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Reply #16: These are often the same people pissed that the Dow hit 10,000 [View All]

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16. These are often the same people pissed that the Dow hit 10,000
I understand, and sympathize with, the populist impulse against Wall Street, but I suspect that cheering for the market to implode isn't really about well-founded hostility towards "The Man", but rather, part of an overall drive that pathologically wants everything to fail, collapse, and descend into utter chaos - human toll be damned. These people want to be right no matter the cost, and regardless of the facts. The obverse side of the same coin that the teabaggers represent.

For better or ill, many middle and working class Americans have their already-depleted retirement funds tied into the market through simple savings accounts, CD's, 401k's, IRA's, and mutual funds. Sure, I am all for the Wall Street fat cats getting their due, but I just can't bring myself to root for people's life savings taking a hit. Yes, I know that the fat cats are at fault for this mess, but the "system" isn't being dismantled and rebuilt from scratch anytime in this young century. We can go after them, and at the same time, help rebuild at least part of what was lost for many well-meaning, hard-working people. Yes, that means pushing for progressive taxation and other measures. But if any part of a rebuilding effort is tied into the Dow at some level and in some way, then so be it. I don't have to necessarily root for it to hit 10,000, but I surely don't feel comfortable waving my pom-pom's for a Second Great Depression either. We're close enough as it is.

So yes, the gas price issue is a part of this pathology on DU. Middle and working class people sometimes have long commutes, and can't afford hybrids, etc. even as many drive gas-sensible cars and not SUV's. So this crowd claims to be a champion of the middle and working classes, but are willing to "teach them a lesson" and have them "pay the price". Burn the village in order to save it, et al.

