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34. This one says that most people who call themselves "poor" are like this woman:
Edited on Tue Oct-20-09 01:42 PM by closeupready
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I'm being sarcastic, by the way. I actually have extended family who are Native American - I don't know which nation or tribe, but they are from Northern Wisconsin. Blackhawks?

The photos at the blog are quite sad.
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  -"Pine Ridge is the scariest place Ive ever been more so than in a Taliban ambush, Wetzelbill  Oct-20-09 05:13 AM   #0 
  - k/r  ccharles000   Oct-20-09 05:27 AM   #1 
  - Correction to OP (put up here as reply for people might see)"NOT more so than in a Taliban ambush"..  uppityperson   Oct-20-09 01:53 PM   #37 
  - K&R. . . . . . n/t  annabanana   Oct-20-09 05:55 AM   #2 
  - Heavens.  Delphinus   Oct-20-09 06:13 AM   #3 
  - k/r  piratefish08   Oct-20-09 06:23 AM   #4 
  - As someone that has been to Pine Ridge many times I can agree  newfie11   Oct-20-09 06:36 AM   #5 
  - that I know of  Wetzelbill   Oct-20-09 06:51 AM   #7 
  - Same holds true for some areas on the Reservations in northern MN also.  glinda   Oct-20-09 08:49 PM   #94 
  - I have to say that, as a white chick, I've experienced very  liberalhistorian   Oct-20-09 01:35 PM   #31 
  - My experiences as well. nt  mikekohr   Oct-20-09 07:22 PM   #77 
  - When I spent time on or near the Rez(s), my closest and best friends were Native American. My  glinda   Oct-20-09 08:51 PM   #95 
  - Its an awful legacy  roguevalley   Oct-20-09 02:36 PM   #45 
  - Part of the reason for the alcoholism is that Native people lack an enzyme  Lorien   Oct-20-09 11:27 PM   #114 
     - I think that may be it. People with the longest use of alcohol, wine  roguevalley   Oct-22-09 02:19 PM   #138 
  - they can't sell their homes, but they could sell their land to white ranchers?  Hannah Bell   Oct-20-09 02:59 PM   #50 
  - Here is one way in which these leases came to be:  mikekohr   Oct-20-09 07:11 PM   #75 
  - it doesn't quite answer my question, though. i'm still confused.  Hannah Bell   Oct-21-09 02:27 AM   #118 
     - ok I will go further  newfie11   Oct-21-09 08:05 AM   #125 
        - better, thanks for the info.  Hannah Bell   Oct-21-09 02:32 PM   #136 
  - That holds true for some areas in northern Mn also. I bought a small farm on "leased"  glinda   Oct-20-09 08:53 PM   #96 
  - As someone who knew a lot abt this circa 1970's  truedelphi   Oct-20-09 03:23 PM   #53 
  - Your description & the pictures are what I saw there 37 years ago.  jwirr   Oct-20-09 04:05 PM   #58 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-20-09 06:44 AM   #6 
  - goes much deeper than Bush  Wetzelbill   Oct-20-09 06:52 AM   #8 
     - I agree this was not started by Bush  newfie11   Oct-20-09 07:11 AM   #9 
        - It wasn't started by Bush...  a la izquierda   Oct-20-09 07:34 AM   #13 
        - it's not that far off from the ideas  Wetzelbill   Oct-20-09 07:48 AM   #14 
           - It's called genocide. 95% mortality rate among aboriginal peoples in the Americas  leveymg   Oct-20-09 05:23 PM   #65 
              - I wouldn't say that  Wetzelbill   Oct-20-09 08:19 PM   #86 
                 - I suppose if WWIV continued for 350 years or escalated, the mortality rate might be comparable  leveymg   Oct-21-09 03:07 AM   #120 
