Reply #14: I'm tired of this issue being framed in terms of commodity and consumer

[Cleita]

by our own Democrats. This is a matter of health care access for those who need a doctor and treatment for a health problem. Everyone should have a health card regardless of their ability to pay. Every doctor and hospital should expect reasonable reimbursement for their services through that health card. We need to have that health card accessible to all who want to buy into it and available to those who can't buy into it like children, seniors and the disabled. This will take a national insurance plan that covers basic, comprehensive and quality health care. It needs to include health care providers in the conversation as to what they need for reimbursement for their services. But no health care providers other than the ultra-conservative AMA are the only ones who have a voice in this. The other doctors and nurses who want to be included are given token hearings or shut out altogether. I personally can't see where private health insurance plans are useful in any way to solve this problem and yet they are given unheard of access to our politicians to butt in as far as I'm concerned. They need to get out of the way.