Being right, and being better than others less enlightened than they, is an honored DU pastime for a select few.
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  Is it just me, or are there some DU'ers cheering for higher gas prices? Fading Captain  Oct-17-09 03:35 PM   #0 
   There's always one "I traded in my car for a bicycle years ago"  annabanana   Oct-17-09 03:41 PM   #1 
   I can't stand those people. nt  Libertas1776   Oct-17-09 05:31 PM   #39 
   Wouldn't be surprised if some of them were Goldmine Sucks/WallStreet shills  Sebastian Doyle   Oct-17-09 03:42 PM   #2 
   It would also hurt a potential recovery but some people here don't seem to want that either.  Pirate Smile   Oct-17-09 03:43 PM   #3 
   Who doesn't want the economy to recover?  Regret My New Name   Oct-17-09 04:53 PM   #24 
      I've seen some that literally want everything to crash and burn so it can be recreated into some  Pirate Smile   Oct-17-09 05:14 PM   #33 
         I've seen it as well. n/t  cherokeeprogressive   Oct-17-09 06:31 PM   #50 
         yep nt  ecstatic   Oct-18-09 03:14 PM   #73 
   We're all going to have to pay those prices so I don't think  Warpy   Oct-17-09 03:43 PM   #4 
   Raising taxes alone will not shore up dollar.  Statistical   Oct-17-09 03:55 PM   #10 
   It a typical attitude that reveals contempt for working people and rural people  bluestateguy   Oct-17-09 03:49 PM   #5 
   You know what you call people who don't own cars? Passengers and beggars.  imdjh   Oct-17-09 05:53 PM   #42 
      +1 nt  Codeine   Oct-17-09 07:41 PM   #55 
   Plenty of chaos junkies all around, not just on this board. . .  Journeyman   Oct-17-09 03:50 PM   #6 
   I have ZERO sympathy for people who drive gas guzzlers when they  kestrel91316   Oct-17-09 03:51 PM   #7 
   I own a 3/4 ton pick up that gets 10 mpg  michreject   Oct-17-09 10:10 PM   #67 
      I guess if you have a good time  Taitertots   Oct-18-09 03:29 PM   #75 
   It's not just you.  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 03:52 PM   #8 
   Perverse, but anticipatory  Dogmudgeon   Oct-17-09 03:52 PM   #9 
   I think that as long as we can buy cheap gas, we will never really  Thickasabrick   Oct-17-09 03:55 PM   #11 
   Americans need to wean themselves off of their petroleum addiction  depakid   Oct-17-09 03:55 PM   #12 
   Considering it hurts poor people disproportionately  MajorChode   Oct-17-09 03:57 PM   #13 
   This is not glee, however,  safeinOhio   Oct-17-09 04:28 PM   #19 
      That sounds like a false dichotomy  MajorChode   Oct-17-09 04:35 PM   #21 
   If we go back to $4.00 per gallon...?  kentuck   Oct-17-09 03:58 PM   #14 
   Until gas prices are high for a long period of time, this country won't support...  polichick   Oct-17-09 04:01 PM   #15 
   When a guy/gal says that money isn't important, ask him/her  demosincebirth   Oct-17-09 04:56 PM   #26 
   These are often the same people pissed that the Dow hit 10,000  Zomby Woof   Oct-17-09 04:23 PM   #16 
   And also the same people who think if it all collapses, we'll become a communist utopia  Rabrrrrrr   Oct-17-09 05:56 PM   #43 
   For sure.  GentryDixon   Oct-17-09 06:34 PM   #51 
   Some SUVs get decent mileage.  madeline_con   Oct-17-09 04:25 PM   #17 
   "Some DU-ers" will always say or think something ridiculous.  rucky   Oct-17-09 04:25 PM   #18 
   We're seriously considering buying an SUV...  cynatnite   Oct-17-09 04:32 PM   #20 
   The latest 2wd Escape hybrid does better than that  MajorChode   Oct-17-09 04:48 PM   #22 
      I thought the Chevy one was about the same mpg...thanks for that!  cynatnite   Oct-17-09 05:10 PM   #31 
         They are, roughly the same  MajorChode   Oct-17-09 05:22 PM   #35 
   Yeah. The Culture Warriors love shit like this.nt  anonymous171   Oct-17-09 04:53 PM   #23 
   I drive an hour to work in my Ford Focus  Chemisse   Oct-17-09 04:54 PM   #25 
   High gasoline  billh58   Oct-17-09 04:58 PM   #27 
   the "automobile apartheid" droolers are my favorite,  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Oct-17-09 04:59 PM   #28 
   We do need better public transit in America  Kievan Rus   Oct-17-09 05:03 PM   #29 
   yeah, and higher gas prices are going to help that along?  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Oct-17-09 05:09 PM   #30 
      Actually they can, we just don't do it in the US  MajorChode   Oct-17-09 05:27 PM   #37 
      It's a bit dishonest to say that high fuel taxes subsidize public transportation  taterguy   Oct-17-09 05:40 PM   #41 
      I'm not sure where that rumor got started, but it's more than just a bit dishonest  MajorChode   Oct-17-09 06:06 PM   #44 
         The "rumor" got started by reading budgets  taterguy   Oct-17-09 06:13 PM   #45 
            That's exactly what the HTF is for  MajorChode   Oct-17-09 08:14 PM   #60 
               LOL  taterguy   Oct-17-09 08:46 PM   #63 
                  How about I "show" you something that's a lot more relevant?  MajorChode   Oct-17-09 10:27 PM   #68 
                     ". . .non-automobile-related taxes pay for about 40% of the total cost of the road network"  taterguy   Oct-18-09 10:04 AM   #70 
                        Obviously your masturbatory glee has affected your eyesight  MajorChode   Oct-18-09 02:57 PM   #71 
      another thing they do is combine their systems  hfojvt   Oct-17-09 06:31 PM   #49 
      They do a lot of things smarter  MajorChode   Oct-17-09 08:20 PM   #62 
      Europeans also live in smaller areas  Codeine   Oct-17-09 07:43 PM   #57 
         Their population densities are higher, but even in less populated areas their mass transit is better  MajorChode   Oct-17-09 08:17 PM   #61 
      increased demand driving increased funding  MH1   Oct-17-09 05:27 PM   #38 
      You are right  malletgirl02   Oct-17-09 06:43 PM   #54 
   It's misguided to think higher gas prices alter consumption  taterguy   Oct-17-09 05:12 PM   #32 
   There's always those that welcome bad economic news  Capn Sunshine   Oct-17-09 05:19 PM   #34 
   They've invested themselves into that way of thinking  Codeine   Oct-17-09 07:46 PM   #58 
      I think that's it  Capn Sunshine   Oct-17-09 09:08 PM   #65 
   I would like to see higher gas prices, BUT via taxation with income tax credits  MH1   Oct-17-09 05:26 PM   #36 
   The higher the cost of fossil fuels......  frebrd   Oct-17-09 05:36 PM   #40 
   There's a serious discussion in here somewhere.  Gregorian   Oct-17-09 06:17 PM   #46 
      "The brainless"  Codeine   Oct-17-09 07:50 PM   #59 
         I make no assumption.  Gregorian   Oct-17-09 11:14 PM   #69 
   You're correct. There are people who applaud high gasoline prices.  TexasObserver   Oct-17-09 06:23 PM   #47 
   exactly  carlyhippy   Oct-17-09 06:29 PM   #48 
   I still hold my breath every 2 weeks  LWolf   Oct-17-09 06:36 PM   #52 
   I think you are right  malletgirl02   Oct-17-09 06:37 PM   #53 
   just months ago super premium was 20 cents more than reg. now it's 25. go figure  spanone   Oct-17-09 07:43 PM   #56 
   It's just you. nt  bemildred   Oct-17-09 08:51 PM   #64 
   I can't cheer.  Orsino   Oct-17-09 09:10 PM   #66 
   Somebody actually did that?  TicketyBoo   Oct-18-09 03:00 PM   #72 
   I'm less than worried about how high gas prices are going to effect my commute  Taitertots   Oct-18-09 03:27 PM   #74 
   I want a rally in the energy market because I own oil and natural gas. I'd rather sell it for more  RB TexLa   Oct-18-09 03:47 PM   #76 
 

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