madfloridian
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Thu Nov-05-09 08:28 PM
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| 67. I will always remember that is how Jeb did it..made parents feel entitled |
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that public schools were not good enough for their kids. He held huge rallies in Tallahassee with minorities, and he kept saying they were entitled to a good education as well.
It was planned, it worked. FL gives huge numbers of vouchers to private schools, even though courts have rules against them.
Jeb gave a sense of entitlement....and that is how it is being presented right now.
Destroying public schools deliberately.
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| -Louisiana school superintendents are starting to fight back against forced charter schools |
madfloridian |
Nov-05-09 12:09 AM |
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New Orleans has had a troubled history |
waiting for hope |
Nov-05-09 12:16 AM |
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Not only in Louisiana, but people are starting to |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-05-09 12:21 AM |
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I really hope so. It is time. |
madfloridian |
Nov-05-09 12:38 AM |
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Yes! they are a scam ~ |
goclark |
Nov-05-09 10:02 PM |
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We have an interesting charter school here in Pinellas. Maverick |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 12:39 AM |
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The school has been open for only a couple of months. |
Luminous Animal |
Nov-05-09 10:31 AM |
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What is the problem? |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 10:53 AM |
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so the kid has been in the program 2 months, & you declare he's no longer |
Hannah Bell |
Nov-05-09 12:38 PM |
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That's 4 weeks longer than the last school and she isn't fighting it. Why do you care? |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 12:56 PM |
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because the same program could be done in the public schools & i don't want ed privatized, |
Hannah Bell |
Nov-05-09 01:08 PM |
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But it wasn't. And that is how life works: Lead the way or be led by others. |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 01:15 PM |
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it *wasn't* because the ruling class wants charters. *you're* being led by others, |
Hannah Bell |
Nov-05-09 01:25 PM |
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Ruling class? Wake up. |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 08:26 PM |
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...however, this is something that public education could do . . . take over . . . |
defendandprotect |
Nov-05-09 02:28 PM |
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People do want options, though. |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 12:42 AM |
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yeah the option I want will never happen |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-05-09 12:47 AM |
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"Adopting internationally benchmarked academic standards." |
Greyskye |
Nov-05-09 03:16 AM |
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We already have a national curriculum identical to Europe- it's called IB |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 10:13 AM |
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ib is very dated. |
mopinko |
Nov-05-09 10:57 AM |
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please give more detail - I have a kid in IB and she hates it |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 10:59 AM |
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well, i don't know what to tell you exactly, except that i had a kid in it, and |
mopinko |
Nov-05-09 02:29 PM |
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I don't get it. I loved high school. But I didn't take honors courses. |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 02:37 PM |
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So there is no more local control? WHO KNEW? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-05-09 12:11 PM |
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what if the national curriculum sucks? We already have an apple out of undue influence. Texas. |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 12:58 PM |
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In san diego it happens |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-05-09 01:55 PM |
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Americans don't want a federal school system. |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 02:30 PM |
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And why the system is collapsing |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-05-09 03:09 PM |
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Even if we have a national curriculum, we'll have good schools and bad schools. |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 08:23 PM |
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Also, a big fucking deal, is we DON'T have K-16 schooling or............. |
pattmarty |
Nov-05-09 12:27 PM |
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We always had good schools and bad schools. The deterioration has been to the good schools. |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 01:01 PM |
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Jesusfuckingchrist!!!!!!! Get your fucking head out of your ass!!! |
pattmarty |
Nov-05-09 01:03 PM |
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Some people are indeed happy with a failing educational system |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-05-09 02:00 PM |
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Here, here!!!!!!! |
pattmarty |
Nov-05-09 12:18 PM |
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Have your options; go for it. But PAY for them. Do people get to have private pools paid by taxes? |
WinkyDink |
Nov-05-09 12:10 PM |
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Sure they do. They are taxpayers too. |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 12:14 PM |
