saltpoint
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Mon Oct-26-09 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #5 |
| 99. Nope. None of that's true. |
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Edited on Mon Oct-26-09 09:41 PM by saltpoint
Lotsa real smart folks can turn the air blue at a moment's notice. Has nothing to do with their education at all.
If the concern is how much words hurt others, any words carefully chosen can do that, whether or not they involve crude language. Silence itself can hurt others.
I don't see anybody endorsing sexism or racism and so language suggesting either or both would by default be unacceptable, but then again entire school districts have become unhinged over Twain's HUCKLEBERRY FINN. Most complex stuff is real complex.
A distinction should be made, IMO, between strong language aimed at others ("You MF!") versus frustration aimed at inanimate objects ("The goddam bus broke down and we were late for the movies").
What is profane for the preacher might be acceptable vocab for the public. I'm not seeing Jack Nicholson's films dubbed with "Son of a gun" and "Doggone it" any time soon and if they were I wouldn't shell out a penny to see them.
Kids realize from an extremely early age which words and phrases should be repeated at the supper table and which words and phrases should not be. Among themselves, they generally speak freely, and properly so.
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 Should children be allowed to use swear words? |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-26-09 01:29 PM |
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I didn't vote. I swear, but my kids aren't allowed to. I tell them it's like driving a car or doing |
Brickbat |
Oct-26-09 01:31 PM |
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Children should not drive for safety reasons. Why should a child not be allowed to swear? nt |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-26-09 01:37 PM |
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Because I don't think it's appropriate for my kids to swear. |
Brickbat |
Oct-26-09 01:39 PM |
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+1... |
SidDithers |
Oct-26-09 03:18 PM |
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Haha those poor tinker toys. |
tmyers09 |
Oct-26-09 01:33 PM |
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Children should be able to use/wear swords! |
appal_jack |
Oct-26-09 08:52 PM |
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:-) |
SallyMander |
Oct-26-09 09:15 PM |
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:-) ! |
appal_jack |
Oct-26-09 11:25 PM |
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Same rules apply at this household. |
rucky |
Oct-26-09 01:37 PM |
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Swearing is wrong for a number of reasons, none of them having |
lapfog_1 |
Oct-26-09 01:37 PM |
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Oh, how I agree!! |
rubberducky |
Oct-26-09 01:58 PM |
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Despite that old schoolmarm shibboleth, swearing is a privilege of the articulate |
mitchum |
Oct-26-09 02:09 PM |
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But they're usually what people remember |
Dreamer Tatum |
Oct-26-09 03:33 PM |
#59 |
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Well, that's their fucking problem :) |
mitchum |
Oct-26-09 03:35 PM |
#61 |
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... |
RetroLounge |
Oct-27-09 09:15 AM |
#136 |
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Well fuck that |
tonysam |
Oct-26-09 02:19 PM |
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None of those are true. |
Unvanguard |
Oct-26-09 02:55 PM |
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Do you have any evidence for any of those points. They all seem false to me. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-26-09 03:00 PM |
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If two people have the same vocabulary... |
SidDithers |
Oct-26-09 03:21 PM |
#55 |
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Logic would say yes. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-26-09 11:18 PM |
#111 |
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No, we pick the shock value of the common swear word |
lapfog_1 |
Oct-27-09 12:01 AM |
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That's well said. Thanks nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-26-09 03:47 PM |
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& who doesn't love an appropriate demeaning insult or descriptive verbiage. |
HughMoran |
Oct-26-09 08:29 PM |
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The best insults are those where the recipient has no idea that they were insulted. -n/t |
lapfog_1 |
Oct-27-09 12:05 AM |
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Exactly how does swearing demonstrate a "lack of vocabulary" or education? |
NYC Liberal |
Oct-26-09 08:32 PM |
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Oh bullshit. Swear words are part of the richness of language. |
Warren Stupidity |
Oct-26-09 09:01 PM |
#86 |
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Nope. None of that's true. |
saltpoint |
Oct-26-09 09:37 PM |
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What a festering swamp of bullshit reasoning you offer for our perusal. |
Zhade |
Oct-26-09 11:15 PM |
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I offered NO reasoning. I only stated what IS. |
lapfog_1 |
Oct-27-09 12:12 AM |
#121 |
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"Swearing is wrong for a number of reasons..." |
