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53. I don't like the word "evil" in and of itself...
...though I have on rare occasions used it as the closest approximation for what I was trying to describe. I don't like the word because to my mind it does denote some kind of supernatural definition. "Evil" as a concept goes back to some ultimate source, some deliberate "intelligence," i.e. the proverbial "Satan," some cosmic struggle between opposing forces that dates back to the dawn of time. And this simply doesn't exist.

But are there people who are completely without conscience, without one shred of empathy, completely wrapped up in their own greed and desires, and willing to destroy lives without blinking an eye or losing a night's sleep? Absolutely. And they are both born and made. Those that are "made" might in some circumstances be redeemable. Those that are "born" are beyond any kind of redemption. And they are completely clinically sane, in most cases. The only reason more of them don't turn into mass murderers is that they do have a sense of self-preservation, and don't want the trouble this would bring to their own lives. They go on exercising their petty power in other ways.

So yes, if you use the term "evil" as a metaphor, I've seen it and I know it's out there, but it's completely human and comes from no outside source. I wish there were a better word for it.
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  -Have you had a personal, specific experience with Evil? leftofthedial  Apr-18-07 02:52 AM   #0 
  - I have experienced true evil with an ex-husband.  hang a left   Apr-18-07 02:55 AM   #1 
  - I think we tend to anthropomorphize many things, but not Evil  leftofthedial   Apr-18-07 02:57 AM   #3 
  - I will have to disagree...  hang a left   Apr-18-07 03:04 AM   #4 
  - you're not disagreeing with me. I also believe evil is all too natural.  leftofthedial   Apr-18-07 10:06 AM   #25 
  - If you mean a 'supernatural' evil, you should have made that clear in the OP  muriel_volestrangler   Apr-18-07 05:35 AM   #18 
  - I'm not saying "Evil" is demonic.  leftofthedial   Apr-18-07 09:58 AM   #23 
  - The definitions of "evil" make no reference to demonic or supernatural elements.  Divernan   Apr-18-07 06:37 AM   #19 
     - I agree that evil is caused by natural circumstances.  leftofthedial   Apr-18-07 10:03 AM   #24 
  - Evil? Not mentally ill? You slay me.  Truthiness Inspector   Apr-18-07 04:17 AM   #15 
     - A rose by any other name.  Divernan   Apr-18-07 06:42 AM   #20 
  - I believe in science, not "evil". nt  Bluebear   Apr-18-07 02:57 AM   #2 
  - I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.  leftofthedial   Apr-18-07 10:09 AM   #31 
  - I just sent in my income tax forms  Lasher   Apr-18-07 03:12 AM   #5 
  - lol  hang a left   Apr-18-07 03:15 AM   #6 
     - Glad you got a chuckle  Lasher   Apr-18-07 03:33 AM   #7 
  - Hoo Boy! It's people, not some Boogeyman.  DCKit   Apr-18-07 03:34 AM   #8 
  - get it all out brother! nt  hang a left   Apr-18-07 03:41 AM   #10 
  - sounds like an evil week  leftofthedial   Apr-18-07 10:10 AM   #32 
  - No, I never met Cheney  krispos42   Apr-18-07 03:38 AM   #9 
  - thanks for the smile.  AuntPatsy   Apr-18-07 10:08 AM   #29 
  - unka dick is undeniably evil  leftofthedial   Apr-18-07 10:11 AM   #33 
     - I have to agree  marions ghost   Apr-18-07 11:29 AM   #58 
        - nothing infuriates me more than the insistence of most on the "left"  leftofthedial   Apr-18-07 12:25 PM   #68 
           - well y'know  marions ghost   Apr-18-07 12:58 PM   #71 
  - I don't think one can experience evil.  Alexander   Apr-18-07 03:48 AM   #11 
  - When someone attempts to completely destroy you with the things  hang a left   Apr-18-07 04:09 AM   #14 
  - I disagree  Truthiness Inspector   Apr-18-07 04:20 AM   #16 
