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  -For Pro-Choicers: Please explain to DU why abortion rights are important. Nikki Stone1  Oct-27-09 08:44 PM   #0 
  - Um... Choir? Preaching? nt  TheWraith   Oct-27-09 08:45 PM   #1 
  - You'd think so, but some DUers believe abortion is murder.  kiva   Oct-27-09 08:51 PM   #5 
  - Trolls  Alcibiades   Oct-27-09 09:40 PM   #15 
  - But support for abortion rights in general is decreasing.  Nikki Stone1   Oct-27-09 11:17 PM   #34 
  - So you're trying to purge liberals on a Michelle Bachmann-like witch hunt?  hokies   Oct-28-09 10:33 AM   #44 
  - No, not purge liberals. Purge conservatives from  tekisui   Oct-28-09 11:17 AM   #71 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-28-09 11:26 AM   #76 
        - I wish it were that easy.  tekisui   Oct-28-09 11:28 AM   #80 
  - But there are many of us who feel this issue is paramount!  hamsterjill   Oct-28-09 10:38 AM   #50 
  - A Lot Longer Than That  Zomby Woof   Oct-28-09 11:48 AM   #93 
  - Depends on how far along the pregnancy is  hokies   Oct-27-09 10:30 PM   #27 
  - Not sure what you are trying to say here.  Nikki Stone1   Oct-27-09 11:23 PM   #35 
  - How is terminating an 8-month pregnancy not murdering a fetus?  hokies   Oct-28-09 10:20 AM   #41 
     - You fail to recognize that there are medical reasons for late term abortions.  Lars39   Oct-28-09 10:36 AM   #48 
     - No he doesn't  SteelPenguin   Oct-28-09 10:41 AM   #53 
        - He didn't include health of the fetus.  Lars39   Oct-28-09 10:46 AM   #56 
           - he said etc  SteelPenguin   Oct-28-09 10:48 AM   #59 
              - Bottom line...it's still the woman's choice.  Lars39   Oct-28-09 10:51 AM   #60 
                 - I would say it depends  SteelPenguin   Oct-28-09 11:12 AM   #66 
                 - As a good "liberal" you can start by not equating abortion with murder.  Lars39   Oct-28-09 11:17 AM   #72 
                 - Is homicide better?  hokies   Oct-28-09 11:26 AM   #77 
                 - Or  SteelPenguin   Oct-28-09 11:51 AM   #94 
                    - I get bored with having to repeat myself.  Lars39   Oct-28-09 11:56 AM   #96 
                    - Bravo!  hokies   Oct-28-09 12:41 PM   #112 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-28-09 08:20 PM   #177 
                    - Please don't insult the poster  hokies   Oct-28-09 08:52 PM   #181 
                 - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-28-09 11:15 AM   #67 
     - Feticide is a creature of statute and does not follow the common law...  Hepburn   Oct-28-09 10:37 AM   #49 
     - Legally of course you're right  SteelPenguin   Oct-28-09 10:47 AM   #57 
     - Feeling wrong about abortion is a personal issue and has no place...  Hepburn   Oct-28-09 01:31 PM   #128 
     - If fetuses have 0 rights, then why aren't all abortions legal?  hokies   Oct-28-09 11:16 AM   #68 
     - Because of assholes who wish to stick their noses where they do not belong.  Hepburn   Oct-28-09 01:32 PM   #129 
     - I thought SCOTUS has said that fetal life  ctaylors6   Oct-28-09 11:39 AM   #89 
        - I do not agree with Roe v. Wade in regard to any fetal rights.  Hepburn   Oct-28-09 01:33 PM   #130 
           - Nothing else makes sense.  immoderate   Oct-28-09 02:56 PM   #154 
           - Because its a womans body.  bamacrat   Oct-29-09 12:44 AM   #208 
     - So you are fine with "murdering a fetus" because mommy was raped?  uppityperson   Oct-28-09 12:04 PM   #99 
     - I'm okay with it if the abortion is done before the fetus is developed to a certain point  hokies   Oct-28-09 12:42 PM   #113 
        - You're fine to a certain point, but don't know what that point is?  uppityperson   Oct-28-09 12:44 PM   #118 
           - Only ignorance allows one to claim to know it all  hokies   Oct-28-09 12:49 PM   #119 
              - You are ignorant about the morning-after-pill. Fail.  uppityperson   Oct-28-09 12:55 PM   #124 
