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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 08:54 AM
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78. Why is it hard to understand? Healthcare is a RIGHT!
Edited on Tue Oct-27-09 09:22 AM by Statistical
Just like liberty.

States enforcing slavery = denial of a human right.
State denying healthcare = denial of a human right.

I see little difference. Don't worry all that denial of human rights will be happening far far away. You likely won't even be able to see the people dying from lack of care. As long as you can't see it then nothing is wrong. Kinda like living in NYC before the civil war. Slavery? What slavery?
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  -as long as my state doesn't "opt-out", then i am cool with it... 1  Oct-27-09 04:11 AM   #0 
  - I like the opt out feature  Chemisse   Oct-27-09 04:17 AM   #1 
  - I agree that it makes it more palatable and much more likely  liberalhistorian   Oct-27-09 06:00 AM   #38 
     - I'm with you, sugar...  a la izquierda   Oct-27-09 06:05 AM   #42 
     - The proposed bill says that if your state wants to opt out, then it will have  pnwmom   Oct-27-09 06:24 AM   #52 
  - Every state must implement the public option, Every State  sandnsea   Oct-27-09 04:18 AM   #2 
  - there you go. fuck it. let's get this show started. screw the "let's wait until we get it all"...  1   Oct-27-09 04:30 AM   #4 
  - Really, fuck the liberals that live in red states..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 04:32 AM   #5 
     - you are right... we should sit and wring our hands... light candles... and weep...  1   Oct-27-09 04:37 AM   #7 
        - If this goes down, I for one won't vote any more..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 04:42 AM   #8 
           - well then, see you... the rest of us will just move the ball forward without you...  1   Oct-27-09 04:54 AM   #13 
           - There will be a lot of people with me..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 04:55 AM   #14 
              - *hand to forehead* *oh my!* drama queen... stop...  1   Oct-27-09 05:08 AM   #20 
                 - You made it quite clear that if you get what you want you don't give a fuck  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 05:11 AM   #22 
                    - its not about me. your posts are about you... no state will "opt-out" and you know that...  1   Oct-27-09 05:27 AM   #23 
                       - Your personal insults are not pursuasive.  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 05:33 AM   #25 
                       - the world is moving on. you can get with, or fling your poo... your choice...  1   Oct-27-09 05:41 AM   #28 
                          - LOL.. You are the one flinging insults..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 05:46 AM   #30 
                             - you don't want to learn.... you don't want better for any of us... you just want to be "right"...  1   Oct-27-09 05:53 AM   #33 
                                - You just want better for you..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 05:56 AM   #35 
                                   - you are perfect. you are the reason we will never win anything...  1   Oct-27-09 06:31 AM   #55 
                                      - Eat your own words..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 06:38 AM   #57 
                                         - so sad to be you... people here can help... remember, there is always help...  1   Oct-27-09 06:43 AM   #59 
                                            - LOL... Don't like the taste, eh?  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 06:46 AM   #60 
                                            - oh, ok. you must get the last post. ok. i'll play. tag! i have the last post!  1   Oct-27-09 06:49 AM   #61 
                                            - as long as my state doesn't "opt-out", then i am cool with it...  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 06:51 AM   #62 
                       - You make it clear that you care nothing about others, and when it's pointed out,  bobbolink   Oct-27-09 05:29 PM   #86 
           - So YOU fail to elect progressives, and then YOU are going to pout when your state opts out?  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Oct-27-09 05:06 AM   #19 
              - And who is going to let them opt out, eh?  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 05:10 AM   #21 
                 - the reason we HAVE to let them opt out  CTLawGuy   Oct-27-09 05:27 AM   #24 
                    - If the Democratic leadership had started negotiating from a "single payer" plan..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 05:37 AM   #26 
                       - what a ridiculous argument...  1   Oct-27-09 05:51 AM   #32 
                       - Obviously you've never done any serious negotiation..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 05:58 AM   #36 
                          - please... you are embarrassing yourself... "serious negotiating?"...  1   Oct-27-09 06:05 AM   #43 
                             - Medicare is not single payer?  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 06:07 AM   #44 
                       - Total bullshit  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Oct-27-09 06:09 AM   #45 
                       - America already *has* single payer for some people..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 06:13 AM   #46 
