Dogmudgeon
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Wed Nov-04-09 09:01 AM
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| 15. Ideological Purity - it worked so well for Doug Hoffman! |  |
 Should we keep bashing Democratic office holders? |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 08:30 AM |
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Only some really naive progressives don't get the fact that people other than themselves vote |
stray cat |
Nov-04-09 08:37 AM |
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i think it is a great idea |
bottomofthehill |
Nov-04-09 08:38 AM |
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It all depends on their ability to see the error of their ways |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 08:40 AM |
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Bingo! Full marks! (NT) |
Tesha |
Nov-04-09 08:42 AM |
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Why no. |
Le Taz Hot |
Nov-04-09 08:39 AM |
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Yes those guys with the R next to their name are much better |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 08:42 AM |
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Oh, please. |
Le Taz Hot |
Nov-04-09 08:49 AM |
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How many non Ds or Rs hold pulbic office???????? |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 08:56 AM |
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LOL! |
Le Taz Hot |
Nov-04-09 09:08 AM |
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So you claim, but real world has more impact that your fantasy wishes |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 10:25 AM |
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Critical thinking bad! Mindless worship good! |
PVnRT |
Nov-04-09 09:17 AM |
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Shame you are incapable of the sort of critical thinking |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 10:27 AM |
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So what is the real world? |
PVnRT |
Nov-04-09 11:00 AM |
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The real world is where the GOP is making a come back |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 11:24 AM |
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I didn't realize DU and blogs were all that influential |
PVnRT |
Nov-04-09 11:52 AM |
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To hold them accountable is one thing |
Arkana |
Nov-04-09 10:46 AM |
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Let The GOOP Think They're On The Comeback... |
KharmaTrain |
Nov-04-09 08:42 AM |
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They are doing more than THINKING |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 08:44 AM |
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Now The State's Financial Mess Is His Problem... |
KharmaTrain |
Nov-04-09 09:07 AM |
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It's par for the course today |
TommyO |
Nov-04-09 08:44 AM |
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Corzine was an arrogant ASS. I wouldn't bash him before he lost |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 08:47 AM |
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Yes, Yes , Yes - let them do whatever they want in office |
rurallib |
Nov-04-09 08:48 AM |
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Burning candidates with your fire only paves the way for Repuke control |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 08:56 AM |
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Sorry, but holding them accountable is not burning them |
rurallib |
Nov-04-09 09:10 AM |
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sorry but when there are people on the left bashing Dems as bad or worse than those on the right |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 10:26 AM |
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Ideological Purity - it worked so well for Doug Hoffman! |
Dogmudgeon |
Nov-04-09 09:01 AM |
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They say results speak louder than ivory tower ideas |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 09:02 AM |
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+100 |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Nov-04-09 09:05 AM |
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Here is the problem with the purity argument... |
Peacetrain |
Nov-04-09 09:13 AM |
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Very very very well said!!!!! |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 10:27 AM |
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My point is this. |
Enthusiast |
Nov-04-09 03:10 PM |
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We should tell the truth. |
mmonk |
Nov-04-09 09:17 AM |
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No. Liberals must SHUT THE FUCK UP and provide mindless support |
PVnRT |
Nov-04-09 09:19 AM |
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The GOP says keep doing what you are doing |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 10:28 AM |
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No shit....generalizing is so pub... |
opihimoimoi |
Nov-04-09 10:37 AM |
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They should thank you and your DLC buddies |
PVnRT |
Nov-04-09 11:01 AM |
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Still better than Repukes in office and in a majority |
treestar |
Nov-04-09 04:35 PM |
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God forbid that we should politicians accountable in a democracy. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-04-09 10:38 AM |
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Yeah getting Republicans elected is much better |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 10:41 AM |
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when Dens act like repukes, what's the difference? see my post below |
wordpix |
Nov-04-09 10:44 AM |
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HUGE difference |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 10:45 AM |
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not in my town and local politics - the Dems were just as bad on major town issues |
wordpix |
Nov-04-09 10:47 AM |
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At the local level there is little difference in political parties |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 10:48 AM |
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there IS a difference if the local DTC wants to make one |
wordpix |
Nov-04-09 10:52 AM |
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The voters in VA and NJ don't agree with you |
Sebastian Doyle |
Nov-04-09 02:05 PM |
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Corzine acted like a repuke?!?!??!!??! |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 02:26 PM |
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Corzine was DLC tool and a Goddamn Sucks CEO |
Sebastian Doyle |
Nov-04-09 02:31 PM |
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If that's what you think, you are truly clueless |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 02:32 PM |
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Not necessarily. |
Enthusiast |
Nov-04-09 03:21 PM |
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Politicians have to earn votes, not have them awarded to them because of party. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-04-09 10:56 AM |
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What's costing them elections is the lack of support from the left |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 11:23 AM |
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The support of the left is available. But, they have to earn it, not count on it. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-04-09 11:24 AM |
