| 55. abortion...let the pregnant decide |
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for women who are being sexually molested
for women who do not know that fucking makes babies
for women who endure what we cannot imagine
for women who do not want to have a baby
the choice is theirs will always be theirs.
abortions will always happen, and they must be legal and safe.
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| -For Pro-Choicers: Please explain to DU why abortion rights are important. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 08:44 PM |
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Um... Choir? Preaching? nt |
TheWraith |
Oct-27-09 08:45 PM |
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You'd think so, but some DUers believe abortion is murder. |
kiva |
Oct-27-09 08:51 PM |
#5 |
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Trolls |
Alcibiades |
Oct-27-09 09:40 PM |
#15 |
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But support for abortion rights in general is decreasing. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 11:17 PM |
#34 |
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So you're trying to purge liberals on a Michelle Bachmann-like witch hunt? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 10:33 AM |
#44 |
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No, not purge liberals. Purge conservatives from |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 11:17 AM |
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Oct-28-09 11:26 AM |
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I wish it were that easy. |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 11:28 AM |
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But there are many of us who feel this issue is paramount! |
hamsterjill |
Oct-28-09 10:38 AM |
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A Lot Longer Than That |
Zomby Woof |
Oct-28-09 11:48 AM |
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Depends on how far along the pregnancy is |
hokies |
Oct-27-09 10:30 PM |
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Not sure what you are trying to say here. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 11:23 PM |
#35 |
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How is terminating an 8-month pregnancy not murdering a fetus? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 10:20 AM |
#41 |
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You fail to recognize that there are medical reasons for late term abortions. |
Lars39 |
Oct-28-09 10:36 AM |
#48 |
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No he doesn't |
SteelPenguin |
Oct-28-09 10:41 AM |
#53 |
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He didn't include health of the fetus. |
Lars39 |
Oct-28-09 10:46 AM |
#56 |
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he said etc |
SteelPenguin |
Oct-28-09 10:48 AM |
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Bottom line...it's still the woman's choice. |
Lars39 |
Oct-28-09 10:51 AM |
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I would say it depends |
SteelPenguin |
Oct-28-09 11:12 AM |
#66 |
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As a good "liberal" you can start by not equating abortion with murder. |
Lars39 |
Oct-28-09 11:17 AM |
#72 |
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Is homicide better? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 11:26 AM |
#77 |
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Or |
SteelPenguin |
Oct-28-09 11:51 AM |
#94 |
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I get bored with having to repeat myself. |
Lars39 |
Oct-28-09 11:56 AM |
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Bravo! |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 12:41 PM |
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Oct-28-09 08:20 PM |
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Please don't insult the poster |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 08:52 PM |
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Oct-28-09 11:15 AM |
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Feticide is a creature of statute and does not follow the common law... |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 10:37 AM |
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Legally of course you're right |
SteelPenguin |
Oct-28-09 10:47 AM |
#57 |
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Feeling wrong about abortion is a personal issue and has no place... |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 01:31 PM |
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If fetuses have 0 rights, then why aren't all abortions legal? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 11:16 AM |
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Because of assholes who wish to stick their noses where they do not belong. |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 01:32 PM |
#129 |
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I thought SCOTUS has said that fetal life |
ctaylors6 |
Oct-28-09 11:39 AM |
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I do not agree with Roe v. Wade in regard to any fetal rights. |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 01:33 PM |
#130 |
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Nothing else makes sense. |
immoderate |
Oct-28-09 02:56 PM |
#154 |
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Because its a womans body. |
bamacrat |
Oct-29-09 12:44 AM |
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So you are fine with "murdering a fetus" because mommy was raped? |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 12:04 PM |
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I'm okay with it if the abortion is done before the fetus is developed to a certain point |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 12:42 PM |
#113 |
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You're fine to a certain point, but don't know what that point is? |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 12:44 PM |
#118 |
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Only ignorance allows one to claim to know it all |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 12:49 PM |
#119 |
