calimary
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Sun Nov-01-09 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #58 |
| 107. We've actually done that - where we sat down, ordered, the kids started to explode, |
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so we figured up how much it'd be and put the money and a tip on the table and got up and left (letting one of the staffers closest to the door know that we were taking the kids outta there). Immediately. Smack dab in the middle of one of their good loud screams. BOOM! OUTTA THERE. And That's That. Neither of us could stand the idea of letting our noisy little temporary tantrum-throwers disrupt the entire restaurant. You don't have to say anything. You certainly don't have to threaten anything. Don't even have to give them a dirty look. You just suddenly up and GO. Instant response. Instant consequences. Boom! You're GONE. And suddenly they find themselves in the car going home and fun's over.
You do that once or twice (or even three times) and eventually the kids do seem to get the message (ours did) - that Your Behavior Will NOT Be Tolerated In Public!!! You want to go out with your big boy pants and big girl purse and have a Big People's dinner with Mommy and Daddy in a Big People's Restaurant? Then ACT ACCORDINGLY!!!!! Or else you get lurched outta there before you even get the free bread basket and taken straight home with NO big fancy dinner and and it's leftovers in the kitchen for everybody. We were very fortunate in that our kids got this message very quickly. I think we only had to do that once. I think it's the abruptness, the shock value, the sudden and very obvious course change - AWAY from the fun and the excitement of going out to that big fancy nice new place they don't usually get taken to.
It also taught them pretty darn early about how you behave in the "Big People's Places." As in - you behave WELL. And QUIETLY! And with MANNERS. Or you DON'T get to come.
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A father of 4 weighs in on the Southwest situation |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 11:20 AM |
#0 |

I agree completely n/t |
my2sense |
Nov-01-09 11:24 AM |
#1 |

it really boggles my mind how undisciplined so many kids are in public... |
dysfunctional press |
Nov-01-09 11:30 AM |
#2 |
 
And what really boggles my mind are how insensitive parents of loud, unmannered, unruly children are |
Raster |
Nov-01-09 11:44 AM |
#4 |

+1 |
snagglepuss |
Nov-01-09 12:34 PM |
#39 |

I was a hell child growing up; yet no one was inconvenienced by my ill behavior |
DeschutesRiver |
Nov-01-09 12:37 PM |
#40 |
 
What you talk about is what's not done these days |
Raineyb |
Nov-01-09 01:29 PM |
#58 |

When my kids were very small, I started reading Dr. Spock. |
janx |
Nov-01-09 02:02 PM |
#63 |
 
Holy Sha-moly! Reason and logic! |
Raster |
Nov-01-09 02:15 PM |
#66 |

Spock was great. At the time I read his book, Baby and Child Care, |
janx |
Nov-01-09 02:53 PM |
#79 |

We've actually done that - where we sat down, ordered, the kids started to explode, |
calimary |
Nov-01-09 03:53 PM |
#107 |

well, I had kids |
JitterbugPerfume |
Nov-01-09 02:35 PM |
#77 |

I don't either. |
janx |
Nov-01-09 03:03 PM |
#84 |

I've often wondered what the hell is wrong with so many parents today. |
AndyA |
Nov-01-09 11:38 AM |
#3 |
 
A couple of years ago I related a restaurant horror story here on DU |
LibDemAlways |
Nov-01-09 11:50 AM |
#7 |
  
This thread will bring some similar responses, I guarantee. |
MineralMan |
Nov-01-09 11:53 AM |
#9 |
 
The Cult of Parenthood happened |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 12:02 PM |
#12 |
 
It's not just parents. Our society has become one in which |
MineralMan |
Nov-01-09 12:05 PM |
#13 |
  
Well said nt |
snagglepuss |
Nov-01-09 12:37 PM |
#41 |
 
cuz they don't want to hurt the little monster's feelings |
bikingaz |
Nov-01-09 03:33 PM |
#98 |

As a parent I am in total agreement with this guy. |
LibDemAlways |
Nov-01-09 11:45 AM |
#5 |
 
