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Fri Nov-06-09 07:35 AM
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| 13. Why do these shooters take so many down with them? |
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Why didn't he just blow his own head off?
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| -Shit, shit, shit: Army: Suspect said `Allahu Akbar!' before shooting |
cali |
Nov-06-09 07:22 AM |
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Of course. He probably screamed 'jihadi jihadi - die american pigs' |
geckosfeet |
Nov-06-09 07:24 AM |
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do you know, it might just be what it is. there is nothing to defend. no need |
seabeyond |
Nov-06-09 08:08 AM |
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lol. you're funny. yes, we know both the government & the military are |
Hannah Bell |
Nov-06-09 08:12 AM |
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like that is what i said. hey hannah... do you ever discuss the post or change it up to |
seabeyond |
Nov-06-09 08:22 AM |
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That poster gets his news from Trotskyite websites. No use arguing with him. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-06-09 08:44 AM |
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i never argue with this poster. learned long ago, waste of time. unfortunately |
seabeyond |
Nov-06-09 08:59 AM |
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"never"? lol. |
Hannah Bell |
Nov-06-09 02:54 PM |
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did it with you once.... wink. nt |
seabeyond |
Nov-06-09 04:21 PM |
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"once"? lol. |
Hannah Bell |
Nov-06-09 07:44 PM |
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when you operate from the frame that everything you hear 100% of the time is a lie, you're paranoid. |
dionysus |
Nov-06-09 08:36 AM |
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Thanks for the free analysis. |
geckosfeet |
Nov-06-09 04:33 PM |
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Thank God George H W Bush told us all about the terrifying baby incubator murders, |
Judi Lynn |
Nov-06-09 03:08 PM |
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I live for it. mmmm. not really. what i do though, is set back and listen |
seabeyond |
Nov-06-09 04:23 PM |
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And yet if a Christian snapped and screamed "God help me!"? |
Barack_America |
Nov-06-09 08:23 AM |
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Probably did a shout out to his "brother" Hussein Obama, too - I HEARD it!!! |
TankLV |
Nov-06-09 08:29 AM |
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Why is that different than saying |
Gman |
Nov-06-09 07:24 AM |
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Perhaps, but that's not my point. |
cali |
Nov-06-09 07:25 AM |
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Different because it accentuates the hate & fear of Muslims! |
napi21 |
Nov-06-09 07:28 AM |
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It's different because "Allahu Akbar" will generate a certain reaction here |
MH1 |
Nov-06-09 07:28 AM |
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That's it in a nutshell. |
cali |
Nov-06-09 07:29 AM |
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"the guy went nuts" |
BennyD |
Nov-06-09 07:56 AM |
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But there are also reports that he was a "highly dedicated soldier" |
TornadoTN |
Nov-06-09 08:00 AM |
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I agree. n/t |
BennyD |
Nov-06-09 08:12 AM |
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I just saw a video on CNN |
BennyD |
Nov-06-09 08:20 AM |
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There's a lot of evidence that he "went nuts" |
cali |
Nov-06-09 08:15 AM |
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"poor social skills" |
BennyD |
Nov-06-09 08:29 AM |
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bzzzt. sorry, that's just erroneous. one does not have to have |
cali |
Nov-06-09 08:34 AM |
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I had heard he was NOT an MD but had a degree from VaTech in |
NoSheep |
Nov-06-09 08:45 AM |
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That was his undergraduate degree |
TicketyBoo |
Nov-06-09 03:05 PM |
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His B.S. (undergraduate degree) was in biochemistry, a good major for those going into medicine. |
amandabeech |
Nov-06-09 03:10 PM |
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Thanks for that information, both of you. |
NoSheep |
Nov-06-09 05:11 PM |
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You're welcome! n/t |
amandabeech |
Nov-06-09 06:34 PM |
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Sorry, but I disagree. |
BennyD |
Nov-06-09 09:02 AM |
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It's psychologists/therapists that usually have better social skills. |
AllieB |
Nov-06-09 09:48 AM |
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I agree. nt |
amandabeech |
Nov-06-09 03:12 PM |
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One shard of evidence in favor of nuts is THAT HE KILLED 12 PEOPLE.nt |
Dreamer Tatum |
Nov-06-09 08:31 AM |
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What do you think people who "go nuts" look like? |
Barack_America |
Nov-06-09 08:34 AM |
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True, but |
BennyD |
Nov-06-09 08:58 AM |
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Yes and no |
MH1 |
Nov-06-09 09:04 AM |
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touché (n/t) |
BennyD |
Nov-06-09 09:05 AM |
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Well, I take that phrase differently. |
TicketyBoo |
Nov-06-09 03:01 PM |
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That is just as disgusting as saying Allah Akbar. |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Nov-06-09 07:29 AM |
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Too bad there won't be many who will point this out, especially any other Military counselors etc. |
patrice |
Nov-06-09 07:31 AM |
