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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 07:06 PM
Response to Reply #55
69. Yes, actually
The US is doing military action on Pakistani soil. You can infer from the lack of complaints from Islamabad that they're fine with it.
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  -Hilary Clinton is a crappy diplomat, from what I've seen. DaveinJapan  Nov-01-09 07:40 AM   #0 
  - Yeah, I would tend to agree.  ixion   Nov-01-09 07:41 AM   #1 
  - Who's ordering the drones?  rug   Nov-01-09 07:42 AM   #2 
  - Excellent point. But it's her job to deal with that in any case, right?  DaveinJapan   Nov-01-09 07:47 AM   #5 
     - It is. Sometimes glib works, sometimes it doesn't.  rug   Nov-01-09 07:52 AM   #9 
        - That's not what HRC or Richard Holbrooke said prior to the visit  karynnj   Nov-01-09 07:35 PM   #73 
        - Where's those gestapo boots Condi wore on her diplomatic outings?  marshall   Nov-01-09 08:57 PM   #90 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-01-09 07:45 AM   #3 
  - That's diplomatic.  rug   Nov-01-09 07:46 AM   #4 
  - I'm not a diplomat.  DaveinJapan   Nov-01-09 07:47 AM   #6 
  - i rec'd to counter the unrec. she was really horrible with regards  jonnyblitz   Nov-01-09 07:49 AM   #8 
     - Thanks. :) I understand and appreciate your input very well and I feel the same way. nt  DaveinJapan   Nov-01-09 07:58 AM   #11 
  - Diplomacy is usually left for diplomats. That isn't her job that I'm aware of.  mmonk   Nov-01-09 07:48 AM   #7 
  - That's strange. I've so often heard the office of SoS referred to as "the top U.S. Diplomat".  DaveinJapan   Nov-01-09 08:01 AM   #12 
  - I thought that was the point of the job. No?  dkf   Nov-01-09 08:07 AM   #15 
  - Yes. But differing in that they are to express the president's policy  mmonk   Nov-01-09 08:39 AM   #29 
  - I'm sure it's Obama's job though.  Life Long Dem   Nov-01-09 10:46 AM   #45 
  - Wasn't Dept. of State morphed from the original Dept. of War? I think so...  wordpix   Nov-01-09 07:45 PM   #79 
  - I can't imagine anyone who would need diplomatic skills more than the SOS, frankly.  TwilightGardener   Nov-01-09 08:08 AM   #16 
  - The SOS is the Top Diplomat. nt  OmmmSweetOmmm   Nov-01-09 01:13 PM   #52 
  - Secretary of State is not a diplomatic "job"  karynnj   Nov-01-09 07:36 PM   #74 
  - She already fucked up health care once  izquierdista   Nov-01-09 07:55 AM   #10 
  - Bull absolute bull  Bitwit1234   Nov-01-09 09:30 AM   #40 
     - Which she should have accounted for  izquierdista   Nov-01-09 09:39 AM   #43 
     - No - it was never even voted on in either House  karynnj   Nov-01-09 07:42 PM   #78 
  - she really had a hard time dealing with the intelligence of her questioners  madrchsod   Nov-01-09 08:05 AM   #13 
  - She isn't very smooth certainly.  dkf   Nov-01-09 08:05 AM   #14 
  - she folds under pressure and then gets defensive and rude  Whisp   Nov-01-09 11:42 AM   #48 
     - Exactly.  tabasco   Nov-01-09 01:08 PM   #50 
  - I didn't see the clip you referred to, so I'm not sure what was said or how it was said,  AndyA   Nov-01-09 08:14 AM   #17 
  - "We're tired of policing their country for them."  Flaneur   Nov-01-09 01:41 PM   #55 
     - Perhaps it would be to our mutual benefit (US and Pakistan) to  Obamanaut   Nov-01-09 03:19 PM   #59 
     - Yes, actually  northzax   Nov-01-09 07:06 PM   #69 
        - Duh, ironing out the widespread complaints is the very PURPOSE of her visit.  closeupready   Nov-01-09 09:42 PM   #94 
           - Oh, are people complaining? Sure  northzax   Nov-02-09 02:54 AM   #97 
  - Thanks for all the insightful replies, everyone!  DaveinJapan   Nov-01-09 08:15 AM   #18 
  - The thread is a crappy thread, from what I've seen.  TexasObserver   Nov-01-09 08:19 AM   #19 
  - You mean too much reality, not enough fanboy?  dkf   Nov-01-09 08:20 AM   #20 
     - Too much ignorance, not enough knowledge.  TexasObserver   Nov-01-09 08:23 AM   #21 
     - "fanboy"  HughMoran   Nov-01-09 08:31 AM   #26 
        - We aren't freepers you know.  dkf   Nov-01-09 09:05 AM   #36 
           - ...but you're acting like one  HughMoran   Nov-01-09 09:27 AM   #39 
              - Hello, I said we AREN'T fanboys.  dkf   Nov-01-09 02:26 PM   #56 
                 - Uggh, maybe I should lay off the crack pipe  HughMoran   Nov-01-09 06:26 PM   #64 
  - Do you have a link to a video?  noamnety   Nov-01-09 08:24 AM   #22 
  - here....  madrchsod   Nov-01-09 08:38 AM   #28 
     - Thanks for the link  noamnety   Nov-01-09 01:21 PM   #53 
     - International Law is - "What we say, goes."  closeupready   Nov-01-09 09:53 PM   #95 
  - This is one reason that I'm glad that she wasn't put in charge of Health Care.  Altoid_Cyclist   Nov-01-09 08:26 AM   #23 
