| 103. in this case they needed to save the financial sector from a meltdown BEFORE they regulated it.. |
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Edited on Sun Oct-18-09 07:00 PM by BREMPRO
you can argue that more control should have been legislated over how the bailout money was given- but that was Bush/Paulson and congress, not Obama and his economic team that set the parameters. Now that health care is in the final stretch and the American and world economy by measure of most economists is stabilizing, Obama's team has started the regulation rhetoric this week with a shot across the bow of wall street for the big bonuses. This will the stage for regulations to prevent another future meltdown. There will be push back, but Obama, Geithner,Summers, and Bernanke are all on record for tighter regulations. Give it a chance to run it's course before you judge it. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... |
| -Tim Geithner is an asshole and a failure |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 11:46 AM |
#0 |
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k&r |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-18-09 11:47 AM |
#1 |
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Hey Swamp Rat - Is That Geithner? |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-18-09 12:04 PM |
#10 |
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It looks like Dick Fuld? |
Ruby the Liberal |
Oct-18-09 12:07 PM |
#12 |
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See post #17 |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-18-09 12:20 PM |
#18 |
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How About A Similar One For Geithner and Summers? |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-18-09 12:22 PM |
#20 |
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Former Chairman and CEO of Lehman Brothers Richard Fuld |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-18-09 12:19 PM |
#17 |
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facilitating goldman sachs to run the country's financial system |
corpseratemedia |
Oct-18-09 12:12 PM |
#14 |
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Swamp Rat for Presid... er... Emperor! |
Piewhacket |
Oct-18-09 09:16 PM |
#135 |
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Why does the Tri-Lateral Commission need a rep in Obama's cabinet in TLC member Geitner? |
Union Yes |
Oct-18-09 11:13 PM |
#150 |
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K&R but I fear the unreccers will come over from GD:P in due time |
FLAprogressive |
Oct-18-09 11:47 AM |
#2 |
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To quote another DUer the other day |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 11:48 AM |
#4 |
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!! |
jonnyblitz |
Oct-18-09 08:44 PM |
#128 |
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LOL, well played.... well played! |
liberation |
Oct-18-09 08:48 PM |
#131 |
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And, he was appointed by Obama and he continues to be supported by Obama |
debbierlus |
Oct-18-09 11:48 AM |
#3 |
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He didn't have much control in one important way |
Warpy |
Oct-18-09 12:05 PM |
#11 |
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So, Obama HAD to appoint Geithner because there was no one else with experience |
debbierlus |
Oct-18-09 12:11 PM |
#13 |
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The logic that people use |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 12:14 PM |
#16 |
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Will it EVER end? |
theFrankFactor |
Oct-18-09 05:58 PM |
#96 |
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That is not "logic" it is either denial or shilling... |
liberation |
Oct-18-09 08:42 PM |
#127 |
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Credible economists, yes. Credible administrators, probably not. |
Warpy |
Oct-18-09 02:49 PM |
#38 |
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lets learn a little about little Timmy Geithner...shall we... LETS........ |
flyarm |
Oct-18-09 05:07 PM |
#85 |
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Holy shit, that is fucking |
Autumn |
Oct-18-09 06:23 PM |
#105 |
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it damn well should be..i posted this many times in the spring and summer only to have the |
flyarm |
Oct-18-09 07:03 PM |
#108 |
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The amount of denial is damned scary... |
liberation |
Oct-18-09 08:46 PM |
#130 |
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11/24/08 |
Tansy_Gold |
Oct-19-09 07:14 AM |
#174 |
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Yes Tansy_gold..there are alot more of us now..but that doesn't make me feel any better |
flyarm |
Oct-19-09 08:24 AM |
#176 |
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my oh my, they do keep it in the family.... |
unkachuck |
Oct-18-09 08:50 PM |
#133 |
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Is there any doubt that there are Democrats and Labour Party in the Establishment? |
leveymg |
Oct-18-09 09:13 PM |
#134 |
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Not me, I had and have no doubt! And it is up to all of us to expose the crooks and liars! |
flyarm |
Oct-19-09 08:27 AM |
#177 |
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Thanks for the information, this is primarily why I come to DU. |
olegramps |
