| 93. A Lot Longer Than That |
| -For Pro-Choicers: Please explain to DU why abortion rights are important. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 08:44 PM |
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Um... Choir? Preaching? nt |
TheWraith |
Oct-27-09 08:45 PM |
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You'd think so, but some DUers believe abortion is murder. |
kiva |
Oct-27-09 08:51 PM |
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Trolls |
Alcibiades |
Oct-27-09 09:40 PM |
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But support for abortion rights in general is decreasing. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 11:17 PM |
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So you're trying to purge liberals on a Michelle Bachmann-like witch hunt? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 10:33 AM |
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No, not purge liberals. Purge conservatives from |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 11:17 AM |
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Oct-28-09 11:26 AM |
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I wish it were that easy. |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 11:28 AM |
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But there are many of us who feel this issue is paramount! |
hamsterjill |
Oct-28-09 10:38 AM |
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A Lot Longer Than That |
Zomby Woof |
Oct-28-09 11:48 AM |
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Depends on how far along the pregnancy is |
hokies |
Oct-27-09 10:30 PM |
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Not sure what you are trying to say here. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 11:23 PM |
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How is terminating an 8-month pregnancy not murdering a fetus? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 10:20 AM |
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You fail to recognize that there are medical reasons for late term abortions. |
Lars39 |
Oct-28-09 10:36 AM |
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No he doesn't |
SteelPenguin |
Oct-28-09 10:41 AM |
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He didn't include health of the fetus. |
Lars39 |
Oct-28-09 10:46 AM |
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he said etc |
SteelPenguin |
Oct-28-09 10:48 AM |
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Bottom line...it's still the woman's choice. |
Lars39 |
Oct-28-09 10:51 AM |
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I would say it depends |
SteelPenguin |
Oct-28-09 11:12 AM |
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As a good "liberal" you can start by not equating abortion with murder. |
Lars39 |
Oct-28-09 11:17 AM |
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Is homicide better? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 11:26 AM |
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Or |
SteelPenguin |
Oct-28-09 11:51 AM |
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I get bored with having to repeat myself. |
Lars39 |
Oct-28-09 11:56 AM |
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Bravo! |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 12:41 PM |
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Oct-28-09 08:20 PM |
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Please don't insult the poster |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 08:52 PM |
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Oct-28-09 11:15 AM |
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Feticide is a creature of statute and does not follow the common law... |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 10:37 AM |
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Legally of course you're right |
SteelPenguin |
Oct-28-09 10:47 AM |
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Feeling wrong about abortion is a personal issue and has no place... |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 01:31 PM |
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If fetuses have 0 rights, then why aren't all abortions legal? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 11:16 AM |
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Because of assholes who wish to stick their noses where they do not belong. |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 01:32 PM |
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I thought SCOTUS has said that fetal life |
ctaylors6 |
Oct-28-09 11:39 AM |
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I do not agree with Roe v. Wade in regard to any fetal rights. |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 01:33 PM |
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Nothing else makes sense. |
immoderate |
Oct-28-09 02:56 PM |
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Because its a womans body. |
bamacrat |
Oct-29-09 12:44 AM |
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So you are fine with "murdering a fetus" because mommy was raped? |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 12:04 PM |
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I'm okay with it if the abortion is done before the fetus is developed to a certain point |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 12:42 PM |
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You're fine to a certain point, but don't know what that point is? |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 12:44 PM |
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Only ignorance allows one to claim to know it all |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 12:49 PM |
#119 |
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You are ignorant about the morning-after-pill. Fail. |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 12:55 PM |
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Late term abortions are not the norm...and not done on a fucking whim. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 02:33 PM |
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Sorry, but I will stick my nose in this business |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 07:39 PM |
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Your repeated ROFLing on this thread adds to your already high level of creepiness. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 07:47 PM |
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Oct-28-09 07:53 PM |
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You make me want to go get an abortion. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 07:55 PM |
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WTF is "abortion-on-demand"? That's such a fucking RW talking point. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 02:25 PM |
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Depends upon how far your nose is stuck inside a woman's exam room |
me b zola |
Oct-27-09 11:43 PM |
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+1 |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 11:44 PM |
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Well, it STILL depends on how far along the pregnancy is |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 10:25 AM |
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the point being... |
fascisthunter |
Oct-28-09 11:05 AM |
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Have you looked at the statistcs on late-term abortions? |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 11:26 AM |
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Where did I claim that late-term abortions are frequent? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 11:29 AM |
