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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 08:28 PM
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67. I will always remember that is how Jeb did it..made parents feel entitled
that public schools were not good enough for their kids. He held huge rallies in Tallahassee with minorities, and he kept saying they were entitled to a good education as well.

It was planned, it worked. FL gives huge numbers of vouchers to private schools, even though courts have rules against them.

Jeb gave a sense of entitlement....and that is how it is being presented right now.

Destroying public schools deliberately.
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  -Louisiana school superintendents are starting to fight back against forced charter schools madfloridian  Nov-05-09 12:09 AM   #0 
  - New Orleans has had a troubled history  waiting for hope   Nov-05-09 12:16 AM   #1 
  - Not only in Louisiana, but people are starting to  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-05-09 12:21 AM   #2 
  - I really hope so. It is time.  madfloridian   Nov-05-09 12:38 AM   #3 
  - Yes! they are a scam ~  goclark   Nov-05-09 10:02 PM   #70 
  - We have an interesting charter school here in Pinellas. Maverick  imdjh   Nov-05-09 12:39 AM   #4 
  - The school has been open for only a couple of months.  Luminous Animal   Nov-05-09 10:31 AM   #12 
  - What is the problem?  imdjh   Nov-05-09 10:53 AM   #15 
     - so the kid has been in the program 2 months, & you declare he's no longer  Hannah Bell   Nov-05-09 12:38 PM   #30 
        - That's 4 weeks longer than the last school and she isn't fighting it. Why do you care?  imdjh   Nov-05-09 12:56 PM   #33 
           - because the same program could be done in the public schools & i don't want ed privatized,  Hannah Bell   Nov-05-09 01:08 PM   #39 
              - But it wasn't. And that is how life works: Lead the way or be led by others.  imdjh   Nov-05-09 01:15 PM   #41 
                 - it *wasn't* because the ruling class wants charters. *you're* being led by others,  Hannah Bell   Nov-05-09 01:25 PM   #43 
                    - Ruling class? Wake up.  imdjh   Nov-05-09 08:26 PM   #65 
  - ...however, this is something that public education could do . . . take over . . .  defendandprotect   Nov-05-09 02:28 PM   #50 
  - People do want options, though.  imdjh   Nov-05-09 12:42 AM   #5 
  - yeah the option I want will never happen  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-05-09 12:47 AM   #6 
  - "Adopting internationally benchmarked academic standards."  Greyskye   Nov-05-09 03:16 AM   #7 
  - We already have a national curriculum identical to Europe- it's called IB  imdjh   Nov-05-09 10:13 AM   #11 
  - ib is very dated.  mopinko   Nov-05-09 10:57 AM   #17 
  - please give more detail - I have a kid in IB and she hates it  imdjh   Nov-05-09 10:59 AM   #18 
     - well, i don't know what to tell you exactly, except that i had a kid in it, and  mopinko   Nov-05-09 02:29 PM   #52 
        - I don't get it. I loved high school. But I didn't take honors courses.  imdjh   Nov-05-09 02:37 PM   #56 
  - So there is no more local control? WHO KNEW?  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-05-09 12:11 PM   #22 
  - what if the national curriculum sucks? We already have an apple out of undue influence. Texas.  imdjh   Nov-05-09 12:58 PM   #35 
     - In san diego it happens  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-05-09 01:55 PM   #44 
        - Americans don't want a federal school system.  imdjh   Nov-05-09 02:30 PM   #53 
           - And why the system is collapsing  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-05-09 03:09 PM   #59 
              - Even if we have a national curriculum, we'll have good schools and bad schools.  imdjh   Nov-05-09 08:23 PM   #64 
  - Also, a big fucking deal, is we DON'T have K-16 schooling or.............  pattmarty   Nov-05-09 12:27 PM   #28 
     - We always had good schools and bad schools. The deterioration has been to the good schools.  imdjh   Nov-05-09 01:01 PM   #37 
        - Jesusfuckingchrist!!!!!!! Get your fucking head out of your ass!!!  pattmarty   Nov-05-09 01:03 PM   #38 
           - Some people are indeed happy with a failing educational system  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-05-09 02:00 PM   #45 
  - Here, here!!!!!!!  pattmarty   Nov-05-09 12:18 PM   #26 
  - Have your options; go for it. But PAY for them. Do people get to have private pools paid by taxes?  WinkyDink   Nov-05-09 12:10 PM   #21 
