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Thu Nov-05-09 02:22 PM
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| 91. The trouble with folks who are all pissed off is that they lose their perspective |
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and end up screwing themselves and others over. Hopefully, good sense will prevail in Oregon- more often than not it does.
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| -Not Quite Done Being Pissed Off About Maine |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 11:23 AM |
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Plus you should not have to suffer for other people's religious prejudices. |
Deep13 |
Nov-05-09 11:26 AM |
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The powerful majority will always vote against the rights |
Warpy |
Nov-05-09 11:39 AM |
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This is why referendums should not replace legislation |
SoCalDem |
Nov-06-09 05:58 AM |
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I just don't get it, Never have, never will. |
Ineeda |
Nov-05-09 11:48 AM |
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Nov-05-09 12:01 PM |
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Nov-05-09 12:03 PM |
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Separation of church and state - LEARN IT, LOVE IT, LIVE IT. |
bullwinkle428 |
Nov-05-09 12:07 PM |
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There's nothing wrong with it--as long as there's true separation |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-05-09 12:07 PM |
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A law is not a personal opinion |
eShirl |
Nov-05-09 12:16 PM |
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Marriage is not a religious institution. I got married at city hall in Chicago |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-05-09 12:18 PM |
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Nov-05-09 12:21 PM |
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They can believe whatever they want, but the LAW should not be based on their beliefs |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-05-09 12:27 PM |
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All of the laws |
kctim |
Nov-05-09 12:57 PM |
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that poster was talking about RELIGIOUS BELIEFS |
fascisthunter |
Nov-05-09 01:01 PM |
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Is there any LEGAL reason to deny marriage equality? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-05-09 01:02 PM |
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You answered a question with a question |
kctim |
Nov-05-09 02:02 PM |
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Again, slower this time. |
piratefish08 |
Nov-05-09 12:33 PM |
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I Don't Think He's Playing. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 12:53 PM |
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Because as the OP said... now pay attention here |
underseasurveyor |
Nov-05-09 12:21 PM |
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Nov-05-09 12:26 PM |
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People had deeply held opinions that African Americans weren't humans (in the strictest sense) |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-05-09 12:28 PM |
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Nov-05-09 12:31 PM |
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They can believe what they want. They can join up with a church that believes that shit. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-05-09 12:32 PM |
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Nov-05-09 12:49 PM |
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There Are Many States That Have OUTLAWED Civil Unions, Mr. I Have Not Heard. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 12:52 PM |
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Nov-05-09 12:32 PM |
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Marriage is the legal term. Let the churches invent some other word if they want to. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-05-09 12:33 PM |
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Nov-05-09 12:47 PM |
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Because marriage is the legal word. I got married in city hall and my marriage certificate says |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-05-09 12:49 PM |
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Nov-05-09 12:52 PM |
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No thanks. I don't think we should have to change legal words and definitions to suit bigots. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-05-09 12:53 PM |
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Nov-05-09 01:16 PM |
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If you want to change the word, you will have to convince the bigots to do it too. |
raw oysters |
Nov-05-09 02:52 PM |
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We Are Fighting Over Whether Or Not To Capitulate to Bigotry. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 12:51 PM |
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Nov-05-09 12:53 PM |
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If You Are Not Going To Listen To People, It Is Pointless For You to Be On the Internets. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 12:58 PM |
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Nov-05-09 01:12 PM |
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Do you suggest a law that prevents churchs from calling a |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-05-09 01:32 PM |
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Let them pick a new word or phrase. The legal one is marriage. |
piratefish08 |
Nov-05-09 12:53 PM |
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Nov-05-09 12:54 PM |
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So let the churches have 'religious unions' then |
underseasurveyor |
Nov-05-09 01:46 PM |
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The law alrady owns the word Marriage. |
ThomCat |
Nov-05-09 01:46 PM |
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It seems you are playing games with words to avoid saying |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-05-09 01:27 PM |
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And there's nothing stopping them from having the type of marriage they believe in, is there? |
eShirl |
Nov-05-09 12:35 PM |
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Example: The Catholic Church believes that marriages must be performed according to Catholic rules |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-05-09 12:38 PM |
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Nov-05-09 12:48 PM |
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No. The government should not change the legal term because churches want to be bigoted |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-05-09 12:50 PM |
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Nov-05-09 12:57 PM |
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And black people were defined as 3/5 of a person. Why didn't they just redefine black people as |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Nov-05-09 01:00 PM |
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Nov-05-09 01:03 PM |
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Not Supporting Marriage Equality Is Against DU Rules |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 01:01 PM |
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Nov-05-09 01:02 PM |
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The Right For Gays to MARRY Is the Policy, Specifically. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 01:04 PM |
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Nov-05-09 01:04 PM |
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You Cannot Continue To Spread Your Freeper Talking Points, No. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 01:05 PM |
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Nov-05-09 01:08 PM |
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You Are Not Discussing. You're Posting Bigot Talking Points. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 01:12 PM |
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Nov-05-09 01:20 PM |
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It Is, And I Apologize. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 06:05 PM |
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Nov-05-09 08:10 PM |