              - Late term abortions are not the norm...and not done on a fucking whim.  PeaceNikki   Oct-28-09 02:33 PM   #145 
                 - Sorry, but I will stick my nose in this business  hokies   Oct-28-09 07:39 PM   #158 
                    - Your repeated ROFLing on this thread adds to your already high level of creepiness.  PeaceNikki   Oct-28-09 07:47 PM   #163 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-28-09 07:53 PM   #169 
                          - You make me want to go get an abortion.  PeaceNikki   Oct-28-09 07:55 PM   #172 
     - WTF is "abortion-on-demand"? That's such a fucking RW talking point.  PeaceNikki   Oct-28-09 02:25 PM   #144 
  - Depends upon how far your nose is stuck inside a woman's exam room  me b zola   Oct-27-09 11:43 PM   #36 
     - +1  Nikki Stone1   Oct-27-09 11:44 PM   #37 
     - Well, it STILL depends on how far along the pregnancy is  hokies   Oct-28-09 10:25 AM   #42 
     - the point being...  fascisthunter   Oct-28-09 11:05 AM   #63 
     - Have you looked at the statistcs on late-term abortions?  tekisui   Oct-28-09 11:26 AM   #78 
     - Where did I claim that late-term abortions are frequent?  hokies   Oct-28-09 11:29 AM   #82 
     - Where did I claim that late-term abortions are frequent?  hokies   Oct-28-09 11:31 AM   #84 
        - Are we debating the poltical realities or the moral jusifications?  tekisui   Oct-28-09 11:37 AM   #87 
           - Tough Shit.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Oct-28-09 11:41 AM   #90 
           - You and I disagree, not surprisingly.  tekisui   Oct-28-09 11:44 AM   #91 
              - Of Course... Because I'm Not An Irrational Zealot.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Oct-28-09 11:59 AM   #97 
                 - Tough shit?  tekisui   Oct-28-09 12:24 PM   #105 
                 - and the woman kills herself and the fetus due to depression? Yup, tough shit.  uppityperson   Oct-28-09 12:52 PM   #121 
                 - Extreme Much?  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Oct-28-09 02:47 PM   #151 
                    - Are you saying this never happens? That it is ludicrous to even mention this?  uppityperson   Oct-28-09 02:50 PM   #153 
                    - Why are you so angry?  hokies   Oct-28-09 07:47 PM   #164 
                       - Tata asshole troll. And THANKS MODS!!!  uppityperson   Oct-28-09 11:54 PM   #206 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-28-09 07:54 PM   #170 
                       - Ha! "fringe people"  PeaceNikki   Oct-28-09 07:57 PM   #173 
                 - It's the woman's decision  Amaya   Oct-28-09 01:58 PM   #139 
                    - Ummm, Under Those Conditions? No Dear, For The Most Part It's Not.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Oct-28-09 02:48 PM   #152 
                       - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-28-09 04:20 PM   #155 
           - The reason is because the fetus can survive outside the uterus at that point.  uppityperson   Oct-28-09 12:16 PM   #101 
              - For those late terms,  tekisui   Oct-28-09 12:27 PM   #106 
                 - I know, I agree. Unfortunately, those tiny few are what get people  uppityperson   Oct-28-09 12:31 PM   #107 
                    - As long as there are extremist on that end, I will hold to my position.  tekisui   Oct-28-09 12:34 PM   #108 
     - Your complete "Lengthier explantaion" is "obviously"? Your colors are showing  uppityperson   Oct-28-09 12:08 PM   #100 
        - My colors are showing? You're racist!  hokies   Oct-28-09 12:40 PM   #111 
     - +1,000....  Hepburn   Oct-28-09 10:39 AM   #51 
     - Why are you so emotional?  hokies   Oct-28-09 11:16 AM   #69 
        - you find death to be emotional and then laugh at that person  fascisthunter   Oct-28-09 12:01 PM   #98 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-28-09 12:43 PM   #116 
              - Bye, troll...  Hepburn   Oct-28-09 01:25 PM   #126 
