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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #89
91. The trouble with folks who are all pissed off is that they lose their perspective
and end up screwing themselves and others over. Hopefully, good sense will prevail in Oregon- more often than not it does.
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  -Not Quite Done Being Pissed Off About Maine Toasterlad  Nov-05-09 11:23 AM   #0 
  - Plus you should not have to suffer for other people's religious prejudices.  Deep13   Nov-05-09 11:26 AM   #1 
  - The powerful majority will always vote against the rights  Warpy   Nov-05-09 11:39 AM   #2 
  - This is why referendums should not replace legislation  SoCalDem   Nov-06-09 05:58 AM   #128 
  - I just don't get it, Never have, never will.  Ineeda   Nov-05-09 11:48 AM   #3 
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  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-05-09 12:01 PM   #5 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 12:03 PM   #7 
  - Separation of church and state - LEARN IT, LOVE IT, LIVE IT.  bullwinkle428   Nov-05-09 12:07 PM   #8 
  - There's nothing wrong with it--as long as there's true separation  TwilightGardener   Nov-05-09 12:07 PM   #9 
  - A law is not a personal opinion  eShirl   Nov-05-09 12:16 PM   #11 
  - Marriage is not a religious institution. I got married at city hall in Chicago  SemiCharmedQuark   Nov-05-09 12:18 PM   #12 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 12:21 PM   #15 
     - They can believe whatever they want, but the LAW should not be based on their beliefs  SemiCharmedQuark   Nov-05-09 12:27 PM   #18 
     - All of the laws  kctim   Nov-05-09 12:57 PM   #42 
        - that poster was talking about RELIGIOUS BELIEFS  fascisthunter   Nov-05-09 01:01 PM   #48 
        - Is there any LEGAL reason to deny marriage equality?  SemiCharmedQuark   Nov-05-09 01:02 PM   #49 
           - You answered a question with a question  kctim   Nov-05-09 02:02 PM   #86 
     - Again, slower this time.  piratefish08   Nov-05-09 12:33 PM   #25 
        - I Don't Think He's Playing.  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 12:53 PM   #40 
  - Because as the OP said... now pay attention here  underseasurveyor   Nov-05-09 12:21 PM   #13 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 12:26 PM   #17 
     - People had deeply held opinions that African Americans weren't humans (in the strictest sense)  SemiCharmedQuark   Nov-05-09 12:28 PM   #19 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 12:31 PM   #21 
        - They can believe what they want. They can join up with a church that believes that shit.  SemiCharmedQuark   Nov-05-09 12:32 PM   #22 
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           - There Are Many States That Have OUTLAWED Civil Unions, Mr. I Have Not Heard.  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 12:52 PM   #36 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 12:32 PM   #23 
        - Marriage is the legal term. Let the churches invent some other word if they want to.  SemiCharmedQuark   Nov-05-09 12:33 PM   #24 
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           - Because marriage is the legal word. I got married in city hall and my marriage certificate says  SemiCharmedQuark   Nov-05-09 12:49 PM   #31 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 12:52 PM   #35 
              - No thanks. I don't think we should have to change legal words and definitions to suit bigots.  SemiCharmedQuark   Nov-05-09 12:53 PM   #37 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 01:16 PM   #68 
                    - If you want to change the word, you will have to convince the bigots to do it too.  raw oysters   Nov-05-09 02:52 PM   #96 
           - We Are Fighting Over Whether Or Not To Capitulate to Bigotry.  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 12:51 PM   #34 
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              - If You Are Not Going To Listen To People, It Is Pointless For You to Be On the Internets.  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 12:58 PM   #44 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 01:12 PM   #63 
              - Do you suggest a law that prevents churchs from calling a  Bluenorthwest   Nov-05-09 01:32 PM   #73 