Warren Stupidity |
Oct-27-09 06:21 AM |
#123 |
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agree |
handmade34 |
Oct-26-09 11:18 PM |
#112 |
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Depends on context, usage & maturity. |
Vidar |
Oct-27-09 08:27 AM |
#126 |
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I completely agree. |
IsItJustMe |
Oct-27-09 09:14 AM |
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It depends on the kid and the family I think. |
Geostudent |
Oct-26-09 01:39 PM |
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Potentially funny story |
BOSSHOG |
Oct-26-09 01:39 PM |
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Similar story. THree-year old daughter comes home after being picked up by Dad at |
T Wolf |
Oct-26-09 02:01 PM |
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My kids are allowed to swear at home. They know there are places |
walldude |
Oct-26-09 01:39 PM |
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Exactly. |
Dappleganger |
Oct-27-09 08:34 AM |
#127 |
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Fuck no. It's about time some of these asshole parents become goddam role models. |
Buzz Clik |
Oct-26-09 01:40 PM |
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Fuckin DUzy !!! |
WillyT |
Oct-26-09 11:29 PM |
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It is something that should be discouaged. |
Quantess |
Oct-26-09 01:40 PM |
#11 |
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My daughter rarely swears, maybe once a month I will hear her swear. |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-26-09 03:28 PM |
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At home yes, but not outside. |
Graybeard |
Oct-26-09 01:42 PM |
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Mine are allowed to speak however they speak... |
Iggo |
Oct-26-09 01:42 PM |
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as the mom of three boys,all 6 years apart-it is a challenge. |
w8liftinglady |
Oct-26-09 01:57 PM |
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My youngest once called his grandfather (thankfully not the conservative minister one!) a |
GreenPartyVoter |
Oct-26-09 03:51 PM |
#70 |
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ROFL! |
Dappleganger |
Oct-27-09 08:36 AM |
#128 |
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There is nothing wrong with children expressing free speech |
Xenotime |
Oct-26-09 01:46 PM |
#14 |
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Finally, a post I can agree with! |
FiveGoodMen |
Oct-26-09 01:49 PM |
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I would have agreed with you in third grade |
Igel |
Oct-26-09 09:08 PM |
#88 |
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Several years ago I was shopping and saw this adorable little boy dressed |
rubberducky |
Oct-26-09 01:56 PM |
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That would not be allowed in my house. |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-26-09 03:31 PM |
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"Swear" words serve a function. They remove the phony propriety that allows people |
T Wolf |
Oct-26-09 01:57 PM |
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Right. Good thing Harriett Beacher Stowe used the word "fuck" a lot. |
Nye Bevan |
Oct-26-09 02:15 PM |
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I don't think even that would have made her a better writer |
mitchum |
Oct-26-09 03:20 PM |
#54 |
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We've got Anything Goes Days |
AlienGirl |
Oct-26-09 02:02 PM |
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Even the song "Anything Goes" has some input on the subject... |
Libertas1776 |
Oct-26-09 02:19 PM |
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So "fuck this goddamn motherfucking piece of shit homework assignment" |
Nye Bevan |
Oct-26-09 02:13 PM |
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some. not many. look at the poll, wink. nt |
seabeyond |
Oct-26-09 02:14 PM |
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Sure. Why not? n/t |
Unvanguard |
Oct-26-09 02:56 PM |
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Yes, "fuck this goddamn motherfucking piece of shit homework assignment" is OK, |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-26-09 03:34 PM |
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I have to think about community standards, and the world my kid lives in. |
bunkerbuster1 |
Oct-26-09 02:18 PM |
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It's my feeling |
TicketyBoo |
Oct-26-09 02:22 PM |
#28 |
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Fuck no! |
damntexdem |
Oct-26-09 02:25 PM |
#29 |
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I think frequent swearing is a bad habit for kids |
ctaylors6 |
Oct-26-09 02:26 PM |
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Swearing has been pretty bad for my vocab. personally. |
Realityhack |
Oct-26-09 02:33 PM |
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I thought you said "wear swords." |
Flaneur |
Oct-26-09 02:34 PM |
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That's exactly what I thought - my initial reaction was that it's not a good idea... |
petronius |
Oct-26-09 03:56 PM |
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I'm with the OP. I don't care about scatologisms & such, but slurs earn them a mouthful of soap! |
backscatter712 |
Oct-26-09 02:49 PM |
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I don't think it's a big deal |
RidinMyDonkey |
Oct-26-09 02:50 PM |
