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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #17
208. Good point.
Thank you. I think a lot of the arguments have been hypothetical and based on the assumption that the beating took place as alleged.

But it is true that might not be what happened at all.
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  -I'm guessing this guy picked the wrong kid to fondle? trumad  Oct-27-09 02:04 PM   #0 
  - ---"I don't condone it---But I understand it".  seabeyond   Oct-27-09 02:09 PM   #1 
  - If They Were Willing to Take the Risk of Being Thrown In Jail, I Have No Problem  NashVegas   Oct-27-09 02:49 PM   #24 
  - what if the kid was lying?  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 02:52 PM   #29 
  - That's Not the Point  NashVegas   Oct-27-09 02:53 PM   #30 
  - so- as long as someone is willing to do the time, the crime is acceptable?  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 02:56 PM   #34 
  - Yes. It Is Okay To Beat the Crap Out of Someone Who Molests Kids  NashVegas   Oct-27-09 03:00 PM   #40 
  - that wasn't the question.  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 03:01 PM   #44 
  - THAT Wasn't the Subject  NashVegas   Oct-27-09 03:08 PM   #54 
     - but you did advocate the pummeling of an innocent man- as long as the perps do the time.  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 03:13 PM   #63 
     - You Know He's Innocent, Do You?  NashVegas   Oct-27-09 03:16 PM   #66 
        - i asked "what if the kid is lying?", and you replied that you'd still have no problem with it...  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 03:21 PM   #70 
        - that is very low. What does his/her mom has to do with it?  Sebass1271   Oct-27-09 10:37 PM   #171 
           - He isn't assuming anything  DireStrike   Oct-28-09 03:29 PM   #203 
        - I'm leaning toward the idea that he's guilty,  Codeine   Oct-27-09 03:26 PM   #77 
        - Assuming That's the Case  NashVegas   Oct-27-09 03:41 PM   #84 
           - back-peddle much..?  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 03:47 PM   #89 
           - Oh Boy. Ya Got Me  NashVegas   Oct-27-09 03:56 PM   #97 
              - no bowing necessary.  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 04:03 PM   #100 
           - That is just idiotic. If something happened to the kid then what the child needs is a father  WhollyHeretic   Oct-27-09 03:49 PM   #91 
           - Nothing says Daddy loves you like caving someone's skull in with a brick.  Hassin Bin Sober   Oct-27-09 05:33 PM   #134 
              - I can only guess the anger and emotion took over. I can't imagine what I would  Shell Beau   Oct-28-09 06:01 PM   #211 
           - as a mother of a severn year old boy, the brick was not enough  Sebass1271   Oct-27-09 10:38 PM   #172 
              - Yeah, if they would have shot and killed him,  cognoscere   Oct-28-09 12:53 AM   #185 
        - Innocent until proven guilty is how I always thought it was.  tmyers09   Oct-27-09 03:32 PM   #79 
        - Not on DU when anyone is accused of rape or child abuse - then it's automatica guilty,  Rabrrrrrr   Oct-27-09 05:02 PM   #117 
           - that's right. Rape and child molesters are not excused  Sebass1271   Oct-27-09 10:40 PM   #173 
              - Thanks for confirming my suspicion  cognoscere   Oct-28-09 12:54 AM   #186 
              - No, you unconstitutional person, you are ready to convict people on hearsay  Rabrrrrrr   Oct-28-09 07:31 AM   #195 
              - And at least have the integrity to say "ALLEGED rape child molestors are not excused"  Rabrrrrrr   Oct-28-09 07:33 AM   #196 
              - I can't believe you're completely ignoring the point.  DireStrike   Oct-28-09 03:31 PM   #204 
        - Yes, he is, until proven guilty. n/t  cognoscere   Oct-28-09 12:46 AM   #184 
     - It seems like you might be moving the goal posts yourself.  EOTE   Oct-27-09 03:22 PM   #73 
     - see post #29. nt  verges   Oct-27-09 07:47 PM   #163 
  - And if he didn't?  Codeine   Oct-27-09 03:02 PM   #45 
  - They Should Take Responsibility For Their Actions  NashVegas   Oct-27-09 03:04 PM   #48 
     - Totally agree. n/t  cognoscere   Oct-28-09 12:55 AM   #187 