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Where did I claim that late-term abortions are frequent? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 11:31 AM |
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Are we debating the poltical realities or the moral jusifications? |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 11:37 AM |
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Tough Shit. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Oct-28-09 11:41 AM |
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You and I disagree, not surprisingly. |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 11:44 AM |
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Of Course... Because I'm Not An Irrational Zealot. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Oct-28-09 11:59 AM |
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Tough shit? |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 12:24 PM |
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and the woman kills herself and the fetus due to depression? Yup, tough shit. |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 12:52 PM |
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Extreme Much? |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Oct-28-09 02:47 PM |
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Are you saying this never happens? That it is ludicrous to even mention this? |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 02:50 PM |
#153 |
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Why are you so angry? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 07:47 PM |
#164 |
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Tata asshole troll. And THANKS MODS!!! |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 11:54 PM |
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Oct-28-09 07:54 PM |
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Ha! "fringe people" |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 07:57 PM |
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It's the woman's decision |
Amaya |
Oct-28-09 01:58 PM |
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Ummm, Under Those Conditions? No Dear, For The Most Part It's Not. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Oct-28-09 02:48 PM |
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Oct-28-09 04:20 PM |
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The reason is because the fetus can survive outside the uterus at that point. |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 12:16 PM |
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For those late terms, |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 12:27 PM |
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I know, I agree. Unfortunately, those tiny few are what get people |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 12:31 PM |
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As long as there are extremist on that end, I will hold to my position. |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 12:34 PM |
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Your complete "Lengthier explantaion" is "obviously"? Your colors are showing |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 12:08 PM |
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My colors are showing? You're racist! |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 12:40 PM |
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+1,000.... |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 10:39 AM |
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Why are you so emotional? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 11:16 AM |
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you find death to be emotional and then laugh at that person |
fascisthunter |
Oct-28-09 12:01 PM |
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Oct-28-09 12:43 PM |
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Bye, troll... |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 01:25 PM |
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+1 |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 01:28 PM |
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+2 |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 01:41 PM |
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Purging liberals who aren't in favor of all late-term abortions? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 07:40 PM |
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but, first ya might want to learn how to use spell-check |
fascisthunter |
Oct-28-09 01:41 PM |
#134 |
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Over Reactive Much? Jeez... |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Oct-28-09 11:37 AM |
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Oct-28-09 12:44 PM |
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I got under your skin |
fascisthunter |
Oct-28-09 01:43 PM |
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As President Obama said about Fixed News |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 07:45 PM |
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Thanks for pointing |
billh58 |
Oct-28-09 02:14 PM |
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Oct-28-09 10:31 AM |
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Define the circumstances and the intent... |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 10:40 AM |
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So you agree that it's POSSIBLE for you to be in favor of two murder charges |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 11:28 AM |
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No.... |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 01:24 PM |
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So you would NEVER be in favor of charging the murderer with two murders? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 07:46 PM |
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The reason this thread is up is because DU is not as pro-choice as you'd think and |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 09:31 PM |
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It is no one but a woman's decision what to do with her body. |
tekisui |
Oct-27-09 08:46 PM |
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+1,000,000,000 |
intheflow |
Oct-28-09 12:39 PM |
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Is the fetus a growth on her body, like a cancer? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 12:50 PM |
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Frankly, I see no difference. |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 01:38 PM |
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You just exposed yourself for what you truly are |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 07:49 PM |
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As far as you, as a male and an outsider are concerned----YES! |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 01:40 PM |
#132 |
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And just why |
billh58 |
Oct-28-09 02:20 PM |
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No, but I'm in the habit of expressing my opinion about a subject matter |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 07:49 PM |
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Aha! Then that |
billh58 |
Oct-28-09 08:20 PM |
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In a legal sense, it should be |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-28-09 09:20 PM |
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thank you!! |