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Silly you |
NMMNG |
Nov-05-09 05:56 PM |
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I'm Sorry. I Forgot My Place. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 09:29 PM |
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That term is a religious definition of marriage(probably your own as well) |
fascisthunter |
Nov-05-09 01:04 PM |
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Nov-05-09 01:07 PM |
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If You Have To Change The Word, It's Not EQUAL |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 01:11 PM |
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Nov-05-09 01:14 PM |
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Wll then why don't churches use a word they already have: matrimony? |
eShirl |
Nov-05-09 01:10 PM |
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Nov-05-09 01:15 PM |
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But you keep saying it is about a word. Since they already have the word 'matrimony,' and civil law |
eShirl |
Nov-05-09 01:34 PM |
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You seem to assume all churches agree with you |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-05-09 01:39 PM |
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Congratulations, Blue: You Made It Go Away. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 01:52 PM |
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THANK YOU for bringing this exact point up! |
Veruca Salt |
Nov-05-09 03:38 PM |
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There is something spiritual about joining two lives together. |
underseasurveyor |
Nov-05-09 01:09 PM |
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Nov-05-09 01:11 PM |
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From what I've read your proposal is bigoted |
underseasurveyor |
Nov-05-09 01:55 PM |
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and what is wrong with a reply to that ignorant opinion |
fascisthunter |
Nov-05-09 01:00 PM |
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This isn't an opinion. These nutbags are denying rights to Americans. |
Zoeisright |
Nov-05-09 02:44 PM |
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Hold any opinion you want |
NMMNG |
Nov-05-09 06:27 PM |
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Nov-05-09 08:12 PM |
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How, pray tell, |
NMMNG |
Nov-05-09 09:43 PM |
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Arbitrary supernatural beliefs are a foolish base for opinions. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Nov-05-09 06:46 PM |
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Nov-05-09 08:13 PM |
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Not all religious beliefs are arbitrary, and I admit some disbeliefs may be arbitrary. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Nov-05-09 10:40 PM |
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federal law. marriage should be considered a civil right for all people |
Mari333 |
Nov-05-09 12:03 PM |
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I like your way of thinking |
theHandpuppet |
Nov-05-09 12:10 PM |
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You Go, Girl! |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 12:21 PM |
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If only someone had the power to do that, to send in National Guard to secure civil rights. |
eShirl |
Nov-05-09 12:22 PM |
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it was done in the 60s during segregation |
Mari333 |
Nov-05-09 12:29 PM |
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He Knows That, Mari. He Was Being Facetious; Playing on Obama's Inaction. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 12:47 PM |
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I know, I was just re iterating |
Mari333 |
Nov-05-09 01:29 PM |
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Get it said! |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-05-09 01:40 PM |
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Some Presidents think that marriage is between a man and woman. |
VMI Dem |
Nov-05-09 01:39 PM |
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Save some outrage for the other forty-nine states... |
Orsino |
Nov-05-09 01:47 PM |
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I'm Not Pissed Off AT Maine, I'm Pissed Off ABOUT Maine. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 01:50 PM |
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I must admit that the Maine vote has me particularly angry, too. |
Orsino |
Nov-05-09 05:42 PM |
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The lesson from Maine and Washington should be to focus on civil unions |
depakid |
Nov-05-09 01:50 PM |
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Sweet Jesus. SERENITY NOW!!! |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 01:53 PM |
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It's a matter of practicality and politics |
depakid |
Nov-05-09 02:12 PM |
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It's a Matter of Bigotry and Equality. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 02:16 PM |
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The trouble with folks who are all pissed off is that they lose their perspective |
depakid |
Nov-05-09 02:22 PM |
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No Offense, But I Am Sick of Fucking Pragmatic Crap. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 02:37 PM |
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I'll second that!! |
theHandpuppet |
Nov-05-09 02:47 PM |
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Considering the OP- that's a pretty strange vent |
depakid |
Nov-05-09 03:01 PM |
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Are You Crazy? |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 03:06 PM |
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What you seem to be pointing at looks more like semantics |
depakid |
Nov-05-09 03:19 PM |
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Can I join you in that? |
theHandpuppet |
Nov-05-09 02:17 PM |
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Yep- some of your allies are ignorant for telling you not to blow it |
depakid |
Nov-05-09 02:31 PM |
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I wish everyone would learn to qualify their terms as "civil marriage" and "religious marriage". |
Tesha |
Nov-05-09 01:57 PM |
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Starry Messenger |
Nov-05-09 03:03 PM |
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Why is this so difficult for people to get? |
Starry Messenger |
Nov-05-09 03:01 PM |
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Not done being a prat, either, I guess. |
spoony |
Nov-05-09 03:08 PM |
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And Here We Were Getting Along So Well. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 03:11 PM |
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So go vote in my new poll |
spoony |
Nov-05-09 03:13 PM |
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I'd Be Delighted To Vote In Your Poll |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 03:21 PM |
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Here |
spoony |
Nov-05-09 03:24 PM |
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Voted. See My Remarks In That Thread. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-05-09 07:22 PM |
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Actually the screaming makes it much easier. |
Egnever |
Nov-05-09 10:52 PM |
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Maybe this should have been a clue to you |
Egnever |
Nov-05-09 10:47 PM |
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And being nice has gotten us what, exactly? |
Neecy |
Nov-05-09 10:58 PM |
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Good luck with that |
Egnever |
Nov-05-09 11:00 PM |
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I'll send you a postcard |
Neecy |
Nov-05-09 11:00 PM |
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I Tend to Attack Those Who Attack Me. I'm Funny That Way. |
Toasterlad |
Nov-06-09 05:30 AM |
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"Please, sir, can I have some more?" |
theHandpuppet |
Nov-06-09 05:37 AM |
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What are our rights anyways? |
kathrynjoy714 |
Nov-05-09 11:02 PM |
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