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Reply #27: Since when was Star-Spangled Banner used as a foundation of American law & government? [View All]

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27. Since when was Star-Spangled Banner used as a foundation of American law & government?Updated at 3:09 AM
Edited on Fri Oct-23-09 12:04 AM by intheflow
Because that's what also included in the new proposed display entitled "Foundations of American Law and Government! :crazy: I like what Vonnegut had to say about our national anthem:

Trout and Hoover were citizens of the United States of America, a country which was called America for short. This was their national anthem, which was pure balderdash, like so much they were expected to take seriously:

O, say can you see by the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming,
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thru the perilous fight
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
O, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

There were one quadrillion nations in the Universe, but the nation Dwayne Hoover and Kilgore Trout belonged to was the only one with a national anthem which was gibberish sprinkled with question marks.

Breakfast of Champions


Really and truly, the only thing in their lame-o would-be display is the Constitution. If they really wanted a display of the principles of law and government we were founded on, they'd include the Magna Carta, the story of the Six Nations (Iroquois Confederacy), and the Emancipation Proclamation and leave the Ten Commandments and and our meaningless, war-loving, flag-worshipping national anthem the fuck out of it.

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  Ten Commandments: Secular or religious? usregimechange  Oct-22-09 08:56 PM   #0 
   Considering that it begins "I am the Lord Thy God"..I'd have to vote "religious"  ddeclue   Oct-22-09 08:57 PM   #1 
   Tell me about it  usregimechange   Oct-22-09 08:58 PM   #3 
   Perhaps, but one could envision sufficient intellectual camouflage.  imdjh   Oct-22-09 09:12 PM   #9 
   If they did use the evolution of law then they would have to provide  LiberalFighter   Oct-22-09 09:25 PM   #13 
      I don't think they believe in evolution ... of law.  Blue State Blues   Oct-23-09 01:56 PM   #30 
   lol  paulsby   Oct-22-09 11:13 PM   #24 
   Those who want to see the ten commandments can shove them up their steeple.  TexasObserver   Oct-22-09 08:58 PM   #2 
   Excellent! Well put, so to say! n/t  RKP5637   Oct-22-09 09:02 PM   #5 
      Most of the churches don't display the Ten Commandments!  TexasObserver   Oct-22-09 09:14 PM   #11 
         The Ten Commandments are like Jesus in a Tortilla. People believe they are everywhere.  imdjh   Oct-22-09 09:45 PM   #17 
         Many RW'ers don't play with a full deck. Here's something you might find interesting ...  RKP5637   Oct-22-09 10:35 PM   #19 
         Most of the churches in my county DO display the 10 commandments.  greendog   Oct-22-09 10:55 PM   #21 
            Not here. They love to talk about the 10 commandments ...  TexasObserver   Oct-22-09 11:00 PM   #22 
               We have them at the County Courthouse as well.  greendog   Oct-22-09 11:10 PM   #23 
                  Do they all say the same or do they twist them around to suit their needs ...  RKP5637   Oct-22-09 11:27 PM   #25 
                     They aren't particularly legible from a distance but they're probably...  greendog   Oct-23-09 12:48 AM   #28 
                        They do look pretty similar... from the same place. To me religion today is ...  RKP5637   Oct-23-09 08:36 AM   #29 
   The First Amendment to The Constitution voided the first four commandants. n/t  Ian David   Oct-22-09 08:59 PM   #4 
   ding ding ding  imdjh   Oct-22-09 09:14 PM   #10 
   If they display George Carlin's version of the 10 commandments, then I'd agree it's secular  MajorChode   Oct-22-09 09:04 PM   #6 
   5 - 10 are pretty much universal  madrchsod   Oct-22-09 09:05 PM   #7 
   The first five commandments are on how to worship God.  mn9driver   Oct-22-09 09:06 PM   #8 
   I think that's the simplest description  Canuckistanian   Oct-22-09 09:24 PM   #12 
   Who would ever claim that they are "secular"?  PeaceNikki   Oct-22-09 09:26 PM   #14 
   This should help  MajorChode   Oct-22-09 10:31 PM   #18 
   What about the Buddhist Five Precepts?  Speck Tater   Oct-22-09 09:27 PM   #15 
   Well I am ok on one out of 5  The Straight Story   Oct-22-09 11:29 PM   #26 
   Th ejoke here is that the public displaying of them started out as a PR movie stunt  SoCalDem   Oct-22-09 09:31 PM   #16 
   I'd say that the Ten Suggestions are definitely religious.  damntexdem   Oct-22-09 10:41 PM   #20 
   Since when was Star-Spangled Banner used as a foundation of American law & government?  intheflow   Oct-23-09 12:03 AM   #27 
   Tribal...and I don't belong to that tribe (they mean jack to me)  mitchum   Oct-23-09 02:53 PM   #31 
   They're not claiming that the 10 commandments are secular.  Jim__   Oct-23-09 03:17 PM   #32 
   Deleted for reasons of doctrinal illiteracy  SidneyCarton   Oct-23-09 03:24 PM   #33 
   Oh but you you can't expect some dirty old geezer  LeftHander   Oct-23-09 03:31 PM   #34 
   Well the Ten Commandments are in the scriptures of TWO major religions.  yellowcanine   Oct-23-09 03:51 PM   #35 
 

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