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62. Well, I'm against the pretend War on Drugs also. Even though
Edited on Sun Oct-18-09 12:55 AM by sabrina 1
I have no interest in weed personally, I cannot believe that it is illegal. Grown up adults should have the right to smoke it if they want to. What a nanny state this is. All these 'Wars' on whatever, are nothing more than ways to take away rights and to make money, or provide an excuse to interfere in other countries. But one thing they are NOT for, is the welfare of the people. If the safety and well-being of the people was what this was all about we wouldn't have tens of thousands Americans dying every year because their government doesn't believe they have the right to live, would we?

That video is so disturbing to me. Looking at how she was treated, and I have not read her version of the story yet, I am appalled. To place someone in a 'box', to embarrass them in public like that, when did this ever become acceptable? You say it was all because she set off a metal detector? Well, let's say she had a knife. Aside from the awfulness of the whole procedure, they left her alone for so long, that if she had wanted to cause harm, she had plenty of time to do so. It's a sham, this whole 'security' game.

If that scene was meant to make anyone feel safer, it fails miserably to do so. A comment from that blo pretty much expresses what the rest of the world thinks of America these days:

.... I'm personally disgusted that a woman with a baby would be put in a glass cage for everyone to see - it must be humiliating. Fortunately I live in a civilised country, unlike the US..

I'm disgusted by it also and I do hope she and anyone else treated this way, files a complaint at least, or better yet, a lawsuit. That's the only way to stop this kind of treatment. I find it sad that anyone would excuse it.

Edited to add this comment which also expresses how that whole video will appear to people who value living in a really free society:

Anonymous said...

Setting aside the utterly dystopic visuals of "free Americans" being forced to disrobe or stand in plastic boxes as a government-imposed condition of travel, this video does not portray any kind of reasonable screening process.

Why is the mother, carrying a heavy-ish child, forced to stand in "the box" for all that time? And what, exactly, is happening when the TSO apparently sits her down for what appears to be a lecture?

While it is nice that TSA didn't abduct the child as claimed, I would expect TSA's explanation of this video to go a little bit beyond the very low bar of "see, we're not really kidnappers".

Show some professionalism, and explain the long "time out" in the box, and the apparent long period of hectoring thereafter, and how these comport with TSA's expectations of TSO conduct and performance.

