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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 02:09 PM
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10. I don't know all the facts.
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 02:11 PM by merh

You don't either, especially if you are relying on the video.

There are missing time periods not captured on the video. The time clock jumps and seconds are left out of this video Sure, it appears that it wasn't more than seconds, but for someone prone to anxiety (she had her xanac with her), seconds can be days if trying to make a flight especially if you have a child to be concerned with.

What is truly sad is that she was required to unzip her pants, in public, in the presence of men, while she was "wanded". The exposure is so sensitive, the TSA blurred the video as she was wanded. I counted at lest 3 men walking around the area as the video was blurred. The additional screening appears to be in the public view as well.

No one should be required to expose themselves.

As a screener cautions:

Also something else you could do to help screeners and yourself. During the hand wanding process you may be asked to undo your belt, and then roll down the top of your pants over the zipper. Under no circumstances should you unbutton your pants and pull them down. I wouldn't bring this up it hadn't happen numerous times.

If she was required to expose herself in public her rights were violated.

And please realize, TSA policy provides that if one fails to walk through properly or if the person causes the WTMD to alarm, they only get one chance. Two people went through the process, she should have been afforded a second chance.

Did she lie, I don't know. Did she exaggerate, it is possible but that is not something that is uncommon or unexpected given her circumstances and that does not explain away the TSA violating her civil rights.