Oct-19-09 09:01 AM |
#182 |
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+ :) nt |
glitch |
Oct-18-09 07:16 PM |
#110 |
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I don't blame Geitner. I blame Obama. The buck stops there. |
tblue |
Oct-18-09 09:28 PM |
#136 |
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I agree with you... |
sendero |
Oct-18-09 09:35 PM |
#138 |
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+1 |
waiting for hope |
Oct-18-09 10:20 PM |
#141 |
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The Great Joseph Stiglitz Campaigned Openly for Treasury Job, and Was Snubbed |
Hidden Stillness |
Oct-18-09 01:06 PM |
#22 |
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No Obama had to appoint Timmy |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 01:48 PM |
#30 |
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An administrative job going to an academic or a seasoned administrator |
Warpy |
Oct-18-09 02:46 PM |
#36 |
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Timmy was a terrible administrator |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 03:15 PM |
#39 |
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Definitely should put an end to any "only DLCers had experience" bullspin. |
glitch |
Oct-18-09 07:21 PM |
#111 |
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Stiglitz knows exactly the steps to correct |
Enthusiast |
Oct-19-09 06:54 AM |
#172 |
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That's absurd. |
Marr |
Oct-18-09 01:17 PM |
#26 |
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He probably does agree with a lot of these people |
Warpy |
Oct-18-09 02:45 PM |
#35 |
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I like the straight line approach, too. nt |
valerief |
Oct-18-09 04:43 PM |
#75 |
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AHHH AND FAMILY TIES,,.. |
flyarm |
Oct-18-09 05:09 PM |
#87 |
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You seriously cannot mean what you just said. |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-18-09 07:32 PM |
#114 |
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That is ridiculous. |
DWilliamsamh |
Oct-18-09 07:45 PM |
#117 |
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Elizabeth Warren could handle all three positions at once -- Sec. Treasury, |
JDPriestly |
Oct-19-09 12:36 AM |
#158 |
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Nonsense. |
clear eye |
Oct-19-09 12:57 PM |
#194 |
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I Started A Thread About This Last Week & Actually Got Attacked For Bringing |
ChiciB1 |
Oct-19-09 09:49 AM |
#183 |
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He seemed like a questionable choice from the beginning. |
Blue_In_AK |
Oct-18-09 11:49 AM |
#5 |
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He's A Success |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-18-09 11:49 AM |
#6 |
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Just wait until Obama finds out about this guy. Big time FIRING. You just wait. |
Karmadillo |
Oct-18-09 11:51 AM |
#7 |
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LOL nt |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-18-09 12:01 PM |
#9 |
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oh please let me get a huge yawn here..or a Big GIANT CHUCKLE! |
flyarm |
Oct-18-09 05:11 PM |
# |
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If only the king knew, said the serfs. |
Jim Sagle |
Oct-18-09 08:20 PM |
#120 |
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... |
varelse |
Oct-18-09 08:36 PM |
#125 |
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Asshole? Yes ... Failure? No. He's done exactly what he and his buddies wanted. |
EndElectoral |
Oct-18-09 11:52 AM |
#8 |
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BET ON THAT!!!!!!! YOU WOULD WIN THE LOTTERY! N/T |
flyarm |
Oct-18-09 05:13 PM |
#90 |
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Truth |
graywarrior |
Oct-18-09 12:13 PM |
#15 |
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Since he's marinating in that culture, I say it's time to grill him. |
RainDog |
Oct-18-09 12:21 PM |
#19 |
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If you've ever met anyone who runs the democratic party |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 12:28 PM |
#21 |
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Rahm Emanuel has his fingerprints all over this shit... |
scentopine |
Oct-19-09 12:00 AM |
#153 |
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I was saying this a while ago... |
Ardent15 |
Oct-18-09 01:07 PM |
#23 |
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He's not a failure. He's doing what he was hired to do. |
Marr |
Oct-18-09 01:09 PM |
#24 |
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Bingo! n/t |
QC |
Oct-18-09 01:13 PM |
#25 |
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K&R. |
OnceUponTimeOnTheNet |
Oct-18-09 01:19 PM |
#27 |
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Nixon went to China. n/t |
theophilus |
Oct-18-09 01:32 PM |
#28 |
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How has that worked out for us? |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 01:36 PM |
#29 |
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Actually, Nixon sent Ambassador Poppy Bush to China |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-18-09 03:25 PM |
#42 |
