| 69. Yeah, I'm so sick of ideology over ideas... |
|
... and partisanship over substance. I guess that's why I rarely venture into GDF anymore, preferring to check in at E&E and Economy forums instead.
|
| -Tim Geithner is an asshole and a failure |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 11:46 AM |
#0 |
-
k&r |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-18-09 11:47 AM |
#1 |
 -
Hey Swamp Rat - Is That Geithner? |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-18-09 12:04 PM |
#10 |
  -
It looks like Dick Fuld? |
Ruby the Liberal |
Oct-18-09 12:07 PM |
#12 |
   -
See post #17 |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-18-09 12:20 PM |
#18 |
  -
How About A Similar One For Geithner and Summers? |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-18-09 12:22 PM |
#20 |
  -
Former Chairman and CEO of Lehman Brothers Richard Fuld |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-18-09 12:19 PM |
#17 |
 -
facilitating goldman sachs to run the country's financial system |
corpseratemedia |
Oct-18-09 12:12 PM |
#14 |
 -
Swamp Rat for Presid... er... Emperor! |
Piewhacket |
Oct-18-09 09:16 PM |
#135 |
 -
Why does the Tri-Lateral Commission need a rep in Obama's cabinet in TLC member Geitner? |
Union Yes |
Oct-18-09 11:13 PM |
#150 |
-
K&R but I fear the unreccers will come over from GD:P in due time |
FLAprogressive |
Oct-18-09 11:47 AM |
#2 |
 -
To quote another DUer the other day |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 11:48 AM |
#4 |
-
!! |
jonnyblitz |
Oct-18-09 08:44 PM |
#128 |
-
LOL, well played.... well played! |
liberation |
Oct-18-09 08:48 PM |
#131 |
-
And, he was appointed by Obama and he continues to be supported by Obama |
debbierlus |
Oct-18-09 11:48 AM |
#3 |
 -
He didn't have much control in one important way |
Warpy |
Oct-18-09 12:05 PM |
#11 |
  -
So, Obama HAD to appoint Geithner because there was no one else with experience |
debbierlus |
Oct-18-09 12:11 PM |
#13 |
   -
The logic that people use |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 12:14 PM |
#16 |
    -
Will it EVER end? |
theFrankFactor |
Oct-18-09 05:58 PM |
#96 |
    -
That is not "logic" it is either denial or shilling... |
liberation |
Oct-18-09 08:42 PM |
#127 |
   -
Credible economists, yes. Credible administrators, probably not. |
Warpy |
Oct-18-09 02:49 PM |
#38 |
    -
lets learn a little about little Timmy Geithner...shall we... LETS........ |
flyarm |
Oct-18-09 05:07 PM |
#85 |
   -
Holy shit, that is fucking |
Autumn |
Oct-18-09 06:23 PM |
#105 |
    -
it damn well should be..i posted this many times in the spring and summer only to have the |
flyarm |
Oct-18-09 07:03 PM |
#108 |
   -
The amount of denial is damned scary... |
liberation |
Oct-18-09 08:46 PM |
#130 |
   -
11/24/08 |
Tansy_Gold |
Oct-19-09 07:14 AM |
#174 |
   -
Yes Tansy_gold..there are alot more of us now..but that doesn't make me feel any better |
flyarm |
Oct-19-09 08:24 AM |
#176 |
   -
my oh my, they do keep it in the family.... |
unkachuck |
Oct-18-09 08:50 PM |
#133 |
   -
Is there any doubt that there are Democrats and Labour Party in the Establishment? |
leveymg |
Oct-18-09 09:13 PM |
#134 |
    -
Not me, I had and have no doubt! And it is up to all of us to expose the crooks and liars! |
flyarm |
Oct-19-09 08:27 AM |
#177 |
   -
Thanks for the information, this is primarily why I come to DU. |
olegramps |
Oct-19-09 09:01 AM |
#182 |
   -
+ :) nt |
glitch |
Oct-18-09 07:16 PM |
#110 |
   -
I don't blame Geitner. I blame Obama. The buck stops there. |
tblue |
Oct-18-09 09:28 PM |
#136 |
   -
I agree with you... |
sendero |
Oct-18-09 09:35 PM |
#138 |
   -
+1 |
waiting for hope |
Oct-18-09 10:20 PM |
#141 |
  -
The Great Joseph Stiglitz Campaigned Openly for Treasury Job, and Was Snubbed |
Hidden Stillness |
Oct-18-09 01:06 PM |
#22 |
   -
No Obama had to appoint Timmy |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 01:48 PM |
#30 |
   -
