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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 08:11 PM
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12. tenderness begins with acceptance, i think.
without it, how can we begin?
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  -look, you are all going to die. horrible deaths. obama is not going to save you. mopinko  Oct-29-09 07:58 PM   #0 
  - Well, you can't see it...  JuniperLea   Oct-29-09 08:00 PM   #1 
  - Well, yes, but why rush the process?  The Velveteen Ocelot   Oct-29-09 08:00 PM   #2 
  - why stall the process?  mopinko   Oct-29-09 08:25 PM   #18 
  - If you have a condition that would be fatal but is curable  The Velveteen Ocelot   Oct-29-09 08:31 PM   #19 
     - that is not my point. my point is that people's fear of death is infusing the  mopinko   Oct-29-09 08:43 PM   #21 
        - I think it's the fear of PREMATURE death that is infusing the debate  dflprincess   Oct-29-09 09:17 PM   #24 
           - well, that would not be my point, but  mopinko   Oct-29-09 09:29 PM   #30 
  - Bad health is one thing - what about bad choices?  bikingaz   Oct-29-09 09:39 PM   #36 
     - Seriesly?  SammyWinstonJack   Oct-30-09 08:36 AM   #55 
  - It's true that we're all going to die...  CaliforniaPeggy   Oct-29-09 08:03 PM   #3 
  - tenderness begins with acceptance, i think.  mopinko   Oct-29-09 08:11 PM   #12 
  - in all respect,  G_j   Oct-29-09 08:03 PM   #4 
  - Tell ya what.... maybe we can publish a daily list of who has died, so you can cheer.  bobbolink   Oct-29-09 08:03 PM   #5 
  - We're all Reagan's children here.  kenny blankenship   Oct-29-09 08:08 PM   #6 
  - sometimes it takes a hard heart to look into the abyss, but  mopinko   Oct-29-09 08:10 PM   #10 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-09 08:11 PM   #13 
     - No more treatment for your fibro. You can live with the pain.  REP   Oct-29-09 09:27 PM   #29 
        - i do. perhaps that is why i do not see  mopinko   Oct-29-09 09:36 PM   #32 
           - The Canadians don't seem to be "crazy with fear", maybe  ipaint   Oct-29-09 09:57 PM   #42 
              - so, you are saying that canadians don't fear death?  mopinko   Oct-30-09 07:51 AM   #51 
                 - Yes they do. They are human.  ipaint   Oct-30-09 08:09 AM   #53 
  - Mo as a hospice nurse who watches people die on a regular basis I gotta agree with  mucifer   Oct-29-09 08:08 PM   #7 
  - you know, i went to india this spring, and we are so lucky here.  mopinko   Oct-29-09 08:17 PM   #16 
     - The people with good healthcare don't live with that fear. *That* is what  Lars39   Oct-30-09 12:02 AM   #46 
     - people with good healthcare think they are immortal? or they are just  mopinko   Oct-30-09 07:32 AM   #47 
        - The people with good healthcare tend to take it for granted...they don't  Lars39   Oct-30-09 10:58 AM   #63 
           - that doesn't make them not terrified of what will show up on the mri.  mopinko   Oct-30-09 02:42 PM   #64 
              - but not of going into debt or on the dole to pay for it. not of losing all their assets  Hannah Bell   Oct-30-09 03:41 PM   #73 
     - no, the fact that indians live in abject poverty without health care doesn't equate  Hannah Bell   Oct-30-09 03:38 PM   #72 
  - I might not have put it the way you said  bluestateguy   Oct-29-09 08:08 PM   #8 
  - You miss the point in a very big way....  WCGreen   Oct-29-09 08:08 PM   #9 
  - the family going BANKRUPT, and THEN dying  G_j   Oct-29-09 08:16 PM   #14 
  - no, i know that. it is my real fear.  mopinko   Oct-29-09 08:20 PM   #17 
     - that's the "you're spoiled, other people have no feet, why don't you just cut yours off, then  Hannah Bell   Oct-30-09 03:48 PM   #74 
  - r  mdmc   Oct-29-09 08:10 PM   #11 
  - Ive always realizaed that  Oregone   Oct-29-09 08:17 PM   #15 
  - kicked and recommended  ixion   Oct-29-09 08:33 PM   #20 
