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| -Jane Hamsher: House Health Care Bill: A Death Sentence For My Fellow Breast Cancer Survivors |
seafan |
Oct-29-09 02:48 PM |
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Off to greatest... |
FiveGoodMen |
Oct-29-09 02:59 PM |
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Please, STOP denying a step forward from the past. |
sicksicksick_N_tired |
Oct-29-09 10:13 PM |
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NO REFORM = DEATH SENTENCE nt |
sicksicksick_N_tired |
Oct-29-09 10:15 PM |
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The bill that came out today is not reform |
dflprincess |
Oct-29-09 10:23 PM |
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And like Jane Hamsher points out, the drugs will be |
truedelphi |
Oct-30-09 02:54 AM |
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And, the provisions in the bill will only START to close the donut hole |
dflprincess |
Oct-30-09 11:57 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-01-09 01:08 AM |
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the more I find out about the House Bill |
placton |
Oct-29-09 03:01 PM |
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jesus. i hate to say that i agree with your assessment. :( |
inna |
Oct-31-09 03:19 PM |
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Heartbreaking. |
annabanana |
Oct-29-09 03:01 PM |
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It is so disgusting, I could vomit. |
freddie mertz |
Oct-29-09 03:02 PM |
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Same here. Sold out, sold out and sold out. |
truedelphi |
Oct-30-09 02:51 AM |
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Jane Hamsher is my hero. |
nashville_brook |
Oct-29-09 03:03 PM |
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Wait until the Obama Administration finds out about this. Then you'll see results! Book it! |
Karmadillo |
Oct-29-09 03:03 PM |
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Dream on. |
emilyg |
Oct-29-09 06:56 PM |
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Some things you need to know about "The Obama Administration". |
bvar22 |
Oct-29-09 07:17 PM |
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Some of us have seen this about him since the very beginning |
truedelphi |
Oct-30-09 02:57 AM |
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Oh-My-God. |
inna |
Oct-30-09 08:47 PM |
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you forgot the sarcasm thingy..didn't you?? Surely you did! this was done because of Obama's secret |
flyarm |
Oct-29-09 07:24 PM |
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worth 81 billion or was it a mere 81 million? |
earcandle |
Oct-29-09 09:48 PM |
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I believe the deal was for 30 pieces of silver |
midnight armadillo |
Oct-29-09 10:30 PM |
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BWHAHAHAHAHA!!! |
bobbolink |
Oct-29-09 07:50 PM |
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Indeed. |
burning rain |
Oct-30-09 02:01 AM |
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When the Medicaire bill passed it was far from perfect |
MadMaddie |
Oct-29-09 03:08 PM |
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please please please |
placton |
Oct-29-09 03:10 PM |
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Medicare enrolled 93% of the population it was intended for, |
ipaint |
Oct-29-09 03:18 PM |
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AND THE PEOPLE DID NOT HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER AN ELECTION 4 YEARS AWAY FOR IT TO KICK IN! |
flyarm |
Oct-29-09 07:28 PM |
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You know, Ecuador just told Big Pharma that it would not honor their monopolies. |
EFerrari |
Oct-29-09 09:34 PM |
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and who are the smart people? and who are the damn fools? n/t |
flyarm |
Oct-30-09 12:52 AM |
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Where are the Free and the Brave? |
Demeter |
Oct-30-09 05:54 AM |
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"With the will of the people...?" |
wolfgangmo |
Oct-29-09 04:08 PM |
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You Are Correct |
Knight Hawk |
Oct-29-09 07:30 PM |
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And they sent 1500 people a DAY to the guillotine at the height. |
Le Taz Hot |
Oct-30-09 06:03 AM |
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this whole topic is absolutely fascinating. |
inna |
Oct-30-09 09:00 PM |
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But it was a good progressive bill and this insurance industry bill is beginning to stink!! |
Better Believe It |
Oct-29-09 04:13 PM |
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Live in the now. |
CrispyQ |
Oct-29-09 05:51 PM |
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"no longer serves the people?" Since when has "capitalism" |
Fire1 |
Oct-30-09 11:28 AM |
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I concede your point. |
CrispyQ |
Oct-30-09 12:42 PM |
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Medicare was open to everyone 65 and older, the government did not give subsidies... |
slipslidingaway |
Oct-29-09 06:34 PM |
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yep. |
BrklynLiberal |
Oct-29-09 11:33 PM |
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But we were told to think of the public option as being "like Medicare" ... |
slipslidingaway |
Oct-30-09 12:12 AM |
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We were lied to!! |
BrklynLiberal |
Oct-30-09 02:53 PM |
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+1 |
BREMPRO |
Oct-29-09 06:39 PM |