              - +1  uppityperson   Oct-28-09 01:28 PM   #127 
              - +2  tekisui   Oct-28-09 01:41 PM   #133 
              - Purging liberals who aren't in favor of all late-term abortions?  hokies   Oct-28-09 07:40 PM   #159 
              - but, first ya might want to learn how to use spell-check  fascisthunter   Oct-28-09 01:41 PM   #134 
     - Over Reactive Much? Jeez...  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Oct-28-09 11:37 AM   #88 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-28-09 12:44 PM   #117 
        - I got under your skin  fascisthunter   Oct-28-09 01:43 PM   # 
           - As President Obama said about Fixed News  hokies   Oct-28-09 07:45 PM   #161 
     - Thanks for pointing  billh58   Oct-28-09 02:14 PM   #141 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-28-09 10:31 AM   #43 
     - Define the circumstances and the intent...  Hepburn   Oct-28-09 10:40 AM   #52 
        - So you agree that it's POSSIBLE for you to be in favor of two murder charges  hokies   Oct-28-09 11:28 AM   #81 
           - No....  Hepburn   Oct-28-09 01:24 PM   #125 
              - So you would NEVER be in favor of charging the murderer with two murders?  hokies   Oct-28-09 07:46 PM   #162 
  - The reason this thread is up is because DU is not as pro-choice as you'd think and  Nikki Stone1   Oct-27-09 09:31 PM   #12 
  - It is no one but a woman's decision what to do with her body.  tekisui   Oct-27-09 08:46 PM   #2 
  - +1,000,000,000  intheflow   Oct-28-09 12:39 PM   #110 
  - Is the fetus a growth on her body, like a cancer?  hokies   Oct-28-09 12:50 PM   #120 
  - Frankly, I see no difference.  Hepburn   Oct-28-09 01:38 PM   #131 
  - You just exposed yourself for what you truly are  hokies   Oct-28-09 07:49 PM   #165 
  - As far as you, as a male and an outsider are concerned----YES!  tekisui   Oct-28-09 01:40 PM   #132 
  - And just why  billh58   Oct-28-09 02:20 PM   #142 
  - No, but I'm in the habit of expressing my opinion about a subject matter  hokies   Oct-28-09 07:49 PM   #166 
     - Aha! Then that  billh58   Oct-28-09 08:20 PM   #178 
  - In a legal sense, it should be  JerseygirlCT   Oct-28-09 09:20 PM   #196 
  - thank you!!  dana_b   Oct-28-09 06:00 PM   #157 
  - Personal sovereignty. Dominion over one's own body.  sharesunited   Oct-27-09 08:48 PM   #3 
  - Personal sovereignty unless you want to sell your body for sex  Zywiec   Oct-28-09 10:47 AM   #58 
     - How do you figure that?  intheflow   Oct-28-09 12:43 PM   #114 
  - outlawing abortions does not reduce the number of abortions...only increases deaths  thunder rising   Oct-27-09 08:50 PM   #4 
  - well put. eom  uppityperson   Oct-27-09 08:52 PM   #6 
  - Because preganancy can be fatal  blogslut   Oct-27-09 08:54 PM   #7 
  - pregnancy often is fatal. pregnancy changes your body, always.  mopinko   Oct-28-09 07:17 AM   #40 
  - It is an insult even to present such a question to women.  joeycola   Oct-27-09 09:05 PM   #8 
  - An insult to ask someone to explain their position on an issue?  hokies   Oct-28-09 12:52 PM   #122 
     - A woman's body is not your body. You have no standing on your  tekisui   Oct-28-09 01:43 PM   #135 
  - A woman's private medical decisions are just that  JerseygirlCT   Oct-27-09 09:08 PM   #9 
  - It's a medical procedure that should be treated as such. n/t  ohheckyeah   Oct-27-09 09:20 PM   #10 
  - Freedom = Reproductive Freedom  iamjoy   Oct-27-09 09:29 PM   #11 
  - My grandma killed herself in the 50's, pregnant, depressed, 45 y.o.  LosinIt   Oct-27-09 09:33 PM   #13 
  - I think the Debate between Bush and Kerry summed it up  Johonny   Oct-27-09 09:34 PM   #14 
  - I had forgotten Kerry's argument  Nikki Stone1   Oct-27-09 09:41 PM   #16 
  - The reason they will not find common ground  Alcibiades   Oct-27-09 09:44 PM   #17 
  - Good arguments, but too wordy....  Wounded Bear   Oct-28-09 11:24 AM   #75 
