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Reply #107: We've actually done that - where we sat down, ordered, the kids started to explode, [View All]

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107. We've actually done that - where we sat down, ordered, the kids started to explode,
so we figured up how much it'd be and put the money and a tip on the table and got up and left (letting one of the staffers closest to the door know that we were taking the kids outta there). Immediately. Smack dab in the middle of one of their good loud screams. BOOM! OUTTA THERE. And That's That. Neither of us could stand the idea of letting our noisy little temporary tantrum-throwers disrupt the entire restaurant. You don't have to say anything. You certainly don't have to threaten anything. Don't even have to give them a dirty look. You just suddenly up and GO. Instant response. Instant consequences. Boom! You're GONE. And suddenly they find themselves in the car going home and fun's over.

You do that once or twice (or even three times) and eventually the kids do seem to get the message (ours did) - that Your Behavior Will NOT Be Tolerated In Public!!! You want to go out with your big boy pants and big girl purse and have a Big People's dinner with Mommy and Daddy in a Big People's Restaurant? Then ACT ACCORDINGLY!!!!! Or else you get lurched outta there before you even get the free bread basket and taken straight home with NO big fancy dinner and and it's leftovers in the kitchen for everybody. We were very fortunate in that our kids got this message very quickly. I think we only had to do that once. I think it's the abruptness, the shock value, the sudden and very obvious course change - AWAY from the fun and the excitement of going out to that big fancy nice new place they don't usually get taken to.

It also taught them pretty darn early about how you behave in the "Big People's Places." As in - you behave WELL. And QUIETLY! And with MANNERS. Or you DON'T get to come.