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Yeah, and I'm just lucky my mother didn't die from going without her |
EFerrari |
Oct-29-09 09:37 PM |
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I, quite frankly, am exhausted from hearing this |
xxqqqzme |
Oct-30-09 11:49 AM |
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Exactly, a succinct analysis of what could easily have been |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-30-09 10:53 PM |
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The corporate Dems sold us out again. SHAMEFUL what they'll do for the almighty $! |
mod mom |
Oct-29-09 03:13 PM |
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They want to clean our wallets for their buddies? It's time to CLEAN HOUSE and get OUR buddies in! |
cascadiance |
Oct-29-09 03:17 PM |
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To recap--~90% aren't eligible; full effect after 2013; drug profits shielded; no state single payer |
seafan |
Oct-29-09 03:48 PM |
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Kissing up to PhARMA on patents, eh? |
depakid |
Oct-29-09 03:50 PM |
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Yet another reason |
Coyote_Bandit |
Oct-29-09 04:25 PM |
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Outrage. There is a LOT of outrage to go around with the private insurance wet dream bill |
debbierlus |
Oct-29-09 04:31 PM |
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Liberals Are NOT Represented! This is a Royal FUCK Job and No Surprise |
theFrankFactor |
Oct-29-09 04:50 PM |
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Where does it say these drugs won't be covered under the Public Option? |
berni_mccoy |
Oct-29-09 04:55 PM |
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Hamsher gives substantive evidence at her link: |
seafan |
Oct-29-09 05:48 PM |
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All that is not evidence. It is people's stories about their INSURANCE companies not covering |
berni_mccoy |
Oct-29-09 07:47 PM |
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Who will pay for those drugs to keep these people alive? |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-29-09 09:55 PM |
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The OP makes an unsubstantiated claim. It's up to them to provide supporting evidence. |
berni_mccoy |
Oct-30-09 12:32 AM |
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don't waste your time..the cheerleader brigade knows damn well what the fuck they are pushing.. |
flyarm |
Oct-29-09 07:51 PM |
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Fine, can't make a reasoned argument, so call people names. There is no substance to the OP |
berni_mccoy |
Oct-30-09 12:33 AM |
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i have no interest in an argument ..the dye was cast when Obama had secret meetings with Big Pharma |
flyarm |
Oct-30-09 12:41 AM |
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thank you |
whathappened |
Oct-30-09 07:23 AM |
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Why is Congress practicing medicine? Did Bill Frist send them a video? |
MissMarple |
Oct-29-09 05:21 PM |
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K&R |
pleah |
Oct-29-09 05:43 PM |
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I have emailed an activist who has ties to Eshoo and others in the Bay Area... |
Ardent15 |
Oct-29-09 05:53 PM |
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Wait until the Democrats have a majority in Congress and retake the presidency.. |
Fumesucker |
Oct-29-09 05:53 PM |
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Meanwhile there are DUers who are trying to shove this plan down our throats |
earth mom |
Oct-29-09 05:54 PM |
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knr - but Where the HELL was everyone back in July, August, September and October ... |
slipslidingaway |
Oct-29-09 06:22 PM |
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I personally was out at Town Halls getting yelled at by teabaggers, and pounding the halls of... |
demodonkey |
Oct-29-09 06:48 PM |
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Not expecting anyone to say what they were doing personally... |
slipslidingaway |
Oct-29-09 07:15 PM |
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WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE TEA BAGGERS DEMANDING REAL HEALTH CARE REFORM! |
flyarm |
Oct-29-09 07:41 PM |
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Protest against your own Party??? Most would not be willing to do so... |
slipslidingaway |
Oct-29-09 09:35 PM |
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Health Care: Eleven Ways That the House Bill is Better - |
GreenTea |
Oct-29-09 07:39 PM |
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go Jane!!!!!!! |
FLAprogressive |
Oct-29-09 07:41 PM |
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Jane is a hero..and she has been smeared here at Du by the fucking cheerleaders of this bullshit |
flyarm |
Oct-29-09 07:47 PM |
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I gotta wean myself off DU |
Generator |
Oct-29-09 07:47 PM |
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I myself have spent a great deal of time at Firedoglake..they at least are trying to do something |
flyarm |
Oct-29-09 07:55 PM |
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+ 1. |
truedelphi |
Oct-30-09 02:59 AM |
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Hate to hear this. But this is something that is fixable in the future. Easier to amend ... |
Honeycombe8 |
Oct-29-09 07:47 PM |
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oh bullshit..how many have to die of breast cancer first??????? |
flyarm |
Oct-29-09 07:54 PM |