An administrative job going to an academic or a seasoned administrator |
Warpy |
Oct-18-09 02:46 PM |
#36 |
    -
Timmy was a terrible administrator |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 03:15 PM |
#39 |
   -
Definitely should put an end to any "only DLCers had experience" bullspin. |
glitch |
Oct-18-09 07:21 PM |
#111 |
   -
Stiglitz knows exactly the steps to correct |
Enthusiast |
Oct-19-09 06:54 AM |
#172 |
  -
That's absurd. |
Marr |
Oct-18-09 01:17 PM |
#26 |
   -
He probably does agree with a lot of these people |
Warpy |
Oct-18-09 02:45 PM |
#35 |
   -
I like the straight line approach, too. nt |
valerief |
Oct-18-09 04:43 PM |
#75 |
   -
AHHH AND FAMILY TIES,,.. |
flyarm |
Oct-18-09 05:09 PM |
#87 |
  -
You seriously cannot mean what you just said. |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-18-09 07:32 PM |
#114 |
  -
That is ridiculous. |
DWilliamsamh |
Oct-18-09 07:45 PM |
#117 |
  -
Elizabeth Warren could handle all three positions at once -- Sec. Treasury, |
JDPriestly |
Oct-19-09 12:36 AM |
#158 |
  -
Nonsense. |
clear eye |
Oct-19-09 12:57 PM |
#194 |
 -
I Started A Thread About This Last Week & Actually Got Attacked For Bringing |
ChiciB1 |
Oct-19-09 09:49 AM |
#183 |
-
He seemed like a questionable choice from the beginning. |
Blue_In_AK |
Oct-18-09 11:49 AM |
#5 |
-
He's A Success |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-18-09 11:49 AM |
#6 |
-
Just wait until Obama finds out about this guy. Big time FIRING. You just wait. |
Karmadillo |
Oct-18-09 11:51 AM |
#7 |
 -
LOL nt |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-18-09 12:01 PM |
#9 |
 -
oh please let me get a huge yawn here..or a Big GIANT CHUCKLE! |
flyarm |
Oct-18-09 05:11 PM |
# |
 -
If only the king knew, said the serfs. |
Jim Sagle |
Oct-18-09 08:20 PM |
#120 |
 -
... |
varelse |
Oct-18-09 08:36 PM |
#125 |
-
Asshole? Yes ... Failure? No. He's done exactly what he and his buddies wanted. |
EndElectoral |
Oct-18-09 11:52 AM |
#8 |
 -
BET ON THAT!!!!!!! YOU WOULD WIN THE LOTTERY! N/T |
flyarm |
Oct-18-09 05:13 PM |
#90 |
-
Truth |
graywarrior |
Oct-18-09 12:13 PM |
#15 |
-
Since he's marinating in that culture, I say it's time to grill him. |
RainDog |
Oct-18-09 12:21 PM |
#19 |
 -
If you've ever met anyone who runs the democratic party |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 12:28 PM |
#21 |
-
Rahm Emanuel has his fingerprints all over this shit... |
scentopine |
Oct-19-09 12:00 AM |
#153 |
-
I was saying this a while ago... |
Ardent15 |
Oct-18-09 01:07 PM |
#23 |
-
He's not a failure. He's doing what he was hired to do. |
Marr |
Oct-18-09 01:09 PM |
#24 |
 -
Bingo! n/t |
QC |
Oct-18-09 01:13 PM |
#25 |
-
K&R. |
OnceUponTimeOnTheNet |
Oct-18-09 01:19 PM |
#27 |
-
Nixon went to China. n/t |
theophilus |
Oct-18-09 01:32 PM |
#28 |
 -
How has that worked out for us? |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 01:36 PM |
#29 |
 -
Actually, Nixon sent Ambassador Poppy Bush to China |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-18-09 03:25 PM |
#42 |
-
wow, Learned something new. Didn't know there was a Prescott Jr. |
lostnfound |
Oct-19-09 06:26 AM |
#171 |
-
Summers is just as bad. They both need to go - soon nt |
Thickasabrick |
Oct-18-09 01:59 PM |
#31 |
 -
Summers is worse |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 02:02 PM |
#32 |
-
And we have as much chance |
Enthusiast |
Oct-19-09 07:14 AM |
#173 |
-
Marinating... |
Subdivisions |
Oct-18-09 02:07 PM |
#33 |
 -
No surprises when you pull the Open Secrets information |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 02:09 PM |
#34 |
-
A very enthusiastic K&R! He is indeed an asshole and a failure. |
Kitty Herder |
Oct-18-09 02:46 PM |
#37 |
-
Does this mean the Obama administration is a failure |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 03:21 PM |
#40 |
 -
The entire Wall Street/"Federal" Reserve fellating economic team definitely is. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-18-09 03:28 PM |
