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Reply #89: 40 million is at most 0.6% of the worlds population [View All]

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89. 40 million is at most 0.6% of the worlds population
Edited on Fri Oct-16-09 12:40 AM by GirlinContempt
engaging in abortion. To me, that is not very much. When you look at the number 40,000,000 by itself, it seems like an inconceivable number. But when you actually put it in to perspective, that's not very much. That's less than the percentage of condoms that break (2%). That's less than the failure rate of the pill (5%), it's around the same as the failure of the sterilization method (0.5 for women and 0.2 for men). Look at it another way: In 2007, 4,315,000 babies WERE born in the USA ALONE! THE USA ALONE!

With the number of people that exist in the world, and the fact that not all have access to or knowledge about birth control, that number is not as high as it could be, frankly. I find it to be lower than I would have thought.

I don't *want* women to have to go through abortion. I would rather women who did not want babies never got pregnant, but there is no fail-safe way to achieve that at this time, and as long as rape, violence, ignorance and poverty abound, this is what it is. I don't find it abhorrent that less than one percent of the worlds population has found themselves in a situation requiring an abortion. Shit happens. Condoms break, the pill fails, violence against women abounds, accidents will happen.

How many women do you know who use abortion as a method of birth control? Seriously, I want to know. I hear that shit all the time, I can not imagine the woman who runs around having unprotected sex thinking "I'll just have an abortion, whopeee!". It's far more invasive and costly than a box of condoms or a script for pills, and the whole concept is just ridiculous to me. Whatever, people say it, I disbelieve it. (Edited to add I read that story in the related post... that is an extreme case, the exception that proves the rule so to speak.)

