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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 07:49 AM
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12. Oh, please.
As much as you would like to make it so, D & R are not the only choices. We can also fight to get better candidates and quit letting the Milquegoast Wing of the Democratic Party choose the candidates for us. Honestly, only Pod People vote for people because they have the correct letter next to their name. Personally, I prefer independent thought. :shrug:
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  -Should we keep bashing Democratic office holders? NJmaverick  Nov-04-09 07:30 AM   #0 
  - Only some really naive progressives don't get the fact that people other than themselves vote  stray cat   Nov-04-09 07:37 AM   #1 
  - i think it is a great idea  bottomofthehill   Nov-04-09 07:38 AM   #2 
  - It all depends on their ability to see the error of their ways  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 07:40 AM   #4 
     - Bingo! Full marks! (NT)  Tesha   Nov-04-09 07:42 AM   #7 
  - Why no.  Le Taz Hot   Nov-04-09 07:39 AM   #3 
  - Yes those guys with the R next to their name are much better  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 07:42 AM   #6 
  - Oh, please.  Le Taz Hot   Nov-04-09 07:49 AM   #12 
  - How many non Ds or Rs hold pulbic office????????  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 07:56 AM   #13 
     - LOL!  Le Taz Hot   Nov-04-09 08:08 AM   #19 
        - So you claim, but real world has more impact that your fantasy wishes  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 09:25 AM   #25 
  - Critical thinking bad! Mindless worship good!  PVnRT   Nov-04-09 08:17 AM   #23 
     - Shame you are incapable of the sort of critical thinking  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 09:27 AM   #27 
        - So what is the real world?  PVnRT   Nov-04-09 10:00 AM   #46 
           - The real world is where the GOP is making a come back  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 10:24 AM   #52 
              - I didn't realize DU and blogs were all that influential  PVnRT   Nov-04-09 10:52 AM   #58 
  - To hold them accountable is one thing  Arkana   Nov-04-09 09:46 AM   #38 
  - Let The GOOP Think They're On The Comeback...  KharmaTrain   Nov-04-09 07:42 AM   #5 
  - They are doing more than THINKING  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 07:44 AM   #8 
     - Now The State's Financial Mess Is His Problem...  KharmaTrain   Nov-04-09 08:07 AM   #18 
  - It's par for the course today  TommyO   Nov-04-09 07:44 AM   #9 
  - Corzine was an arrogant ASS. I wouldn't bash him before he lost  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 07:47 AM   #10 
  - Yes, Yes , Yes - let them do whatever they want in office  rurallib   Nov-04-09 07:48 AM   #11 
  - Burning candidates with your fire only paves the way for Repuke control  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 07:56 AM   #14 
     - Sorry, but holding them accountable is not burning them  rurallib   Nov-04-09 08:10 AM   #20 
        - sorry but when there are people on the left bashing Dems as bad or worse than those on the right  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 09:26 AM   #26 
  - Ideological Purity - it worked so well for Doug Hoffman!  Dogmudgeon   Nov-04-09 08:01 AM   #15 
  - They say results speak louder than ivory tower ideas  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 08:02 AM   #16 
     - +100  SIMPLYB1980   Nov-04-09 08:05 AM   #17 
  - Here is the problem with the purity argument...  Peacetrain   Nov-04-09 08:13 AM   #21 
  - Very very very well said!!!!!  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 09:27 AM   #28 
  - My point is this.  Enthusiast   Nov-04-09 02:10 PM   #87 
  - We should tell the truth.  mmonk   Nov-04-09 08:17 AM   #22 
  - No. Liberals must SHUT THE FUCK UP and provide mindless support  PVnRT   Nov-04-09 08:19 AM   #24 
  - The GOP says keep doing what you are doing  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 09:28 AM   #29 
  - No shit....generalizing is so pub...  opihimoimoi   Nov-04-09 09:37 AM   #30 
  - They should thank you and your DLC buddies  PVnRT   Nov-04-09 10:01 AM   #47 
  - Still better than Repukes in office and in a majority  treestar   Nov-04-09 03:35 PM   #97 
  - God forbid that we should politicians accountable in a democracy.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-04-09 09:38 AM   #31 
  - Yeah getting Republicans elected is much better  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 09:41 AM   #34 
  - when Dens act like repukes, what's the difference? see my post below  wordpix   Nov-04-09 09:44 AM   #36 
  - HUGE difference  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 09:45 AM   #37 
     - not in my town and local politics - the Dems were just as bad on major town issues  wordpix   Nov-04-09 09:47 AM   #39 
     - At the local level there is little difference in political parties  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 09:48 AM   #41 
        - there IS a difference if the local DTC wants to make one  wordpix   Nov-04-09 09:52 AM   #43 
     - The voters in VA and NJ don't agree with you  Sebastian Doyle   Nov-04-09 01:05 PM   #70 
     - Corzine acted like a repuke?!?!??!!??!  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 01:26 PM   #72 
        - Corzine was DLC tool and a Goddamn Sucks CEO  Sebastian Doyle   Nov-04-09 01:31 PM   #74 
           - If that's what you think, you are truly clueless  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 01:32 PM   #76 
     - Not necessarily.  Enthusiast   Nov-04-09 02:21 PM   #89 
  - Politicians have to earn votes, not have them awarded to them because of party.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-04-09 09:56 AM   #45 
  - What's costing them elections is the lack of support from the left  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 10:23 AM   #51 
     - The support of the left is available. But, they have to earn it, not count on it.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-04-09 10:24 AM   #53 