dana_b |
Oct-28-09 06:00 PM |
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Personal sovereignty. Dominion over one's own body. |
sharesunited |
Oct-27-09 08:48 PM |
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Personal sovereignty unless you want to sell your body for sex |
Zywiec |
Oct-28-09 10:47 AM |
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How do you figure that? |
intheflow |
Oct-28-09 12:43 PM |
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outlawing abortions does not reduce the number of abortions...only increases deaths |
thunder rising |
Oct-27-09 08:50 PM |
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well put. eom |
uppityperson |
Oct-27-09 08:52 PM |
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Because preganancy can be fatal |
blogslut |
Oct-27-09 08:54 PM |
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pregnancy often is fatal. pregnancy changes your body, always. |
mopinko |
Oct-28-09 07:17 AM |
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It is an insult even to present such a question to women. |
joeycola |
Oct-27-09 09:05 PM |
#8 |
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An insult to ask someone to explain their position on an issue? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 12:52 PM |
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A woman's body is not your body. You have no standing on your |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 01:43 PM |
#135 |
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A woman's private medical decisions are just that |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-27-09 09:08 PM |
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It's a medical procedure that should be treated as such. n/t |
ohheckyeah |
Oct-27-09 09:20 PM |
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Freedom = Reproductive Freedom |
iamjoy |
Oct-27-09 09:29 PM |
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My grandma killed herself in the 50's, pregnant, depressed, 45 y.o. |
LosinIt |
Oct-27-09 09:33 PM |
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I think the Debate between Bush and Kerry summed it up |
Johonny |
Oct-27-09 09:34 PM |
#14 |
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I had forgotten Kerry's argument |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 09:41 PM |
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The reason they will not find common ground |
Alcibiades |
Oct-27-09 09:44 PM |
#17 |
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Good arguments, but too wordy.... |
Wounded Bear |
Oct-28-09 11:24 AM |
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Because we don't want the government to come between us and our |
Cerridwen |
Oct-27-09 09:45 PM |
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Because at the age of 12 |
AllentownJake |
Oct-27-09 09:47 PM |
#19 |
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I knew there was a reason I liked your mother. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 10:18 PM |
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Hi |
AllentownJake |
Oct-27-09 10:19 PM |
#23 |
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I'll take one of those. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 10:27 PM |
#25 |
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Mom was wrong. Abortion IS your fucking business, to make sure it stays legal and accessible |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 12:19 PM |
#103 |
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It also is important for autonomy in medical decisionmaking |
Alcibiades |
Oct-27-09 10:16 PM |
#20 |
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Because if a woman cannot... |
peanut |
Oct-27-09 10:18 PM |
#21 |
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Im not a woman so its non of my Fucking business :) n/t |
FreeState |
Oct-27-09 10:25 PM |
#24 |
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If you're not a soldier, is Afghanistan none of your business as well? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 12:53 PM |
#123 |
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Of cource it is Im an American |
FreeState |
Oct-28-09 02:36 PM |
#147 |
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I am a Person not an Incubator /Bitch |
EndersDame |
Oct-27-09 10:28 PM |
#26 |
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I don't think one cell with a sperm in it is a baby. And I don't know when that cell |
Maraya1969 |
Oct-27-09 10:42 PM |
#28 |
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I like your explanation. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 10:53 PM |
#29 |
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Sam Harris' book "Letter to a Christian Nation" |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 09:02 PM |
#187 |
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About 1/3 of middle-aged women in the U.S. have had an abortion |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 08:02 PM |
#175 |
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Cite your stat. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 08:24 PM |
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Oct-28-09 08:51 PM |
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That says "33 per 1,000". So... yeah, math's not your thing, huh? |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 08:55 PM |
#183 |
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Nope, your math is wrong |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 08:58 PM |
#184 |
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Show me where you got your "1/3 of middle-aged women" stat. You can't. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 09:02 PM |
#186 |
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Fine. 1/3 every year are abortions. |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 09:03 PM |
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Oct-28-09 09:06 PM |
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Southern Baptist, huh? |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 09:08 PM |
#191 |
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Apology accepted |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 09:12 PM |
#192 |
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Nice source, dude. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 09:14 PM |
#194 |
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What about the wiki entry? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 09:16 PM |
#195 |
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*crickets*, indeed, hokies. *crickets*, indeed. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 10:02 PM |
#199 |
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He's dead, Jim. |
uppityperson |
Oct-29-09 12:01 AM |
#207 |
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D.C. actually has more abortions than live births |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 09:01 PM |
#185 |
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Because it's no one's business |
ellie |
Oct-27-09 10:54 PM |
#30 |
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Because if men could get pregnant |
Bluenorthwest |
Oct-27-09 10:59 PM |
#31 |
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Twisted logic |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 10:34 AM |
#46 |
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Why are you so emotional? |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 12:21 PM |
#104 |
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Ummm, who said anything about PMS? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 07:44 PM |