           - Let them pick a new word or phrase. The legal one is marriage.  piratefish08   Nov-05-09 12:53 PM   #38 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 12:54 PM   #41 
              - So let the churches have 'religious unions' then  underseasurveyor   Nov-05-09 01:46 PM   # 
           - The law alrady owns the word Marriage.  ThomCat   Nov-05-09 01:46 PM   #78 
        - It seems you are playing games with words to avoid saying  Bluenorthwest   Nov-05-09 01:27 PM   #71 
        - And there's nothing stopping them from having the type of marriage they believe in, is there?  eShirl   Nov-05-09 12:35 PM   #26 
           - Example: The Catholic Church believes that marriages must be performed according to Catholic rules  SemiCharmedQuark   Nov-05-09 12:38 PM   #27 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 12:48 PM   #30 
                 - No. The government should not change the legal term because churches want to be bigoted  SemiCharmedQuark   Nov-05-09 12:50 PM   #33 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 12:57 PM   #43 
                    - And black people were defined as 3/5 of a person. Why didn't they just redefine black people as  SemiCharmedQuark   Nov-05-09 01:00 PM   #46 
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                    - Not Supporting Marriage Equality Is Against DU Rules  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 01:01 PM   #47 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 01:02 PM   #50 
                       - The Right For Gays to MARRY Is the Policy, Specifically.  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 01:04 PM   #52 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 01:04 PM   #53 
                          - You Cannot Continue To Spread Your Freeper Talking Points, No.  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 01:05 PM   #55 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 01:08 PM   #57 
                                - You Are Not Discussing. You're Posting Bigot Talking Points.  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 01:12 PM   #62 
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                                      - It Is, And I Apologize.  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 06:05 PM   #110 
                                      - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 08:10 PM   #114 
                          - Silly you  NMMNG   Nov-05-09 05:56 PM   #109 
                             - I'm Sorry. I Forgot My Place.  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 09:29 PM   #117 
                    - That term is a religious definition of marriage(probably your own as well)  fascisthunter   Nov-05-09 01:04 PM   #54 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 01:07 PM   #56 
                          - If You Have To Change The Word, It's Not EQUAL  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 01:11 PM   #61 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 01:14 PM   #65 
                 - Wll then why don't churches use a word they already have: matrimony?  eShirl   Nov-05-09 01:10 PM   #59 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 01:15 PM   #66 
                    - But you keep saying it is about a word. Since they already have the word 'matrimony,' and civil law  eShirl   Nov-05-09 01:34 PM   #74 
                    - You seem to assume all churches agree with you  Bluenorthwest   Nov-05-09 01:39 PM   #76 
                       - Congratulations, Blue: You Made It Go Away.  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 01:52 PM   #82 
                    - THANK YOU for bringing this exact point up!  Veruca Salt   Nov-05-09 03:38 PM   #107 
     - There is something spiritual about joining two lives together.  underseasurveyor   Nov-05-09 01:09 PM   #58 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 01:11 PM   #60 
           - From what I've read your proposal is bigoted  underseasurveyor   Nov-05-09 01:55 PM   #84 
  - and what is wrong with a reply to that ignorant opinion  fascisthunter   Nov-05-09 01:00 PM   #45 
  - This isn't an opinion. These nutbags are denying rights to Americans.  Zoeisright   Nov-05-09 02:44 PM   #94 
  - Hold any opinion you want  NMMNG   Nov-05-09 06:27 PM   #111 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 08:12 PM   #115 