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  -TSA posts video of "TSA Agents Took My Son" incident: Freddie Stubbs  Oct-17-09 12:31 PM   #0 
  - seems like the mom was lying, exaggerating or remembered things differently  Liberal_in_LA   Oct-17-09 12:34 PM   #1 
  - Is it the same woman?  Sanity Claws   Oct-17-09 12:39 PM   #2 
  - After watching the video, are you not bothered by the fact that the  merh   Oct-17-09 12:40 PM   #3 
  - i was bothered by that  barbtries   Oct-17-09 01:20 PM   #6 
  - I don't know all the facts.  merh   Oct-17-09 02:09 PM   #10 
     - your points are well taken nt  barbtries   Oct-17-09 02:21 PM   #12 
     - But she did lie. A lot.  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 02:25 PM   #14 
     - The blurring is proof that the TSA considered that portion of the  merh   Oct-17-09 02:31 PM   #17 
        - Seriously? 21 seconds.  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 02:37 PM   #19 
           - Seriously, go watch the video and see how much transpires in  merh   Oct-17-09 02:59 PM   #23 
              - Average unimpeded walking speed is 2 ft / sec.  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 03:09 PM   #25 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-17-09 03:43 PM   #28 
  - No  Trekologer   Oct-17-09 10:55 PM   #46 
  - You didn't watch the video very closely.  merh   Oct-17-09 11:55 PM   #54 
  - No, I'm not ...  RoyGBiv   Oct-17-09 11:56 PM   #55 
  - Wow; pretty much contradicts her story. nt  blondeatlast   Oct-17-09 12:51 PM   #4 
  - Does it?  merh   Oct-17-09 02:11 PM   #11 
     - Wow! You're right. Conclusive evidence that she was sexually assaulted.  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 02:27 PM   #15 
     - No one said a thing about sexual assault.  merh   Oct-17-09 03:05 PM   #24 
        - I'm not accusing anyone of criminally violating my rights.  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 03:15 PM   #27 
           - I don't see an attention whore. I see an upset citizen  merh   Oct-17-09 03:46 PM   #29 
           - Yes there is a proven lie:  naaman fletcher   Oct-17-09 04:17 PM   #32 
              - Do you know if she was allowed to sit down by the conveyor belt?  merh   Oct-17-09 06:09 PM   #37 
           - Why are people being treated like criminals in the first place?  sabrina 1   Oct-18-09 12:07 AM   #57 
              - She set off the metal detector in an airport  WonderGrunion   Oct-18-09 12:16 AM   #58 
                 - Well, I'm against the pretend War on Drugs also. Even though  sabrina 1   Oct-18-09 12:49 AM   #62 
     - Yes from the video you can tell she lied.  naaman fletcher   Oct-17-09 05:03 PM   #36 
  - Guess who took her site down?  rvablue   Oct-17-09 01:08 PM   #5 
  - Wow, completely different "version" of the events.  JBoy   Oct-17-09 01:29 PM   #7 
  - My wife was separated from our then 4-month-old daughter and 3-year-old son  smoogatz   Oct-17-09 01:53 PM   #8 
  - When there are enough complaints, the TSA does change policy or retrain workers.  Gormy Cuss   Oct-17-09 02:21 PM   #13 
  - Too many anti authority people here.  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 02:03 PM   #9 
  - Seconds? Minutes? Hours? Days? Weeks? Years?  Fumesucker   Oct-17-09 02:30 PM   #16 
  - Hours. Edited previous post to clarify.  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 02:35 PM   #18 
     - White privilege? Sheesh.......  Darth_Kitten   Oct-17-09 02:38 PM   #20 
     - She thought she was above being scanned and had a tiff when she was.  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 02:40 PM   #21 
        - Gee, so it's about race now......  Darth_Kitten   Oct-17-09 02:42 PM   #22 
           - No I'm just showing that every strawman argument (TSA=Gestapo)  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 03:11 PM   #26 
     - Abuse of power is a given..  Fumesucker   Oct-17-09 04:03 PM   #31 
        - I'm just tired of kneejerk reactions to blame people  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 11:12 PM   #47 
           - It's teh intertoobz..  Fumesucker   Oct-17-09 11:26 PM   #51 
              - Well, if we're just slaves to internet behavior...  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 11:32 PM   #52 
                 - Godwin!  boppers   Oct-18-09 01:07 AM   #65 
                    - I specificly said that to invoke Godwin's Law  WonderGrunion   Oct-18-09 02:02 AM   #67 
  - I'm old enough to remember a time before submitting to a strip search was my patriotic duty.  lumberjack_jeff   Oct-17-09 05:00 PM   #35 
  - Put up with what?  Cessna Invesco Palin   Oct-17-09 06:17 PM   #38 
     - Good point. I don't know that I'm personally being wiretapped either.  lumberjack_jeff   Oct-18-09 12:40 AM   #60 
  - Lol, I think there are too many people on DU lately who worship authority.  krabigirl   Oct-17-09 11:23 PM   #50 
  - No but you confirm my suspicion that many joined DU  WonderGrunion   Oct-17-09 11:47 PM   #53 
  - Antiauthoritarianism is a hallmark of the liberal mind.  Xithras   Oct-18-09 12:46 AM   #61 
     - Thanks for the thoughtful post. I think my  LibDemAlways   Oct-18-09 01:00 AM   #64 
  - A SHORT TIMELINE OF WHAT HAPPENS:  naaman fletcher   Oct-17-09 03:51 PM   #30 
  - At 11:06 that was a money belt coming off her ankle  GoneOffShore   Oct-17-09 08:57 PM   #40 
  - Can the TSA sue the woman for libel? Lord knows this video completely kills her story. n/t  DRoseDARs   Oct-17-09 04:30 PM   #33 
  - Falling to the ground screaming crying hysteric blogger lying? I'm shocked!  REP   Oct-17-09 04:35 PM   #34 
  - Why did so many people believe her story without question?  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-17-09 08:45 PM   #39 
     - Because the TSA is always the bad guy  tammywammy   Oct-17-09 09:02 PM   #41 
     - Because when we think of the children, we just stop thinking  REP   Oct-18-09 12:56 AM   #63 
     - Not everyone did  MajorChode   Oct-18-09 02:51 AM   #71 
  - As I see the video.. this poor woman was stuck in a holding cell...  lib2DaBone   Oct-17-09 09:42 PM   #42 
  - When did a couple of minutes become a "long time"? n/t  tammywammy   Oct-17-09 09:53 PM   #43 
  - It was over 10 minutes. I guess you are A-ok with being held in a plastic box?  krabigirl   Oct-17-09 11:22 PM   #49 
     - No, it wasn't ...  RoyGBiv   Oct-18-09 12:18 AM   #59 
     - No, it was TWO minutes! The WHOLE INCIDENT only lasted TEN minutes.  rd_kent   Oct-18-09 02:37 AM   #70 
     - There's a pretty good reason which is not as nefarious as you imagine  MajorChode   Oct-18-09 02:58 AM   #72 
  - I think its over the top of fabricate details of the store that did not happen  Trekologer   Oct-17-09 10:50 PM   #45 
  - That's insane ...  RoyGBiv   Oct-18-09 12:02 AM   #56 
  - Raises hand. Of course the treatment is over the top. But it's  LibDemAlways   Oct-18-09 01:14 AM   #66 
  - WTF? Are you kidding?  rd_kent   Oct-18-09 02:31 AM   #68 
  - looks to me like she lied.  hurricanesfan27   Oct-17-09 10:17 PM   #44 
  - Hmmm..I wonder why some of it was edited out. It doesn't seem as bad as she described but ro  krabigirl   Oct-17-09 11:21 PM   #48 
     - She was in there for TWO minutes!  rd_kent   Oct-18-09 02:36 AM   #69 

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