"Mind your own business." And that parent's attitude is why the child was a train wreck. |
Raster |
Nov-01-09 02:25 PM |
#72 |

Written by someone who never scraped together $300 |
sandnsea |
Nov-01-09 11:50 AM |
#6 |
 
"high fives sandnsea" |
Number23 |
Nov-01-09 12:05 PM |
#14 |
 
Ah, the predictable trotting out of the poor parent taking the child to a funeral |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 12:09 PM |
#17 |
  
Well, I know a way to help, and wrote about it yesterday. |
MineralMan |
Nov-01-09 12:18 PM |
#28 |
   
Yep. They want "help" but they want it on their terms. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 12:26 PM |
#34 |
  
Oh, well... |
MineralMan |
Nov-01-09 12:29 PM |
#37 |
  
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name not needed |
Nov-01-09 02:08 PM |
#65 |
  
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Name removed |
Nov-01-09 03:10 PM |
#86 |
   
That's all you can say, eh? "You really hate breeders and children..." |
Raster |
Nov-01-09 03:22 PM |
#92 |
  
No more than kid haters in these threads have done |
MattBaggins |
Nov-01-09 03:25 PM |
#95 |
  
It's not hatred. It's tired of bending over back wards to accommodate ill-mannered children. |
Raster |
Nov-01-09 03:29 PM |
#96 |
  
No there are two sides to every coin |
MattBaggins |
Nov-01-09 03:34 PM |
#100 |
  
No one on this thread--NO ONE--has said ..."they hate breeders and children..." |
Raster |
Nov-01-09 03:50 PM |
#105 |
  
There have been a few threads about this subject |
MattBaggins |
Nov-01-09 03:59 PM |
#109 |
  
Like it or not, you're packing the "venom" today. |
Raster |
Nov-01-09 04:14 PM |
#118 |
  
Obviously that is all common sense |
MattBaggins |
Nov-01-09 04:24 PM |
#120 |
  
co-workers who take on extra assignments, miss days off |
WolverineDG |
Nov-01-09 04:01 PM |
#110 |
 
I tried to help a mother once with a child, and I was told it was none of my business. |
AndyA |
Nov-01-09 12:09 PM |
#18 |
  
Great rebuttal. nt |
snagglepuss |
Nov-01-09 12:42 PM |
#44 |
  
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Name removed |
Nov-01-09 03:08 PM |
#85 |
 
My my. Somebody needs a nap. |
Sub Atomic |
Nov-01-09 03:24 PM |
#94 |
 
Ah another one of the kid haters raises tehir ugly heads |
MattBaggins |
Nov-01-09 03:30 PM |
#97 |
 
Then why did you even bother to respond? You get to speak your piece, but no one else? |
Raster |
Nov-01-09 12:09 PM |
#19 |
  
Yeah, that's how I grew up, too. |
MineralMan |
Nov-01-09 12:27 PM |
#35 |
 
"It's not a miracle. It's parenting. No truer words.....Unfortunately, this day and age |
Raster |
Nov-01-09 12:30 PM |
#38 |
 
I swear to God, the majority of teenage and young adult males I know are on drugs |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 12:54 PM |
#49 |
 
+1 |
soleiri |
Nov-01-09 12:18 PM |
#27 |
 
I agree. |
Luminous Animal |
Nov-01-09 01:03 PM |
#50 |
  
That pretty much refutes what sandnsea said |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 01:27 PM |
#57 |
 
Ooops. I meant to point out that NOT helping out is the standard. |
Luminous Animal |
Nov-01-09 04:12 PM |
#116 |
 
Hmm; doesn't pass the smell test. It may indeed 'take a village' to raise a child properly, |
Aristus |
Nov-01-09 01:12 PM |
#53 |
 
This "mother" was doing nothing to control her child |
WolverineDG |
Nov-01-09 02:05 PM |
#64 |
 
oh bullshit.. being poor is NOT an excuse to not teach children how to behave |
nini |
Nov-01-09 02:33 PM |
#76 |
 
