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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 10:13 AM
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33. no way
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  -Public Option Likely to Be Managed by Private Insurance Company Hissyspit  Oct-24-09 07:44 AM   #0 
  - "administered by a private insurance provider" ??!?. . What the WHAT?  annabanana   Oct-24-09 07:51 AM   #1 
  - Public..Private..they mean exactly the same thing don't they?  Toots   Oct-24-09 08:45 AM   #8 
  - ... and everything is for sale. n/t  daggahead   Oct-24-09 10:40 AM   #39 
  - What next? Will SOCIAL SECURITY be run by a private company???  FormerDittoHead   Oct-24-09 10:53 AM   #46 
     - I wouldn't be surprised.  Nikki Stone1   Oct-24-09 11:03 AM   #50 
     - They're already halfway there  KamaAina   Oct-24-09 11:31 AM   #57 
     - Bush made privatization a central theme of both his '00 and '04 lie-athons known as campaigns.  Union Yes   Oct-24-09 08:27 PM   #95 
  - K&R  Solly Mack   Oct-24-09 07:55 AM   #2 
  - Oh, fuck. Why am I not surprised? n/t  eridani   Oct-24-09 07:57 AM   #3 
  - Ever since the idea of "health reform" was broached  asjr   Oct-24-09 07:59 AM   #4 
  - For people paying attention this is not news.  ipaint   Oct-24-09 08:04 AM   #5 
  - Medicare is administered by private corps through  GinaMaria   Oct-24-09 09:31 AM   #23 
  - That's the exact point made in the article I linked to.  ipaint   Oct-24-09 12:11 PM   #69 
  - Meaning that they are limited to claims processing  eridani   Oct-24-09 08:26 PM   #94 
  - Paying attention to WHAT? Six new stories come out every five minutes. And we have no bill yet.  No Elephants   Oct-24-09 09:47 AM   #28 
  - Agreed.  enlightenment   Oct-24-09 10:38 AM   #38 
  - So it will be neither public nor an option  Bluenorthwest   Oct-24-09 08:08 AM   #6 
  - no but  dana_b   Oct-24-09 10:43 AM   #41 
  - Grateful for the dark humor.  clear eye   Oct-24-09 03:37 PM   #79 
  - The public always has an option, called the republcant option, Die! nt  rhett o rick   Oct-24-09 04:45 PM   #82 
  - Insurance Companies currently administer Medicare.  Hoyt   Oct-24-09 08:36 AM   #7 
  - If the insurance companies are hurt in any way by a pubic option..  annabanana   Oct-24-09 08:47 AM   #10 
  - Incorrect and also  Bluenorthwest   Oct-24-09 08:52 AM   #11 
  - The proposed cuts come from Medicare Advantage.  Lasher   Oct-24-09 11:01 AM   #48 
  - It is correct - this is Medicare A/B - not Medicare Advantage  Ms. Toad   Oct-24-09 12:06 PM   #65 
  - Removing the profit incentive will work.  sulphurdunn   Oct-24-09 08:58 AM   #13 
  - go back to your desk at aetna.  MNDemNY   Oct-24-09 09:04 AM   #16 
  - What is CMS?  Bluenorthwest   Oct-24-09 08:59 AM   #14 
  - the facts are irrevelvant--  madrchsod   Oct-24-09 09:05 AM   #17 
  - As usual around here -  mac56   Oct-24-09 09:10 AM   #20 
  - Ain't it the truth  HughMoran   Oct-24-09 08:22 PM   #93 
  - I work for a health insurance company  CLANG   Oct-24-09 09:57 AM   #30 
     - hi, we work for the same company  TheFarseer   Oct-24-09 10:34 AM   #36 
  - The link in my post above explains exactly what the differences will be  ipaint   Oct-24-09 09:22 AM   #21 