  - Funny - just the post before you said it didn't matter if molestation happened or not.  Rabrrrrrr   Oct-27-09 03:17 PM   #68 
  - Hello? I Was Talking About THIS Crime  NashVegas   Oct-27-09 03:22 PM   #72 
     - YOUR response, when asked "what if the kid is lying?"  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 03:26 PM   #76 
     - Yes. They. The Ones Who Beat the Crap Out of a Guy They Believed Molested Their Kid  NashVegas   Oct-27-09 03:29 PM   #78 
        - so- you have no problem with people beating someone half to death on a child's lie...  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 03:37 PM   #82 
           - Great  NashVegas   Oct-27-09 03:42 PM   #85 
              - you're the one who's been advocating the beating of innocent people, not me.  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 03:46 PM   #86 
                 - Since when are we a civilized society?  Common Sense Party   Oct-27-09 10:58 PM   #177 
     - Actually, since you said it doesn't matter if the kid is lying, you are therefore  Rabrrrrrr   Oct-27-09 04:55 PM   #115 
  - If you're willing to do the time a molestation charge brings...  Silent3   Oct-27-09 04:50 PM   #112 
  - When I was about 8 yrs old I was sitting with some of my friends  goclark   Oct-27-09 06:55 PM   #159 
  - are you defending the child molester? your comparison is  Sebass1271   Oct-27-09 10:34 PM   #170 
     - It looks like they are defending our  cognoscere   Oct-28-09 01:11 AM   #189 
  - or- if a kid accusses you of molestation...  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 02:59 PM   #38 
  - I salute you for trying to enlighten  cognoscere   Oct-28-09 12:59 AM   #188 
  - What a bizarre statement.  Hassin Bin Sober   Oct-27-09 03:16 PM   #67 
  - Exactly!  sixmile   Oct-27-09 02:53 PM   #31 
  - How does a three-year-old know enough about sex to lie about it?  JuniperLea   Oct-27-09 03:07 PM   #50 
  - No Kidding  NashVegas   Oct-27-09 03:09 PM   #56 
  - and yet, it's happened.  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 03:11 PM   #58 
  - That preschool is in the area where I live...  JuniperLea   Oct-27-09 04:29 PM   #104 
     - "Children of that age don't know anything about sexual activity unless they are taught."  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 04:39 PM   #108 
        - I don't! And neither do you!  JuniperLea   Oct-27-09 04:52 PM   #114 
           - and yet- you feel it's acceptable to question people who wonder if the kid might be lying..  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 05:18 PM   #123 
              - Don't put words in my mouth...  JuniperLea   Oct-27-09 05:24 PM   #129 
                 - It's a Hopeless Cause  NashVegas   Oct-27-09 05:25 PM   #130 
                 - Good advice...  JuniperLea   Oct-27-09 05:31 PM   #133 
                    - Soldiers.  NashVegas   Oct-27-09 05:43 PM   #142 
                 - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-27-09 05:35 PM   #135 
                 - your #104 is the answer to your #50  anigbrowl   Oct-27-09 06:52 PM   #157 
                    - He's arguing that a child of 2 or three could lie about sexual contact...  JuniperLea   Oct-27-09 06:58 PM   #160 
                       - You've got it backwards  anigbrowl   Oct-27-09 07:19 PM   #162 
                          - Jesus God you are really dense as all hell...  JuniperLea   Oct-28-09 12:32 PM   #199 
                             - If you think a child is incapable of lying - whether intentional or accidental - you're dense.  Rabrrrrrr   Oct-28-09 01:57 PM   #200 
                                - If you are going to argue with someone...  JuniperLea   Oct-28-09 03:26 PM   #202 
                                   - So then tell me what you really mean, since I responded to what you wrote  Rabrrrrrr   Oct-28-09 05:28 PM   #209 
  - Not exactly sure ... but here's a true story for you ...  zbdent   Oct-27-09 03:13 PM   #62 
  - I watched a 1st grader after school...  JuniperLea   Oct-27-09 04:34 PM   #105 
  - How do we even know the kid actually said it?  Rabrrrrrr   Oct-27-09 03:22 PM   #71 
  - Yeah. It was a drug deal... I mean look at them  ecstatic   Oct-27-09 03:24 PM   #75 
     - Isn't doubt a good thing?  EOTE   Oct-27-09 03:34 PM   #81 
