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Sat Oct-24-09 08:55 AM
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| 12. oh well...nothing really new |
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two staff writers get their day in the sun by writing a summation of this week`s "dithering" in the saturday `s edition of the washington post.
tomorrow will be the big day! everyone on the teevee morning circle jerks will have the inside scoop on what is really going on with the public option.
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| -Public Option Likely to Be Managed by Private Insurance Company |
Hissyspit |
Oct-24-09 07:44 AM |
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"administered by a private insurance provider" ??!?. . What the WHAT? |
annabanana |
Oct-24-09 07:51 AM |
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Public..Private..they mean exactly the same thing don't they? |
Toots |
Oct-24-09 08:45 AM |
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... and everything is for sale. n/t |
daggahead |
Oct-24-09 10:40 AM |
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What next? Will SOCIAL SECURITY be run by a private company??? |
FormerDittoHead |
Oct-24-09 10:53 AM |
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I wouldn't be surprised. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-24-09 11:03 AM |
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They're already halfway there |
KamaAina |
Oct-24-09 11:31 AM |
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Bush made privatization a central theme of both his '00 and '04 lie-athons known as campaigns. |
Union Yes |
Oct-24-09 08:27 PM |
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K&R |
Solly Mack |
Oct-24-09 07:55 AM |
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Oh, fuck. Why am I not surprised? n/t |
eridani |
Oct-24-09 07:57 AM |
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Ever since the idea of "health reform" was broached |
asjr |
Oct-24-09 07:59 AM |
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For people paying attention this is not news. |
ipaint |
Oct-24-09 08:04 AM |
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Medicare is administered by private corps through |
GinaMaria |
Oct-24-09 09:31 AM |
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That's the exact point made in the article I linked to. |
ipaint |
Oct-24-09 12:11 PM |
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Meaning that they are limited to claims processing |
eridani |
Oct-24-09 08:26 PM |
#94 |
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Paying attention to WHAT? Six new stories come out every five minutes. And we have no bill yet. |
No Elephants |
Oct-24-09 09:47 AM |
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Agreed. |
enlightenment |
Oct-24-09 10:38 AM |
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So it will be neither public nor an option |
Bluenorthwest |
Oct-24-09 08:08 AM |
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no but |
dana_b |
Oct-24-09 10:43 AM |
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Grateful for the dark humor. |
clear eye |
Oct-24-09 03:37 PM |
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The public always has an option, called the republcant option, Die! nt |
rhett o rick |
Oct-24-09 04:45 PM |
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Insurance Companies currently administer Medicare. |
Hoyt |
Oct-24-09 08:36 AM |
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If the insurance companies are hurt in any way by a pubic option.. |
annabanana |
Oct-24-09 08:47 AM |
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Incorrect and also |
Bluenorthwest |
Oct-24-09 08:52 AM |
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The proposed cuts come from Medicare Advantage. |
Lasher |
Oct-24-09 11:01 AM |
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It is correct - this is Medicare A/B - not Medicare Advantage |
Ms. Toad |
Oct-24-09 12:06 PM |
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Removing the profit incentive will work. |
sulphurdunn |
Oct-24-09 08:58 AM |
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go back to your desk at aetna. |
MNDemNY |
Oct-24-09 09:04 AM |
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What is CMS? |
Bluenorthwest |
Oct-24-09 08:59 AM |
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the facts are irrevelvant-- |
madrchsod |
Oct-24-09 09:05 AM |
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As usual around here - |
mac56 |
Oct-24-09 09:10 AM |
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Ain't it the truth |
HughMoran |
Oct-24-09 08:22 PM |
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I work for a health insurance company |
CLANG |
Oct-24-09 09:57 AM |
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hi, we work for the same company |
TheFarseer |
Oct-24-09 10:34 AM |
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The link in my post above explains exactly what the differences will be |
ipaint |
Oct-24-09 09:22 AM |
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But these private insurance run medicare plans are a pain becasue |
eagertolearn |
Oct-24-09 10:10 AM |
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you're wrong there: no, not more paperwork |
katkat |
Oct-24-09 11:10 AM |
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I'm IN a Medicare Advantage plan |
shimmergal |
Oct-24-09 05:12 PM |
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MA plans get paid from gov't fund created by payroll taxes. |
clear eye |
Oct-25-09 11:07 AM |
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I think I'll call Chuck & Kirsten and yell at them. tell them to "FIX THIS". . n/t |
annabanana |
Oct-24-09 08:46 AM |
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oh well...nothing really new |
madrchsod |
Oct-24-09 08:55 AM |
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Oh damn, I wanted volunteer hippy lesbians to run it. |
grytpype |
Oct-24-09 09:00 AM |
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i knew a few back in the day...i think i`d be happy with them |
madrchsod |
Oct-24-09 09:07 AM |
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Volunteer hippie lesbians could work. |
man4allcats |
Oct-24-09 09:37 AM |
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what's wrong with hippy lesbians? |
fascisthunter |
Oct-24-09 10:17 AM |
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What is your problem? |
slay |
Oct-24-09 10:49 AM |
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I am on a campaign against purity trolls lately. |
grytpype |
Oct-25-09 06:52 AM |
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A private insurance company administering the plan is how it should be |
Gman |
Oct-24-09 09:06 AM |
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That is how Tenncare is run.... |
ingac70 |
Oct-24-09 09:45 AM |
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There was nothing wrong with Tenncare. |
sudopod |
Oct-24-09 11:21 AM |
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wow -- did you ever try to actually use TennCare. I did -- and it sucked. no one accepted it... |
nashville_brook |
Oct-24-09 07:06 PM |
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Mismanagement? Private insurers manage it. |