#43 |
  -
That's not what I asked. |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 03:47 PM |
#44 |
 -
I'll answer |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 03:53 PM |
#45 |
  -
"If"? So hypothetically it might be failure? You declared Geithner a failure without an "if." nt |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:01 PM |
#49 |
 -
Geithner |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 04:03 PM |
#50 |
 -
You're not answering the question. n/t |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:06 PM |
#51 |
 -
For a five buck an hour DLC hogwash dispenser, you display an admirable work ethic. |
Jim Sagle |
Oct-18-09 08:24 PM |
#121 |
 -
Too early to answer that question. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-18-09 03:56 PM |
#46 |
 -
I wish I could 'rec' a post. Nail on the head. n/t |
Fire1 |
Oct-18-09 07:06 PM |
#109 |
 -
On this issue, the Obama administration is a complete failure |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 03:58 PM |
#47 |
  -
Nonsense |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:08 PM |
#53 |
 -
Neither of those have anything to do with the OP |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 04:11 PM |
#54 |
  -
So he's not a failure based on evidence, just on your opinion of him? n/t |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:13 PM |
#56 |
 -
That isn't fucking evidence |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 04:14 PM |
#57 |
 -
"Your back on ignore." Figures you can't deal with reality n/t |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:15 PM |
#58 |
  -
ProSense, bud...... |
StreetKnowledge |
Oct-18-09 04:28 PM |
#66 |
   -
Until Obama dismisses Geithner, he is carrying out administration policy. |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:35 PM |
#70 |
  -
No, it's rather that Summers and Geithner largely regulate the flow of information |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 04:49 PM |
#78 |
  -
Oh please. This isn't B*sh we're talking about |
jgraz |
Oct-18-09 10:46 PM |
#147 |
  -
Are you for real ? |
audas |
Oct-19-09 12:05 AM |
#155 |
 -
Hilarious |
ampad |
Oct-18-09 04:38 PM |
#72 |
 -
I have no problem with debate |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 04:41 PM |
#73 |
 -
! |
glitch |
Oct-18-09 07:29 PM |
#113 |
 -
And thinks this is okay ... |
waiting for hope |
Oct-18-09 10:26 PM |
#142 |
 -
So then, please tell me what measures were taken... |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 04:15 PM |
#59 |
 -
Financial regulatory reform is |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:21 PM |
#61 |
  -
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 04:25 PM |
#62 |
   -
So the steps toward reform are not important to you? What do you propose: |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:27 PM |
#63 |
  -
No, what I propose is a vigorous campaign... |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 04:33 PM |
#68 |
   -
"similar to the strong-arming that took place to get Dems" |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:37 PM |
#71 |
    -
Nice strawman, but it misses the point |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 04:42 PM |
#74 |
     -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-18-09 04:44 PM |
#76 |
      -
"The Sarah Palin of DU." You're really funny. |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:53 PM |
#81 |
      -
nice |
HughMoran |
Oct-18-09 11:02 PM |
#149 |
     -
No, you miss the point. You seem to think that with everything on the agenda |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 04:55 PM |
#82 |
    -
No, I'm a historian and I understand that in politics... |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 05:01 PM |
#83 |
     -