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wow, Learned something new. Didn't know there was a Prescott Jr. |
lostnfound |
Oct-19-09 06:26 AM |
#171 |
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Summers is just as bad. They both need to go - soon nt |
Thickasabrick |
Oct-18-09 01:59 PM |
#31 |
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Summers is worse |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 02:02 PM |
#32 |
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And we have as much chance |
Enthusiast |
Oct-19-09 07:14 AM |
#173 |
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Marinating... |
Subdivisions |
Oct-18-09 02:07 PM |
#33 |
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No surprises when you pull the Open Secrets information |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 02:09 PM |
#34 |
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A very enthusiastic K&R! He is indeed an asshole and a failure. |
Kitty Herder |
Oct-18-09 02:46 PM |
#37 |
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Does this mean the Obama administration is a failure |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 03:21 PM |
#40 |
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The entire Wall Street/"Federal" Reserve fellating economic team definitely is. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-18-09 03:28 PM |
#43 |
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That's not what I asked. |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 03:47 PM |
#44 |
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I'll answer |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 03:53 PM |
#45 |
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"If"? So hypothetically it might be failure? You declared Geithner a failure without an "if." nt |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:01 PM |
#49 |
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Geithner |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 04:03 PM |
#50 |
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You're not answering the question. n/t |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:06 PM |
#51 |
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For a five buck an hour DLC hogwash dispenser, you display an admirable work ethic. |
Jim Sagle |
Oct-18-09 08:24 PM |
#121 |
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Too early to answer that question. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-18-09 03:56 PM |
#46 |
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I wish I could 'rec' a post. Nail on the head. n/t |
Fire1 |
Oct-18-09 07:06 PM |
#109 |
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On this issue, the Obama administration is a complete failure |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 03:58 PM |
#47 |
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Nonsense |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:08 PM |
#53 |
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Neither of those have anything to do with the OP |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 04:11 PM |
#54 |
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So he's not a failure based on evidence, just on your opinion of him? n/t |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:13 PM |
#56 |
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That isn't fucking evidence |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 04:14 PM |
#57 |
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"Your back on ignore." Figures you can't deal with reality n/t |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:15 PM |
#58 |
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ProSense, bud...... |
StreetKnowledge |
Oct-18-09 04:28 PM |
#66 |
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Until Obama dismisses Geithner, he is carrying out administration policy. |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:35 PM |
#70 |
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No, it's rather that Summers and Geithner largely regulate the flow of information |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 04:49 PM |
#78 |
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Oh please. This isn't B*sh we're talking about |
jgraz |
Oct-18-09 10:46 PM |
#147 |
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Are you for real ? |
audas |
Oct-19-09 12:05 AM |
#155 |
| -
Hilarious |
ampad |
Oct-18-09 04:38 PM |
#72 |
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I have no problem with debate |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 04:41 PM |
#73 |
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! |
glitch |
Oct-18-09 07:29 PM |
#113 |
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And thinks this is okay ... |
waiting for hope |
Oct-18-09 10:26 PM |
#142 |
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So then, please tell me what measures were taken... |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 04:15 PM |
#59 |
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Financial regulatory reform is |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:21 PM |
#61 |
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 04:25 PM |
#62 |
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So the steps toward reform are not important to you? What do you propose: |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:27 PM |
#63 |
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No, what I propose is a vigorous campaign... |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 04:33 PM |