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You are ignorant about the morning-after-pill. Fail. |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 12:55 PM |
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Late term abortions are not the norm...and not done on a fucking whim. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 02:33 PM |
#145 |
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Sorry, but I will stick my nose in this business |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 07:39 PM |
#158 |
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Your repeated ROFLing on this thread adds to your already high level of creepiness. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 07:47 PM |
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Oct-28-09 07:53 PM |
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You make me want to go get an abortion. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 07:55 PM |
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WTF is "abortion-on-demand"? That's such a fucking RW talking point. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 02:25 PM |
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Depends upon how far your nose is stuck inside a woman's exam room |
me b zola |
Oct-27-09 11:43 PM |
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+1 |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 11:44 PM |
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Well, it STILL depends on how far along the pregnancy is |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 10:25 AM |
#42 |
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the point being... |
fascisthunter |
Oct-28-09 11:05 AM |
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Have you looked at the statistcs on late-term abortions? |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 11:26 AM |
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Where did I claim that late-term abortions are frequent? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 11:29 AM |
#82 |
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Where did I claim that late-term abortions are frequent? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 11:31 AM |
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Are we debating the poltical realities or the moral jusifications? |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 11:37 AM |
#87 |
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Tough Shit. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Oct-28-09 11:41 AM |
#90 |
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You and I disagree, not surprisingly. |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 11:44 AM |
#91 |
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Of Course... Because I'm Not An Irrational Zealot. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Oct-28-09 11:59 AM |
#97 |
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Tough shit? |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 12:24 PM |
#105 |
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and the woman kills herself and the fetus due to depression? Yup, tough shit. |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 12:52 PM |
#121 |
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Extreme Much? |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Oct-28-09 02:47 PM |
#151 |
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Are you saying this never happens? That it is ludicrous to even mention this? |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 02:50 PM |
#153 |
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Why are you so angry? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 07:47 PM |
#164 |
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Tata asshole troll. And THANKS MODS!!! |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 11:54 PM |
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Oct-28-09 07:54 PM |
#170 |
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Ha! "fringe people" |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 07:57 PM |
#173 |
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It's the woman's decision |
Amaya |
Oct-28-09 01:58 PM |
#139 |
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Ummm, Under Those Conditions? No Dear, For The Most Part It's Not. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Oct-28-09 02:48 PM |
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Oct-28-09 04:20 PM |
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The reason is because the fetus can survive outside the uterus at that point. |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 12:16 PM |
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For those late terms, |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 12:27 PM |
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I know, I agree. Unfortunately, those tiny few are what get people |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 12:31 PM |
#107 |
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As long as there are extremist on that end, I will hold to my position. |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 12:34 PM |
#108 |
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Your complete "Lengthier explantaion" is "obviously"? Your colors are showing |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 12:08 PM |
#100 |
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My colors are showing? You're racist! |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 12:40 PM |
#111 |
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+1,000.... |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 10:39 AM |
#51 |
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Why are you so emotional? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 11:16 AM |
#69 |
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you find death to be emotional and then laugh at that person |
fascisthunter |
Oct-28-09 12:01 PM |
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Oct-28-09 12:43 PM |
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Bye, troll... |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 01:25 PM |
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+1 |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 01:28 PM |
#127 |
