOU'RE WRONG.  johnaries   Nov-07-09 05:12 PM   #75 
  - +100, but don't waste your time  berni_mccoy   Nov-07-09 06:53 PM   #78 
  - +1 more  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-07-09 07:25 PM   #86 
  - She repeatedly calls her lie "the truth"  HughMoran   Nov-07-09 07:32 PM   #90 
  - Sounds like a public option to me! n/t  Fire1   Nov-07-09 07:39 PM   #93 
  - Can employers choose not to provide a plan?  patrice   Nov-07-09 07:57 PM   #96 
  - Open to anyone who qualifies is not open to everyone  Raineyb   Nov-08-09 11:34 AM   #196 
  - LBJ twisted arms to do the right thing. Rahmbama twists arms just so they  change_notfinetuning   Nov-07-09 06:52 PM   #77 
  - congress sucks n/t  2Design   Nov-07-09 07:03 PM   #79 
  - Cheer up emo kid, you're makeup is running. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-07-09 07:23 PM   #84 
  - bwahahaha +1  kid a   Nov-07-09 07:41 PM   #94 
  - Really Shading The Truth  colsohlibgal   Nov-07-09 07:27 PM   #87 
  - But, remember, all the payoffs "our" side got will help them get re-elected.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-07-09 07:48 PM   #95 
  - I might consider your opinion if your history wasn't so pocked with negative posts.  Avalux   Nov-07-09 08:00 PM   #97 
  - Exactly  HughMoran   Nov-07-09 08:18 PM   #101 
  - It reminds me a bit of the hillaryis44.com gang...  regnaD kciN   Nov-07-09 09:12 PM   #114 
  - Reality as negativity.  debbierlus   Nov-07-09 09:52 PM   #125 
     - In your world. n/t  Avalux   Nov-07-09 09:59 PM   #127 
  - It's good to see that some people haven't stopped thinking...  DutchLiberal   Nov-07-09 08:13 PM   #98 
  - Lie  HughMoran   Nov-07-09 08:17 PM   #100 
  - Ad hominem attack, nt  maryf   Nov-07-09 10:10 PM   #129 
  - This is simply not accurate  ProSense   Nov-07-09 08:26 PM   #103 
  - Option advocates offer no information on who will create and run the options  slipslidingaway   Nov-07-09 08:57 PM   #108 
     - Not true  ProSense   Nov-07-09 09:11 PM   #113 
        - Where are the details as to how these options will be set up...  slipslidingaway   Nov-07-09 09:21 PM   #120 
        - 2013?  abelenkpe   Nov-08-09 10:35 AM   #189 
  - I Agree and I Support You - I Happen to Be a Liberal First, a Democrat... Last  theFrankFactor   Nov-07-09 09:03 PM   #109 
  - It's like Bill Maher said on Letterman the other night  dflprincess   Nov-07-09 09:23 PM   #122 
  - Preach it Frank - you know, like the Democrats should be doing  slay   Nov-08-09 01:11 AM   #151 
  - K&R!  juno jones   Nov-07-09 09:22 PM   #121 
  - Great post!  kath   Nov-08-09 03:03 PM   #209 
     - Thanks :) n/t  juno jones   Nov-08-09 08:32 PM   #213 
  - A public option or a "real" public option?  many a good man   Nov-07-09 09:39 PM   #123 
  - For the millionth-and-one time, you're full of crap...  regnaD kciN   Nov-07-09 09:47 PM   #124 
  - K&R for every person who doesn't buy the propaganda  mullard12ax7   Nov-07-09 11:33 PM   #132 
  - debbierlus, Thanks for fighting for Democratic principles. This so called reform is  John Q. Citizen   Nov-07-09 11:35 PM   #134 
  - The Cake Is A Lie! n/t  Ian David   Nov-07-09 11:36 PM   #135 
  - Everyone that thinks this bill is great should read Paul Craig Roberts' latest  SandWalker1984   Nov-08-09 12:13 AM   #139 
  - Great reply SandWalker1984 - I wish I could recommend your reply  slay   Nov-08-09 01:04 AM   #149 