#68 |
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"similar to the strong-arming that took place to get Dems" |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:37 PM |
#71 |
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Nice strawman, but it misses the point |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 04:42 PM |
#74 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-18-09 04:44 PM |
#76 |
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"The Sarah Palin of DU." You're really funny. |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:53 PM |
#81 |
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nice |
HughMoran |
Oct-18-09 11:02 PM |
#149 |
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No, you miss the point. You seem to think that with everything on the agenda |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:55 PM |
#82 |
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No, I'm a historian and I understand that in politics... |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 05:01 PM |
#83 |
| -
"the notion that Obama is trying to "end war" is utterly laughable," |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 05:08 PM |
#86 |
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Based upon the links you posted.... |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 05:30 PM |
#93 |
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More on "ending war" being laughable |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 06:15 PM |
#100 |
| -
More on not believing everything you read in |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 06:19 PM |
#102 |
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Then, there's also this -- Obama and Summers at the G20 |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 05:05 PM |
#84 |
| -
What transparency?Like the deal with Pharma? Sheesh. |
saracat |
Oct-19-09 11:03 AM |
#189 |
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I'm With You! Been there for about six months now. |
theFrankFactor |
Oct-18-09 05:54 PM |
#95 |
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Non steps - just more rhetoric - |
audas |
Oct-19-09 12:08 AM |
#156 |
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Putting the Fed in charge of regulating derivatives? Come on now. |
JDPriestly |
Oct-19-09 12:51 AM |
#164 |
| -
If I could |
spiritual_gunfighter |
Oct-18-09 04:28 PM |
#64 |
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Yeah, I'm so sick of ideology over ideas... |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 04:35 PM |
#69 |
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in this case they needed to save the financial sector from a meltdown BEFORE they regulated it.. |
BREMPRO |
Oct-18-09 06:22 PM |
#103 |
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President Obama was the major force behind TARP in congress |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 06:25 PM |
#106 |
| -
it's not that simple. |
BREMPRO |
Oct-18-09 07:50 PM |
#118 |
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I think they are a brilliant success. |
asdjrocky |
Oct-18-09 04:28 PM |
#65 |
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results count |
placton |
Oct-18-09 05:10 PM |
#88 |
| -
rofl! nt |
glitch |
Oct-18-09 07:33 PM |
#116 |
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Obama is failing his supporters. Geitner is taking care of his. nt |
tblue |
Oct-18-09 09:35 PM |
#137 |
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I'll answer your question, Pro. I feel like the wife in Heartbreak Kid. I feel |
change_notfinetuning |
Oct-19-09 01:23 AM |
#166 |
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k&r! nt |
wildbilln864 |
Oct-18-09 03:23 PM |
#41 |
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Who hired him? nt |
earth mom |
Oct-18-09 04:00 PM |
#48 |
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Sadly, too true. n/t |
greytdemocrat |
Oct-18-09 05:11 PM |
#89 |
| -
So Frank Rich is the final arbiter for the treasury secretary |
TheWebHead |
Oct-18-09 04:06 PM |
#52 |
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I believe this is what Mr. Rich is talking more about |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 04:12 PM |
#55 |
| -
So, you're challenging the assertion that Geithner... |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 04:19 PM |
#60 |
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ummm, no. |
girl gone mad |
Oct-18-09 08:31 PM |
#124 |
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after seeing what has happened and, after watching Capitalism: A Love |
davidwparker |
Oct-18-09 04:29 PM |
#67 |
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Heck of a job, Timmy! |
bvar22 |
Oct-18-09 04:44 PM |
#77 |
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+1 |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 04:50 PM |
#79 |
| -
He must go! |
Toucano |
Oct-18-09 04:52 PM |
#80 |
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They do look like a happy bunch, don't they? |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-18-09 05:26 PM |
#92 |
| -
Yeah. I'd say that. n/t |
Fire1 |
Oct-18-09 05:14 PM |
#91 |
| -
Barack Obama's Cabinet is a Fucking Shithouse - Welcome to Reality. |
theFrankFactor |
Oct-18-09 05:52 PM |
#94 |
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The only one worse than Geithner is Arne Duncan |
tonysam |
Oct-18-09 11:47 PM |
#152 |