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+2 |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 01:41 PM |
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Purging liberals who aren't in favor of all late-term abortions? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 07:40 PM |
#159 |
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but, first ya might want to learn how to use spell-check |
fascisthunter |
Oct-28-09 01:41 PM |
#134 |
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Over Reactive Much? Jeez... |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Oct-28-09 11:37 AM |
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Oct-28-09 12:44 PM |
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I got under your skin |
fascisthunter |
Oct-28-09 01:43 PM |
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As President Obama said about Fixed News |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 07:45 PM |
#161 |
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Thanks for pointing |
billh58 |
Oct-28-09 02:14 PM |
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Oct-28-09 10:31 AM |
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Define the circumstances and the intent... |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 10:40 AM |
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So you agree that it's POSSIBLE for you to be in favor of two murder charges |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 11:28 AM |
#81 |
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No.... |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 01:24 PM |
#125 |
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So you would NEVER be in favor of charging the murderer with two murders? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 07:46 PM |
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The reason this thread is up is because DU is not as pro-choice as you'd think and |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 09:31 PM |
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It is no one but a woman's decision what to do with her body. |
tekisui |
Oct-27-09 08:46 PM |
#2 |
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+1,000,000,000 |
intheflow |
Oct-28-09 12:39 PM |
#110 |
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Is the fetus a growth on her body, like a cancer? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 12:50 PM |
#120 |
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Frankly, I see no difference. |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 01:38 PM |
#131 |
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You just exposed yourself for what you truly are |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 07:49 PM |
#165 |
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As far as you, as a male and an outsider are concerned----YES! |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 01:40 PM |
#132 |
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And just why |
billh58 |
Oct-28-09 02:20 PM |
#142 |
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No, but I'm in the habit of expressing my opinion about a subject matter |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 07:49 PM |
#166 |
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Aha! Then that |
billh58 |
Oct-28-09 08:20 PM |
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In a legal sense, it should be |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-28-09 09:20 PM |
#196 |
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thank you!! |
dana_b |
Oct-28-09 06:00 PM |
#157 |
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Personal sovereignty. Dominion over one's own body. |
sharesunited |
Oct-27-09 08:48 PM |
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Personal sovereignty unless you want to sell your body for sex |
Zywiec |
Oct-28-09 10:47 AM |
#58 |
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How do you figure that? |
intheflow |
Oct-28-09 12:43 PM |
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outlawing abortions does not reduce the number of abortions...only increases deaths |
thunder rising |
Oct-27-09 08:50 PM |
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well put. eom |
uppityperson |
Oct-27-09 08:52 PM |
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Because preganancy can be fatal |
blogslut |
Oct-27-09 08:54 PM |
#7 |
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pregnancy often is fatal. pregnancy changes your body, always. |
mopinko |
Oct-28-09 07:17 AM |
#40 |
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It is an insult even to present such a question to women. |
joeycola |
Oct-27-09 09:05 PM |
#8 |
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An insult to ask someone to explain their position on an issue? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 12:52 PM |
#122 |
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A woman's body is not your body. You have no standing on your |
tekisui |
Oct-28-09 01:43 PM |
#135 |
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A woman's private medical decisions are just that |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-27-09 09:08 PM |
#9 |
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It's a medical procedure that should be treated as such. n/t |
ohheckyeah |
Oct-27-09 09:20 PM |
#10 |
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Freedom = Reproductive Freedom |
iamjoy |
Oct-27-09 09:29 PM |
#11 |
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My grandma killed herself in the 50's, pregnant, depressed, 45 y.o. |
LosinIt |
Oct-27-09 09:33 PM |
#13 |
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I think the Debate between Bush and Kerry summed it up |
Johonny |
Oct-27-09 09:34 PM |
#14 |
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I had forgotten Kerry's argument |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 09:41 PM |
#16 |
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The reason they will not find common ground |
Alcibiades |
Oct-27-09 09:44 PM |
#17 |
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Good arguments, but too wordy.... |
Wounded Bear |
Oct-28-09 11:24 AM |
#75 |
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Because we don't want the government to come between us and our |