  - Hillary just said that the Afghanistan run-off is "unaffected" by Abdullahs' boycott  majamay   Nov-01-09 08:27 AM   #24 
  - This woman has been working for nine months....  Walk away   Nov-01-09 08:29 AM   #25 
  - she represents the man and the country that employs her.  madrchsod   Nov-01-09 08:50 AM   #32 
  - Funny you should mention that  tularetom   Nov-01-09 08:33 AM   #27 
  - she was really rude to those in her african dust-up.  madrchsod   Nov-01-09 08:42 AM   #31 
  - Health care wouldn't appear to be her long suit.  saltpoint   Nov-01-09 08:41 AM   #30 
  - Hillary is a Hawk. Can you imagine her as president right now?  RC   Nov-01-09 08:53 AM   #33 
  - we already do....iran.  madrchsod   Nov-01-09 08:54 AM   #34 
  - I think she would have been wonderful with health care, it was something she was passionate about.  wisteria   Nov-01-09 09:02 AM   #35 
  - obviously you haven't seen much... nt  DURHAM D   Nov-01-09 09:06 AM   #37 
  - Yeah it sucks she has to defend the  MyNameGoesHere   Nov-01-09 09:13 AM   #38 
  - --setting up a 2012 matchup between Hillary and Sarah Palin:  saltpoint   Nov-01-09 09:33 AM   #41 
  - She comes across as crass and imperious- Rather representative I'd say  Orwellian_Ghost   Nov-01-09 09:37 AM   #42 
  - arrogant, domineering and insensitive  bvar22   Nov-01-09 07:38 PM   #76 
  - Rachel maddow said she would kill Bin Laden with a spoon.  sattahipdeep   Nov-01-09 09:41 AM   #44 
  - I just rec'd this to see what would happen but you're still at less than 0  Number23   Nov-01-09 10:59 AM   #46 
  - I just unrecommended this cuz it's insane.  donheld   Nov-01-09 11:01 AM   #47 
  - How so?  DaveinJapan   Nov-01-09 04:25 PM   #61 
     - Who cares? Honestly?  northzax   Nov-01-09 07:19 PM   #71 
     - Yes I do. I think she's doing very well  donheld   Nov-01-09 08:25 PM   #85 
        - You think she did well *in this case*?  DaveinJapan   Nov-01-09 09:27 PM   #93 
  - HC's a Diplomat?  cherokeeprogressive   Nov-01-09 11:45 AM   #49 
  - She's trying to defend an indefensible policy of aggression.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-01-09 01:11 PM   #51 
  - those drones are beyond immoral and no one with a shred of morality  La Lioness Priyanka   Nov-01-09 01:32 PM   #54 
  - how can drones be immoral.  bikingaz   Nov-01-09 03:03 PM   #58 
     - i clearly meaant both the usage of them and the pretense that its not killing civilians  La Lioness Priyanka   Nov-01-09 03:39 PM   #60 
  - You can be sure that any responses have been approved by the White House  Nikki Stone1   Nov-01-09 02:27 PM   #57 
  - I'm not sure. That's just not Obama's style....  Whisp   Nov-01-09 05:28 PM   #62 
  - From what you've seen? Well, you haven't seen much.  joeybee12   Nov-01-09 05:52 PM   #63 
  - More than happy to, why?  DaveinJapan   Nov-01-09 07:02 PM   #68 
  - Once again, Obama's "pragmatic" political decision hurts his presidency and world peace prospects  Liberation Angel   Nov-01-09 06:43 PM   #65 
  - She's a crappy diplomat because she can't make up good enough excuses for a crappy president ?  forum slut   Nov-01-09 06:49 PM   #66 
  - Wow, this is the number one "on the fence" topic! Neat. nt  DaveinJapan   Nov-01-09 07:00 PM   #67 
  - The question should have been made to the guy in the WH.  Beacool   Nov-01-09 07:18 PM   #70 
  - Pakistan is in the midst of a MAJOR attack on the Taliban, which has led to over 1 million  karynnj   Nov-01-09 08:03 PM   #82 
     - Now they are, but what about in years past?  Beacool   Nov-01-09 08:45 PM   #88 
        - The point is she was speaking this week, in the midst of this effort  karynnj   Nov-01-09 08:51 PM   #89 
           - Well, we can agree to disagree.  Beacool   Nov-01-09 08:58 PM   #91 
  - She is FAR BETTER than Rice/Powell ever was.....not perfect but not Faling  opihimoimoi   Nov-01-09 07:34 PM   #72 
  - Rice is a very low bar to set, and I'm not sure she's better than Powell.  JVS   Nov-01-09 07:47 PM   #80 
     - Last I heard Hillary has not lied us into a war the way Powell did.  Walk away   Nov-01-09 08:24 PM   #84 
        - My knowledge of what Powell has done is sketchy. Did he know any more than Hillary did when she...  JVS   Nov-01-09 08:30 PM   #86 
  - Would you post links to the Maddow show in question?  Deja Q   Nov-01-09 07:38 PM   #75 
  - Sure.  DaveinJapan   Nov-01-09 07:52 PM   #81 
  - She's Been Doing A Great Job Since She's Been In The Position. I Couldn't Be Prouder Of Her.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Nov-01-09 07:40 PM   #77 
  - Ditto  donheld   Nov-01-09 08:24 PM   #83 
  - Unrec  liquid diamond   Nov-01-09 08:40 PM   #87 
  - from Reuters...  druidity33   Nov-01-09 09:17 PM   #92 
  - Not really. There is nobody capable of putting a nice face on imperial bullying  eridani   Nov-01-09 11:57 PM   #96 

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