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This ain't no kitchen cabinet. It's a bathroom cabinet. If only we could flush |
change_notfinetuning |
Oct-19-09 01:29 AM |
#167 |
| -
they are crooks from the white house down,,hello |
natrat |
Oct-18-09 06:00 PM |
#97 |
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K&R |
Vidar |
Oct-18-09 06:04 PM |
#98 |
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Geithner and Summers take care of their own to the detriment of the rest |
neverforget |
Oct-18-09 06:09 PM |
#99 |
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And, Citigroup . . . |
defendandprotect |
Oct-18-09 06:17 PM |
#101 |
| -
Misplaced -- |
defendandprotect |
Oct-18-09 06:22 PM |
#104 |
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This is the same elitist game played over and again . . . |
defendandprotect |
Oct-18-09 06:31 PM |
#107 |
| -
so do these nazis have the same final solution in mind, or a new one ? |
natrat |
Oct-18-09 08:45 PM |
#129 |
| -
Can't speak to what they "actually" have in mind . . . however, |
defendandprotect |
Oct-19-09 12:49 AM |
#163 |
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Proud to be the 100th Rec. Kick and completely agree. (N/T) |
DWilliamsamh |
Oct-18-09 07:24 PM |
#112 |
| -
Are you kidding . . . ?? He's a great success for the financial crowd/Wall Street -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-18-09 07:33 PM |
#115 |
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I disagree. I am so tired of the "in crowd" pissing on the Treasury Secretary. |
beachmom |
Oct-18-09 07:52 PM |
#119 |
| -
Then give us concrete evidence as to why we should stop. |
Jim Sagle |
Oct-18-09 08:29 PM |
#123 |
| -
please, these people are so stupid they believe anything they are told |
natrat |
Oct-18-09 08:50 PM |
#132 |
| -
Yeah, that's concrete, all right... |
Jim Sagle |
Oct-19-09 11:18 AM |
#192 |
| -
I'm tired of the Treasury Secretary pissing on us |
jgraz |
Oct-18-09 10:44 PM |
#145 |
| -
Why In The Hell Did Our President Pick him? |
Dinger |
Oct-18-09 08:28 PM |
#122 |
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to do exactly what he is doing |
Skittles |
Oct-18-09 08:40 PM |
#126 |
| -
Yep |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Oct-18-09 09:37 PM |
#139 |
| -
K&R |
Solly Mack |
Oct-18-09 09:46 PM |
#140 |
| -
fox guarding the hen house. n/t |
arthritisR_US |
Oct-18-09 10:26 PM |
#143 |
| -
No, he's just holding the door open for the foxes |
jgraz |
Oct-18-09 10:45 PM |
#146 |
| -
K&R - |
waiting for hope |
Oct-18-09 10:27 PM |
#144 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-18-09 10:59 PM |
#148 |
| -
Wall Street's Stink and Piss |
scentopine |
Oct-18-09 11:45 PM |
#151 |
| -
Oh totally. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-19-09 12:03 AM |
#154 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-19-09 12:30 AM |
#157 |
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You're just jealous. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-19-09 12:39 AM |
#161 |
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thanks for letting us know the worse is over because |
scentopine |
Oct-19-09 12:38 AM |
#160 |
| -
OK, you do that. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-19-09 12:40 AM |
#162 |
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Don't confuse them with the facts. It is much easier to be stupid. |
saracat |
Oct-19-09 01:37 AM |
#168 |
| -
Okay, what steps would you take? |
Enthusiast |
Oct-19-09 07:50 AM |
#175 |
| -
start here..India to ask US for more H-1B visas |
flyarm |
Oct-19-09 08:39 AM |
#179 |
| -
You are an advocate of fewer H-1B Visas? |
Enthusiast |
Oct-19-09 10:50 AM |
#187 |
| -
absolutely... |
flyarm |
Oct-19-09 06:44 PM |
#195 |
| -
OK - here is what I'd do |
scentopine |
Oct-19-09 08:55 AM |
#180 |
| -
Okay, I could go for this. |
Enthusiast |
Oct-19-09 10:55 AM |
#188 |
| -
Fail |
AllentownJake |
Oct-19-09 05:20 AM |
#169 |
| -
K&R. Yup. nt |
Truth2Tell |
Oct-19-09 12:38 AM |
#159 |
| -
So the Wizard of Change appointed the Wizard of Business As Usual! And |
change_notfinetuning |
Oct-19-09 01:04 AM |
#165 |
| -
He did a great job for the CEOs |
Hubert Flottz |
Oct-19-09 05:32 AM |
#170 |
| -
he is counting on a cushy job after he leaves the Treasury so he has to keep the "trinity" happy |
dugaresa |
Oct-19-09 08:32 AM |
#178 |
| -
Yes, that is the correct answer. |
closeupready |
Oct-19-09 10:32 AM |
#186 |
| -
+1 |
Blue_Tires |
Oct-20-09 03:55 PM |
#198 |
| -
It's much like healthcare. |
mjvpi |
Oct-19-09 08:56 AM |
#181 |
| -
In view of all the testimony here, I have to conclude that Obama's choices are puzzling at best. |
olegramps |
Oct-19-09 09:55 AM |
#184 |
| -
Yup |
AllyCat |
Oct-19-09 10:07 AM |
#185 |
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His primary task was to stabilize the financial sector. He did. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Oct-19-09 11:05 AM |
#190 |
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No he didn't |
AllentownJake |
Oct-19-09 11:08 AM |
#191 |
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And don't forget the $15T - $17T, that's trillions, we are on the hook for when they lose the next |
Greyhound |
Oct-19-09 11:26 AM |
#193 |
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WTF? They rewrote the rules about reporting losses... |
scentopine |
Oct-19-09 07:23 PM |
#196 |
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Also- when did it become treasury's job to manage wall street? |
scentopine |
Oct-19-09 07:39 PM |
#197 |
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