                          - Yeah, because Medicare for all is really a tenable negotiating start.  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Oct-27-09 03:18 PM   #84 
                       - don't think so  CTLawGuy   Oct-27-09 06:14 AM   #47 
                          - America already *has* single payer for some people..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 06:18 AM   #49 
                             - Medicare is not techincally single payer  CTLawGuy   Oct-27-09 06:34 AM   #56 
                                - Even in the UK it's possible to get private insurance..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 06:40 AM   #58 
                                   - oh I was confused  CTLawGuy   Oct-27-09 05:25 PM   #85 
  - Waiting for a year was a brilliant move. Once the people get used to the PO, they will want  CTyankee   Oct-27-09 08:49 AM   #77 
  - It forces the right wingers--governors and legislatures-- to put up or shut up  bluestateguy   Oct-27-09 04:27 AM   #3 
  - fuck yeah! cards on the table. this is good. do it!  1   Oct-27-09 04:34 AM   #6 
  - and what if your state  barbtries   Oct-27-09 04:46 AM   #9 
  - For those of us that wanted Medicare for All  Sherman A1   Oct-27-09 04:51 AM   #11 
  - but they won't. political suicide. fuck the "i want it all" crowd. you can't get that...  1   Oct-27-09 04:52 AM   #12 
     - We could get decent health care coverage if the Democrats had any fucking guts..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 04:56 AM   #15 
  - its like you got yours. screw the rest.  joeycola   Oct-27-09 04:50 AM   #10 
  - no. its not like that at all. its like the start of change. do you not get that?  1   Oct-27-09 04:57 AM   #16 
     - Your OP made it quite clear that as long as you get yours you don't care..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 05:01 AM   #18 
     - nope. we reject your claim. you can't pull your "you are racist" equivalent shit here...  1   Oct-27-09 05:38 AM   #27 
        - You aren't my friend if you are willing to leave me sick with no healthcare..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 05:47 AM   #31 
           - and you would deny all others healthcare until the law is to your liking...  1   Oct-27-09 05:56 AM   #34 
              - I want health care for everyone..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 05:59 AM   #37 
     - So long as it starts with you.  spoony   Oct-27-09 06:03 AM   #40 
  - Which is the bigger hit on a state's budget, opt-out or the public option? n/t  retread   Oct-27-09 04:58 AM   #17 
  - Somehow your nickname seems apt,  MadHound   Oct-27-09 05:43 AM   #29 
  - somehow, you think that "some" getting coverage is bad....  1   Oct-27-09 06:01 AM   #39 
     - You think you not getting coverage is bad..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 06:04 AM   #41 
        - ok... i get you. you can't follow a discussion.. your entire argument is with the op...  1   Oct-27-09 06:21 AM   #50 
           - I'm just forcing your own stinking words back down the scrofulous gullet they came out of..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 06:24 AM   #53 
  - Darwinian ethics, eh?  Bucky   Oct-27-09 06:16 AM   #48 
  - Here's a deal for ya...how about TX takes it's 3rd largest # of Dem votes in the House with it?  Justitia   Oct-27-09 06:22 AM   #51 
  - ROFL.. Well said..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 06:26 AM   #54 
  - this is such a "me me me" post - I would expect to read this on FR - not DU  DrDan   Oct-27-09 07:43 AM   #63 
  - After reading this long debate about this OP and  Sukie   Oct-27-09 07:45 AM   #64 
  - That was me that said that..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 07:56 AM   #65 
     - I live in Virginia. Yeah, we went blue for the general  Sukie   Oct-27-09 08:19 AM   #66 
     - If opting out of healthcare is an option then so is opting out of voting..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 08:38 AM   #70 
     - no, that wasn't you that said that. that was me in the op. you were just too ignorant to get it...  1   Oct-27-09 08:28 AM   #67 
        - I was responding to this quote:  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 08:34 AM   #68 
           - oops, i forgot your rules... tag!  1   Oct-27-09 08:37 AM   #69 
              - as long as my state doesn't "opt-out", then i am cool with it...  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 08:39 AM   #71 
                 - tag!  1   Oct-27-09 08:41 AM   #72 
  - I'm cool with it whether my state opts out or not because  ecstatic   Oct-27-09 08:43 AM   #73 
  - i should have started this thread when the adults like you woke up...  1   Oct-27-09 08:47 AM   #75 
  - As long as my state doesn't opt-in to legalizing slavery I am cool with it.  Statistical   Oct-27-09 08:44 AM   #74 
  - really? that's what you bring to this?  1   Oct-27-09 08:48 AM   #76 
     - Why is it hard to understand? Healthcare is a RIGHT!  Statistical   Oct-27-09 08:54 AM   #78 
        - so you don't actually read the threads you post to. don't try to understand the ongoing discussion..  1   Oct-27-09 09:00 AM   #79 
        - So we should go to WAR with the south, instead of letting them opt out?  PassingFair   Oct-27-09 09:30 AM   #80 
           - I don't recall a civil war in the 1960's..  Fumesucker   Oct-27-09 09:32 AM   #81 
              - And you must be looking at some other post.  PassingFair   Oct-27-09 09:50 AM   #83 
  - What a short sighted, self centered, heartless post this is  Bluenorthwest   Oct-27-09 09:35 AM   #82 
 

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