  - Sure they do. They are taxpayers too.  imdjh   Nov-05-09 12:14 PM   #23 
  - Yes, under this admin they are getting private school paid by taxpayers.  madfloridian   Nov-05-09 12:34 PM   #29 
  - People WANT good motherfucking schools!!!!!!!!!! ALL this other..............  pattmarty   Nov-05-09 12:52 PM   #32 
  - Public education can provide options -- flexibility -- but not when under constant attack  defendandprotect   Nov-05-09 02:30 PM   #54 
     - Exactly. Under constant attack, hard for public education to fight back.  madfloridian   Nov-05-09 10:04 PM   #71 
        - Oooooh.... yes. Cute little code words like "Charter schools" keep public from  defendandprotect   Nov-07-09 12:01 AM   #75 
  - that's capitalism. ANYTHING for a dollar. But it will all come  Fire1   Nov-06-09 02:32 PM   #73 
  - I hope the pushback works.  Are_grits_groceries   Nov-05-09 03:46 AM   #8 
  - "he is moving like lightning to corral the education systems" with 4.3 billion  madfloridian   Nov-05-09 10:06 AM   #10 
     - And, that is just ONE more reason that I am disappointed in Obama.  pattmarty   Nov-05-09 12:56 PM   #34 
  - "the education bubble"  corpseratemedia   Nov-05-09 04:20 AM   #9 
  - K&R  Brickbat   Nov-05-09 10:35 AM   #13 
  - I hope that more people wake up to the scam that is being perpetrated on  BrklynLiberal   Nov-05-09 10:47 AM   #14 
  - What is your solution?  imdjh   Nov-05-09 10:56 AM   #16 
     - Oh? And exactly where is a parent who's poor or lower class going...........  pattmarty   Nov-05-09 01:01 PM   #36 
        - Which Europeans are you talking about?  imdjh   Nov-05-09 01:11 PM   #40 
           - much safer than here, statistically. and labeling it "danger money" =  Hannah Bell   Nov-05-09 02:20 PM   #47 
           - Yeah, high pay to retain teachers in hazard zones, aka hazard pay just like US cities.  imdjh   Nov-05-09 02:27 PM   #49 
              - look at the statistics. i lived in paris. you don't know what you're talking about.  Hannah Bell   Nov-05-09 02:35 PM   #55 
                 - I like pecan pie. Jesus had long hair. You're clearly the expert.  imdjh   Nov-05-09 02:47 PM   #58 
                    - the "bad" areas are outside the city of paris, in the suburbs. i'm expert enough to know that,  Hannah Bell   Nov-05-09 03:11 PM   #60 
                       - And you're clever enough not to nit pick when you know the point being made.  imdjh   Nov-05-09 08:27 PM   #66 
                          - you have no point.  Hannah Bell   Nov-05-09 11:34 PM   #72 
           - I'll give ya this, you're a great dreamer, but a whole lot of slow also.  pattmarty   Nov-05-09 06:04 PM   #62 
  - I wonder why more people don't care where their tax money goes?  madfloridian   Nov-05-09 11:22 AM   #19 
  - The same reason the elephants go East when the pond dries up.  imdjh   Nov-05-09 12:16 PM   #24 
  - Maybe you're fucking high??? Please I'm curious now, at least give a hint.  pattmarty   Nov-05-09 06:06 PM   #63 
     - Nope. It doesn't matter what I say to Madfloridian. She's deaf to reason.  imdjh   Nov-05-09 08:32 PM   #69 
  - In the case of New Orleans public schools people don't believe it could possibly get any worse  Hippo_Tron   Nov-05-09 12:22 PM   #27 
  - The drive to destroy public education continues apace.  WinkyDink   Nov-05-09 12:09 PM   #20 
  - Things change.  imdjh   Nov-05-09 12:16 PM   #25 
  - A reminder that really really big business is behind this privatization.  madfloridian   Nov-05-09 12:39 PM   #31 
  - The Catholic Church is behind Catholic Schools. And as much as I despise the Vatican, I would send..  imdjh   Nov-05-09 01:17 PM   #42 
  - Charter schools and vouchers are  Are_grits_groceries   Nov-05-09 02:15 PM   #46 
  - Jeb is proclaiming the greatness of Obama and Arne...and grinning.  madfloridian   Nov-05-09 02:29 PM   #51 
     - People are so stupid.  Are_grits_groceries   Nov-05-09 02:43 PM   #57 
  - k i c k - back later to read ....  defendandprotect   Nov-05-09 02:27 PM   #48 
  - Recommended for ongoing education for DU'ers.  bertman   Nov-05-09 05:14 PM   #61 
  - I will always remember that is how Jeb did it..made parents feel entitled  madfloridian   Nov-05-09 08:28 PM   #67 
  - forced charter schools=insurance madates  optimator   Nov-05-09 08:30 PM   #68 
  - It's on our watch....and few seem bothered.  madfloridian   Nov-06-09 11:25 PM   #74 
  - Obama "It's not just going through the usual political formulas" NO, he and  joeycola   Nov-07-09 04:59 AM   #76 
 

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