  - Well some of us are going to die way too soon because we can't get care for  walldude   Oct-29-09 08:47 PM   #22 
  - exhibit a. np  mopinko   Oct-29-09 09:09 PM   #23 
     - LMAO.. that's all you got? Exhibit A?  walldude   Oct-30-09 08:49 AM   #58 
  - and people call me a doom and gloomer  AllentownJake   Oct-29-09 09:21 PM   #25 
  - There are fates worse than death  laughingliberal   Oct-29-09 09:24 PM   #26 
  - You will bury your children. Have a nice day now!  REP   Oct-29-09 09:27 PM   #27 
  - Hah! The rest of us are immortal. We have secret knowledge!  saltpoint   Oct-29-09 09:27 PM   #28 
  - Why bother doing anything at all then?  Lorien   Oct-29-09 09:30 PM   #31 
  - another one who missed the point.  mopinko   Oct-29-09 09:37 PM   #33 
     - If you actually had a point besides the one on your head  walldude   Oct-30-09 08:46 AM   #57 
  - I will probably die earlier then most if my kidney or liver goes. I have accepted that I most likely  Jennicut   Oct-29-09 09:37 PM   #34 
  - i think my point is proven here.  mopinko   Oct-29-09 09:39 PM   #35 
  - What point? That people don't want to die because they couldn't afford to treat an illness?  WildEyedLiberal   Oct-29-09 10:15 PM   #43 
  - not saying anyting of the sort, but that doesn't seem to be stopping the  mopinko   Oct-30-09 07:42 AM   #50 
  - i don't think so. in fact, the poster's comment has nothing to do with your "point".  Hannah Bell   Oct-30-09 03:54 PM   #75 
  - I hope I die in my sleep. I've never expected any President to fulfill that hope. nt  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-29-09 09:48 PM   #37 
  - Of course. But he can affect the quality of our lives before then. nt  uppityperson   Oct-29-09 09:49 PM   #38 
  - In our darkest hour, Franklin Pierce will visit us like a spectre and drop  saltpoint   Oct-29-09 09:52 PM   #39 
  - Indeed, fear just makes you stupid. nt  bemildred   Oct-29-09 09:53 PM   #40 
  - Rich people make that kind of argument a lot. Just like their "Money doesn't buy happiness" schtick  anonymous171   Oct-29-09 09:56 PM   #41 
  - Spot on  Bluenorthwest   Oct-30-09 08:28 AM   #54 
     - +1. Also how those who don't 'get' her 'point' are semi-illiterate. Nice.  SammyWinstonJack   Oct-30-09 08:45 AM   #56 
  - The point is, we all die,...HOW ARE WE GOING TO LIVE?  sicksicksick_N_tired   Oct-29-09 10:29 PM   #44 
  - UNREC imperative for humane medical system not = fear of death n/t  philly_bob   Oct-29-09 11:54 PM   #45 
  - Oh no! Just read DU, if you don't smoke, don't drink soda, wear a seatbelt  RB TexLa   Oct-30-09 07:38 AM   #48 
  - And some die a lot sooner than they should.....  marmar   Oct-30-09 07:39 AM   #49 
  - that would be the other  mopinko   Oct-30-09 07:53 AM   #52 
  - So I Guess We Shouldn't Bother Eating?  Toasterlad   Oct-30-09 09:20 AM   #59 
  - you missed the point completely  mopinko   Oct-30-09 02:44 PM   #65 
     - Why Don't You Explain It To Me?  Toasterlad   Oct-30-09 02:52 PM   #67 
  - Afraid of dying?  Are_grits_groceries   Oct-30-09 10:16 AM   #60 
  - So what you're saying is suffer and die penniliess and in debt and you'd better like it, bitch!  earth mom   Oct-30-09 10:23 AM   #61 
  - I would suggest  H2O Man   Oct-30-09 10:26 AM   #62 
  - or will the fear of their own mortality dog them, and dim their lives.  mopinko   Oct-30-09 02:50 PM   #66 
     - Fear is the worst enemy  H2O Man   Oct-30-09 03:06 PM   #69 
  - "I wasn't born. I was fermented." - W.C. Fields  RagAss   Oct-30-09 02:54 PM   #68 
  - This is NO LONGER about healthcare. This is about RIGHT and WRONG. This is about the rights of the  rd_kent   Oct-30-09 03:09 PM   #70 
  - Reccied. My wife's best friend  cliffordu   Oct-30-09 03:12 PM   #71 
  - Health care could save a lot of lives  treestar   Oct-30-09 03:58 PM   #76 
  - Geesh, why don't you tell that to some mother with a sick child  Fla Dem   Oct-30-09 04:11 PM   #77 
 

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