     - Doubt would be a good thing if it was doled out equally  ecstatic   Oct-27-09 03:48 PM   #90 
        - Perhaps drug dealing was brought up because it often involves violence?  EOTE   Oct-27-09 03:52 PM   #94 
        - "That poster pulled that out of his ass because the two men...are black and latino"  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 03:59 PM   #99 
        - HA HA HA! You're totally fucking ignorant!  Rabrrrrrr   Oct-27-09 06:50 PM   #156 
     - I scarcely even looked at them, but thanks for your bullshit, anyway.  Rabrrrrrr   Oct-27-09 05:00 PM   #116 
     - The father has an arrest record a mile long.  Hassin Bin Sober   Oct-27-09 08:23 PM   #165 
  - how does a two-year old?  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 04:09 PM   #101 
  - You don't get it...  JuniperLea   Oct-27-09 04:26 PM   #103 
     - don't get what?  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 04:37 PM   #107 
        - Have you read any of the interview transcripts?  JuniperLea   Oct-27-09 04:51 PM   #113 
           - and you have?  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 05:14 PM   #122 
              - Google is your friend...  JuniperLea   Oct-27-09 05:21 PM   #127 
                 - children? it was ONE CHILD  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 05:39 PM   #138 
                    - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-27-09 05:48 PM   #145 
  - Super question  malaise   Oct-27-09 05:19 PM   #124 
  - what about this case of a two-year old making the same kind of allegations?  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 05:41 PM   #141 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-27-09 05:49 PM   #147 
  - Lots of possibilities  anigbrowl   Oct-27-09 06:48 PM   #154 
  - The two guys could be lying about the kid's story.  verges   Oct-27-09 07:55 PM   #164 
  - Trust me, the do. My neighbor had a three year girl  Sebass1271   Oct-27-09 10:46 PM   #174 
  - You don't have any idea what this situation is here.  DireStrike   Oct-28-09 03:43 PM   #206 
  - He doesn't have to.  DireStrike   Oct-28-09 03:36 PM   #205 
  - Let me jump in at this very late juncture and comment that those other kids/parents who  bertman   Oct-27-09 05:36 PM   #136 
  - Well, that makes this a whole 'nuther Oprah, doesn't it?  JuniperLea   Oct-27-09 06:02 PM   #150 
     - I have nothing more to add. nt  bertman   Oct-27-09 10:09 PM   #168 
  - 3-year olds don't lie about that  Horse with no Name   Oct-27-09 05:40 PM   #139 
     - but 2-year olds do?  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 05:49 PM   #146 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-27-09 05:52 PM   #148 
     - To start with--2 year olds and 3 years are apples and oranges  Horse with no Name   Oct-27-09 05:58 PM   #149 
        - so- a two year old CAN lie about sex but a 3-year old can't?  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 06:04 PM   #151 
           - Not going to compare them  Horse with no Name   Oct-27-09 06:14 PM   #152 
              - if it was a child development class that gave you that non-logic- NO THANKS  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 06:20 PM   #153 
                 - I'm not comparing or confirming your "evidence"  Horse with no Name   Oct-27-09 11:51 PM   #181 
     - absoluteley, i agree with you , they don't lie about things like  Sebass1271   Oct-27-09 10:55 PM   #176 
     - Do adults lie about what children say to them?  DireStrike   Oct-28-09 03:45 PM   #207 
  - Prior case  Rebubula   Oct-27-09 03:47 PM   #88 
     - I Don't See  NashVegas   Oct-27-09 04:16 PM   #102 
        - "I didn't advocated killing anyone, nor would I."  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 04:42 PM   #110 
        - "and he wasn't around to defend himself"  Hassin Bin Sober   Oct-27-09 04:45 PM   #111 
  - What if the man didn't fondle the child? What if the allegations are proved to be untrue?  Arkansas Granny   Oct-27-09 03:11 PM   #59 
     - Of course he would.  Codeine   Oct-27-09 03:20 PM   #69 
     - Some of these attitudes I'm seeing are pretty scary.  Arkansas Granny   Oct-27-09 03:38 PM   #83 
        - especially seeing how in subject it states "i dont condone". nt  seabeyond   Oct-27-09 05:07 PM   #119 