  - Because we don't want the government to come between us and our  Cerridwen   Oct-27-09 09:45 PM   #18 
  - Because at the age of 12  AllentownJake   Oct-27-09 09:47 PM   #19 
  - I knew there was a reason I liked your mother.  Nikki Stone1   Oct-27-09 10:18 PM   #22 
  - Hi  AllentownJake   Oct-27-09 10:19 PM   #23 
     - I'll take one of those.  Nikki Stone1   Oct-27-09 10:27 PM   #25 
  - Mom was wrong. Abortion IS your fucking business, to make sure it stays legal and accessible  uppityperson   Oct-28-09 12:19 PM   #103 
  - It also is important for autonomy in medical decisionmaking  Alcibiades   Oct-27-09 10:16 PM   #20 
  - Because if a woman cannot...  peanut   Oct-27-09 10:18 PM   #21 
  - Im not a woman so its non of my Fucking business :) n/t  FreeState   Oct-27-09 10:25 PM   #24 
  - If you're not a soldier, is Afghanistan none of your business as well?  hokies   Oct-28-09 12:53 PM   #123 
     - Of cource it is Im an American  FreeState   Oct-28-09 02:36 PM   #147 
  - I am a Person not an Incubator /Bitch  EndersDame   Oct-27-09 10:28 PM   #26 
  - I don't think one cell with a sperm in it is a baby. And I don't know when that cell  Maraya1969   Oct-27-09 10:42 PM   #28 
  - I like your explanation.  Nikki Stone1   Oct-27-09 10:53 PM   #29 
  - Sam Harris' book "Letter to a Christian Nation"  hokies   Oct-28-09 09:02 PM   #187 
  - About 1/3 of middle-aged women in the U.S. have had an abortion  hokies   Oct-28-09 08:02 PM   #175 
     - Cite your stat.  PeaceNikki   Oct-28-09 08:24 PM   #179 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-28-09 08:51 PM   #180 
           - That says "33 per 1,000". So... yeah, math's not your thing, huh?  PeaceNikki   Oct-28-09 08:55 PM   #183 
              - Nope, your math is wrong  hokies   Oct-28-09 08:58 PM   #184 
              - Show me where you got your "1/3 of middle-aged women" stat. You can't.  PeaceNikki   Oct-28-09 09:02 PM   #186 
                 - Fine. 1/3 every year are abortions.  hokies   Oct-28-09 09:03 PM   #188 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-28-09 09:06 PM   #190 
                    - Southern Baptist, huh?  PeaceNikki   Oct-28-09 09:08 PM   #191 
                       - Apology accepted  hokies   Oct-28-09 09:12 PM   #192 
                          - Nice source, dude.  PeaceNikki   Oct-28-09 09:14 PM   #194 
                             - What about the wiki entry?  hokies   Oct-28-09 09:16 PM   #195 
                                - *crickets*, indeed, hokies. *crickets*, indeed.  PeaceNikki   Oct-28-09 10:02 PM   #199 
                                   - He's dead, Jim.  uppityperson   Oct-29-09 12:01 AM   #207 
              - D.C. actually has more abortions than live births  hokies   Oct-28-09 09:01 PM   #185 
  - Because it's no one's business  ellie   Oct-27-09 10:54 PM   #30 
  - Because if men could get pregnant  Bluenorthwest   Oct-27-09 10:59 PM   #31 
  - Twisted logic  hokies   Oct-28-09 10:34 AM   #46 
     - Why are you so emotional?  uppityperson   Oct-28-09 12:21 PM   #104 
        - Ummm, who said anything about PMS?  hokies   Oct-28-09 07:44 PM   #160 
  - The pro-life, punish abortion, side cheapens the value of life.  Festivito   Oct-27-09 11:07 PM   #32 
  - Interesting.  Nikki Stone1   Oct-27-09 11:11 PM   #33 
  - Because it's my body  ismnotwasm   Oct-27-09 11:50 PM   #38 
  - Because woman are living, breathing human beings  me b zola   Oct-27-09 11:58 PM   #39 
  - It is a matter of privacy....  Hepburn   Oct-28-09 10:34 AM   #45 
  - Big Brother should have ZERO say-so in determining the personal matters of women  Echo In Light   Oct-28-09 10:35 AM   #47 
  - I'm a gay man who, in all likelihood, will never meet you.  Sub Atomic   Oct-28-09 10:43 AM   #54 
  - Nor do I have a right to tell you what to do with yours.  Nikki Stone1   Oct-28-09 10:52 AM   #61 
  - late term abortions  newspeak   Oct-28-09 11:05 AM   #64 
  - abortion...let the pregnant decide  babydollhead   Oct-28-09 10:45 AM   #55 