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Agreed. Bigotry is bad. "Vulgarity" is not. n/t |
Unvanguard |
Oct-26-09 02:51 PM |
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Other: I don't give a shit as long as they learn some fucking context (nt) |
TheKentuckian |
Oct-26-09 02:53 PM |
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+1 |
Fuzz |
Oct-26-09 02:55 PM |
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+1 CONTEXT is everything...parenting is about building judgment skills, not prohibitions |
whoneedstickets |
Oct-26-09 03:49 PM |
#69 |
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I misread your poll: |
Dogtown |
Oct-26-09 02:55 PM |
#39 |
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That's "S Words"... "S Words", Sean.. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-26-09 02:58 PM |
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I don't think parents should encourage/allow swearing. |
proteus_lives |
Oct-26-09 02:56 PM |
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That's what I believe too. n/t |
jesus_of_suburbia |
Oct-26-09 03:02 PM |
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Do you have any evidence swear words demonstrate a lack of vocabulary? nt |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-26-09 03:38 PM |
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It's an opinion people will form. |
proteus_lives |
Oct-26-09 10:47 PM |
#100 |
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Its a matter of children learning respect |
marlakay |
Oct-26-09 02:57 PM |
#42 |
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What does swearing have to do with respect for authority? n/t |
Unvanguard |
Oct-26-09 02:59 PM |
#45 |
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We have not had any problems with swearing at school yet. |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-26-09 03:41 PM |
#64 |
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Newsflash! Kids swear at school! |
Dappleganger |
Oct-27-09 08:39 AM |
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I don't know about "allowed"... I'm not sure they should be encouraged. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-26-09 02:59 PM |
#44 |
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None of it is good |
haroldweeks |
Oct-26-09 03:04 PM |
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Why do you feel swearing is not better than slurs? nt |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-26-09 03:43 PM |
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Hahaha... |
SidDithers |
Oct-26-09 05:00 PM |
#75 |
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Where is option 3) Hell YES |
Vincardog |
Oct-26-09 03:14 PM |
#49 |
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Kids are going to learn coarse langauge anyway. |
Jkid |
Oct-26-09 03:15 PM |
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We call them "adult words" rather than swear words, or bad words... |
SidDithers |
Oct-26-09 03:17 PM |
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LOL I keep seeing the subject as "wear swords"....nt |
LeftHander |
Oct-26-09 03:18 PM |
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I would teach them not to, but not punish them for doing so. |
ieoeja |
Oct-26-09 03:27 PM |
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No, my son is not allowed to swear. |
Lyric |
Oct-26-09 03:38 PM |
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I don't care if they swear, but I don't particularly want to hear |
annabanana |
Oct-26-09 03:45 PM |
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I think it's less about swear words and more about being |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-26-09 03:45 PM |
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I agree - and I think it's easier to first learn how to be polite and courteous, |
petronius |
Oct-26-09 03:58 PM |
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I have four kids |
BluinTX |
Oct-26-09 04:09 PM |
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Nah, likely good parenting! nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-26-09 08:24 PM |
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No, because the little fuckers will use them at the wrong goddamn time. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-26-09 04:58 PM |
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Tinker fucks are stupid toys |
HughMoran |
Oct-26-09 08:28 PM |
#77 |
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Children need to learn self-control... |
JuniperLea |
Oct-26-09 08:29 PM |
#79 |
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Cursing is fine so long as it isn't used to insult someone. |
NYC Liberal |
Oct-26-09 08:35 PM |
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I thought this poll said |
Robb |
Oct-26-09 08:48 PM |
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So for all those who vote 'no' exactly how the fuck do you enforce that fucking stupid rule? |
Warren Stupidity |
Oct-26-09 08:55 PM |
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i jsut asked my working on 15 yr old son. he said no. no... never has been ok, shouldnt be ok |
seabeyond |
Oct-26-09 09:17 PM |
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asked 12 yr old. cuss? he says, no. why i asked. cause it is just wrong. he then tells me |
seabeyond |
Oct-26-09 09:21 PM |
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I have three boys |
Warren Stupidity |
Oct-26-09 09:21 PM |
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exactly. i hear ya |
seabeyond |
Oct-26-09 09:23 PM |