     - How, pray tell,  NMMNG   Nov-05-09 09:43 PM   #118 
  - Arbitrary supernatural beliefs are a foolish base for opinions. nt  ZombieHorde   Nov-05-09 06:46 PM   #112 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-05-09 08:13 PM   #116 
        - Not all religious beliefs are arbitrary, and I admit some disbeliefs may be arbitrary. nt  ZombieHorde   Nov-05-09 10:40 PM   #119 
  - federal law. marriage should be considered a civil right for all people  Mari333   Nov-05-09 12:03 PM   #6 
  - I like your way of thinking  theHandpuppet   Nov-05-09 12:10 PM   #10 
  - You Go, Girl!  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 12:21 PM   #14 
  - If only someone had the power to do that, to send in National Guard to secure civil rights.  eShirl   Nov-05-09 12:22 PM   #16 
  - it was done in the 60s during segregation  Mari333   Nov-05-09 12:29 PM   #20 
     - He Knows That, Mari. He Was Being Facetious; Playing on Obama's Inaction.  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 12:47 PM   #28 
        - I know, I was just re iterating  Mari333   Nov-05-09 01:29 PM   #72 
  - Get it said!  Bluenorthwest   Nov-05-09 01:40 PM   #77 
  - Some Presidents think that marriage is between a man and woman.  VMI Dem   Nov-05-09 01:39 PM   #75 
  - Save some outrage for the other forty-nine states...  Orsino   Nov-05-09 01:47 PM   #79 
  - I'm Not Pissed Off AT Maine, I'm Pissed Off ABOUT Maine.  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 01:50 PM   #80 
     - I must admit that the Maine vote has me particularly angry, too.  Orsino   Nov-05-09 05:42 PM   #108 
  - The lesson from Maine and Washington should be to focus on civil unions  depakid   Nov-05-09 01:50 PM   #81 
  - Sweet Jesus. SERENITY NOW!!!  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 01:53 PM   #83 
  - It's a matter of practicality and politics  depakid   Nov-05-09 02:12 PM   #88 
  - It's a Matter of Bigotry and Equality.  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 02:16 PM   #89 
     - The trouble with folks who are all pissed off is that they lose their perspective  depakid   Nov-05-09 02:22 PM   #91 
        - No Offense, But I Am Sick of Fucking Pragmatic Crap.  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 02:37 PM   #93 
           - I'll second that!!  theHandpuppet   Nov-05-09 02:47 PM   #95 
           - Considering the OP- that's a pretty strange vent  depakid   Nov-05-09 03:01 PM   #98 
              - Are You Crazy?  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 03:06 PM   #100 
                 - What you seem to be pointing at looks more like semantics  depakid   Nov-05-09 03:19 PM   #104 
  - Can I join you in that?  theHandpuppet   Nov-05-09 02:17 PM   #90 
     - Yep- some of your allies are ignorant for telling you not to blow it  depakid   Nov-05-09 02:31 PM   #92 
  - I wish everyone would learn to qualify their terms as "civil marriage" and "religious marriage".  Tesha   Nov-05-09 01:57 PM   #85 
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  - .  Starry Messenger   Nov-05-09 03:03 PM   #99 
  - Why is this so difficult for people to get?  Starry Messenger   Nov-05-09 03:01 PM   #97 
  - Not done being a prat, either, I guess.  spoony   Nov-05-09 03:08 PM   #101 
  - And Here We Were Getting Along So Well.  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 03:11 PM   #102 
     - So go vote in my new poll  spoony   Nov-05-09 03:13 PM   #103 
     - I'd Be Delighted To Vote In Your Poll  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 03:21 PM   #105 
        - Here  spoony   Nov-05-09 03:24 PM   #106 
           - Voted. See My Remarks In That Thread.  Toasterlad   Nov-05-09 07:22 PM   #113 
     - Actually the screaming makes it much easier.  Egnever   Nov-05-09 10:52 PM   #121 
  - Maybe this should have been a clue to you  Egnever   Nov-05-09 10:47 PM   #120 
  - And being nice has gotten us what, exactly?  Neecy   Nov-05-09 10:58 PM   #122 
  - Good luck with that  Egnever   Nov-05-09 11:00 PM   #123 
     - I'll send you a postcard  Neecy   Nov-05-09 11:00 PM   #124 
  - I Tend to Attack Those Who Attack Me. I'm Funny That Way.  Toasterlad   Nov-06-09 05:30 AM   #126 
  - "Please, sir, can I have some more?"  theHandpuppet   Nov-06-09 05:37 AM   #127 
  - What are our rights anyways?  kathrynjoy714   Nov-05-09 11:02 PM   #125 
 

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