  - A woman's or girl's body belongs to HER  Zomby Woof   Oct-28-09 11:02 AM   #62 
  - EASY ANSWER: It's Her Body and No One Else's  fascisthunter   Oct-28-09 11:07 AM   #65 
  - if only we applied that same belief to other things (nt)  The Straight Story   Oct-28-09 12:18 PM   #102 
  - The government has no place demanding a woman's body be used as a life support system  WeDidIt   Oct-28-09 11:16 AM   #70 
  - Exactly!  GoCubsGo   Oct-28-09 01:50 PM   #138 
  - What some other woman  TicketyBoo   Oct-28-09 11:22 AM   #73 
  - Right wing lawmakers are more concerned about the right to privacy affirmed  alfredo   Oct-28-09 11:23 AM   #74 
  - because the odds are you becoming a single mom working minimum wage.  Whisp   Oct-28-09 11:27 AM   #79 
  - I don't become second priority in my own body the second sperm meets egg. Period.  Lucy Goosey   Oct-28-09 11:30 AM   #83 
  - 1984, my beautiful wife-3rd trimester pregnant became full blown leukemic  dembotoz   Oct-28-09 11:31 AM   #85 
  - IMHO, it ain't about "women's rights." It's about HUMAN RIGHTS.  Wounded Bear   Oct-28-09 11:35 AM   #86 
  - Because you can't separate the uterus from the rest of the body n/t  MountainLaurel   Oct-28-09 11:48 AM   #92 
  - Bluntly speaking, women can't participate as full members of any society  tonysam   Oct-28-09 11:53 AM   #95 
  - The right wing uses the anti-choice movement to intimidate women.  KamaAina   Oct-28-09 12:37 PM   #109 
  - women are not incubators. if i'm forced to breed against my will, my other rights  Scout   Oct-28-09 12:43 PM   #115 
  - Slavery, even slavery to one's body, is repugnant.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Oct-28-09 01:43 PM   #136 
  - Because it's the law  mrmpa   Oct-28-09 01:47 PM   #137 
  - Because our bodies don't belong to the state, or to "God" - they belong to us, and us alone.  Warren DeMontague   Oct-28-09 02:00 PM   #140 
  - It's a decision between a woman and her doctor. Period.  PeaceNikki   Oct-28-09 02:24 PM   #143 
  - ALL anti-choice laws should be repealed  PeaceNikki   Oct-28-09 02:34 PM   #146 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-28-09 09:13 PM   #193 
     - Damn... that's quite a leap, Spartacus!  PeaceNikki   Oct-28-09 09:23 PM   #197 
  - because what I do with my body is some more of your damn business  la_chupa   Oct-28-09 02:37 PM   #148 
  - Aren't you cute?  PeaceNikki   Oct-28-09 02:40 PM   #149 
  - A child is not always a gift.  Codeine   Oct-28-09 02:44 PM   #150 
     - Especially if it is a pregnancy by a rapist or a molester  Nikki Stone1   Oct-28-09 05:50 PM   #156 
     - Hear hear  donheld   Oct-28-09 10:20 PM   #204 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-28-09 07:51 PM   #167 
  - You make me want to go get an abortion.  PeaceNikki   Oct-28-09 07:55 PM   #171 
  - Then go ahead  hokies   Oct-28-09 07:59 PM   #174 
  - Hey, at least you are upfront about it and don't sneak around.  Nikki Stone1   Oct-28-09 08:17 PM   #176 
     - Nothing personal  hokies   Oct-28-09 08:53 PM   #182 
        - It really wasn't meant to be flame bait, but my very name, these days, is bait  Nikki Stone1   Oct-28-09 09:52 PM   #198 
  - Because no one, no one, knows my life circumstances  tnlefty   Oct-28-09 07:51 PM   #168 
  - The editing time has expired....  tnlefty   Oct-28-09 10:12 PM   #200 
  - Being in control of your own reproduction.  Quantess   Oct-28-09 09:05 PM   #189 
  - For a less enlightened reason...overpopulation.  WonderGrunion   Oct-28-09 10:16 PM   #201 
  - Because women should have control over their own bodies.  roody   Oct-28-09 10:19 PM   #202 
  - Because if you're not my gyno or my partner my vagina is none of your fucking business.  LeftyMom   Oct-28-09 10:20 PM   #203 
  - + 1  Nikki Stone1   Oct-29-09 11:04 AM   #209 
  - It's best left to the mother and doctor  donheld   Oct-28-09 10:23 PM   #205 
 

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