"the notion that Obama is trying to "end war" is utterly laughable," |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 05:08 PM |
#86 |
    -
Based upon the links you posted.... |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 05:30 PM |
#93 |
    -
More on "ending war" being laughable |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 06:15 PM |
#100 |
    -
More on not believing everything you read in |
ProSense |
Oct-18-09 06:19 PM |
#102 |
    -
Then, there's also this -- Obama and Summers at the G20 |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 05:05 PM |
#84 |
    -
What transparency?Like the deal with Pharma? Sheesh. |
saracat |
Oct-19-09 11:03 AM |
#189 |
   -
I'm With You! Been there for about six months now. |
theFrankFactor |
Oct-18-09 05:54 PM |
#95 |
  -
Non steps - just more rhetoric - |
audas |
Oct-19-09 12:08 AM |
#156 |
  -
Putting the Fed in charge of regulating derivatives? Come on now. |
JDPriestly |
Oct-19-09 12:51 AM |
#164 |
 -
If I could |
spiritual_gunfighter |
Oct-18-09 04:28 PM |
#64 |
  -
Yeah, I'm so sick of ideology over ideas... |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 04:35 PM |
#69 |
 -
in this case they needed to save the financial sector from a meltdown BEFORE they regulated it.. |
BREMPRO |
Oct-18-09 06:22 PM |
#103 |
 -
President Obama was the major force behind TARP in congress |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 06:25 PM |
#106 |
 -
it's not that simple. |
BREMPRO |
Oct-18-09 07:50 PM |
#118 |
 -
I think they are a brilliant success. |
asdjrocky |
Oct-18-09 04:28 PM |
#65 |
 -
results count |
placton |
Oct-18-09 05:10 PM |
#88 |
  -
rofl! nt |
glitch |
Oct-18-09 07:33 PM |
#116 |
 -
Obama is failing his supporters. Geitner is taking care of his. nt |
tblue |
Oct-18-09 09:35 PM |
#137 |
 -
I'll answer your question, Pro. I feel like the wife in Heartbreak Kid. I feel |
change_notfinetuning |
Oct-19-09 01:23 AM |
#166 |
-
k&r! nt |
wildbilln864 |
Oct-18-09 03:23 PM |
#41 |
-
Who hired him? nt |
earth mom |
Oct-18-09 04:00 PM |
#48 |
 -
Sadly, too true. n/t |
greytdemocrat |
Oct-18-09 05:11 PM |
#89 |
-
So Frank Rich is the final arbiter for the treasury secretary |
TheWebHead |
Oct-18-09 04:06 PM |
#52 |
 -
I believe this is what Mr. Rich is talking more about |
AllentownJake |
Oct-18-09 04:12 PM |
#55 |
 -
So, you're challenging the assertion that Geithner... |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 04:19 PM |
#60 |
 -
ummm, no. |
girl gone mad |
Oct-18-09 08:31 PM |
#124 |
-
after seeing what has happened and, after watching Capitalism: A Love |
davidwparker |
Oct-18-09 04:29 PM |
#67 |
-
Heck of a job, Timmy! |
bvar22 |
Oct-18-09 04:44 PM |
#77 |
 -
+1 |
IrateCitizen |
Oct-18-09 04:50 PM |
#79 |
-
He must go! |
Toucano |
Oct-18-09 04:52 PM |
#80 |
 -
They do look like a happy bunch, don't they? |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-18-09 05:26 PM |
#92 |
-
Yeah. I'd say that. n/t |
Fire1 |
Oct-18-09 05:14 PM |
#91 |
-
Barack Obama's Cabinet is a Fucking Shithouse - Welcome to Reality. |
theFrankFactor |
Oct-18-09 05:52 PM |
#94 |
 -
The only one worse than Geithner is Arne Duncan |
tonysam |
Oct-18-09 11:47 PM |
#152 |
 -
This ain't no kitchen cabinet. It's a bathroom cabinet. If only we could flush |
change_notfinetuning |
Oct-19-09 01:29 AM |
#167 |
-
they are crooks from the white house down,,hello |
natrat |
Oct-18-09 06:00 PM |
#97 |
-
K&R |
Vidar |
Oct-18-09 06:04 PM |
#98 |
-
Geithner and Summers take care of their own to the detriment of the rest |
neverforget |
Oct-18-09 06:09 PM |
#99 |
-
And, Citigroup . . . |
defendandprotect |
Oct-18-09 06:17 PM |
#101 |
 -
Misplaced -- |
defendandprotect |
Oct-18-09 06:22 PM |
#104 |
-
This is the same elitist game played over and again . . . |
defendandprotect |
Oct-18-09 06:31 PM |
#107 |
 -
so do these nazis have the same final solution in mind, or a new one ? |
natrat |
Oct-18-09 08:45 PM |
#129 |
-
Can't speak to what they "actually" have in mind . . . however, |
