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Reply #38: It's because we've called it a "choice" not a RIGHT! [View All]

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38. It's because we've called it a "choice" not a RIGHT!Updated at 3:09 AM
Edited on Fri Oct-23-09 11:34 PM by intheflow
I hate that term, choice, because it's as polite and milquetoast and unambiguous as saying gay people are living a lifestyle choice! :puke:

It's not about the woman's right to choose whether or not to keep a fetus, it's about a woman's right to control her own body! Once we abdicated that argument, once we gave up that basic human right--to control one's own body and destiny--by coyly referring to it as a choice, we elevated a (undevelped human) fetus' rights above a (fully developed) woman's human rights.
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  The Pro-Choice movement is losing steam madfloridian  Oct-23-09 01:14 AM   #0 
   Rights that were fought for...so tenaciously, and with so much sacrifice, are being  BrklynLiberal   Oct-23-09 01:33 AM   #1 
   Odd that support for choice went down when he took office.  madfloridian   Oct-23-09 01:39 AM   #2 
   I don't believe that, not for a minute.  Warren DeMontague   Oct-23-09 01:44 AM   #4 
   I've gotta agree with your assessment  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-23-09 01:47 AM   #5 
   No doubt. We need to point out just how nutty the anti-choice zealots actually are.  Warren DeMontague   Oct-23-09 01:54 AM   #6 
   Agreed that is what we need to do. But we are not.  madfloridian   Oct-23-09 02:03 AM   #7 
      I think some of the fear to engage on it is driven by this "all powerful values voter" nonsense, too  Warren DeMontague   Oct-23-09 02:37 AM   #11 
         That's sort of my point. Our side feels guilty for not being "good" or Christian enough.  madfloridian   Oct-23-09 01:38 PM   #28 
            Ceding the terms of the argument before we even start having it.  Warren DeMontague   Oct-23-09 02:44 PM   #31 
               Sadly that is true.  madfloridian   Oct-24-09 11:41 PM   #46 
   We let them set the agenda for too long.  madfloridian   Oct-23-09 02:04 AM   #8 
   +1  redqueen   Oct-23-09 12:10 PM   #23 
   Yep. I was there!!!! Media coverage was nil.  BrklynLiberal   Oct-23-09 01:21 PM   #25 
      I was there, too. CNN spent the day talking about Estee Lauder's death.  Warren DeMontague   Oct-23-09 02:46 PM   #32 
   Did it?  nxylas   Oct-23-09 06:54 AM   #17 
      Yes, I saw that number....I was referring to the Pew poll.  madfloridian   Oct-23-09 11:52 AM   #20 
   I could not agree more. It is very sad. nt  SPedigrees   Oct-23-09 01:40 AM   #3 
   This film should be required viewing in all high school American history classes  PeaceNikki   Oct-23-09 06:47 AM   #16 
   Awesome movie!!!  BrklynLiberal   Oct-23-09 01:23 PM   #26 
   Agreed.  Le Taz Hot   Oct-23-09 06:54 AM   #18 
   Well said!  hamsterjill   Oct-23-09 12:27 PM   #24 
   And to think our Government, which the Democratic Party controls, won't take a stand  saracat   Oct-23-09 02:14 AM   #9 
   Good point.  madfloridian   Oct-23-09 03:31 PM   #34 
   calling it choice seems to disregard babies, calling it what it is-birth control  KakistocracyHater   Oct-23-09 02:33 AM   #10 
   I don't understand most of this reply.  PeaceNikki   Oct-23-09 06:31 AM   #13 
   Wow. That's some crazy stream-of-consciousness stuff there, tiger. nt  Codeine   Oct-23-09 06:57 AM   #19 
   k/r  Solly Mack   Oct-23-09 06:16 AM   #12 
   Young women don't remember what it was like before choice  theHandpuppet   Oct-23-09 06:36 AM   #14 
   That is why those of us who do remember must speak out.  madfloridian   Oct-23-09 11:58 AM   #22 
   Indeed. And we need to pay close attention to all of the anti-choice legislation that states are  PeaceNikki   Oct-23-09 06:42 AM   #15 
   Great post about the trojan donkeys. Adding to it with a page from NARAL  madfloridian   Oct-23-09 11:57 AM   #21 
   I know many women in their 20s, and all of them are pro-choice. (more)  krabigirl   Oct-23-09 01:36 PM   #27 
   Yes, that is what I meant by "losing steam". Taking it for granted.  madfloridian   Oct-23-09 01:42 PM   #30 
   I have talked to my daughter alot about this subject  liberal_at_heart   Oct-23-09 01:39 PM   #29 
   Related article: Pro-Life Pretense  Blue State Blues   Oct-23-09 03:12 PM   #33 
   every female I have asked claims to be pro-choice  fascisthunter   Oct-23-09 03:35 PM   #35 
   I grew up in the Bad Old Days of back-alley abortions and finding doctors who would  bertman   Oct-23-09 10:46 PM   #36 
   being a vasectomized male- it just isn't my issue.  dysfunctional press   Oct-23-09 11:01 PM   #37 
   It's because we've called it a "choice" not a RIGHT!  intheflow   Oct-23-09 11:13 PM   #38 
   I have to agree. n/t  Greyhound   Oct-23-09 11:17 PM   #39 
   And some Democratic men are more than willing to compromise  undeterred   Oct-23-09 11:23 PM   #40 
   A kick from a NARAL member  Zomby Woof   Oct-23-09 11:30 PM   #41 
   The job never ends!  Neitzluber   Oct-24-09 12:50 AM   #42 
   I agree.  madfloridian   Oct-24-09 04:10 PM   #45 
   Where have the Goldwaters gone?  snake in the grass   Oct-24-09 02:32 AM   #43 
   k i c k  defendandprotect   Oct-24-09 02:42 AM   #44 
   We need to emphasize the danger to women (warning-pics)  BlancheSplanchnik   Oct-25-09 03:24 PM   #47 
 

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