                    - kind of, but going way deeper than the point  Wetzelbill   Oct-21-09 03:50 AM   #123 
        - well if it helps  Wetzelbill   Oct-20-09 07:49 AM   #15 
           - Yeah, it's as simple as blaming Republicans. Jesus.  Dreamer Tatum   Oct-20-09 01:58 PM   #39 
              - One would think that in the history of Native American suffering, there had never been a Democrat  cherokeeprogressive   Oct-20-09 02:01 PM   #41 
              - That, to me, is the ultimate proof that throwing money at them solves nothing. nt  Dreamer Tatum   Oct-20-09 02:17 PM   #43 
              - yeah well nobody has ever done that  Wetzelbill   Oct-20-09 08:23 PM   #89 
              - Democratic administrations and politicians are not blameless, Jackson comes to mind.  mikekohr   Oct-20-09 07:20 PM   #76 
                 - I can think of SLIGHTLY more contemporary ones. nt  Dreamer Tatum   Oct-20-09 09:47 PM   #104 
              - This reminds me of Oakland  XemaSab   Oct-20-09 08:10 PM   #84 
              - I never said it was nt  Wetzelbill   Oct-20-09 08:21 PM   #87 
  - K&R  Soylent Brice   Oct-20-09 07:25 AM   #10 
  - Pine Ridge is scary because it is without hope.  Brickbat   Oct-20-09 07:27 AM   #11 
  - Spent lot of my youth in and near Sisseton Reservation...NE SD  LeftHander   Oct-20-09 07:32 AM   #12 
  - Recommended.  H2O Man   Oct-20-09 07:51 AM   #16 
  - you're welcome H20  Wetzelbill   Oct-20-09 07:56 AM   #18 
  - I feel so bad right now .....  Botany   Oct-20-09 07:51 AM   #17 
  - Thanks for the post.  LWolf   Oct-20-09 08:02 AM   #19 
  - Recommended.  Heidi   Oct-20-09 09:05 AM   #20 
  - VEry, very sad  AngryAmish   Oct-20-09 09:11 AM   #21 
  - The Friends of Pine Ridge has a site that gives you a place  Crabby Appleton   Oct-20-09 09:53 AM   #22 
  - Thank you for this. I have often thought it would be  truedelphi   Oct-20-09 03:32 PM   #56 
  - thank you.  shireen   Oct-20-09 04:26 PM   #61 
  - K and R  femrap   Oct-20-09 10:30 AM   #23 
  - Not a bad idea!  KamaAina   Oct-20-09 01:50 PM   #35 
  - Are you sure about that?  XemaSab   Oct-20-09 08:13 PM   #85 
  - other way around  Wetzelbill   Oct-20-09 08:30 PM   #90 
  - I think that hemp will grow there. The problem is that the DEA won't allow them to.  Altoid_Cyclist   Oct-20-09 01:56 PM   #38 
     - Thank you for the links. nt  femrap   Oct-20-09 05:53 PM   #70 
     - You're welcome.  Altoid_Cyclist   Oct-21-09 03:20 AM   #122 
        - It's beyond sad.  femrap   Oct-21-09 10:41 AM   #131 
           - I'd have to go back and read the article again or watch the documentary.  Altoid_Cyclist   Oct-21-09 12:51 PM   #133 
     - Alex White Plume has grown bumper crops of Industrial Hemp on Pine Ridge  mikekohr   Oct-20-09 07:44 PM   #79 
        - It's a shame that the DEA is allowed to still do this.  Altoid_Cyclist   Oct-21-09 03:18 AM   #121 
  - I drove through there this summer. The road coming out of the Badlands in the  cbayer   Oct-20-09 11:09 AM   #24 
  - Shameful. Agreed. nt  BlueIris   Oct-20-09 11:21 AM   #25 
  - They might have a better chance if the government would stop controlling the lands...  winyanstaz   Oct-20-09 12:37 PM   #26 
  - I wish there was more representation of Native Americans in Congress or even the Executive Branch  Rosa Luxemburg   Oct-20-09 09:31 PM   #103 