Have you tried |
TicketyBoo |
Nov-01-09 03:53 PM |
#106 |

That's bossing and interfering, not helping n/t |
sandnsea |
Nov-01-09 04:12 PM |
#115 |

I was in the supermarket a couple of weeks ago. A boy about |
MineralMan |
Nov-01-09 11:50 AM |
#8 |
 
It's too bad you couldn't have backhanded the bastard across the aisle... |
Raster |
Nov-01-09 12:16 PM |
#26 |
  
Not my style. But I understand what you're saying. |
MineralMan |
Nov-01-09 12:19 PM |
#29 |
 
It's not my style either. However, I do harbor fantasies. |
Raster |
Nov-01-09 12:20 PM |
#30 |
 
omigod, i got yelled at for the same reason. mom on cellohone ignoring kid ramming the cart into me |
bettyellen |
Nov-01-09 02:37 PM |
#78 |

Isn't that the worst? You get hurt by some brat, and the mom |
MineralMan |
Nov-01-09 03:01 PM |
#83 |
 
a lot of it is the parent spends all the time on the cell phone- the kid and you are disrupting them |
bettyellen |
Nov-01-09 03:14 PM |
#88 |

I have a strategy for annoying cell phone users, |
MineralMan |
Nov-01-09 03:34 PM |
#99 |

who's parenting the parents??? nt |
WolverineDG |
Nov-01-09 03:53 PM |
#108 |

Managing average toddler behavior can be a learned skill set. |
MissMarple |
Nov-01-09 11:56 AM |
#10 |
 
My husband's siblings... |
a la izquierda |
Nov-01-09 12:08 PM |
#16 |
 
It can be |
TicketyBoo |
Nov-01-09 04:03 PM |
#112 |

When you are the parent of an obstreperous youngster.. the constant |
annabanana |
Nov-01-09 11:59 AM |
#11 |
 
I can understand that |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 12:16 PM |
#25 |

I usually apologized and attempted to rein in the little bugger.. . |
annabanana |
Nov-01-09 02:54 PM |
#80 |

Kitty, your link's not working! |
Number23 |
Nov-01-09 12:08 PM |
#15 |
 
I just tried it and it works for me. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 12:13 PM |
#22 |

Saw your link downthread and got it to work. BEST COMMENT on this topic |
Number23 |
Nov-01-09 12:38 PM |
#42 |

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Name removed |
Nov-01-09 12:47 PM |
#47 |

If she never even thought about it, then I'd say that she's pretty insensitive |
petronius |
Nov-01-09 12:10 PM |
#20 |
 
In Southwest's statement they said the flight crew gave the child coloring books and juice. |
tammywammy |
Nov-01-09 12:21 PM |
#32 |

In that case, I guess mom was pretty obtuse. Drowning out the safety |
petronius |
Nov-01-09 01:35 PM |
#59 |

edit,,,link working now...thanks.... |
dixiegrrrrl |
Nov-01-09 12:13 PM |
#21 |
 
Still works for me |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 12:14 PM |
#24 |
 
Works for me, too. |
MineralMan |
Nov-01-09 12:21 PM |
#31 |

Let's not forget the ubiquitous screaming babies and children in movies |
lunatica |
Nov-01-09 12:14 PM |
#23 |

I am all for introducing young children to public places in order to teach them how to behave. |
elocs |
Nov-01-09 12:25 PM |
#33 |

A study in contrasts: |
Raster |
Nov-01-09 12:28 PM |
#36 |
 
Yup. I've seen the same contrast. |
MineralMan |
Nov-01-09 12:45 PM |
#45 |
 
Pretty much my experiece with children. |
kiva |
Nov-01-09 12:51 PM |
#48 |

I must say I agree. I only had one bad experience as a new |
Fire1 |
Nov-01-09 02:00 PM |
#62 |

"...fortunately, it was at the zoo." |
janx |
Nov-01-09 03:18 PM |
#89 |

Your point? n/t |
Fire1 |
Nov-01-09 03:21 PM |
#91 |

My point is that I understand you completely! |
janx |
Nov-01-09 03:47 PM |
#104 |