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Bullshit. Well, I can see why you didn't win the arguments over this, if that's your |
Honeycombe8 |
Oct-29-09 08:33 PM |
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I don't need to win an argument..the argument was won..by the fucking dems in this congress..and on |
flyarm |
Oct-29-09 09:30 PM |
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i get it...i am a breast cancer survivor |
noiretextatique |
Oct-30-09 12:24 PM |
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You do realize this isn't about Breast Cancer |
LynneSin |
Oct-30-09 01:51 PM |
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Yes, well Jane and I hope they amend it sooner |
madmax |
Oct-30-09 12:48 AM |
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That's what we were told about Clinton's horrendous |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-30-09 11:13 PM |
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If this is how it pans out, it's time to plan an Underground Railroad for life-saving drugs. |
bobbolink |
Oct-29-09 07:53 PM |
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No. It's time to build an Underground Railroad for leaving for Canada |
troubledamerican |
Oct-29-09 10:15 PM |
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Canada doesn't take poor people either. Too bad you had to answer "NO" so quickly. |
bobbolink |
Oct-31-09 05:20 PM |
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I admire Jane very much. |
tnlefty |
Oct-29-09 08:26 PM |
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K&R |
Vidar |
Oct-29-09 09:59 PM |
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As soon as the fed start paying the bills, they will force every provider to cut costs, |
McCamy Taylor |
Oct-29-09 10:14 PM |
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As much as I dislike having to, |
BobTheSubgenius |
Oct-29-09 10:52 PM |
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This hurts. It really does. |
AzDar |
Oct-29-09 11:08 PM |
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K n R |
BrklynLiberal |
Oct-29-09 11:33 PM |
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are you getting it now, people? |
Skittles |
Oct-30-09 01:46 AM |
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That is my new sig line. Thank you. n/t |
truedelphi |
Oct-30-09 01:26 PM |
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This is bad news indeed. |
winyanstaz |
Oct-30-09 02:34 AM |
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Some Have Sold Out - Others Have Wimped Out (Obama) |
timzi |
Oct-30-09 05:15 AM |
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Perhaps it would be best to scrap any Health Care Legislation for the time being, and revisit |
NorthCarolina |
Oct-30-09 09:12 AM |
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REC: all true, but "biologics" are new & should be handled in separate bill. |
philly_bob |
Oct-30-09 09:47 AM |
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I agree they should be in seperate bill, although I have not read the report... |
slipslidingaway |
Oct-30-09 01:20 PM |
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When they're down to arguing over slices of the pie ... |
philly_bob |
Oct-30-09 04:32 PM |
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No personal opinion about the time period, several people wanted 5 years... |
slipslidingaway |
Oct-31-09 11:39 AM |
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Thom Hartmann talking about this post now |
Canuckistanian |
Oct-30-09 12:11 PM |
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Repulsive |
FlyByNight |
Oct-30-09 12:15 PM |
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K&R |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Oct-30-09 12:16 PM |
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Kick for Thom H. talking to Jane H. right now! |
bullwinkle428 |
Oct-30-09 12:36 PM |
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I am listening too... |
avaistheone1 |
Oct-30-09 12:40 PM |
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If you agree with Jane Hamsher, most likely you disagree with Howard Dean... |
slipslidingaway |
Oct-30-09 01:14 PM |
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Once again everyone goes off the deep end but what else is new |
LynneSin |
Oct-30-09 01:44 PM |
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The OP mentions other diseases in addition to breast cancer, also this is not... |
slipslidingaway |
Oct-30-09 02:42 PM |
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I'm reading the entire thread |
LynneSin |
Oct-30-09 02:46 PM |
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Again this is not about something NOT being in the bill, it is about an amendment IN... |
slipslidingaway |
Oct-30-09 02:53 PM |
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The more I learn about these bills, the more I feel like telling them to SHOVE IT. |
Doremus |
Oct-30-09 09:11 PM |
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Congresswoman Eshoo responds to Jane Hamsher |
ProSense |
Oct-30-09 11:22 PM |
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Bump |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Oct-31-09 09:07 AM |
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I'm sorry, but Hamsher is WRONG! Read the damn amendment! |
johnaries |
Oct-31-09 12:32 PM |
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Jane Hamsher responds and she is not WRONG. |
avaistheone1 |
Oct-31-09 05:30 PM |
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Direct FDL link... |
slipslidingaway |
Nov-01-09 01:05 AM |
#119 |
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DOW 10000, Pretty pictures, Iraq War is Over, Let Torturers Go Free |
mullard12ax7 |
Oct-31-09 12:55 PM |
#115 |
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