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3. Surrender to The PenguinUpdated at 8:34 AM
I was a developer of Microsoft applications (MSOffice) for several years.

Switching to the Linux/Gnu/BSD/Posix/Free/Libre/Open-Source world was like that scene in The Wizard of Oz, after the house lands, and when Dorothy opens the door.

The learning curve for mastering a new platform, an entire philosophy of development, the tool-chain system of working, and a couple of new languages is steep for a code monkey, far steeper than for casual users.

But I will NEVER go back.

--d!
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  Uh Oh... Windows 7 vulnerable to 8 out of 10 viruses. NYC_SKP  Nov-04-09 12:42 AM   #0 
   Pfft! Only 8 out of 10  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Nov-04-09 12:43 AM   #1 
   Don't Worry: "Microsoft releases patch for Oct's patch Tuesday"...  NYC_SKP   Nov-04-09 12:51 AM   #4 
   It does sound like an improvement over his demonstration of Win98  Art_from_Ark   Nov-06-09 12:20 AM   #114 
   Great hype by MS...  orwell   Nov-04-09 12:44 AM   #2 
   Surrender to The Penguin  Dogmudgeon   Nov-04-09 12:48 AM   #3 
   +1  Toucano   Nov-04-09 11:12 AM   #31 
   I bought a new computer last week and downloaded 64 bit ubuntu  Ex Lurker   Nov-04-09 03:52 PM   #63 
   Don't give up on Unbuntu  SecularMotion   Nov-05-09 08:08 AM   #100 
   THe power of Tux compels you?  comtec   Nov-06-09 02:11 AM   #130 
   Only idiots actually get viruses (virii?) in the first place.  anonymous171   Nov-04-09 12:51 AM   #5 
   Considering Outlook used to automatically install viruses...  greennina   Nov-04-09 01:45 AM   #14 
   Using Outlook after that sort of thing became widespread knowledge constitutes idiocy. (nt)  Posteritatis   Nov-04-09 01:50 AM   #17 
      Most companies around here fire you for refusing to use Outlook!  greennina   Nov-04-09 02:53 AM   #21 
         Then those companies have idiots commanding the IT folks  Posteritatis   Nov-04-09 02:56 AM   #22 
            Outlook was patched long time ago....  Statistical   Nov-04-09 08:35 AM   #26 
               Take your goddamned facts elsewhere sir/madam!  MellonCollie   Nov-04-09 11:09 AM   #30 
   +1  krawhitham   Nov-05-09 12:58 AM   #76 
   Bingo. I've had windows machines since the begining  ChimpersMcSmirkers   Nov-07-09 06:35 PM   #144 
   That is a link to a site that SELLS security software  JBoris   Nov-04-09 12:58 AM   #6 
   well, with or without antivirus and antispyware programs running?  Muttocracy   Nov-04-09 01:06 AM   #7 
   Windows 7 catches H1N1 virus!!!!!!! n/t  doc03   Nov-04-09 01:24 AM   #8 
   Pass some of that popcorn will ya?  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-04-09 01:26 AM   #9 
   Now, now! That Mac pic is going to make the MesSers make shit up about "cult members"  Touchdown   Nov-04-09 01:29 AM   #10 
   OMG, that never occurred to me.  NYC_SKP   Nov-04-09 01:42 AM   #12 
   MACS can run Windows 7 - Dual Boot Windows or Mac OS X  denem   Nov-05-09 07:39 AM   #99 
   The concept of "Mac Users" vs "PC Users" is the only thing supporting Apple  Indenturedebtor   Nov-06-09 12:09 AM   #112 
   A properly functioning Mac can only run decent programs when you have Windows running in bootcamp  Indenturedebtor   Nov-04-09 01:32 AM   #11 
   I keep my Macs and my PCs separate.  NYC_SKP   Nov-04-09 01:49 AM   #15 
   If you're willing to shop and carefully select a PC you get more for the money  Indenturedebtor   Nov-05-09 12:59 AM   #77 
   Its the same hardware  Egnever   Nov-05-09 01:16 AM   #80 
      Really? Show me this MAC -  Indenturedebtor   Nov-05-09 09:40 PM   #109 