defendandprotect |
Oct-19-09 12:49 AM |
#163 |
-
Proud to be the 100th Rec. Kick and completely agree. (N/T) |
DWilliamsamh |
Oct-18-09 07:24 PM |
#112 |
-
Are you kidding . . . ?? He's a great success for the financial crowd/Wall Street -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-18-09 07:33 PM |
#115 |
-
I disagree. I am so tired of the "in crowd" pissing on the Treasury Secretary. |
beachmom |
Oct-18-09 07:52 PM |
#119 |
 -
Then give us concrete evidence as to why we should stop. |
Jim Sagle |
Oct-18-09 08:29 PM |
#123 |
  -
please, these people are so stupid they believe anything they are told |
natrat |
Oct-18-09 08:50 PM |
#132 |
 -
Yeah, that's concrete, all right... |
Jim Sagle |
Oct-19-09 11:18 AM |
#192 |
 -
I'm tired of the Treasury Secretary pissing on us |
jgraz |
Oct-18-09 10:44 PM |
#145 |
-
Why In The Hell Did Our President Pick him? |
Dinger |
Oct-18-09 08:28 PM |
#122 |
 -
to do exactly what he is doing |
Skittles |
Oct-18-09 08:40 PM |
#126 |
-
Yep |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Oct-18-09 09:37 PM |
#139 |
-
K&R |
Solly Mack |
Oct-18-09 09:46 PM |
#140 |
-
fox guarding the hen house. n/t |
arthritisR_US |
Oct-18-09 10:26 PM |
#143 |
 -
No, he's just holding the door open for the foxes |
jgraz |
Oct-18-09 10:45 PM |
#146 |
-
K&R - |
waiting for hope |
Oct-18-09 10:27 PM |
#144 |
-
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-18-09 10:59 PM |
#148 |
-
Wall Street's Stink and Piss |
scentopine |
Oct-18-09 11:45 PM |
#151 |
-
Oh totally. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-19-09 12:03 AM |
#154 |
 -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-19-09 12:30 AM |
#157 |
  -
You're just jealous. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-19-09 12:39 AM |
#161 |
 -
thanks for letting us know the worse is over because |
scentopine |
Oct-19-09 12:38 AM |
#160 |
  -
OK, you do that. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-19-09 12:40 AM |
#162 |
  -
Don't confuse them with the facts. It is much easier to be stupid. |
saracat |
Oct-19-09 01:37 AM |
#168 |
  -
Okay, what steps would you take? |
Enthusiast |
Oct-19-09 07:50 AM |
#175 |
 -
start here..India to ask US for more H-1B visas |
flyarm |
Oct-19-09 08:39 AM |
#179 |
  -
You are an advocate of fewer H-1B Visas? |
Enthusiast |
Oct-19-09 10:50 AM |
#187 |
 -
absolutely... |
flyarm |
Oct-19-09 06:44 PM |
#195 |
 -
OK - here is what I'd do |
scentopine |
Oct-19-09 08:55 AM |
#180 |
 -
Okay, I could go for this. |
Enthusiast |
Oct-19-09 10:55 AM |
#188 |
 -
Fail |
AllentownJake |
Oct-19-09 05:20 AM |
#169 |
-
K&R. Yup. nt |
Truth2Tell |
Oct-19-09 12:38 AM |
#159 |
-
So the Wizard of Change appointed the Wizard of Business As Usual! And |
change_notfinetuning |
Oct-19-09 01:04 AM |
#165 |
-
He did a great job for the CEOs |
Hubert Flottz |
Oct-19-09 05:32 AM |
#170 |
-
he is counting on a cushy job after he leaves the Treasury so he has to keep the "trinity" happy |
dugaresa |
Oct-19-09 08:32 AM |
#178 |
 -
Yes, that is the correct answer. |
closeupready |
Oct-19-09 10:32 AM |
#186 |
 -
+1 |
Blue_Tires |
Oct-20-09 03:55 PM |
#198 |
-
It's much like healthcare. |
mjvpi |
Oct-19-09 08:56 AM |
#181 |
-
In view of all the testimony here, I have to conclude that Obama's choices are puzzling at best. |
olegramps |
Oct-19-09 09:55 AM |
#184 |
-
Yup |
AllyCat |
Oct-19-09 10:07 AM |
#185 |
-
His primary task was to stabilize the financial sector. He did. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Oct-19-09 11:05 AM |
#190 |
-
No he didn't |
AllentownJake |
Oct-19-09 11:08 AM |
#191 |
 -
And don't forget the $15T - $17T, that's trillions, we are on the hook for when they lose the next |
Greyhound |
Oct-19-09 11:26 AM |
#193 |
-
WTF? They rewrote the rules about reporting losses... |
scentopine |
Oct-19-09 07:23 PM |
#196 |
-
Also- when did it become treasury's job to manage wall street? |
scentopine |
Oct-19-09 07:39 PM |
#197 |