ingac70 |
Oct-24-09 08:00 PM |
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Um, no. The people employed by insurance companies run rings around government regulation. |
closeupready |
Oct-24-09 09:50 AM |
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You clearly don't understand what this means |
Gman |
Oct-24-09 12:07 PM |
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Wow the PRO-INSURANCE COMPANY shills are really coming out of the woodwork today |
slay |
Oct-24-09 10:51 AM |
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You're another that clearly has no clue what this means |
Gman |
Oct-24-09 12:08 PM |
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With some stringent regulation such as ceilings on executive pay this might work. |
bertman |
Oct-24-09 09:22 AM |
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... |
tmyers09 |
Oct-24-09 09:41 AM |
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Ugh. Then it will be a failure. n/t |
ingac70 |
Oct-24-09 09:42 AM |
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Really? |
SEANdoody |
Oct-24-09 09:58 AM |
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no way |
fascisthunter |
Oct-24-09 10:13 AM |
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Medicaid in MN was always managed by Blue Cross/Blue Shield. |
jwirr |
Oct-24-09 10:20 AM |
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Beat me to it |
azurnoir |
Oct-24-09 10:41 AM |
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Still do. |
jwirr |
Oct-24-09 11:50 AM |
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That's a little different - I think |
Ms. Toad |
Oct-24-09 12:09 PM |
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They never fucking quit, huh? |
DireStrike |
Oct-24-09 10:34 AM |
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I am slowly giving up on the Democratic Party. |
OHdem10 |
Oct-24-09 10:43 AM |
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Got damn this is some bullshit. |
budkin |
Oct-24-09 10:49 AM |
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No, No, No! |
Jkid |
Oct-24-09 10:58 AM |
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I feel as if I'm going to throw up. Wait . . . can't do that . . . |
Vinca |
Oct-24-09 11:02 AM |
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Fight back everyone, that is what we have had to do for a long time, so |
Jefferson23 |
Oct-24-09 11:03 AM |
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wait |
katkat |
Oct-24-09 11:03 AM |
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You always hear about those millons of poor insurance co workers |
sudopod |
Oct-24-09 11:23 AM |
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Many years ago I worked with medical billing for a medical |
JimWis |
Oct-24-09 11:31 AM |
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"a public* insurer wouldn't need to generate profits." |
KamaAina |
Oct-24-09 11:35 AM |
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Once for profits are let in, the non-profits have to start acting the same way or die |
eridani |
Oct-24-09 08:33 PM |
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I have to admit, I'm a bit surprised by the reaction on this thread |
customerserviceguy |
Oct-24-09 11:40 AM |
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Take your PRIVATE OPTION and shove it up your private ... |
Piewhacket |
Oct-24-09 11:44 AM |
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If Private plans are more better... then what the beef with a govmt run option. |
Piewhacket |
Oct-24-09 11:48 AM |
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So who's the lucky insurer that gets to play Blackwater with our tax dollars? nt |
Not Sure |
Oct-24-09 11:50 AM |
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"Any public plan is likely to have a relatively narrow scope" |
PSPS |
Oct-24-09 11:57 AM |
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In other words it'd be run like Medicare |
SpartanDem |
Oct-24-09 12:11 PM |
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Read the bills. This is the same model as Medicare A/B |
Ms. Toad |
Oct-24-09 12:17 PM |
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Here's where the purists need to step aside, |
Gman |
Oct-24-09 12:26 PM |
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Any giveaway to the Insurance Industry (Death Merchants) |
Kansas Wyatt |
Oct-24-09 12:28 PM |
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it's only been 9 months! he has so many problems to clean up! waah! |
MisterP |
Oct-24-09 02:07 PM |
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omg -- nailed it. |
nashville_brook |
Oct-24-09 07:00 PM |
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knr - best to read the articles by Kip Sullivan, in this article he talks... |
slipslidingaway |
Oct-24-09 02:56 PM |
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Important - Is it one plan or several plans. nt |
slipslidingaway |
Oct-24-09 02:58 PM |
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"around two to four percent" ..yeah right ...more like 30-40%+ |
wroberts189 |
Oct-24-09 03:02 PM |
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Furthermore, the premiums are required to match those of the private plans |
clear eye |
Oct-24-09 03:32 PM |
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Correction |
clear eye |
Oct-24-09 04:37 PM |
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I can see the writing on the wall here in many of the replies to this op |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-24-09 03:52 PM |
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The biggest problem will be the cost via taxes falling on the middle class and no benefit to economy |
clear eye |
Oct-24-09 05:34 PM |
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How public will it be then? |
RoccoR5955 |
Oct-24-09 05:56 PM |
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Didn't the CBO look at three House bills? |
JNelson6563 |
Oct-24-09 06:02 PM |
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The one they refused to look at was the Weiner single-payer amended bill. |
clear eye |
Oct-24-09 08:14 PM |
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SCREWED AGAIN!!! |
Fire1sKid |
Oct-24-09 06:03 PM |
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What a boondoggle for insurance companies! |
Horse with no Name |
Oct-24-09 08:04 PM |
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No, it's pure speculation if you follow the links to the original |
johnaries |
Oct-24-09 08:32 PM |
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WTF |
grahamhgreen |
Oct-24-09 11:37 PM |
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Threads already filling up with why |
Jakes Progress |
Oct-25-09 12:03 AM |
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Ain't that the truth. And some are already defending this. The narrative has been set. |
saracat |
Oct-25-09 02:52 AM |
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Not just defending.. Celebrating the victory. |
Jakes Progress |
Oct-25-09 10:43 AM |
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fox, henhouse |
eShirl |
Oct-25-09 12:04 AM |
#100 |
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