#160 |
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The pro-life, punish abortion, side cheapens the value of life. |
Festivito |
Oct-27-09 11:07 PM |
#32 |
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Interesting. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 11:11 PM |
#33 |
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Because it's my body |
ismnotwasm |
Oct-27-09 11:50 PM |
#38 |
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Because woman are living, breathing human beings |
me b zola |
Oct-27-09 11:58 PM |
#39 |
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It is a matter of privacy.... |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 10:34 AM |
#45 |
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Big Brother should have ZERO say-so in determining the personal matters of women |
Echo In Light |
Oct-28-09 10:35 AM |
#47 |
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I'm a gay man who, in all likelihood, will never meet you. |
Sub Atomic |
Oct-28-09 10:43 AM |
#54 |
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Nor do I have a right to tell you what to do with yours. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-28-09 10:52 AM |
#61 |
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late term abortions |
newspeak |
Oct-28-09 11:05 AM |
#64 |
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abortion...let the pregnant decide |
babydollhead |
Oct-28-09 10:45 AM |
#55 |
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A woman's or girl's body belongs to HER |
Zomby Woof |
Oct-28-09 11:02 AM |
#62 |
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EASY ANSWER: It's Her Body and No One Else's |
fascisthunter |
Oct-28-09 11:07 AM |
#65 |
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if only we applied that same belief to other things (nt) |
The Straight Story |
Oct-28-09 12:18 PM |
#102 |
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The government has no place demanding a woman's body be used as a life support system |
WeDidIt |
Oct-28-09 11:16 AM |
#70 |
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Exactly! |
GoCubsGo |
Oct-28-09 01:50 PM |
#138 |
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What some other woman |
TicketyBoo |
Oct-28-09 11:22 AM |
#73 |
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Right wing lawmakers are more concerned about the right to privacy affirmed |
alfredo |
Oct-28-09 11:23 AM |
#74 |
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because the odds are you becoming a single mom working minimum wage. |
Whisp |
Oct-28-09 11:27 AM |
#79 |
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I don't become second priority in my own body the second sperm meets egg. Period. |
Lucy Goosey |
Oct-28-09 11:30 AM |
#83 |
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1984, my beautiful wife-3rd trimester pregnant became full blown leukemic |
dembotoz |
Oct-28-09 11:31 AM |
#85 |
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IMHO, it ain't about "women's rights." It's about HUMAN RIGHTS. |
Wounded Bear |
Oct-28-09 11:35 AM |
#86 |
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Because you can't separate the uterus from the rest of the body n/t |
MountainLaurel |
Oct-28-09 11:48 AM |
#92 |
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Bluntly speaking, women can't participate as full members of any society |
tonysam |
Oct-28-09 11:53 AM |
#95 |
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The right wing uses the anti-choice movement to intimidate women. |
KamaAina |
Oct-28-09 12:37 PM |
#109 |
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women are not incubators. if i'm forced to breed against my will, my other rights |
Scout |
Oct-28-09 12:43 PM |
#115 |
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Slavery, even slavery to one's body, is repugnant. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Oct-28-09 01:43 PM |
#136 |
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Because it's the law |
mrmpa |
Oct-28-09 01:47 PM |
#137 |
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Because our bodies don't belong to the state, or to "God" - they belong to us, and us alone. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-28-09 02:00 PM |
#140 |
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It's a decision between a woman and her doctor. Period. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 02:24 PM |
#143 |
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ALL anti-choice laws should be repealed |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 02:34 PM |
#146 |
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Oct-28-09 09:13 PM |
#193 |
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Damn... that's quite a leap, Spartacus! |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 09:23 PM |
#197 |
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because what I do with my body is some more of your damn business |
la_chupa |
Oct-28-09 02:37 PM |
#148 |
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Aren't you cute? |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 02:40 PM |
#149 |
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A child is not always a gift. |
Codeine |
Oct-28-09 02:44 PM |
#150 |
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Especially if it is a pregnancy by a rapist or a molester |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-28-09 05:50 PM |
#156 |
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Hear hear |
donheld |
Oct-28-09 10:20 PM |
#204 |
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Oct-28-09 07:51 PM |
#167 |
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You make me want to go get an abortion. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 07:55 PM |
#171 |
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Then go ahead |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 07:59 PM |
#174 |
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Hey, at least you are upfront about it and don't sneak around. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-28-09 08:17 PM |
#176 |
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Nothing personal |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 08:53 PM |
#182 |
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It really wasn't meant to be flame bait, but my very name, these days, is bait |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-28-09 09:52 PM |
#198 |
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Because no one, no one, knows my life circumstances |
tnlefty |
Oct-28-09 07:51 PM |
#168 |
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The editing time has expired.... |
tnlefty |
Oct-28-09 10:12 PM |
#200 |
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Being in control of your own reproduction. |
Quantess |
Oct-28-09 09:05 PM |
#189 |
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For a less enlightened reason...overpopulation. |
WonderGrunion |
Oct-28-09 10:16 PM |
#201 |
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Because women should have control over their own bodies. |
roody |
Oct-28-09 10:19 PM |
#202 |
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Because if you're not my gyno or my partner my vagina is none of your fucking business. |
LeftyMom |
Oct-28-09 10:20 PM |
#203 |
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+ 1 |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-29-09 11:04 AM |
#209 |
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It's best left to the mother and doctor |
donheld |
Oct-28-09 10:23 PM |
#205 |
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