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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-16-09 10:58 PM
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8. Ah, but the men will only get 72 white grapes...
not 72 virgins.


The Koran is beautifully written, but often obscure. One reason is that the Arabic language was born as a written language with the Koran, and there's growing evidence that many of the words were Syriac or Aramaic.

For example, the Koran says martyrs going to heaven will get ''hur,'' and the word was taken by early commentators to mean ''virgins,'' hence those 72 consorts. But in Aramaic, hur meant ''white'' and was commonly used to mean ''white grapes.''

Some martyrs arriving in paradise may regard a bunch of grapes as a letdown. But the scholar who pioneered this pathbreaking research, using the pseudonym Christoph Luxenberg for security reasons, noted in an e-mail interview that grapes made more sense in context because the Koran compares them to crystal and pearls, and because contemporary accounts have paradise abounding with fruit, especially white grapes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/04/opinion/martyrs-virgi...

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  -Do Muslim women get 72 virgin men when they go to heaven? Kablooie  Oct-16-09 10:26 PM   #0 
  - to be honest I wouldn't want 72 virgin men, one with enough experience  dugaresa   Oct-16-09 10:33 PM   #1 
  - Give me a call sometime  The Straight Story   Oct-16-09 10:34 PM   #3 
  - No it doesn't ....  gleaner   Oct-16-09 10:33 PM   #2 
  - They get no more of the sickening treatment muslim men dish out, that's heaven to them.  timeforpeace   Oct-16-09 11:08 PM   #9 
  - Wouldn't that be Hell ?  ashling   Oct-16-09 10:37 PM   #4 
  - I was just gonna say...  crim son   Oct-16-09 10:51 PM   #6 
  - 1 virgin man was enough  abbeyco   Oct-16-09 10:40 PM   #5 
  - They get 72 raisins, just like the men do  MajorChode   Oct-16-09 10:56 PM   #7 
  - Ah, but the men will only get 72 white grapes...  spin   Oct-16-09 10:58 PM   #8 
  - Please don't do this.  pinto   Oct-16-09 11:15 PM   #10 
 

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