     - i should have put in a declarative. IF the child was fondled, and IF they had past experience  seabeyond   Oct-27-09 05:05 PM   #118 
  - If they throw his baby raping ass into general population in prison  Sebastian Doyle   Oct-27-09 02:09 PM   #2 
  - Remember the Duke Lacrosse players?  FiveGoodMen   Oct-27-09 05:23 PM   #128 
  - Assumes facts not in evidence. n/t  cognoscere   Oct-28-09 01:14 AM   #191 
  - Allegedly.  tmyers09   Oct-27-09 02:10 PM   #3 
  - And that is the point, I think.  Adsos Letter   Oct-27-09 02:15 PM   #4 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-27-09 02:31 PM   #16 
  - Allegedly  fishwax   Oct-27-09 02:31 PM   #17 
  - Good point.  DireStrike   Oct-28-09 03:49 PM   #208 
  - Ummmm,  Codeine   Oct-27-09 02:52 PM   #28 
  - who are you? that you are the defender of old farts fuckin with our kids. nt  seabeyond   Oct-27-09 02:54 PM   #32 
  - Now now now, ONLY those capable of getting pregnant. Be fair. nt  uppityperson   Oct-27-09 02:57 PM   #35 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-27-09 02:57 PM   #36 
  - all of our "gotcha, and thanks for clarification on your position" got deleted. so just saying  seabeyond   Oct-27-09 05:30 PM   #131 
  - I don't blame them at all.  SIMPLYB1980   Oct-27-09 02:18 PM   #5 
  - You don't blame somebody for putting someone in a coma?  tmyers09   Oct-27-09 02:25 PM   #7 
  - the doctors put him in a medically-induced coma. Get the story straight  Beaverhausen   Oct-27-09 02:26 PM   #8 
  - Not at all. I would do the same thing if my  SIMPLYB1980   Oct-27-09 02:31 PM   #14 
  - No I don't. I have no sympathy for pedophiles nt  ecstatic   Oct-27-09 02:32 PM   #19 
  - Yeah, vigilantism is so cool.  Flaneur   Oct-27-09 02:30 PM   #13 
     - Sometimes it is. When a sick fuck deserves it.  SIMPLYB1980   Oct-27-09 02:33 PM   #20 
     - You've assumed guilt  Codeine   Oct-27-09 02:36 PM   #22 
     - Yep based on the word of a child.  SIMPLYB1980   Oct-27-09 02:46 PM   #23 
        - That's sickening.  Codeine   Oct-27-09 02:49 PM   #25 
           - I would believe my kid before the man he said molested him.  SIMPLYB1980   Oct-27-09 02:51 PM   #27 
     - I love this!  proteus_lives   Oct-28-09 12:02 AM   #182 
     - Pedophilia can't be cured  ecstatic   Oct-27-09 02:35 PM   #21 
        - and if the guy is innocent?  dysfunctional press   Oct-27-09 03:00 PM   #41 
           - Due Process  cark   Oct-27-09 03:32 PM   #80 
              - or next door to me so i can send him to another coma...  Sebass1271   Oct-27-09 11:02 PM   #178 
  - What's it called when a jury affirms the crime was comitted but vindicates the defendant?  OneTenthofOnePercent   Oct-27-09 02:23 PM   #6 
  - Jury nullification  AllentownJake   Oct-27-09 02:27 PM   #10 
  - It can also be a good thing  MajorChode   Oct-27-09 03:07 PM   #52 
  - I believe you are thinking of jury nullification  slackmaster   Oct-27-09 02:28 PM   #11 
  - Jury nullification sucks. nt  Codeine   Oct-27-09 03:01 PM   #43 
     - Not always.  OneTenthofOnePercent   Oct-27-09 03:54 PM   #95 
  - Wow. And if the kid (or the dad) is full of shit?  Codeine   Oct-27-09 02:27 PM   #9 
  - Because when it comes to the children,  tmyers09   Oct-27-09 02:31 PM   #15 
  - that's right, liberals are not like repubs, we care for our  Sebass1271   Oct-27-09 11:04 PM   #180 
  - Pretty sickening, ain't it?  EOTE   Oct-27-09 03:00 PM   #42 
  - The Cornerstone of Our Civilization Gave Way Years Ago  NashVegas   Oct-27-09 03:15 PM   #65 
  - What they did was wrong, but I won't call them assholes because  Shell Beau   Oct-28-09 06:07 PM   #212 
  - Both the molestation charge and the attempted murder charge are correct  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-27-09 02:29 PM   #12 
  - Well, I hope the 3 year old was right  Lex   Oct-27-09 02:32 PM   #18 
  - AND that the dad wasn't lying about what the kid said. nt.  Mariana   Oct-27-09 05:36 PM   #137 
  - You and me, both.  TexasObserver   Oct-27-09 05:44 PM   #143 
  - Wow, DMX gets around nt  Dreamer Tatum   Oct-27-09 02:50 PM   #26 
  - For their sake I hope the allegations are true.  YOY   Oct-27-09 02:54 PM   #33 
  - I hope they were sure he did it  guitar man   Oct-27-09 02:57 PM   #37 
  - They weren't sure.  Codeine   Oct-27-09 02:59 PM   #39 