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Yes, under this admin they are getting private school paid by taxpayers. |
madfloridian |
Nov-05-09 12:34 PM |
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People WANT good motherfucking schools!!!!!!!!!! ALL this other.............. |
pattmarty |
Nov-05-09 12:52 PM |
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Public education can provide options -- flexibility -- but not when under constant attack |
defendandprotect |
Nov-05-09 02:30 PM |
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Exactly. Under constant attack, hard for public education to fight back. |
madfloridian |
Nov-05-09 10:04 PM |
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Oooooh.... yes. Cute little code words like "Charter schools" keep public from |
defendandprotect |
Nov-07-09 12:01 AM |
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that's capitalism. ANYTHING for a dollar. But it will all come |
Fire1 |
Nov-06-09 02:32 PM |
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I hope the pushback works. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Nov-05-09 03:46 AM |
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"he is moving like lightning to corral the education systems" with 4.3 billion |
madfloridian |
Nov-05-09 10:06 AM |
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And, that is just ONE more reason that I am disappointed in Obama. |
pattmarty |
Nov-05-09 12:56 PM |
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"the education bubble" |
corpseratemedia |
Nov-05-09 04:20 AM |
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K&R |
Brickbat |
Nov-05-09 10:35 AM |
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I hope that more people wake up to the scam that is being perpetrated on |
BrklynLiberal |
Nov-05-09 10:47 AM |
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What is your solution? |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 10:56 AM |
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Oh? And exactly where is a parent who's poor or lower class going........... |
pattmarty |
Nov-05-09 01:01 PM |
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Which Europeans are you talking about? |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 01:11 PM |
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much safer than here, statistically. and labeling it "danger money" = |
Hannah Bell |
Nov-05-09 02:20 PM |
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Yeah, high pay to retain teachers in hazard zones, aka hazard pay just like US cities. |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 02:27 PM |
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look at the statistics. i lived in paris. you don't know what you're talking about. |
Hannah Bell |
Nov-05-09 02:35 PM |
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I like pecan pie. Jesus had long hair. You're clearly the expert. |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 02:47 PM |
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the "bad" areas are outside the city of paris, in the suburbs. i'm expert enough to know that, |
Hannah Bell |
Nov-05-09 03:11 PM |
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And you're clever enough not to nit pick when you know the point being made. |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 08:27 PM |
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you have no point. |
Hannah Bell |
Nov-05-09 11:34 PM |
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I'll give ya this, you're a great dreamer, but a whole lot of slow also. |
pattmarty |
Nov-05-09 06:04 PM |
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I wonder why more people don't care where their tax money goes? |
madfloridian |
Nov-05-09 11:22 AM |
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The same reason the elephants go East when the pond dries up. |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 12:16 PM |
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Maybe you're fucking high??? Please I'm curious now, at least give a hint. |
pattmarty |
Nov-05-09 06:06 PM |
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Nope. It doesn't matter what I say to Madfloridian. She's deaf to reason. |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 08:32 PM |
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In the case of New Orleans public schools people don't believe it could possibly get any worse |
Hippo_Tron |
Nov-05-09 12:22 PM |
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The drive to destroy public education continues apace. |
WinkyDink |
Nov-05-09 12:09 PM |
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Things change. |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 12:16 PM |
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A reminder that really really big business is behind this privatization. |
madfloridian |
Nov-05-09 12:39 PM |
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The Catholic Church is behind Catholic Schools. And as much as I despise the Vatican, I would send.. |
imdjh |
Nov-05-09 01:17 PM |
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Charter schools and vouchers are |
Are_grits_groceries |
Nov-05-09 02:15 PM |
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Jeb is proclaiming the greatness of Obama and Arne...and grinning. |
madfloridian |
Nov-05-09 02:29 PM |
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People are so stupid. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Nov-05-09 02:43 PM |
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k i c k - back later to read .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-05-09 02:27 PM |
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Recommended for ongoing education for DU'ers. |
bertman |
Nov-05-09 05:14 PM |
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I will always remember that is how Jeb did it..made parents feel entitled |
madfloridian |
Nov-05-09 08:28 PM |
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forced charter schools=insurance madates |
optimator |
Nov-05-09 08:30 PM |
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It's on our watch....and few seem bothered. |
madfloridian |
Nov-06-09 11:25 PM |
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Obama "It's not just going through the usual political formulas" NO, he and |
joeycola |
Nov-07-09 04:59 AM |
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