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  A father of 4 weighs in on the Southwest situation Hello_Kitty  Nov-01-09 11:20 AM   #0 
   I agree completely n/t  my2sense   Nov-01-09 11:24 AM   #1 
   it really boggles my mind how undisciplined so many kids are in public...  dysfunctional press   Nov-01-09 11:30 AM   #2 
   And what really boggles my mind are how insensitive parents of loud, unmannered, unruly children are  Raster   Nov-01-09 11:44 AM   #4 
      +1  snagglepuss   Nov-01-09 12:34 PM   #39 
      I was a hell child growing up; yet no one was inconvenienced by my ill behavior  DeschutesRiver   Nov-01-09 12:37 PM   #40 
      What you talk about is what's not done these days  Raineyb   Nov-01-09 01:29 PM   #58 
         When my kids were very small, I started reading Dr. Spock.  janx   Nov-01-09 02:02 PM   #63 
         Holy Sha-moly! Reason and logic!  Raster   Nov-01-09 02:15 PM   #66 
            Spock was great. At the time I read his book, Baby and Child Care,  janx   Nov-01-09 02:53 PM   #79 
         We've actually done that - where we sat down, ordered, the kids started to explode,  calimary   Nov-01-09 03:53 PM   #107 
      well, I had kids  JitterbugPerfume   Nov-01-09 02:35 PM   #77 
         I don't either.  janx   Nov-01-09 03:03 PM   #84 
   I've often wondered what the hell is wrong with so many parents today.  AndyA   Nov-01-09 11:38 AM   #3 
   A couple of years ago I related a restaurant horror story here on DU  LibDemAlways   Nov-01-09 11:50 AM   #7 
   This thread will bring some similar responses, I guarantee.  MineralMan   Nov-01-09 11:53 AM   #9 
   The Cult of Parenthood happened  Hello_Kitty   Nov-01-09 12:02 PM   #12 
   It's not just parents. Our society has become one in which  MineralMan   Nov-01-09 12:05 PM   #13 
   Well said nt  snagglepuss   Nov-01-09 12:37 PM   #41 
   cuz they don't want to hurt the little monster's feelings  bikingaz   Nov-01-09 03:33 PM   #98 
   As a parent I am in total agreement with this guy.  LibDemAlways   Nov-01-09 11:45 AM   #5 
   "Mind your own business." And that parent's attitude is why the child was a train wreck.  Raster   Nov-01-09 02:25 PM   #72 
   Written by someone who never scraped together $300  sandnsea   Nov-01-09 11:50 AM   #6 
   "high fives sandnsea"  Number23   Nov-01-09 12:05 PM   #14 
   Ah, the predictable trotting out of the poor parent taking the child to a funeral  Hello_Kitty   Nov-01-09 12:09 PM   #17 
   Well, I know a way to help, and wrote about it yesterday.  MineralMan   Nov-01-09 12:18 PM   #28 
   Yep. They want "help" but they want it on their terms. eom  Hello_Kitty   Nov-01-09 12:26 PM   #34 
      Oh, well...  MineralMan   Nov-01-09 12:29 PM   #37 
   .  name not needed   Nov-01-09 02:08 PM   #65 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-01-09 03:10 PM   #86 
   That's all you can say, eh? "You really hate breeders and children..."  Raster   Nov-01-09 03:22 PM   #92 
      No more than kid haters in these threads have done  MattBaggins   Nov-01-09 03:25 PM   #95 
         It's not hatred. It's tired of bending over back wards to accommodate ill-mannered children.  Raster   Nov-01-09 03:29 PM   #96 
            No there are two sides to every coin  MattBaggins   Nov-01-09 03:34 PM   #100 
               No one on this thread--NO ONE--has said ..."they hate breeders and children..."  Raster   Nov-01-09 03:50 PM   #105 
                  There have been a few threads about this subject  MattBaggins   Nov-01-09 03:59 PM   #109 
                     Like it or not, you're packing the "venom" today.  Raster   Nov-01-09 04:14 PM   #118 
                        Obviously that is all common sense  MattBaggins   Nov-01-09 04:24 PM   #120 
   co-workers who take on extra assignments, miss days off  WolverineDG   Nov-01-09 04:01 PM   #110 
   I tried to help a mother once with a child, and I was told it was none of my business.  AndyA   Nov-01-09 12:09 PM   #18 
   Great rebuttal. nt  snagglepuss   Nov-01-09 12:42 PM   #44 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-01-09 03:08 PM   #85 
      My my. Somebody needs a nap.  Sub Atomic   Nov-01-09 03:24 PM   #94 
         Ah another one of the kid haters raises tehir ugly heads  MattBaggins   Nov-01-09 03:30 PM   #97 
   Then why did you even bother to respond? You get to speak your piece, but no one else?  Raster   Nov-01-09 12:09 PM   #19 
   Yeah, that's how I grew up, too.  MineralMan   Nov-01-09 12:27 PM   #35 
      "It's not a miracle. It's parenting. No truer words.....Unfortunately, this day and age  Raster   Nov-01-09 12:30 PM   #38 
         I swear to God, the majority of teenage and young adult males I know are on drugs  Hello_Kitty   Nov-01-09 12:54 PM   #49 
   +1  soleiri   Nov-01-09 12:18 PM   #27 
   I agree.  Luminous Animal   Nov-01-09 01:03 PM   #50 
   That pretty much refutes what sandnsea said  Hello_Kitty   Nov-01-09 01:27 PM   #57 
      Ooops. I meant to point out that NOT helping out is the standard.  Luminous Animal   Nov-01-09 04:12 PM   #116 
   Hmm; doesn't pass the smell test. It may indeed 'take a village' to raise a child properly,  Aristus   Nov-01-09 01:12 PM   #53 
   This "mother" was doing nothing to control her child  WolverineDG   Nov-01-09 02:05 PM   #64 
   oh bullshit.. being poor is NOT an excuse to not teach children how to behave  nini   Nov-01-09 02:33 PM   #76 
   Have you tried  TicketyBoo   Nov-01-09 03:53 PM   #106 
      That's bossing and interfering, not helping n/t  sandnsea   Nov-01-09 04:12 PM   #115 
   I was in the supermarket a couple of weeks ago. A boy about  MineralMan   Nov-01-09 11:50 AM   #8 
   It's too bad you couldn't have backhanded the bastard across the aisle...  Raster   Nov-01-09 12:16 PM   #26 
   Not my style. But I understand what you're saying.  MineralMan   Nov-01-09 12:19 PM   #29 
      It's not my style either. However, I do harbor fantasies.  Raster   Nov-01-09 12:20 PM   #30 
   omigod, i got yelled at for the same reason. mom on cellohone ignoring kid ramming the cart into me  bettyellen   Nov-01-09 02:37 PM   #78 