     - I have a 3 year old  guitar man   Oct-27-09 03:47 PM   #87 
  - Yeah, but now that kid won't have a father around either because he could get more prison time  WI_DEM   Oct-27-09 03:03 PM   #46 
  - DU welcomes you to Somalia!  Codeine   Oct-27-09 03:04 PM   #47 
  - If I were on the jury I would acquit  Alcibiades   Oct-27-09 03:05 PM   #49 
  - Be honest. You'd acquit  Codeine   Oct-27-09 03:08 PM   #55 
  - These people sniff at lynch mobs...yet they would be at the head of the crowd  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-27-09 05:19 PM   #125 
  - And maybe I hear too much about these kind of cases  Alcibiades   Oct-27-09 06:54 PM   #158 
  - The prosecution would also have to convince me they intended the molester dead. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Oct-27-09 03:12 PM   #60 
  - The back and forth arguing here comes down to one question.  wolfgangmo   Oct-27-09 03:07 PM   #51 
  - But then the question is can it be excused if  SIMPLYB1980   Oct-27-09 03:12 PM   #61 
  - Thanks for making this point.  Ignis   Oct-27-09 03:49 PM   #92 
     - Agreed  Caliman73   Oct-27-09 04:35 PM   #106 
  - Just because I would do EXACTLY the same thing as these guys  Robb   Oct-27-09 03:08 PM   #53 
  - You're no dingbat. I feel the same way. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Oct-27-09 03:10 PM   #57 
  - on the word of a 3 year old?  Lex   Oct-27-09 03:14 PM   #64 
  - I'm not proud of it. But if it were *my* 3 year-old, probably.  Robb   Oct-27-09 03:24 PM   #74 
  - It doesn't, but it is reality. Parents are fiercely protective over their  Shell Beau   Oct-28-09 06:09 PM   #213 
  - That's the problem with vigilantes these days. They have no patience.  flvegan   Oct-27-09 03:49 PM   #93 
  - How Much  NashVegas   Oct-27-09 03:55 PM   #96 
     - I would expect the system to prosecute him as any other.  flvegan   Oct-27-09 03:58 PM   #98 
  - As our society continues down the path towards madness  MadHound   Oct-27-09 04:42 PM   #109 
  - I couldn't agree with you more! n/t  arthritisR_US   Oct-27-09 10:50 PM   #175 
  - If I personally saw someone molesting my daughter  reggie the dog   Oct-27-09 05:11 PM   #120 
  - The choices we all make have consequences  slackmaster   Oct-27-09 05:12 PM   #121 
  - I'd request a jury trial if I was the dad or his friend.  lpbk2713   Oct-27-09 05:20 PM   #126 
  - Exactly, because the prosecutor would only need to ask  cognoscere   Oct-28-09 01:57 AM   #194 
  - I would be curious to see what his 2 other sex-related arrests involved  w8liftinglady   Oct-27-09 05:30 PM   #132 
  - I would, too, because that tells us nothing.  Mariana   Oct-27-09 05:41 PM   #140 
     - Then that person should have learned from peeing in the bushes...  JuniperLea   Oct-27-09 06:50 PM   #155 
        - More baseless assumptions  anigbrowl   Oct-27-09 07:15 PM   #161 
        - You should se the father's arrest record - it's a mile long.  Hassin Bin Sober   Oct-27-09 08:37 PM   #166 
  - Hey everybody, if you ever commit a violent crime  Mariana   Oct-27-09 05:45 PM   #144 
  - Bingo. n/t  adamuu   Oct-28-09 07:46 AM   #197 
  - Serves the fucker right!  Odin2005   Oct-27-09 09:25 PM   #167 
  - that's bull shit!!. the father shouldn't go to jail. That child  Sebass1271   Oct-27-09 10:32 PM   #169 
  - Yea , fuck a Judge and Jury what type of justice is that!? /nm  IrishBuckeye   Oct-28-09 01:14 AM   #190 
  - Assumes facts not in evidence. n/t  cognoscere   Oct-28-09 01:15 AM   #192 
  - A concrete block....and he's not dead? Ermm.....  MissMarple   Oct-27-09 11:02 PM   #179 
  - Fucker had it coming.  proteus_lives   Oct-28-09 12:04 AM   #183 
  - To all you "people" who are advocating violence against the alleged molester:  cognoscere   Oct-28-09 01:19 AM   #193 
     - I don't think either gentleman is claiming they acted in self defense  OneTenthofOnePercent   Oct-28-09 08:41 AM   #198 
        - DA might lose the file  AngryAmish   Oct-28-09 01:59 PM   #201 
  - I condone it.  MrSlayer   Oct-28-09 05:39 PM   #210 
  - "arrested twice before on sex-related charges, but never convicted."  Tim01   Oct-28-09 06:19 PM   #214 
  - I understand your statement....  CraftyGal   Oct-28-09 06:21 PM   #215 
 

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