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In the military, not so much due to the incident and heightened awareness. |
mmonk |
Nov-06-09 07:25 AM |
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Yeah, you may be right. |
cali |
Nov-06-09 07:27 AM |
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Hopefully, people aren't as stupid as you'd think... |
BolivarianHero |
Nov-06-09 07:34 AM |
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Hopefully. |
cali |
Nov-06-09 07:35 AM |
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And I remember how many |
leftynyc |
Nov-06-09 09:03 AM |
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Why not? |
BolivarianHero |
Nov-06-09 09:15 AM |
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Are you going to be surprised |
leftynyc |
Nov-06-09 09:19 AM |
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Why do these shooters take so many down with them? |
TheCowsCameHome |
Nov-06-09 07:35 AM |
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Very simple. |
BolivarianHero |
Nov-06-09 07:38 AM |
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Perfectly said. Hate seeks to replicate itself. |
Bucky |
Nov-06-09 01:59 PM |
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Why do people who commit suicide kill their families first? You can't explain |
Arkansas Granny |
Nov-06-09 07:48 AM |
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Hatred is an empty stomach that can't be filled....that's why. |
BennyD |
Nov-06-09 07:59 AM |
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Most don't. Have you been following the rash of suicides in the army? |
Barack_America |
Nov-06-09 08:38 AM |
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Hopefully they won't. |
Bucky |
Nov-06-09 02:01 PM |
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Yeah, and Lt. Gen. Robert Cone said they've not confirmed yet if he really did |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Nov-06-09 07:37 AM |
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If that is the case, they acted irresponsibly. |
mmonk |
Nov-06-09 07:41 AM |
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Same general who said the shooter was dead, IIRC. nt |
Robb |
Nov-06-09 07:44 AM |
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I'd suggest cutting him slack here. |
Bucky |
Nov-06-09 02:07 PM |
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After the "investigation" into the death of Pat Tillman... |
Hepburn |
Nov-06-09 07:41 AM |
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No, but it really doesn't matter. It's being widely reported. |
cali |
Nov-06-09 07:43 AM |
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Yeah, sad but true, you most likely are correct. n/t |
Hepburn |
Nov-06-09 07:49 AM |
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Well they are the only source of information on this one |
el_bryanto |
Nov-06-09 07:43 AM |
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Wow...that's a leap. |
Hepburn |
Nov-06-09 07:49 AM |
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OK - then in what points do you think the Army is being untruthful and, other than |
el_bryanto |
Nov-06-09 07:52 AM |
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other than it always does, you mean? |
Hannah Bell |
Nov-06-09 08:14 AM |
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Yes other than that. n/t |
el_bryanto |
Nov-06-09 08:29 AM |
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What evidence do you have that they are telling the truth? |
Hepburn |
Nov-06-09 09:03 AM |
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It's really too bad we can't round up all the fundamentalist |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-06-09 07:44 AM |
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Tell me you are not serious Julie. nt |
rhett o rick |
Nov-06-09 08:02 AM |
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Meh... |
Rebubula |
Nov-06-09 08:06 AM |
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Aren't you tired of innocent bystanders dying? |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-06-09 08:17 AM |
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So just exactly how would you identify these people that you want to "round up"? |
rhett o rick |
Nov-06-09 08:46 AM |
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It was a mostly flippant comment |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-06-09 08:54 AM |
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I completely understand |
rhett o rick |
Nov-06-09 09:29 AM |
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You could start with the following: |
Hepburn |
Nov-06-09 09:05 AM |
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Ok I am in. nt |
rhett o rick |
Nov-06-09 09:25 AM |
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I'm sorry but this is starting to seem a little |
mountainvue |
Nov-06-09 07:47 AM |
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I was having a flashback to "Dr. Strangelove" except with a Muslim twist. |
CTyankee |
Nov-06-09 07:50 AM |
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I honestly don't think it's that hard to figure out. |
cali |
Nov-06-09 07:52 AM |
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This whole thing is either one big fuck-up by the miltary or something else is going on |
TornadoTN |
Nov-06-09 07:54 AM |
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Yes just like what really happened the JFK or MLK or RFK. The gov will give us a report. nt |
rhett o rick |
Nov-06-09 08:05 AM |
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Ah, yes...conveniently anonymous soldiers. |
BadgerKid |
Nov-06-09 08:01 AM |
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Any explanations on how he shot close to 50 people before being subdued? nt |
rhett o rick |
Nov-06-09 08:04 AM |
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Good question. |
TheCowsCameHome |
Nov-06-09 08:06 AM |
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soldiers at fort hood don't carry weapons. He had two guns and an fishbowl of unarmed targets |
onenote |
Nov-06-09 08:14 AM |
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not true. my sister is a dental specialist at Ft. Hood. |
Soylent Brice |
Nov-06-09 09:04 AM |
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Bullshit! |