Cerridwen |
Oct-27-09 09:45 PM |
#18 |
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Because at the age of 12 |
AllentownJake |
Oct-27-09 09:47 PM |
#19 |
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I knew there was a reason I liked your mother. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 10:18 PM |
#22 |
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Hi |
AllentownJake |
Oct-27-09 10:19 PM |
#23 |
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I'll take one of those. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 10:27 PM |
#25 |
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Mom was wrong. Abortion IS your fucking business, to make sure it stays legal and accessible |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 12:19 PM |
#103 |
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It also is important for autonomy in medical decisionmaking |
Alcibiades |
Oct-27-09 10:16 PM |
#20 |
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Because if a woman cannot... |
peanut |
Oct-27-09 10:18 PM |
#21 |
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Im not a woman so its non of my Fucking business :) n/t |
FreeState |
Oct-27-09 10:25 PM |
#24 |
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If you're not a soldier, is Afghanistan none of your business as well? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 12:53 PM |
#123 |
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Of cource it is Im an American |
FreeState |
Oct-28-09 02:36 PM |
#147 |
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I am a Person not an Incubator /Bitch |
EndersDame |
Oct-27-09 10:28 PM |
#26 |
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I don't think one cell with a sperm in it is a baby. And I don't know when that cell |
Maraya1969 |
Oct-27-09 10:42 PM |
#28 |
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I like your explanation. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 10:53 PM |
#29 |
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Sam Harris' book "Letter to a Christian Nation" |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 09:02 PM |
#187 |
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About 1/3 of middle-aged women in the U.S. have had an abortion |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 08:02 PM |
#175 |
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Cite your stat. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 08:24 PM |
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Oct-28-09 08:51 PM |
#180 |
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That says "33 per 1,000". So... yeah, math's not your thing, huh? |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 08:55 PM |
#183 |
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Nope, your math is wrong |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 08:58 PM |
#184 |
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Show me where you got your "1/3 of middle-aged women" stat. You can't. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 09:02 PM |
#186 |
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Fine. 1/3 every year are abortions. |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 09:03 PM |
#188 |
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Oct-28-09 09:06 PM |
#190 |
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Southern Baptist, huh? |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 09:08 PM |
#191 |
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Apology accepted |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 09:12 PM |
#192 |
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Nice source, dude. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 09:14 PM |
#194 |
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What about the wiki entry? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 09:16 PM |
#195 |
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*crickets*, indeed, hokies. *crickets*, indeed. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 10:02 PM |
#199 |
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He's dead, Jim. |
uppityperson |
Oct-29-09 12:01 AM |
#207 |
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D.C. actually has more abortions than live births |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 09:01 PM |
#185 |
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Because it's no one's business |
ellie |
Oct-27-09 10:54 PM |
#30 |
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Because if men could get pregnant |
Bluenorthwest |
Oct-27-09 10:59 PM |
#31 |
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Twisted logic |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 10:34 AM |
#46 |
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Why are you so emotional? |
uppityperson |
Oct-28-09 12:21 PM |
#104 |
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Ummm, who said anything about PMS? |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 07:44 PM |
#160 |
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The pro-life, punish abortion, side cheapens the value of life. |
Festivito |
Oct-27-09 11:07 PM |
#32 |
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Interesting. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-27-09 11:11 PM |
#33 |
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Because it's my body |
ismnotwasm |
Oct-27-09 11:50 PM |
#38 |
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Because woman are living, breathing human beings |
me b zola |
Oct-27-09 11:58 PM |
#39 |
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It is a matter of privacy.... |
Hepburn |
Oct-28-09 10:34 AM |
#45 |
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Big Brother should have ZERO say-so in determining the personal matters of women |
Echo In Light |
Oct-28-09 10:35 AM |
#47 |
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I'm a gay man who, in all likelihood, will never meet you. |
Sub Atomic |
Oct-28-09 10:43 AM |
#54 |
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Nor do I have a right to tell you what to do with yours. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-28-09 10:52 AM |
#61 |
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late term abortions |
newspeak |
Oct-28-09 11:05 AM |
