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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 09:14 PM
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4. This would be the end of a lot of families...and seniors...
who already have to chose between food and heat.
This is just bullshit if true and I hope this does not pass.
Families that cannot afford health insurance would be fined? Where will they get the money....this is just ridiculous and wrong.
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  -MANDATE: Men with guns will come for me if I do not buy health insurance! Warren Stupidity  Oct-14-09 09:00 PM   #0 
  - mandated insurance is BS any way you spin it, and reforms nothing.  ixion   Oct-14-09 09:02 PM   #1 
  - Well no, if all the compelled just pay the fine Big HealthInsurance gets nada.  Warren Stupidity   Oct-14-09 09:06 PM   #2 
     - it's a mandate. it is involuntary. therefore NOT blown out of proportion  ixion   Oct-14-09 09:16 PM   #6 
     - Amen to that  derby378   Oct-14-09 09:30 PM   #9 
     - Buying things like iphones/dvds/plasma tvs/ or other consumer products  dflprincess   Oct-14-09 09:19 PM   #8 
        - +1  glitch   Oct-14-09 09:42 PM   #10 
  - And Delta Dental Insurance for your kids  Oregone   Oct-14-09 09:11 PM   #3 
  - This would be the end of a lot of families...and seniors...  winyanstaz   Oct-14-09 09:14 PM   #4 
  - why seniors?  dysfunctional press   Oct-14-09 10:31 PM   #21 
     - a lot of seniors on a fixed income are also taking care of families that have moved back in...  winyanstaz   Oct-14-09 10:38 PM   #22 
     - "it will put us all out on the street" how so? there are subsidies for the indigent.  dysfunctional press   Oct-14-09 10:57 PM   #25 
        - why doesn't congress just skip the middle man (us) and just flat out GIVE the money straight to the  niyad   Oct-14-09 11:59 PM   #30 
        - We did. Insurance companies are some of the biggest "investors" in  Greyhound   Oct-15-09 09:58 AM   #37 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-15-09 12:58 AM   #31 
        - if he makes good money, and he's "a fine man with a big heart who cares about his family"  dysfunctional press   Oct-15-09 01:04 AM   #32 
           - he cannot afford to pay for everyones insurance.  winyanstaz   Oct-15-09 12:01 PM   #45 
              - then what do you consider to be "good money"...?  dysfunctional press   Oct-15-09 11:07 PM   #46 
                 - I guess good money to me at this point in my life..means he can support himself on what he makes..  winyanstaz   Oct-16-09 04:08 AM   #48 
                    - so- your sons wouldn't help when their father was sick and dying...  dysfunctional press   Oct-16-09 10:32 AM   #52 
        - Some people actually care about their families  winyanstaz   Oct-15-09 11:59 AM   #44 
           - any adult child that would cause their senior parents to lose their home  dysfunctional press   Oct-15-09 11:13 PM   #47 
              - first off.. I resent your calling my kids twit.  winyanstaz   Oct-16-09 04:11 AM   #50 
                 - sounds like you really raised them right.  dysfunctional press   Oct-16-09 10:29 AM   #51 
     - Shhh. He's on a roll. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Oct-15-09 10:09 AM   #39 
  - I see a Supreme Court challenge in this mandate's future  Sinti   Oct-14-09 09:15 PM   #5 
  - It would sail through the courts...  Davis_X_Machina   Oct-14-09 11:28 PM   #26 
  - I don't understand any of this. If the market really worked  EFerrari   Oct-14-09 09:17 PM   #7 
  - If the market really worked...  glitch   Oct-14-09 09:45 PM   #12 
  - I am curious  riverbendviewgal   Oct-14-09 09:44 PM   #11 
  - I agree 20 percent is not alot of taxes to pay to help others who  NavyDavy   Oct-14-09 09:55 PM   #14 
  - You live in a rational system.  glitch   Oct-14-09 09:57 PM   #15 
  - Thank you for your kind words  riverbendviewgal   Oct-14-09 11:53 PM   #28 
     - Thank you.  glitch   Oct-15-09 09:48 AM   #35 
  - Most U.S. citizens pay more than 20% tax...  regnaD kciN   Oct-14-09 10:27 PM   #19 
  - the final versions not even out and u guys are already crying  NavyDavy   Oct-14-09 09:50 PM   #13 
  - of course by "crying" you must mean "whining" - please stick to the script.  glitch   Oct-14-09 10:00 PM   #17 
  - Actually, you will face potential jail time  Neecy   Oct-14-09 10:00 PM   #16 
  - Actually, that's not the case...  regnaD kciN   Oct-14-09 10:29 PM   #20 
     - so if you are on disability or military they will withhold your money?  winyanstaz   Oct-14-09 10:41 PM   #23 
     - What if you have no federal payments due?  Neecy   Oct-14-09 10:48 PM   #24 
     - Accrue it and deduct it from your social security, eventually. nt  glitch   Oct-15-09 09:50 AM   #36 
        - sounds like a fine way to raid social security.....  winyanstaz   Oct-17-09 05:04 PM   #54 
     - Massachusetts....  Davis_X_Machina   Oct-14-09 11:32 PM   #27 
        - The number polled was about 508 people  ipaint   Oct-15-09 01:09 AM   #33 
  - I wish they'd come with guns. They have their ways of stealing your money.  Democrats_win   Oct-14-09 10:02 PM   #18 
  - they can go to hell. I am telling them now, won't pay for insurance, won't pay the fine.  niyad   Oct-14-09 11:56 PM   #29 
  - Okey dokey. Keep in touch! nt  lumberjack_jeff   Oct-15-09 10:12 AM   #40 
  - Medicare is mandated for those on SS. nt  Liquorice   Oct-15-09 01:10 AM   #34 
  - As would be the public option or single payer if passed  kctim   Oct-15-09 10:08 AM   #38 
  - Universal = Mandatory  lumberjack_jeff   Oct-15-09 10:14 AM   #41 
  - Nonsense, the IRS will  Autumn   Oct-15-09 10:21 AM   #42 
  - Toss that fine onto my unpaid back taxes  SOS   Oct-15-09 10:26 AM   #43 
  - no  Theodoregrey   Oct-16-09 04:11 AM   #49 
  - See what happens when you don't pay insurance mafia  kenny blankenship   Oct-16-09 10:37 AM   #53 

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