guardian |
Nov-06-09 11:32 AM |
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Horse Hockey! |
KathyTeaches |
Nov-06-09 11:38 AM |
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Dental Floss, duh! nt |
rhett o rick |
Nov-06-09 01:43 PM |
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They are saying now that some of the victims may have been "Friendly Fire" |
TornadoTN |
Nov-06-09 08:14 AM |
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two semi-automatic handguns with extra clips |
TorchTheWitch |
Nov-06-09 08:15 AM |
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Some of the victims were shot by the security guards when they arrived. |
tekisui |
Nov-06-09 08:16 AM |
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Not that hard a thing to do when those you are |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Nov-06-09 08:21 AM |
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A lot of people in a confined space is my understanding of events. |
mmonk |
Nov-06-09 08:22 AM |
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Because he chose an unsecured area on a base where weapons are prohibited |
slackmaster |
Nov-06-09 08:45 AM |
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You seem certain that he did all the damage. nt |
rhett o rick |
Nov-06-09 01:49 PM |
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of course he did, cali. that would go with the story about "violent internet posts," |
Hannah Bell |
Nov-06-09 08:10 AM |
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Nov-06-09 08:18 AM |
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Allahu Akbar (God is great) is not a violent expression. |
Barack_America |
Nov-06-09 08:39 AM |
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It is when |
TicketyBoo |
Nov-06-09 04:55 PM |
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I wonder what praising of Jesus Scott Roeder uttered |
WeDidIt |
Nov-06-09 08:15 AM |
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I'm calling bullshit on this one. |
arcadian |
Nov-06-09 08:16 AM |
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It may well be bullshit. Doesn 't matter. |
cali |
Nov-06-09 08:19 AM |
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Why? You wouldn't exclaim "God help me" before doing such a thing? |
Barack_America |
Nov-06-09 08:42 AM |
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"Acid is groovy"? n/t |
Orsino |
Nov-06-09 09:18 AM |
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THAT's a Hall of Famer. They wouldn't tell these whoppers if there weren't so many idiots |
Judi Lynn |
Nov-06-09 03:19 PM |
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I dunno. |
Orsino |
Nov-06-09 04:15 PM |
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:facepalm: |
HughMoran |
Nov-06-09 08:16 AM |
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It doesn't sound stupid at all. My first thought was "I hope this wasn't |
cali |
Nov-06-09 08:20 AM |
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Exactly. And then I instantly thought of another group of people who were probably thrilled. |
NoSheep |
Nov-06-09 09:32 AM |
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I wonder why an individual would want to promote hate against "his" people |
HughMoran |
Nov-06-09 10:13 AM |
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I think he was insane, therefore, I don't think he thought about that |
tavalon |
Nov-06-09 11:11 AM |
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Me, too. |
TicketyBoo |
Nov-06-09 04:56 PM |
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Yeah, the teabaggers are gonna be going apeshit now. |
backscatter712 |
Nov-06-09 08:20 AM |
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Like the "Nuke Mecca Now" crowd needed any more fuel for their "fire of stupidity"! |
bullwinkle428 |
Nov-06-09 08:31 AM |
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Of course, this is all barack HUSSEIN Obama's fault, ya know... |
TankLV |
Nov-06-09 08:34 AM |
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Of course they're not going to admit that they knew Hasan was a threat |
slackmaster |
Nov-06-09 08:44 AM |
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Oh crap. This is not going to be good. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-06-09 08:45 AM |
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I see it as potentially good as a source of dark entertainment |
slackmaster |
Nov-06-09 08:47 AM |
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Is this not the most commonly used Muslim prayer petition. |
OHdem10 |
Nov-06-09 08:49 AM |
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Nov-06-09 08:58 AM |
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For approximately the same reason that many Americans yell... |
LanternWaste |
Nov-06-09 09:11 AM |
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Because they have lost their mind? |
NoSheep |
Nov-06-09 09:30 AM |
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Because he was killing |
TicketyBoo |
Nov-06-09 05:01 PM |
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This stinks of "suicide by cop" so it would make sense for him to shout this |
justiceischeap |
Nov-06-09 11:13 AM |
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No, suicide by cop doesn't involve murder a dozen innocent bystanders. It's terrorism. |
Bucky |
Nov-06-09 01:53 PM |
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If only he'd been ... |
GeorgeGist |
Nov-06-09 12:37 PM |
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You're going to get a lot of negative responses. |
proteus_lives |
Nov-06-09 01:55 PM |
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It's only inciteful and hate speech when it is against anyone other than christians |
The Straight Story |
Nov-06-09 02:07 PM |
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Not known to be a threat? WTF! |
frogmarch |
Nov-06-09 03:02 PM |
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Someone from DU had family at the base and rumor has it that wasn't what he was screaming... |
LynneSin |
Nov-06-09 03:02 PM |
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has this been confirmed? it really doesn't matter...all media has printed/spoken of it as truth. |
spanone |
Nov-06-09 04:57 PM |
#130 |