         And you can slice about $800 from that by making a few changes.  EOTE   Nov-06-09 04:30 PM   #140 
   Oooooh. Really? You must be pretty smart! Can I touch you?  Touchdown   Nov-04-09 01:52 AM   #18 
   Upgraded with a soldering iron?  Indenturedebtor   Nov-05-09 12:53 AM   #74 
   You got no facts behind you.  Touchdown   Nov-05-09 01:40 AM   #84 
      Um can anyone set up a good raid array or graphics on a laptop?  Indenturedebtor   Nov-06-09 12:18 AM   #113 
         I'll grant that you know computers, but you don't know Macs.  Touchdown   Nov-06-09 01:40 AM   #122 
            So you know appliances. Good for you ;)  Indenturedebtor   Nov-06-09 01:52 AM   #125 
               eh' You're still a troll.  Touchdown   Nov-06-09 01:59 AM   #127 
                  Heheh you don't even know what kind of IT I work in  Indenturedebtor   Nov-06-09 02:07 AM   #128 
                     Your entire list of responses here is trolling for Mac hate.  Touchdown   Nov-06-09 03:12 PM   #135 
                        Um the ENTIRE thread was started to knock PCs  Indenturedebtor   Nov-07-09 03:14 AM   #141 
                           Oh' yes I do. Windows Borg exploit every and all problems with Macs, and the threads abound.  Touchdown   Nov-07-09 06:21 PM   #143 
   Soooooo, if you use your Mac so much, why does it have dust on it?  Jamastiene   Nov-05-09 01:49 AM   #88 
      Because I'm busy using it, not manhandling the box like Windows users do.  Touchdown   Nov-05-09 02:25 AM   #92 
         There you are,  Jamastiene   Nov-05-09 06:09 AM   #94 
            That was humor?  Touchdown   Nov-05-09 07:45 PM   #104 
   please explain "decent software"  rd_kent   Nov-04-09 11:15 AM   #34 
   Hey if all you want is an appliance that can surf the net  Indenturedebtor   Nov-05-09 12:56 AM   #75 
      Ok fanboy, if you want your PC for gaming  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-05-09 01:37 AM   #82 
      I work in IT - here are some thoughts  Indenturedebtor   Nov-05-09 09:16 PM   #105 
      More idiocy. Here's what's been done on "appliances that surf the net"  Touchdown   Nov-05-09 02:53 AM   #93 
      Teeheehee did you work on any of those movies?  Indenturedebtor   Nov-06-09 12:01 AM   #110 
         Not in Hollywood. Just know that certain SFX houses use a  Touchdown   Nov-06-09 01:46 AM   #123 
            Some good reasons and probably true  Indenturedebtor   Nov-06-09 01:55 AM   #126 
      If you're a graphic artist, creative director, or photographer  stanwyck   Nov-06-09 04:16 PM   #138 
   Fusion. This machine is running autodesk software  Pavulon   Nov-04-09 10:02 PM   #70 
      I've got nothing against Linux - if you can implement it to your needs GREAT  Indenturedebtor   Nov-06-09 12:06 AM   #111 
         It is a POSIX kernel. I use LINUX (rhel, unbutu) vm's and Wintel vm's  Pavulon   Nov-06-09 12:30 AM   #116 
         Meh I took a Toshiba Satellite through 9 countries where it was  Indenturedebtor   Nov-06-09 12:38 AM   #118 
            The IBM X/T class took a beating  Pavulon   Nov-06-09 12:47 AM   #120 
               Lol good idea with the rice... sucks it didn''t work!  Indenturedebtor   Nov-06-09 01:25 AM   #121 
         What is this deal about  TicketyBoo   Nov-06-09 02:28 AM   #131 
   Here,try this....  PJPhreak   Nov-04-09 01:42 AM   #13 
   XP, however, is vulnerable to 14 out of 10 viruses. It's an improvement. (nt)  Posteritatis   Nov-04-09 01:49 AM   #16 
   Your numbers are off.  Jamastiene   Nov-05-09 01:51 AM   #89 
   "and did not load any anti-virus software"  Statistical   Nov-04-09 02:36 AM   #19 
   My Mac has no AV. No viruses.....  rd_kent   Nov-04-09 11:17 AM   #36 