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It's at a price that costs them the votes from the rest |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 11:43 AM |
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If they don't give the voters a reason to vote for them they don't get the votes. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-04-09 11:47 AM |
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What happens is the left shoots everyone in the foot and we are stuck with Repuke leadership |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 11:49 AM |
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What happens if the politicians don't go after the left's vote? They lose them. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-04-09 11:52 AM |
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The right is smart enough to know that their people need to appeal to more than just themselves |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 12:14 PM |
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Yeah. And, that's what Thomas Jefferson talks about. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-04-09 12:17 PM |
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Only they don't pretend to appeal to us and they will just ram their agenda down |
Raineyb |
Nov-04-09 02:41 PM |
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Your accusations are pathetic. I guess when your views are not supported by facts or reality |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 02:54 PM |
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Your whoring is pathetic. What color is the sky in the make believe world |
Raineyb |
Nov-04-09 03:06 PM |
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It's your failure to support the Dems that made the Bush adminstration a reality |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 03:30 PM |
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I am under no obligation to support representatives who betray me |
Raineyb |
Nov-04-09 04:31 PM |
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Once again you act on the premise that politicians are ENTITLED to votes |
Raineyb |
Nov-04-09 01:56 PM |
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The premise is even a poor Democrat is superior to the best Republican |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 02:25 PM |
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Your inability to face reality is hurting Americans. |
Raineyb |
Nov-04-09 02:39 PM |
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Sorry if the inconvenient truths get in the way of your rants |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 02:52 PM |
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You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you. |
Raineyb |
Nov-04-09 03:04 PM |
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I know the world for what it is, not your fantasy version |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 03:31 PM |
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The one living in the fantasy world is you. |
Raineyb |
Nov-04-09 04:32 PM |
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Yeah, it's more fun holding them accountable |
treestar |
Nov-04-09 04:36 PM |
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+1 |
wordpix |
Nov-04-09 10:48 AM |
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no- we should vote them out in favor of more progressive candidates. |
dysfunctional press |
Nov-04-09 10:39 AM |
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Pretty sure Christie is not more progressive than Corzine |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 10:42 AM |
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If Corzine had been primaried there could have been a more progressive |
Raineyb |
Nov-04-09 01:58 PM |
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Corzine was a progressive, which is the part you don't get |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 02:27 PM |
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Progressives don't work for Goddamn Sucks. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Nov-04-09 02:32 PM |
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LOL! With logic like that, I can see why your positions are messed up |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 02:33 PM |
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I don't want any Democrats |
Enthusiast |
Nov-04-09 03:29 PM |
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then more people should have turned out to vote for corzine. |
dysfunctional press |
Nov-05-09 03:57 PM |
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when they act like Repukes, YES - case in point, my Connecticut hometown |
wordpix |
Nov-04-09 10:39 AM |
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The repugs armed their fanatics and they went to vote. |
RedCloud |
Nov-04-09 10:50 AM |
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What democrats? |
TokenQueer |
Nov-04-09 10:55 AM |
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Bash the ones who deserve to be bashed. |
BurtWorm |
Nov-04-09 11:02 AM |
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Yes it is. |
merh |
Nov-04-09 11:02 AM |
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Yes, if they suck and do not serve the people. (nt) |
freddie mertz |
Nov-04-09 11:03 AM |
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Got news for you republicans suck a whole lot worse |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 11:44 AM |
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I guess you prefer Democrats fillibustering health care reform, then |
PVnRT |
Nov-04-09 11:53 AM |
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So it would seem. |
freddie mertz |
Nov-04-09 12:13 PM |
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The Repukes would be passing bills denying our citizens rights and stealing from the poor |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 12:16 PM |
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And we'd have Democrats lying down to allow it to happen by not |
Raineyb |
Nov-04-09 02:44 PM |
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Democrats would have more back bone if you gave them some support |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 02:55 PM |
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Excuse you but people like us have been telling them that we'd have their |
Raineyb |
Nov-04-09 03:15 PM |
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what makes you so damn sure the DEMs are that much |
jonnyblitz |
Nov-04-09 04:40 PM |
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it's true, we can't distinguish repubs from dems when they act like corporate whores |
wordpix |
Nov-04-09 12:21 PM |
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We should continue to hold their feet to the fire, yes. |
StarfarerBill |
Nov-04-09 12:23 PM |
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A burnt candidate is an unsuccessful candidate |
NJmaverick |
Nov-04-09 01:22 PM |
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Not if they don't want to get burned again. |
StarfarerBill |
Nov-04-09 04:09 PM |
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Criticism is NOT bashing. |
Raineyb |
Nov-04-09 03:09 PM |
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Who needs Glenn Beck or Rush? |
NJmaverick |
Nov-05-09 08:30 AM |
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Unlike you I don't need any fucking body doing my thinking for me |
Raineyb |
Nov-05-09 01:59 PM |
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Nah, we should simply let them be as corrupt as they can and push failed rightwing policies |
depakid |
Nov-04-09 03:30 PM |
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What you fail to appreciate is the Republican do it far worse |
NJmaverick |
Nov-05-09 08:32 AM |
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That threat means dick when the Democrats behave like Republicans |
Raineyb |
Nov-05-09 01:48 PM |
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