  - Great Post, Thanks  theFrankFactor   Nov-08-09 10:00 AM   #182 
  - Really excellent post. This definitely should be a separate thread so I  snagglepuss   Nov-08-09 10:23 AM   #188 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-08-09 12:35 AM   #143 
  - Thank you!  slay   Nov-08-09 01:00 AM   #147 
  - +1 Amen!  RufusTFirefly   Nov-08-09 02:53 AM   #160 
  - Thank you for not giving up and speaking truth to all the lies and disinfo here on DU!  earth mom   Nov-08-09 01:03 AM   #148 
  - 143+ recs in short order and still climbing to the top.  chill_wind   Nov-08-09 01:07 AM   #150 
  - On the first step of the journey, get in the saddle or shove the saddle up your nose.  lonestarnot   Nov-08-09 03:29 AM   #162 
  - They've passed a stimulus bill for private insurance. Recommended.  Vidar   Nov-08-09 03:34 AM   #163 
  - Yup, it would seem so.  Major Hogwash   Nov-08-09 05:33 AM   #165 
  - Exactly. Like everything about the US, it's illusory, yet reinforced by millions who NEED to believe  Echo In Light   Nov-08-09 07:06 AM   #171 
  - I feel this bill will turn out more positive for people than they realize and open more folks up to  ProgressOnTheMove   Nov-08-09 06:30 AM   #167 
  - This bill will mandate insurance purchase instead of providing a service ie. the  midnight   Nov-08-09 07:04 AM   #170 
  - Same crap we ha have in MA. - and my insurance went up 12% this year.  geckosfeet   Nov-08-09 07:33 AM   #174 
  - Bullshit! It's not single-payer. FYI News headline: "Health care bill passes with public option"  ClarkUSA   Nov-08-09 07:52 AM   #175 
  - If it stops the industry shenanigans re: pre-ex conditions, then it's still worthwhile.  Jester Messiah   Nov-08-09 08:08 AM   #176 
  - Wrong, wrong, and wrong.  pnwmom   Nov-08-09 09:22 AM   #178 
  - It's a solution worse than nothing.  Chan790   Nov-08-09 09:38 AM   #180 
  - We fell for the old Good Cop-Bad Cop routine  kpominville   Nov-08-09 09:47 AM   #181 
  - Who's "we"? Some of us didn't. Never did. Thank you, debbie! n/t  RufusTFirefly   Nov-08-09 12:50 PM   #199 
  - US  abelenkpe   Nov-08-09 10:05 AM   #183 
  - It IS a public option. Maybe a sham of a P.O., but since it's paid for by the govt, it's a P.O.  Honeycombe8   Nov-08-09 10:05 AM   #184 
  - I Can't believe people are happy with that piece of shit  fascisthunter   Nov-08-09 10:54 AM   #191 
  - This IS exactly why propoganda exists and public schools are defunded and people are paid minimum  glitch   Nov-08-09 11:08 AM   #192 
  - Exactly like I've said all along:  gorfle   Nov-08-09 11:21 AM   #194 
  - Exactly! The Orwellian nightmare continues  Stumbler   Nov-08-09 12:05 PM   #197 
  - Right on!...The path we are on is a recipe for BACKLASH. . . . :  Faryn Balyncd   Nov-08-09 12:46 PM   #198 
  - It should be called a private option  rollingrock   Nov-08-09 01:29 PM   #200 
  - K&R  pleah   Nov-08-09 01:35 PM   #201 
  - K&R  IndianaGreen   Nov-08-09 01:44 PM   #202 
  - pround to be rec #241...k&r  NotGivingUp   Nov-08-09 02:33 PM   #203 
  - K&R  caseymoz   Nov-08-09 02:43 PM   #204 
  - Yeah but there is a mandatory abortion rider  Generator   Nov-08-09 02:56 PM   #206 
  - Your Health Care Plan Just Got Taxed  atomicweeder   Nov-08-09 02:58 PM   #207 
  - Thanks for the great thread, it is very difficult to watch this happen.  Jefferson23   Nov-08-09 04:00 PM   #210 
 

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