      You mac has less than 5% marketshare.  Statistical   Nov-04-09 11:24 AM   #38 
      For whatever reason, mine is "magically immune".  rd_kent   Nov-04-09 11:36 AM   #42 
      I don't have cancer therefore my genes must "magically be immune".  Statistical   Nov-04-09 11:56 AM   #46 
         Yeah, you do that. I dont care, just keep using a PC.  rd_kent   Nov-04-09 11:59 AM   #48 
      They're not "magically immune" - the UNIX OS was built with security in mind  TrogL   Nov-04-09 04:14 PM   #64 
      So windows NT -> XP -> Vista -> W7 is GUI running on DOS?  Statistical   Nov-04-09 04:19 PM   #65 
      Please do more research  MyNameGoesHere   Nov-05-09 07:10 AM   #97 
         Unix was originally written by people  hobbit709   Nov-05-09 07:22 AM   #98 
            It's the way my company works. We're the original 3 letter acronym.  Touchdown   Nov-06-09 01:49 AM   #124 
      So what? How does marketshare negate the fact that Macs get few, if any viruses?  Touchdown   Nov-05-09 01:52 AM   #90 
      My Mac has a free virus suite on it and I STILL run it once a month  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-05-09 01:39 AM   #83 
      How do you know you don't have any viruses if you don't have an AV to tell you?  Jamastiene   Nov-05-09 01:53 AM   #91 
   Gee ya think SOMEONE is trying to sell anti-virus software???  DainBramaged   Nov-04-09 02:51 AM   #20 
   Yeah, true, that was 8/10 viruses without loading any additional software...  NYC_SKP   Nov-04-09 08:30 AM   #25 
   I took the time to actually read the MSE license  Occulus   Nov-05-09 01:02 AM   #78 
   What a SHOCK!  HopeHoops   Nov-04-09 08:25 AM   #23 
   Antivirus company makes claim for the need for antivirus software - news at 11.  City of Mills   Nov-04-09 08:29 AM   #24 
   Or, you could not be a moron and get free anti-virus software  PVnRT   Nov-04-09 09:14 AM   #27 
   Windows = Republicon software from a Republicon corporation  SpiralHawk   Nov-04-09 09:17 AM   #28 
   Agreed.  Toucano   Nov-04-09 11:14 AM   #33 
      Yes, I'm sure everything you buy and use  PVnRT   Nov-04-09 11:18 AM   #37 
         If changing the topic can assuage your guilt, go right ahead.  Toucano   Nov-04-09 11:36 AM   #41 
         There is no guilt to assuage  PVnRT   Nov-04-09 11:49 AM   #45 
            Facts pinch a little sometimes.  Toucano   Nov-04-09 12:32 PM   #57 
         You betcha  SpiralHawk   Nov-04-09 11:39 AM   #43 
            What a shithead lol  Mudoria   Nov-04-09 12:19 PM   #55 
   Shitty scaremongering article; UAC worked exactly as intended  MellonCollie   Nov-04-09 10:54 AM   #29 
   BWAHA aha haha HAH AHA HA aha hahah HA HA AH AHA HA  cliffordu   Nov-04-09 11:13 AM   #32 
   So you really believe everything you read???  DainBramaged   Nov-04-09 11:58 AM   #47 
   I have been accused in this thread of posting spam. Reply #35  NYC_SKP   Nov-04-09 09:47 PM   #67 
   How is this not spam? nt  Dreamer Tatum   Nov-04-09 11:15 AM   #35 
   Oooh, Busted!  NYC_SKP   Nov-04-09 09:48 PM   #68 
   I bet the 2 viruses that cannot infect Windows 7  Nye Bevan   Nov-04-09 11:25 AM   #39 
   Over the last week, I couldn't help but wonder if MS is sabotaging my  Ilsa   Nov-04-09 11:32 AM   #40 
   Install MSE and save yourself  DainBramaged   Nov-04-09 11:59 AM   #49 
   Wow, 8 out of 10 virii can infect Windows if the user allows it to.  EOTE   Nov-04-09 11:48 AM   #44 
   I am not a Windows user and I sure would never defend Microsoft.  Toucano   Nov-04-09 12:50 PM   #59 
   I know one thing, I'm sick and tired of cleaning viruses from people's computers.  nc4bo   Nov-04-09 10:09 PM   #72 