     - It's at a price that costs them the votes from the rest  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 10:43 AM   #54 
        - If they don't give the voters a reason to vote for them they don't get the votes.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-04-09 10:47 AM   #56 
           - What happens is the left shoots everyone in the foot and we are stuck with Repuke leadership  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 10:49 AM   #57 
              - What happens if the politicians don't go after the left's vote? They lose them.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-04-09 10:52 AM   #59 
                 - The right is smart enough to know that their people need to appeal to more than just themselves  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 11:14 AM   #62 
                    - Yeah. And, that's what Thomas Jefferson talks about.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-04-09 11:17 AM   #64 
                    - Only they don't pretend to appeal to us and they will just ram their agenda down  Raineyb   Nov-04-09 01:41 PM   #79 
                       - Your accusations are pathetic. I guess when your views are not supported by facts or reality  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 01:54 PM   #82 
                          - Your whoring is pathetic. What color is the sky in the make believe world  Raineyb   Nov-04-09 02:06 PM   #85 
                             - It's your failure to support the Dems that made the Bush adminstration a reality  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 02:30 PM   #91 
                                - I am under no obligation to support representatives who betray me  Raineyb   Nov-04-09 03:31 PM   #95 
     - Once again you act on the premise that politicians are ENTITLED to votes  Raineyb   Nov-04-09 12:56 PM   #68 
        - The premise is even a poor Democrat is superior to the best Republican  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 01:25 PM   #71 
           - Your inability to face reality is hurting Americans.  Raineyb   Nov-04-09 01:39 PM   #78 
              - Sorry if the inconvenient truths get in the way of your rants  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 01:52 PM   #81 
                 - You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you.  Raineyb   Nov-04-09 02:04 PM   #84 
                    - I know the world for what it is, not your fantasy version  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 02:31 PM   #93 
                       - The one living in the fantasy world is you.  Raineyb   Nov-04-09 03:32 PM   #96 
  - Yeah, it's more fun holding them accountable  treestar   Nov-04-09 03:36 PM   #98 
  - +1  wordpix   Nov-04-09 09:48 AM   #40 
  - no- we should vote them out in favor of more progressive candidates.  dysfunctional press   Nov-04-09 09:39 AM   #32 
  - Pretty sure Christie is not more progressive than Corzine  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 09:42 AM   #35 
     - If Corzine had been primaried there could have been a more progressive  Raineyb   Nov-04-09 12:58 PM   #69 
     - Corzine was a progressive, which is the part you don't get  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 01:27 PM   #73 
        - Progressives don't work for Goddamn Sucks.  Sebastian Doyle   Nov-04-09 01:32 PM   #75 
           - LOL! With logic like that, I can see why your positions are messed up  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 01:33 PM   #77 
              - I don't want any Democrats  Enthusiast   Nov-04-09 02:29 PM   #90 
     - then more people should have turned out to vote for corzine.  dysfunctional press   Nov-05-09 02:57 PM   #104 
  - when they act like Repukes, YES - case in point, my Connecticut hometown  wordpix   Nov-04-09 09:39 AM   #33 
  - The repugs armed their fanatics and they went to vote.  RedCloud   Nov-04-09 09:50 AM   #42 
  - What democrats?  TokenQueer   Nov-04-09 09:55 AM   #44 
  - Bash the ones who deserve to be bashed.  BurtWorm   Nov-04-09 10:02 AM   #48 
  - Yes it is.  merh   Nov-04-09 10:02 AM   #49 
  - Yes, if they suck and do not serve the people. (nt)  freddie mertz   Nov-04-09 10:03 AM   #50 
  - Got news for you republicans suck a whole lot worse  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 10:44 AM   #55 
     - I guess you prefer Democrats fillibustering health care reform, then  PVnRT   Nov-04-09 10:53 AM   #60 
        - So it would seem.  freddie mertz   Nov-04-09 11:13 AM   #61 
        - The Repukes would be passing bills denying our citizens rights and stealing from the poor  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 11:16 AM   #63 
        - And we'd have Democrats lying down to allow it to happen by not  Raineyb   Nov-04-09 01:44 PM   #80 
        - Democrats would have more back bone if you gave them some support  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 01:55 PM   #83 
           - Excuse you but people like us have been telling them that we'd have their  Raineyb   Nov-04-09 02:15 PM   #88 
        - what makes you so damn sure the DEMs are that much  jonnyblitz   Nov-04-09 03:40 PM   #99 
        - it's true, we can't distinguish repubs from dems when they act like corporate whores  wordpix   Nov-04-09 11:21 AM   #65 
  - We should continue to hold their feet to the fire, yes.  StarfarerBill   Nov-04-09 11:23 AM   #66 
  - A burnt candidate is an unsuccessful candidate  NJmaverick   Nov-04-09 12:22 PM   #67 
     - Not if they don't want to get burned again.  StarfarerBill   Nov-04-09 03:09 PM   #94 
  - Criticism is NOT bashing.  Raineyb   Nov-04-09 02:09 PM   #86 
  - Who needs Glenn Beck or Rush?  NJmaverick   Nov-05-09 07:30 AM   #100 
     - Unlike you I don't need any fucking body doing my thinking for me  Raineyb   Nov-05-09 12:59 PM   #103 
  - Nah, we should simply let them be as corrupt as they can and push failed rightwing policies  depakid   Nov-04-09 02:30 PM   #92 
     - What you fail to appreciate is the Republican do it far worse  NJmaverick   Nov-05-09 07:32 AM   #101 
        - That threat means dick when the Democrats behave like Republicans  Raineyb   Nov-05-09 12:48 PM   #102 

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