#64 |
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abortion...let the pregnant decide |
babydollhead |
Oct-28-09 10:45 AM |
#55 |
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A woman's or girl's body belongs to HER |
Zomby Woof |
Oct-28-09 11:02 AM |
#62 |
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EASY ANSWER: It's Her Body and No One Else's |
fascisthunter |
Oct-28-09 11:07 AM |
#65 |
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if only we applied that same belief to other things (nt) |
The Straight Story |
Oct-28-09 12:18 PM |
#102 |
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The government has no place demanding a woman's body be used as a life support system |
WeDidIt |
Oct-28-09 11:16 AM |
#70 |
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Exactly! |
GoCubsGo |
Oct-28-09 01:50 PM |
#138 |
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What some other woman |
TicketyBoo |
Oct-28-09 11:22 AM |
#73 |
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Right wing lawmakers are more concerned about the right to privacy affirmed |
alfredo |
Oct-28-09 11:23 AM |
#74 |
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because the odds are you becoming a single mom working minimum wage. |
Whisp |
Oct-28-09 11:27 AM |
#79 |
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I don't become second priority in my own body the second sperm meets egg. Period. |
Lucy Goosey |
Oct-28-09 11:30 AM |
#83 |
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1984, my beautiful wife-3rd trimester pregnant became full blown leukemic |
dembotoz |
Oct-28-09 11:31 AM |
#85 |
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IMHO, it ain't about "women's rights." It's about HUMAN RIGHTS. |
Wounded Bear |
Oct-28-09 11:35 AM |
#86 |
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Because you can't separate the uterus from the rest of the body n/t |
MountainLaurel |
Oct-28-09 11:48 AM |
#92 |
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Bluntly speaking, women can't participate as full members of any society |
tonysam |
Oct-28-09 11:53 AM |
#95 |
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The right wing uses the anti-choice movement to intimidate women. |
KamaAina |
Oct-28-09 12:37 PM |
#109 |
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women are not incubators. if i'm forced to breed against my will, my other rights |
Scout |
Oct-28-09 12:43 PM |
#115 |
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Slavery, even slavery to one's body, is repugnant. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Oct-28-09 01:43 PM |
#136 |
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Because it's the law |
mrmpa |
Oct-28-09 01:47 PM |
#137 |
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Because our bodies don't belong to the state, or to "God" - they belong to us, and us alone. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-28-09 02:00 PM |
#140 |
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It's a decision between a woman and her doctor. Period. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 02:24 PM |
#143 |
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ALL anti-choice laws should be repealed |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 02:34 PM |
#146 |
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Oct-28-09 09:13 PM |
#193 |
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Damn... that's quite a leap, Spartacus! |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 09:23 PM |
#197 |
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because what I do with my body is some more of your damn business |
la_chupa |
Oct-28-09 02:37 PM |
#148 |
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Aren't you cute? |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 02:40 PM |
#149 |
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A child is not always a gift. |
Codeine |
Oct-28-09 02:44 PM |
#150 |
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Especially if it is a pregnancy by a rapist or a molester |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-28-09 05:50 PM |
#156 |
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Hear hear |
donheld |
Oct-28-09 10:20 PM |
#204 |
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Oct-28-09 07:51 PM |
#167 |
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You make me want to go get an abortion. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-28-09 07:55 PM |
#171 |
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Then go ahead |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 07:59 PM |
#174 |
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Hey, at least you are upfront about it and don't sneak around. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-28-09 08:17 PM |
#176 |
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Nothing personal |
hokies |
Oct-28-09 08:53 PM |
#182 |
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It really wasn't meant to be flame bait, but my very name, these days, is bait |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-28-09 09:52 PM |
#198 |
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Because no one, no one, knows my life circumstances |
tnlefty |
Oct-28-09 07:51 PM |
#168 |
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The editing time has expired.... |
tnlefty |
Oct-28-09 10:12 PM |
#200 |
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Being in control of your own reproduction. |
Quantess |
Oct-28-09 09:05 PM |
#189 |
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For a less enlightened reason...overpopulation. |
WonderGrunion |
Oct-28-09 10:16 PM |
#201 |
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Because women should have control over their own bodies. |
roody |
Oct-28-09 10:19 PM |
#202 |
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Because if you're not my gyno or my partner my vagina is none of your fucking business. |
LeftyMom |
Oct-28-09 10:20 PM |
#203 |
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+ 1 |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-29-09 11:04 AM |
#209 |
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It's best left to the mother and doctor |
donheld |
Oct-28-09 10:23 PM |
#205 |
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