     - But as for evil actions....evil is an adjective there.  Alexander   Apr-18-07 05:03 AM   #17 
  - Hell yea I have  Evilismdestroyer07   Apr-18-07 03:53 AM   #12 
  - LOL  leftofthedial   Apr-18-07 04:03 AM   #13 
  - Yes. A boss, actually.  elehhhhna   Apr-18-07 07:15 AM   #21 
  - Evil stole my vote in 2000 and again in 2004!  Hubert Flottz   Apr-18-07 07:17 AM   #22 
  - THAT  leftofthedial   Apr-18-07 10:14 AM   #35 
  - I don't believe in the concept of evil  Marnieworld   Apr-18-07 10:06 AM   #26 
  - broken brains?  jollyreaper2112   Apr-18-07 10:14 AM   #34 
  - is that just semantics?  leftofthedial   Apr-18-07 10:17 AM   #39 
     - not necessarily  Marnieworld   Apr-18-07 10:50 AM   #49 
        - I'm not saying evil is inexplicable or has no causes  leftofthedial   Apr-18-07 12:37 PM   #70 
  - Come on - I post here nearly everyday.  bryant69   Apr-18-07 10:07 AM   #27 
  - Whose definition of evil are we supposed to use for this? - n/t  porphyrian   Apr-18-07 10:08 AM   #28 
  - your own  leftofthedial   Apr-18-07 10:14 AM   #37 
     - That's the problem - I don't generally think in those terms.  porphyrian   Apr-18-07 10:22 AM   #42 
        - I think evil and negligent individuals in our country  leftofthedial   Apr-18-07 10:34 AM   #48 
           - I think we pretty much agree on that.  porphyrian   Apr-18-07 10:51 AM   #50 
  - Yes  treestar   Apr-18-07 10:08 AM   #30 
  - Yes. I was in the Marine Crotch for 4 years.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-18-07 10:14 AM   #36 
  - that is a pervasively evil artifact of humankind  leftofthedial   Apr-18-07 10:18 AM   #40 
  - Yes, in the form of a very disturbed, very sick woman  slackmaster   Apr-18-07 10:15 AM   #38 
  - yes, when I was first paralyzed.  Rosemary2205   Apr-18-07 10:21 AM   #41 
  - I've had evil employers too  leftofthedial   Apr-18-07 10:24 AM   #44 
  - I worked for a time for the most evil company on the planet  NightWatcher   Apr-18-07 10:23 AM   #43 
  - When I was in high school  GTRMAN   Apr-18-07 10:25 AM   #45 
  - I have a friend who has an evil husband  Horse with no Name   Apr-18-07 10:28 AM   #46 
  - yeesh  leftofthedial   Apr-18-07 12:13 PM   #66 
  - I have been sexually abused  sleebarker   Apr-18-07 10:29 AM   #47 
  - Yes - child molester  wicket   Apr-18-07 10:52 AM   #51 
  - evil is an adjective, not a noun.  QuestionAll   Apr-18-07 11:01 AM   #52 
  - I don't like the word "evil" in and of itself...  InvisibleTouch   Apr-18-07 11:05 AM   #53 
  - I meant to post this here. I've been shot at and had to shoot back.  King Coal   Apr-18-07 11:09 AM   #54 
  - Richard Perle.  The Stranger   Apr-18-07 11:15 AM   #55 
  - 10/1979. I shook hands with George H W Bu$h. In Salem NH.  maveric   Apr-18-07 11:17 AM   #56 
  - I have experienced people like this. I consider it to be the results of mental illness.  meldroc   Apr-18-07 11:26 AM   #57 
  - George Bush drove past me once.  WinkyDink   Apr-18-07 11:31 AM   #59 
  - everyday when i encounter poverty in such a wealthy country i am reminded that evil exists  lionesspriyanka   Apr-18-07 11:33 AM   #60 
  - I work in Children's Services, so, yes  noonwitch   Apr-18-07 11:34 AM   #61 
  - Not personally  Annces   Apr-18-07 11:35 AM   #62 
  - Evil is a useless word. It's what we call things we give up on trying to understand.  mondo joe   Apr-18-07 11:37 AM   #63 
  - but have you ever encountered whatever it is you can't quantify  leftofthedial   Apr-18-07 12:14 PM   #67 
     - No. I guess because I don't believe in it, or find it useful.  mondo joe   Apr-18-07 12:26 PM   #69 
  - I don't believe in 'evil' in a supernatural sense...  LeftishBrit   Apr-18-07 11:43 AM   #64 
  - A former boss. Sociopath.  kwassa   Apr-18-07 11:55 AM   #65 
  - I met George W Bush  Lone_Star_Dem   Apr-18-07 01:00 PM   #72 

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