  - Powerful photos, insightful interview...  yellerpup   Oct-20-09 01:12 PM   #27 
  - from the article  dana_b   Oct-20-09 01:25 PM   #28 
  - Yeah, but wait, back up! How many of those on the reservation actually make $300,000 per year?  closeupready   Oct-20-09 01:29 PM   #29 
  - What's your point?  Dreamer Tatum   Oct-20-09 01:38 PM   #33 
     - This one says that most people who call themselves "poor" are like this woman:  closeupready   Oct-20-09 01:41 PM   #34 
        - Blackhawk was a leader, not a tribe.  Jackpine Radical   Oct-20-09 02:56 PM   #48 
           - Shows you what I know. I think Chippewa, though.  closeupready   Oct-20-09 03:06 PM   #51 
           - The Chippewa are certainly the largest group. Also for the most part the furthest north.  Jackpine Radical   Oct-20-09 06:01 PM   #71 
              - You mean the Annishinabe don't you? Chippewa is a slander term.  glinda   Oct-20-09 08:57 PM   #97 
                 - Actually, Chippewa isn't so much slander  catbyte   Oct-21-09 08:18 AM   #126 
                    - Both Ojibwa and Chippewa are corruptions of the original word  Jackpine Radical   Oct-21-09 09:14 AM   #128 
                       - Exactly  glinda   Oct-21-09 10:23 AM   #129 
                          - Megwitch.  Jackpine Radical   Oct-21-09 01:33 PM   #135 
           - spelling  Sabien   Oct-21-09 04:55 AM   #124 
  - I've worked on Pine Ridge and know exactly what  liberalhistorian   Oct-20-09 01:31 PM   #30 
  - I got an FBI file for my support back in 1973  catbyte   Oct-20-09 02:32 PM   #44 
     - Bouzhou. I grew up among Anishinabe people in N. Wi. LCO, actually.  Jackpine Radical   Oct-20-09 02:59 PM   #49 
     - Aanii!  catbyte   Oct-20-09 03:16 PM   #52 
        - Not to mention a really great radio station, WOJB. It streams online. Try it.  Jackpine Radical   Oct-20-09 05:47 PM   #69 
     - Welcome to the club  Scruffy1   Oct-20-09 03:31 PM   #55 
     - *hug* Thank you for doing that.  knitter4democracy   Oct-20-09 04:31 PM   #62 
  - That is heartbreaking nt  Dreamer Tatum   Oct-20-09 01:38 PM   #32 
  - k&r for friends in Pine Ridge and Standing Rock. eom  uppityperson   Oct-20-09 01:50 PM   #36 
  - Pine Ridge is the scariest place Ive ever seen NOT more so than in a Taliban ambush.  Greyskye   Oct-20-09 01:58 PM   #40 
  - yes thanks for that, too late for me to go back and edit  Wetzelbill   Oct-20-09 08:35 PM   #91 
  - I've driven through it a couple of times in my life. It's hard to believe it's part of  Cleita   Oct-20-09 02:04 PM   #42 
  - the feds took away their only viable industry by destroying it  reggie the dog   Oct-20-09 02:43 PM   #46 
  - 'The Woman Hanging From The Thirteenth Floor Window'  me b zola   Oct-20-09 02:46 PM   #47 
  - K & R!  NanceGreggs   Oct-20-09 03:31 PM   #54 
  - Just got back from Jemez Pueblo in N. New Mexico....  Helga Scow Stern   Oct-20-09 03:53 PM   #57 
  - So unbelievably sad.  polly7   Oct-20-09 04:11 PM   #59 
  - What you did was very generous and almost heroic in my eyes...not many  TK421   Oct-20-09 09:50 PM   #105 
     - Aw, thank you  polly7   Oct-20-09 10:14 PM   #108 
        - How many miles from Regina to Saskatoon? just curious  TK421   Oct-20-09 10:25 PM   #111 
           - It's about 260 km, or 160 miles.  polly7   Oct-21-09 02:44 AM   #119 