      Isn't that the worst? You get hurt by some brat, and the mom  MineralMan   Nov-01-09 03:01 PM   #83 
      a lot of it is the parent spends all the time on the cell phone- the kid and you are disrupting them  bettyellen   Nov-01-09 03:14 PM   #88 
         I have a strategy for annoying cell phone users,  MineralMan   Nov-01-09 03:34 PM   #99 
      who's parenting the parents??? nt  WolverineDG   Nov-01-09 03:53 PM   #108 
   Managing average toddler behavior can be a learned skill set.  MissMarple   Nov-01-09 11:56 AM   #10 
   My husband's siblings...  a la izquierda   Nov-01-09 12:08 PM   #16 
   It can be  TicketyBoo   Nov-01-09 04:03 PM   #112 
   When you are the parent of an obstreperous youngster.. the constant  annabanana   Nov-01-09 11:59 AM   #11 
   I can understand that  Hello_Kitty   Nov-01-09 12:16 PM   #25 
      I usually apologized and attempted to rein in the little bugger.. .  annabanana   Nov-01-09 02:54 PM   #80 
   Kitty, your link's not working!  Number23   Nov-01-09 12:08 PM   #15 
   I just tried it and it works for me. eom  Hello_Kitty   Nov-01-09 12:13 PM   #22 
      Saw your link downthread and got it to work. BEST COMMENT on this topic  Number23   Nov-01-09 12:38 PM   #42 
         Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-01-09 12:47 PM   #47 
   If she never even thought about it, then I'd say that she's pretty insensitive  petronius   Nov-01-09 12:10 PM   #20 
   In Southwest's statement they said the flight crew gave the child coloring books and juice.  tammywammy   Nov-01-09 12:21 PM   #32 
      In that case, I guess mom was pretty obtuse. Drowning out the safety  petronius   Nov-01-09 01:35 PM   #59 
   edit,,,link working now...thanks....  dixiegrrrrl   Nov-01-09 12:13 PM   #21 
   Still works for me  Hello_Kitty   Nov-01-09 12:14 PM   #24 
   Works for me, too.  MineralMan   Nov-01-09 12:21 PM   #31 
   Let's not forget the ubiquitous screaming babies and children in movies  lunatica   Nov-01-09 12:14 PM   #23 
   I am all for introducing young children to public places in order to teach them how to behave.  elocs   Nov-01-09 12:25 PM   #33 
   A study in contrasts:  Raster   Nov-01-09 12:28 PM   #36 
   Yup. I've seen the same contrast.  MineralMan   Nov-01-09 12:45 PM   #45 
   Pretty much my experiece with children.  kiva   Nov-01-09 12:51 PM   #48 
      I must say I agree. I only had one bad experience as a new  Fire1   Nov-01-09 02:00 PM   #62 
         "...fortunately, it was at the zoo."  janx   Nov-01-09 03:18 PM   #89 
            Your point? n/t  Fire1   Nov-01-09 03:21 PM   #91 
               My point is that I understand you completely!  janx   Nov-01-09 03:47 PM   #104 
   Wow. I am so amazed by how different the responses on DU are to this situation.  Writer   Nov-01-09 12:40 PM   #43 
   Yeah, well, allowing the little unruly kids their "space in the world" only breeds  Raster   Nov-01-09 12:47 PM   #46 
   LOL. Sorry.  Robb   Nov-01-09 01:05 PM   #51 
   Narp, I wasn't actually. I joined in 2005.  Writer   Nov-01-09 01:08 PM   #52 
      Let's just say other people's kids are a rough topic.  Robb   Nov-01-09 01:13 PM   #54 
   Kids should be allowed to run up and down plane aisles screaming while in flight?  stray cat   Nov-01-09 02:24 PM   #70 
   I've never flown with my autistic daughter because I don't know how she will react  K8-EEE   Nov-01-09 01:14 PM   #55 
   I work for the airlines. This is what I said earlier:  pink-o   Nov-01-09 01:17 PM   #56 
   The kid might well have settled down 5 minutes after takeoff..  lostnfound   Nov-01-09 01:40 PM   #60 
   The kid *might* have settled down five minutes after takeoff, OR the kid *might*  Raster   Nov-01-09 01:51 PM   #61 
   A drunk adult acting up is usually escorted off before take off  stray cat   Nov-01-09 02:25 PM   #71 
   Which is why, barring emergencies, children that young don't belong on planes.  Hello_Kitty   Nov-01-09 02:26 PM   #73 
      Or take the redeye so the child can sleep comfortably. More space, less expensive.  Raster   Nov-01-09 02:29 PM   #74 
      Ahhh Haaa --- limosine liberal aren't you?  MattBaggins   Nov-01-09 03:21 PM   #90 
      It doesn't revolve around your selfish desire to schlep your toddler around on planes  Hello_Kitty   Nov-01-09 04:10 PM   #114 
      You're right, it really doesn't matter if the kid's aging grandparents die before they see the baby.  lostnfound   Nov-01-09 03:37 PM   #102 
         But your child might breath near her  MattBaggins   Nov-01-09 03:40 PM   #103 
         Honey, you're the one with the delicate sensibilities.  Hello_Kitty   Nov-01-09 04:06 PM   #113 
            No some people actually hate children  MattBaggins   Nov-01-09 04:16 PM   #119 
               Some people do hate children. Unfortunately many of them become parents.  Hello_Kitty   Nov-01-09 04:29 PM   #122 
         I'd consider that an emergency.  Hello_Kitty   Nov-01-09 04:02 PM   #111 
   I flew with my 2 and 3 year old to Florida a few years ago.  Jennicut   Nov-01-09 02:19 PM   #67 
   They probably had a blast!  janx   Nov-01-09 02:23 PM   #69 
      They still talk about it two years later. They liked tiding on the buses  Jennicut   Nov-01-09 02:33 PM   #75 
         I cannot imagine what it must be like to take small children  janx   Nov-01-09 02:57 PM   #82 
            Yes. Plus, we had strollers. It was a hassle.  Jennicut   Nov-01-09 03:35 PM   #101 
   Meh...all I see is lack of compassion on all sides.  krabigirl   Nov-01-09 02:22 PM   #68 
   I see a strawman  Hello_Kitty   Nov-01-09 02:57 PM   #81 
      Well, it all seems to come down to whether or not you  MineralMan   Nov-01-09 03:24 PM   #93 
         Boy aren't you selfish  MattBaggins   Nov-01-09 04:13 PM   #117 
            Do you resemble the parody of the response that you've put out there?  Raineyb   Nov-01-09 04:24 PM   #121 
   My husband was in the army and he went to germany before me and our 6 week old baby.  southernyankeebelle   Nov-01-09 03:11 PM   #87 
   We're locking this.  pintoDU Moderator   Nov-01-09 04:31 PM   #123 
 

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