  - But these private insurance run medicare plans are a pain becasue  eagertolearn   Oct-24-09 10:10 AM   #32 
     - you're wrong there: no, not more paperwork  katkat   Oct-24-09 11:10 AM   #53 
        - I'm IN a Medicare Advantage plan  shimmergal   Oct-24-09 05:12 PM   #83 
           - MA plans get paid from gov't fund created by payroll taxes.  clear eye   Oct-25-09 11:07 AM   #104 
  - I think I'll call Chuck & Kirsten and yell at them. tell them to "FIX THIS". . n/t  annabanana   Oct-24-09 08:46 AM   #9 
  - oh well...nothing really new  madrchsod   Oct-24-09 08:55 AM   #12 
  - Oh damn, I wanted volunteer hippy lesbians to run it.  grytpype   Oct-24-09 09:00 AM   #15 
  - i knew a few back in the day...i think i`d be happy with them  madrchsod   Oct-24-09 09:07 AM   #19 
  - Volunteer hippie lesbians could work.  man4allcats   Oct-24-09 09:37 AM   #24 
  - what's wrong with hippy lesbians?  fascisthunter   Oct-24-09 10:17 AM   #34 
  - What is your problem?  slay   Oct-24-09 10:49 AM   #44 
     - I am on a campaign against purity trolls lately.  grytpype   Oct-25-09 06:52 AM   #102 
  - A private insurance company administering the plan is how it should be  Gman   Oct-24-09 09:06 AM   #18 
  - That is how Tenncare is run....  ingac70   Oct-24-09 09:45 AM   #27 
  - There was nothing wrong with Tenncare.  sudopod   Oct-24-09 11:21 AM   #54 
     - wow -- did you ever try to actually use TennCare. I did -- and it sucked. no one accepted it...  nashville_brook   Oct-24-09 07:06 PM   #89 
     - Mismanagement? Private insurers manage it.  ingac70   Oct-24-09 08:00 PM   #90 
  - Um, no. The people employed by insurance companies run rings around government regulation.  closeupready   Oct-24-09 09:50 AM   #29 
  - You clearly don't understand what this means  Gman   Oct-24-09 12:07 PM   #66 
  - Wow the PRO-INSURANCE COMPANY shills are really coming out of the woodwork today  slay   Oct-24-09 10:51 AM   #45 
     - You're another that clearly has no clue what this means  Gman   Oct-24-09 12:08 PM   #67 
  - With some stringent regulation such as ceilings on executive pay this might work.  bertman   Oct-24-09 09:22 AM   #22 
  - ...  tmyers09   Oct-24-09 09:41 AM   #25 
  - Ugh. Then it will be a failure. n/t  ingac70   Oct-24-09 09:42 AM   #26 
  - Really?  SEANdoody   Oct-24-09 09:58 AM   #31 
  - no way  fascisthunter   Oct-24-09 10:13 AM   #33 
  - Medicaid in MN was always managed by Blue Cross/Blue Shield.  jwirr   Oct-24-09 10:20 AM   #35 
  - Beat me to it  azurnoir   Oct-24-09 10:41 AM   #40 
  - Still do.  jwirr   Oct-24-09 11:50 AM   #62 
  - That's a little different - I think  Ms. Toad   Oct-24-09 12:09 PM   #68 
  - They never fucking quit, huh?  DireStrike   Oct-24-09 10:34 AM   #37 
  - I am slowly giving up on the Democratic Party.  OHdem10   Oct-24-09 10:43 AM   #42 
  - Got damn this is some bullshit.  budkin   Oct-24-09 10:49 AM   #43 
  - No, No, No!  Jkid   Oct-24-09 10:58 AM   #47 
  - I feel as if I'm going to throw up. Wait . . . can't do that . . .  Vinca   Oct-24-09 11:02 AM   #49 
  - Fight back everyone, that is what we have had to do for a long time, so  Jefferson23   Oct-24-09 11:03 AM   #51 
  - wait  katkat   Oct-24-09 11:03 AM   #52 