Lots of good comments from people who obviously value respect for other people and the right to not be treated like this ever, in a country that claims to be all about freedom.
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  -TSA posts video of "TSA Agents Took My Son" incident: Freddie Stubbs  Oct-17-09 12:31 PM   #0 
  - seems like the mom was lying, exaggerating or remembered things differently  Liberal_in_LA   Oct-17-09 12:34 PM   #1 
  - Is it the same woman?  Sanity Claws   Oct-17-09 12:39 PM   #2 
  - After watching the video, are you not bothered by the fact that the  merh   Oct-17-09 12:40 PM   #3 
  - i was bothered by that  barbtries   Oct-17-09 01:20 PM   #6 
  - I don't know all the facts.  merh   Oct-17-09 02:09 PM   #10 
     - your points are well taken nt  barbtries   Oct-17-09 02:21 PM   #12 
     - But she did lie. A lot.  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 02:25 PM   #14 
     - The blurring is proof that the TSA considered that portion of the  merh   Oct-17-09 02:31 PM   #17 
        - Seriously? 21 seconds.  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 02:37 PM   #19 
           - Seriously, go watch the video and see how much transpires in  merh   Oct-17-09 02:59 PM   #23 
              - Average unimpeded walking speed is 2 ft / sec.  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 03:09 PM   #25 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-17-09 03:43 PM   #28 
  - No  Trekologer   Oct-17-09 10:55 PM   #46 
  - You didn't watch the video very closely.  merh   Oct-17-09 11:55 PM   #54 
  - No, I'm not ...  RoyGBiv   Oct-17-09 11:56 PM   #55 
  - Wow; pretty much contradicts her story. nt  blondeatlast   Oct-17-09 12:51 PM   #4 
  - Does it?  merh   Oct-17-09 02:11 PM   #11 
     - Wow! You're right. Conclusive evidence that she was sexually assaulted.  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 02:27 PM   #15 
     - No one said a thing about sexual assault.  merh   Oct-17-09 03:05 PM   #24 
        - I'm not accusing anyone of criminally violating my rights.  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 03:15 PM   #27 
           - I don't see an attention whore. I see an upset citizen  merh   Oct-17-09 03:46 PM   #29 
           - Yes there is a proven lie:  naaman fletcher   Oct-17-09 04:17 PM   #32 
              - Do you know if she was allowed to sit down by the conveyor belt?  merh   Oct-17-09 06:09 PM   #37 
           - Why are people being treated like criminals in the first place?  sabrina 1   Oct-18-09 12:07 AM   #57 
              - She set off the metal detector in an airport  WonderGrunion   Oct-18-09 12:16 AM   #58 
                 - Well, I'm against the pretend War on Drugs also. Even though  sabrina 1   Oct-18-09 12:49 AM   #62 
     - Yes from the video you can tell she lied.  naaman fletcher   Oct-17-09 05:03 PM   #36 
  - Guess who took her site down?  rvablue   Oct-17-09 01:08 PM   #5 
  - Wow, completely different "version" of the events.  JBoy   Oct-17-09 01:29 PM   #7 
  - My wife was separated from our then 4-month-old daughter and 3-year-old son  smoogatz   Oct-17-09 01:53 PM   #8 
  - When there are enough complaints, the TSA does change policy or retrain workers.  Gormy Cuss   Oct-17-09 02:21 PM   #13 
  - Too many anti authority people here.  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 02:03 PM   #9 
  - Seconds? Minutes? Hours? Days? Weeks? Years?  Fumesucker   Oct-17-09 02:30 PM   #16 
  - Hours. Edited previous post to clarify.  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 02:35 PM   #18 
     - White privilege? Sheesh.......  Darth_Kitten   Oct-17-09 02:38 PM   #20 
     - She thought she was above being scanned and had a tiff when she was.  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 02:40 PM   #21 
        - Gee, so it's about race now......  Darth_Kitten   Oct-17-09 02:42 PM   #22 
           - No I'm just showing that every strawman argument (TSA=Gestapo)  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 03:11 PM   #26 
     - Abuse of power is a given..  Fumesucker   Oct-17-09 04:03 PM   #31 
        - I'm just tired of kneejerk reactions to blame people  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 11:12 PM   #47 
           - It's teh intertoobz..  Fumesucker   Oct-17-09 11:26 PM   #51 
              - Well, if we're just slaves to internet behavior...  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 11:32 PM   #52 
                 - Godwin!  boppers   Oct-18-09 01:07 AM   #65 
                    - I specificly said that to invoke Godwin's Law  WonderGrunion   Oct-18-09 02:02 AM   #67 
  - I'm old enough to remember a time before submitting to a strip search was my patriotic duty.  lumberjack_jeff   Oct-17-09 05:00 PM   #35 
  - Put up with what?  Cessna Invesco Palin   Oct-17-09 06:17 PM   #38 
     - Good point. I don't know that I'm personally being wiretapped either.  lumberjack_jeff   Oct-18-09 12:40 AM   #60 
  - Lol, I think there are too many people on DU lately who worship authority.  krabigirl   Oct-17-09 11:23 PM   #50 
  - No but you confirm my suspicion that many joined DU  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 11:47 PM   #53 
  - Antiauthoritarianism is a hallmark of the liberal mind.  Xithras   Oct-18-09 12:46 AM   #61 
     - Thanks for the thoughtful post. I think my  LibDemAlways   Oct-18-09 01:00 AM   #64 
  - A SHORT TIMELINE OF WHAT HAPPENS:  naaman fletcher   Oct-17-09 03:51 PM   #30 
  - At 11:06 that was a money belt coming off her ankle  GoneOffShore   Oct-17-09 08:57 PM   #40 
  - Can the TSA sue the woman for libel? Lord knows this video completely kills her story. n/t  DRoseDARs   Oct-17-09 04:30 PM   #33 
  - Falling to the ground screaming crying hysteric blogger lying? I'm shocked!  REP   Oct-17-09 04:35 PM   #34 
  - Why did so many people believe her story without question?  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-17-09 08:45 PM   #39 
     - Because the TSA is always the bad guy  tammywammy   Oct-17-09 09:02 PM   #41 
     - Because when we think of the children, we just stop thinking  REP   Oct-18-09 12:56 AM   #63 
     - Not everyone did  MajorChode   Oct-18-09 02:51 AM   #71 
  - As I see the video.. this poor woman was stuck in a holding cell...  lib2DaBone   Oct-17-09 09:42 PM   #42 
  - When did a couple of minutes become a "long time"? n/t  tammywammy   Oct-17-09 09:53 PM   #43 
  - It was over 10 minutes. I guess you are A-ok with being held in a plastic box?  krabigirl   Oct-17-09 11:22 PM   #49 
     - No, it wasn't ...  RoyGBiv   Oct-18-09 12:18 AM   #59 
     - No, it was TWO minutes! The WHOLE INCIDENT only lasted TEN minutes.  rd_kent   Oct-18-09 02:37 AM   #70 
     - There's a pretty good reason which is not as nefarious as you imagine  MajorChode   Oct-18-09 02:58 AM   #72 
  - I think its over the top of fabricate details of the store that did not happen  Trekologer   Oct-17-09 10:50 PM   #45 
  - That's insane ...  RoyGBiv   Oct-18-09 12:02 AM   #56 
  - Raises hand. Of course the treatment is over the top. But it's  LibDemAlways   Oct-18-09 01:14 AM   #66 
  - WTF? Are you kidding?  rd_kent   Oct-18-09 02:31 AM   #68 
  - looks to me like she lied.  hurricanesfan27   Oct-17-09 10:17 PM   #44 
  - Hmmm..I wonder why some of it was edited out. It doesn't seem as bad as she described but ro  krabigirl   Oct-17-09 11:21 PM   #48 
     - She was in there for TWO minutes!  rd_kent   Oct-18-09 02:36 AM   #69 

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