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If you only swear when it really calls for it people will be more shocked and the words will have |
EndersDame |
Oct-26-09 09:00 PM |
#85 |
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You are teaching your children words like |
waiting for hope |
Oct-26-09 09:08 PM |
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My wife and I are not religious and we reject myths as literal truth, |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-26-09 11:07 PM |
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Really - I don't buy into your justification. |
waiting for hope |
Oct-26-09 11:47 PM |
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Your scenarios about my family are myths, every one of them. |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-27-09 03:10 AM |
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You never answered my question - |
waiting for hope |
Oct-27-09 08:25 AM |
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i have been thinking about this thread, and children asked about this thread this morning. |
seabeyond |
Oct-27-09 08:43 AM |
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I thought about that too ... |
waiting for hope |
Oct-28-09 10:18 PM |
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She is nine years old, and the line is drawn at context. |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-27-09 02:06 PM |
#137 |
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That's nice that she is compassionate - |
waiting for hope |
Oct-27-09 09:02 PM |
#141 |
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What is this 'polite society?' |
Dappleganger |
Oct-27-09 08:43 AM |
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Who said that I would allow my children to |
waiting for hope |
Oct-27-09 09:12 AM |
#134 |
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Children according to most people or to the CDC? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-26-09 09:10 PM |
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Most people. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-26-09 11:08 PM |
#105 |
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Sure, my parents allowed us to swear |
Raine |
Oct-26-09 09:19 PM |
#92 |
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Our household rule on swearing is very similar. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-26-09 11:09 PM |
#106 |
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I've known kids who got paid to swear |
Bluenorthwest |
Oct-26-09 09:23 PM |
#95 |
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No. |
Igel |
Oct-26-09 09:25 PM |
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+1 |
waiting for hope |
Oct-26-09 09:29 PM |
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We teach our children when not to swear, and they listen. |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-26-09 11:14 PM |
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I think when they are old enough to know what the word means, yes |
Hippo_Tron |
Oct-26-09 11:02 PM |
#101 |
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Only at the Olive Garden |
Canuckistanian |
Oct-26-09 11:04 PM |
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A prohibition of crude speech is what makes it so attractive to kids in the |
saltpoint |
Oct-26-09 11:04 PM |
#103 |
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I understand the question as |
handmade34 |
Oct-26-09 11:42 PM |
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Allowed by whom? I'm the arbiter of what my kid says, absent controlled situations like schools. |
Zhade |
Oct-26-09 11:14 PM |
#107 |
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Parents. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-26-09 11:16 PM |
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I don't have kids, however... |
a la izquierda |
Oct-26-09 11:27 PM |
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"Let go of the goddamned thing!" is a line in one of Bill Cosby's very |
saltpoint |
Oct-26-09 11:29 PM |
#115 |
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K&R |
old mark |
Oct-27-09 06:45 AM |
#124 |
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Society won't look at your kids favorably |
ecstatic |
Oct-27-09 08:45 AM |
#132 |
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She knows when not to swear. |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-27-09 02:15 PM |
#139 |
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It's pretty silly. I'm a teacher, and we send kids to the Principal for swearing. |
Tutankhamun |
Oct-27-09 09:11 AM |
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I agree, I live next to a playground, and my daughter does not swear as often as many children. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-27-09 02:19 PM |
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We've taught our daughter that "bad words" do not exist, because they're merely dead symbols |
Echo In Light |
Oct-27-09 02:07 PM |
#138 |
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I agree with you completely and raised my own kids with the same rules |
proud2BlibKansan |
Oct-28-09 10:20 PM |
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Kid didn't swear until he got into high school and now he sounds like me. |
lonestarnot |
Oct-28-09 10:20 PM |
#144 |
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discouraging kids from using swear words protects the strength of the emotional reaction they cause. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-29-09 01:24 AM |
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