  - You always hear about those millons of poor insurance co workers  sudopod   Oct-24-09 11:23 AM   #55 
  - Many years ago I worked with medical billing for a medical  JimWis   Oct-24-09 11:31 AM   #56 
  - "a public* insurer wouldn't need to generate profits."  KamaAina   Oct-24-09 11:35 AM   #58 
  - Once for profits are let in, the non-profits have to start acting the same way or die  eridani   Oct-24-09 08:33 PM   #97 
  - I have to admit, I'm a bit surprised by the reaction on this thread  customerserviceguy   Oct-24-09 11:40 AM   #59 
  - Take your PRIVATE OPTION and shove it up your private ...  Piewhacket   Oct-24-09 11:44 AM   #60 
  - If Private plans are more better... then what the beef with a govmt run option.  Piewhacket   Oct-24-09 11:48 AM   #61 
  - So who's the lucky insurer that gets to play Blackwater with our tax dollars? nt  Not Sure   Oct-24-09 11:50 AM   #63 
  - "Any public plan is likely to have a relatively narrow scope"  PSPS   Oct-24-09 11:57 AM   #64 
  - In other words it'd be run like Medicare  SpartanDem   Oct-24-09 12:11 PM   #70 
  - Read the bills. This is the same model as Medicare A/B  Ms. Toad   Oct-24-09 12:17 PM   #71 
  - Here's where the purists need to step aside,  Gman   Oct-24-09 12:26 PM   #72 
  - Any giveaway to the Insurance Industry (Death Merchants)  Kansas Wyatt   Oct-24-09 12:28 PM   #73 
  - it's only been 9 months! he has so many problems to clean up! waah!  MisterP   Oct-24-09 02:07 PM   #74 
  - omg -- nailed it.  nashville_brook   Oct-24-09 07:00 PM   #88 
  - knr - best to read the articles by Kip Sullivan, in this article he talks...  slipslidingaway   Oct-24-09 02:56 PM   #75 
  - Important - Is it one plan or several plans. nt  slipslidingaway   Oct-24-09 02:58 PM   #76 
  - "around two to four percent" ..yeah right ...more like 30-40%+  wroberts189   Oct-24-09 03:02 PM   #77 
  - Furthermore, the premiums are required to match those of the private plans  clear eye   Oct-24-09 03:32 PM   #78 
  - Correction  clear eye   Oct-24-09 04:37 PM   #81 
  - I can see the writing on the wall here in many of the replies to this op  ooglymoogly   Oct-24-09 03:52 PM   #80 
  - The biggest problem will be the cost via taxes falling on the middle class and no benefit to economy  clear eye   Oct-24-09 05:34 PM   #84 
  - How public will it be then?  RoccoR5955   Oct-24-09 05:56 PM   #85 
  - Didn't the CBO look at three House bills?  JNelson6563   Oct-24-09 06:02 PM   #86 
  - The one they refused to look at was the Weiner single-payer amended bill.  clear eye   Oct-24-09 08:14 PM   #92 
  - SCREWED AGAIN!!!  Fire1sKid   Oct-24-09 06:03 PM   #87 
  - What a boondoggle for insurance companies!  Horse with no Name   Oct-24-09 08:04 PM   #91 
  - No, it's pure speculation if you follow the links to the original  johnaries   Oct-24-09 08:32 PM   #96 
  - WTF  grahamhgreen   Oct-24-09 11:37 PM   #98 
  - Threads already filling up with why  Jakes Progress   Oct-25-09 12:03 AM   #99 
  - Ain't that the truth. And some are already defending this. The narrative has been set.  saracat   Oct-25-09 02:52 AM   #101 
     - Not just defending.. Celebrating the victory.  Jakes Progress   Oct-25-09 10:43 AM   #103 
  - fox, henhouse  eShirl   Oct-25-09 12:04 AM   #100 
 

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