Wow. I am so amazed by how different the responses on DU are to this situation. |
Writer |
Nov-01-09 12:40 PM |
#43 |
 
Yeah, well, allowing the little unruly kids their "space in the world" only breeds |
Raster |
Nov-01-09 12:47 PM |
#46 |
 
LOL. Sorry. |
Robb |
Nov-01-09 01:05 PM |
#51 |
  
Narp, I wasn't actually. I joined in 2005. |
Writer |
Nov-01-09 01:08 PM |
#52 |
 
Let's just say other people's kids are a rough topic. |
Robb |
Nov-01-09 01:13 PM |
#54 |
 
Kids should be allowed to run up and down plane aisles screaming while in flight? |
stray cat |
Nov-01-09 02:24 PM |
#70 |

I've never flown with my autistic daughter because I don't know how she will react |
K8-EEE |
Nov-01-09 01:14 PM |
#55 |

I work for the airlines. This is what I said earlier: |
pink-o |
Nov-01-09 01:17 PM |
#56 |

The kid might well have settled down 5 minutes after takeoff.. |
lostnfound |
Nov-01-09 01:40 PM |
#60 |
 
The kid *might* have settled down five minutes after takeoff, OR the kid *might* |
Raster |
Nov-01-09 01:51 PM |
#61 |
 
A drunk adult acting up is usually escorted off before take off |
stray cat |
Nov-01-09 02:25 PM |
#71 |
 
Which is why, barring emergencies, children that young don't belong on planes. |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 02:26 PM |
#73 |

Or take the redeye so the child can sleep comfortably. More space, less expensive. |
Raster |
Nov-01-09 02:29 PM |
#74 |

Ahhh Haaa --- limosine liberal aren't you? |
MattBaggins |
Nov-01-09 03:21 PM |
#90 |
 
It doesn't revolve around your selfish desire to schlep your toddler around on planes |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 04:10 PM |
#114 |

You're right, it really doesn't matter if the kid's aging grandparents die before they see the baby. |
lostnfound |
Nov-01-09 03:37 PM |
#102 |

But your child might breath near her |
MattBaggins |
Nov-01-09 03:40 PM |
#103 |
 
Honey, you're the one with the delicate sensibilities. |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 04:06 PM |
#113 |

No some people actually hate children |
MattBaggins |
Nov-01-09 04:16 PM |
#119 |

Some people do hate children. Unfortunately many of them become parents. |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 04:29 PM |
#122 |

I'd consider that an emergency. |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 04:02 PM |
#111 |

I flew with my 2 and 3 year old to Florida a few years ago. |
Jennicut |
Nov-01-09 02:19 PM |
#67 |
 
They probably had a blast! |
janx |
Nov-01-09 02:23 PM |
#69 |

They still talk about it two years later. They liked tiding on the buses |
Jennicut |
Nov-01-09 02:33 PM |
#75 |

I cannot imagine what it must be like to take small children |
janx |
Nov-01-09 02:57 PM |
#82 |

Yes. Plus, we had strollers. It was a hassle. |
Jennicut |
Nov-01-09 03:35 PM |
#101 |

Meh...all I see is lack of compassion on all sides. |
krabigirl |
Nov-01-09 02:22 PM |
#68 |
 
I see a strawman |
Hello_Kitty |
Nov-01-09 02:57 PM |
#81 |

Well, it all seems to come down to whether or not you |
MineralMan |
Nov-01-09 03:24 PM |
#93 |

Boy aren't you selfish |
MattBaggins |
Nov-01-09 04:13 PM |
#117 |

Do you resemble the parody of the response that you've put out there? |
Raineyb |
Nov-01-09 04:24 PM |
#121 |

My husband was in the army and he went to germany before me and our 6 week old baby. |
southernyankeebelle |
Nov-01-09 03:11 PM |
#87 |

We're locking this. |
pinto |
Nov-01-09 04:31 PM |
#123 |