   No anti-virus software installed??!!! Whoever runs a computer without such software ....  Better Believe It   Nov-04-09 12:00 PM   #50 
   Maybe not most but some do and that includes people in this thread.  Statistical   Nov-04-09 12:03 PM   #52 
   I use a Mac  TicketyBoo   Nov-06-09 02:46 AM   #132 
   It's amazing to me that people are so used to needing...  TCJ70   Nov-04-09 12:14 PM   #54 
      Well Microsoft has been sued a couple times for bundling software with windows.  Statistical   Nov-04-09 12:25 PM   #56 
   Microsoft provides free antivirus for XP, Vista & Windows 7  Statistical   Nov-04-09 12:01 PM   #51 
   Just for you.  Feron   Nov-04-09 12:11 PM   #53 
   Perfect!  DavidDvorkin   Nov-04-09 12:33 PM   #58 
   Is Apple virus free without anyone using 3rd party anti-virus software?  Better Believe It   Nov-04-09 01:37 PM   #60 
      I have been virus free for eight + years.  MilesColtrane   Nov-04-09 02:37 PM   #61 
      I don't plan to find out  DavidDvorkin   Nov-04-09 03:44 PM   #62 
      Yes... I got a free one as a bad habit acquired from my WIn days  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-05-09 01:43 AM   #85 
      Yes, it's true.  TicketyBoo   Nov-06-09 02:48 AM   #133 
   Dude that is the best forkin clip EVER!  Indenturedebtor   Nov-06-09 12:29 AM   #115 
   This is BS.  Odin2005   Nov-04-09 04:32 PM   #66 
   Probably. I wouldn't know. My last seven computer purchases were Macs, and my PC runs XP.  NYC_SKP   Nov-04-09 09:58 PM   #69 
      You wouldn't if I built you a computer n/t  Indenturedebtor   Nov-06-09 12:41 AM   #119 
   Rut-roh Shaggy, Service Packs 1 thru 15 coming up shortly. nt  nc4bo   Nov-04-09 10:02 PM   #71 
   You do understand that more patches more often equals a better OS in the end, right?  Occulus   Nov-05-09 01:29 AM   #81 
      No, I didn't know that.  nc4bo   Nov-05-09 08:26 AM   #101 
   really?  upi402   Nov-04-09 10:11 PM   #73 
   Well, this is really a good thing.  ohheckyeah   Nov-05-09 01:12 AM   #79 
   Wonder if that was true for  LatteLibertine   Nov-05-09 01:45 AM   #86 
   Enlighten me...  MellonCollie   Nov-05-09 06:44 AM   #95 
      Two possibilities. The one in OS X or the one in his brain.  Statistical   Nov-05-09 09:23 PM   #107 
   Do you realize what kind of MAJOR PROGRESS that is for Windows?  Jamastiene   Nov-05-09 01:45 AM   #87 
   considering that  specialed   Nov-05-09 06:58 AM   #96 
   Coke v Pepsi, 21st century style. I did love the cola wars...  LanternWaste   Nov-05-09 08:28 AM   #102 
   Damn anti-vaccers!  rucky   Nov-05-09 08:28 AM   #103 
   "Swiss Cheese" (aka Windows) always has security holes.  roamer65   Nov-05-09 09:21 PM   #106 
   BREAKING: A machine without anti-virus got infected when viruses were loaded on it.  Renew Deal   Nov-05-09 09:31 PM   #108 
   Seriously... "Man who doesn't believe in condoms and likes prostitutes acquires disease!"  Indenturedebtor   Nov-06-09 12:33 AM   #117 
   64 bit security!  OldEuropean   Nov-06-09 02:07 AM   #129 
   What I always find hilarious  TicketyBoo   Nov-06-09 02:59 AM   #134 
   You think Macs don't have viruses? Please.  EOTE   Nov-06-09 03:53 PM   #137 
      Did you actually read those stories?  TicketyBoo   Nov-07-09 04:31 AM   #142 
   That was very naughty of you. LOL  Javaman   Nov-06-09 03:41 PM   #136 
   WOW this has turned into a feeding freenzy, the Crips (WINDOZE) against the Bloods (LINUX)  DainBramaged   Nov-06-09 04:20 PM   #139 
   Another fail thread dedicated to Apple users trying to make their hipster selves look superior.  ChimpersMcSmirkers   Nov-07-09 06:37 PM   #145 
 

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