  - Thank you so much for this. We need to be reminded of how much suffering there is in the world  Number23   Oct-20-09 04:21 PM   #60 
  - I know Hopi Mesas was bad back in the late '90s.  knitter4democracy   Oct-20-09 04:33 PM   #63 
  - and we have the gall to criticize other countries for the way they treat their indigenous peoples!!!  BrklynLiberal   Oct-20-09 04:55 PM   #64 
  - I was there many years ago, it's true.  lisa58   Oct-20-09 05:23 PM   #66 
  - Recommend. Very moving and disturbing in many ways.  bertman   Oct-20-09 05:28 PM   #67 
  - SecretaryIndian Affairs, Department of the Interior,  polly7   Oct-20-09 05:42 PM   #68 
     - Thanks for the information, polly7. That is an enlightening quote from Kevin Gover;  bertman   Oct-20-09 10:08 PM   #107 
        - You're welcome.  polly7   Oct-20-09 10:24 PM   #110 
           - What occurs to me is that there should be some other mechanism besides casinos and  bertman   Oct-20-09 11:10 PM   #112 
  - Thank you for posting  Geek_Girl   Oct-20-09 06:03 PM   #72 
  - K&R...  ms liberty   Oct-20-09 06:43 PM   #73 
  - There was only one mention of casinos. Do all states allow them? So Dakota?  peacetalksforall   Oct-20-09 06:51 PM   #74 
  - Prophecy Song - The elders - Casinos  SpiralHawk   Oct-20-09 07:24 PM   #78 
  - Pine Ridge does have a casino, but it is the norm among Indian Casinos  mikekohr   Oct-20-09 08:03 PM   #83 
  - I wonder how much of the revenue of the successful casinos  XemaSab   Oct-20-09 08:22 PM   #88 
  - I did some work for a woman in Public Relations once and  AnotherDreamWeaver   Oct-20-09 11:27 PM   #113 
  - I was in a casino that was basically a bit bigger than a "shack" once.  glinda   Oct-20-09 09:01 PM   #98 
  - tribes have to enter into bilateral agreements with  Wetzelbill   Oct-20-09 08:41 PM   #92 
  - So why do they vote for repiglieCONs there WB?  lonestarnot   Oct-20-09 07:50 PM   #80 
  - I doubt people on the reservation do  Wetzelbill   Oct-20-09 08:46 PM   #93 
     - Mostly but in the last eight years there has been in operation in movement to  glinda   Oct-20-09 09:02 PM   #100 
        - yes I've heard of that  Wetzelbill   Oct-20-09 09:29 PM   #102 
  - THE BUREAU OF WHITE AFFAIRS  mikekohr   Oct-20-09 07:51 PM   #81 
  - You should vist this area  MisterK   Oct-20-09 07:57 PM   #82 
  - I don't doubt that it's bad  Wetzelbill   Oct-20-09 09:01 PM   #99 
  - I'm sorry, but I'm from NE Ohio and Pine Ridge is nothing  liberalhistorian   Oct-21-09 10:34 AM   #130 
  - Not An Expert  RobinA   Oct-21-09 03:18 PM   #137 
  - So why are we in this situation?  Rosa Luxemburg   Oct-20-09 09:28 PM   #101 
  - Amen.  XemaSab   Oct-20-09 09:52 PM   #106 
  - k&r  Swamp Rat   Oct-20-09 10:16 PM   #109 
  - we drove through there in the seventies, on a family road trip to rushmore and beyond...  dysfunctional press   Oct-20-09 11:32 PM   #115 
  - For those who are familiar with the Lakota of SD  DFW   Oct-21-09 02:12 AM   #116 
  - Fantastic photos!  Quantess   Oct-21-09 02:20 AM   #117 
  - I cried when we went to Pine Ridge  proud2BlibKansan   Oct-21-09 08:36 AM   #127 
  - If they manufactured cars on a reservation what, if any, taxes would be exempted? (nt)  ieoeja   Oct-21-09 11:13 AM   #132 
     - I am not sure exactly  Wetzelbill   Oct-21-09 01:10 PM   #134 
 

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