What I find more abhorrent than the number of abortions is the number of people who live in situations that will never allow them the education, the freedom, the means or the safety to engage in their lives as they would like, to have or not have children, to be safe and healthy and free and happy. That is a far greater ill. And it goes hand in hand with the issue of abortion. Until people are educated, safe and cared for, abortion rates will never decline. And to act as though people here are in love with abortion and think it's great, that's disingenuous. People think it's great that women HAVE THE OPTION, that they CAN have an abortion, that they were not forced to go through with the pregnancy, or forced to use some scary back-ally coat hanger man. I rejoice in the number of abortions for that reason and that reason alone. And if it is documented, at least it has the probability of being safe, clean and one can hope with dignity. That doesn't mean I think women should run out and get knocked up so they can visit the abortion clinic. It means I am happy that they have that option, that it hasn't been taken from them. And hopefully, as we progress, it will become less necessary.
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  Report: Unsafe abortions kill 70,000 annually The Sushi Bandit  Oct-14-09 08:43 PM   #0 
   I hope that this goes better than a thread last night on the  tnlefty   Oct-14-09 08:50 PM   #1 
   40 million plus abortions worldwide  kanrok   Oct-14-09 08:54 PM   #2 
      And your point is what exactly?  tnlefty   Oct-14-09 10:57 PM   #3 
      You wouldn't understand my point.  kanrok   Oct-14-09 11:29 PM   #6 
      Is tnlefty personally responsible for 40 million abortions per year?  beam me up scottie   Oct-14-09 11:45 PM   #7 
      tnlefty HAS been pretty busy recently. eom  uppityperson   Oct-15-09 10:37 PM   #61 
         HA! I was going to preface that with Bill Murray's famous line from Tootsie: "You slut."  beam me up scottie   Oct-15-09 10:43 PM   #64 
            LOL, you never fail to crack me up, BMUS!  Odin2005   Oct-17-09 12:59 PM   #231 
               Odin!  beam me up scottie   Oct-18-09 01:00 AM   #279 
                  Thank you!  Odin2005   Oct-18-09 09:19 AM   #295 
      we understand your point perfectly--women don't matter, only zygotes  niyad   Oct-15-09 01:22 AM   #10 
      Yes, of course...you know me so well  kanrok   Oct-15-09 12:10 PM   #18 
         when they start to pay taxes n/t  Scout   Oct-15-09 09:15 PM   #44 
         !  beam me up scottie   Oct-15-09 09:49 PM   #51 
         When do they for you? Should an abortion ever be done, or be legal?  uppityperson   Oct-15-09 10:39 PM   #62 
         Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-17-09 05:21 PM   #247 
         Birth.  tekisui   Oct-16-09 09:08 AM   #132 
         Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-16-09 01:58 PM   #153 
         Let's see if you can answer....  uppityperson   Oct-17-09 04:10 PM   #240 
      Better abortion than a woman being forced to continue...  Feron   Oct-15-09 01:59 AM   #12 
      Should we be sad?  armyowalgreens   Oct-15-09 02:01 AM   #13 
      Explain your point so we can all understand.  Maru Kitteh   Oct-15-09 02:10 AM   #15 
      I've always assumed  kanrok   Oct-15-09 08:43 AM   #17 
         If the abortion is safe and legal, it means that the women have rights.  roody   Oct-15-09 12:25 PM   #22 
         Rights are great.  kanrok   Oct-15-09 12:34 PM   #24 
            Is there a time when *you* are actually going to give birth?  Lars39   Oct-15-09 12:36 PM   #26 
            I see...  kanrok   Oct-15-09 12:39 PM   #27 
               Back atcha.  Lars39   Oct-15-09 12:40 PM   #28 
               men can have opinions about anything, but until it is THEIR bodies being hosts to parasites  niyad   Oct-15-09 06:09 PM   #33 
               Specious argument  kanrok   Oct-15-09 06:19 PM   #38 
                  "going back in the womb and having your body parts torn asunder."  beam me up scottie   Oct-15-09 09:51 PM   #52 
                  It's not propaganda  kanrok   Oct-15-09 09:55 PM   #53 
                     Lecture me about the "science".  beam me up scottie   Oct-15-09 10:00 PM   #55 
                     Oooh yes. I want to hear about this science thingy too. Mind if I pull up a chair?  Maru Kitteh   Oct-15-09 10:15 PM   #58 
                        Sure, grab a beer from the cooler!  beam me up scottie   Oct-15-09 10:18 PM   #59 
                           Cool.  Maru Kitteh   Oct-15-09 10:31 PM   #60 
                              Nice choice!  beam me up scottie   Oct-15-09 10:46 PM   #65 
                              Feel free to wallow in your ignorance, Sparky  kanrok   Oct-15-09 11:08 PM   #71 
                              bwahahahahahahahaha. Wait, were you serious?  uppityperson   Oct-15-09 11:10 PM   #72 
                              So you got nothing. How predictable.  beam me up scottie   Oct-15-09 11:21 PM   #75 
                              Hey...I can get as much of that as you want! right down the street  TK421   Oct-17-09 05:47 PM   #249 
                              Why thank you!  beam me up scottie   Oct-18-09 01:31 AM   #280 
                     Looking for "body parts" which can be "torn asunder" here. Hmmm.....  uppityperson   Oct-15-09 10:47 PM   #66 
                     Hmmm..  kanrok   Oct-15-09 11:07 PM   #69 
                        Why don't you tell us, Mr. Science?  beam me up scottie   Oct-15-09 11:23 PM   #76 
                        Did a quick search and post. If you want to post something else, feel free  uppityperson   Oct-16-09 12:56 AM   #102 
                     would this be the same "science" that shows a six-week fetus as fully developed and functioning,  niyad   Oct-16-09 11:43 AM   #140 
                  sweetie, we have been dealing with your type of "argument" for decades-- none of the basic bs  niyad   Oct-16-09 11:30 AM   #138 
               and do YOU have a point, or are YOU just here to argue a subject that will never  niyad   Oct-15-09 06:10 PM   #35 
                  But, it will! think of how many of this man's sperm may have been torn asunder from his body!  uppityperson   Oct-15-09 10:47 PM   #67 
                     Better check his sock drawer and his shower drain. He may be a mass-sperm murderer.  Maru Kitteh   Oct-16-09 02:02 AM   #127 
            they have rights when they draw their first independent breath--until then, biologically, they are  niyad   Oct-15-09 06:06 PM   #32 
            fetuses get rights after they are born n/t  Scout   Oct-15-09 09:17 PM   #46 
            Legally, third trimester, though they have more about 20-24 weeks.  uppityperson   Oct-15-09 10:41 PM   #63 
            Fetuses have no rights, nor should they.  tekisui   Oct-16-09 09:08 AM   #133 
            A fetus gains rights--and a consciousness--at birth.  Arkana   Oct-17-09 05:03 PM   #246 
               Yes! Of Course!  kanrok   Oct-18-09 12:10 AM   #267 
                  YOU are the only "pro-death proponent" here.  beam me up scottie   Oct-18-09 02:24 AM   #287 
                  "Pro-death"?  Arkana   Oct-18-09 01:00 PM   #301 
         "ends the discussion with me"  Scout   Oct-15-09 09:16 PM   #45 
         Nah.  kanrok   Oct-15-09 09:47 PM   #50 
         The only negative thing about abortion is that it sometimes  Maru Kitteh   Oct-15-09 10:12 PM   #57 
         Abortion is a moral and positive choice that liberates women,  PeaceNikki   Oct-16-09 08:07 PM   #185 
            And kills children.  kanrok   Oct-17-09 08:02 AM   #202 
               No, it ends pregnancy. Pregnancy and childbirth kill women.  PeaceNikki   Oct-17-09 10:38 AM   #205 
               Ends "pregnancy"  kanrok   Oct-17-09 12:06 PM   #210 
                  It's a legal medical procedure. No matter how you spin it.  PeaceNikki   Oct-17-09 12:09 PM   #211 
                  No question is is a legal medical procedure  kanrok   Oct-17-09 12:13 PM   #214 
                     You = laughable.  PeaceNikki   Oct-17-09 12:14 PM   #215 
                     Okay  kanrok   Oct-17-09 12:15 PM   #219 
                        .  PeaceNikki   Oct-17-09 12:16 PM   #222 
                        The answer is "no."  kanrok   Oct-17-09 04:55 PM   #244 
                           I don't know how you can morally justify that opinion.  PeaceNikki   Oct-17-09 05:41 PM   #248 
                              Ooohhh...you caught me!  kanrok   Oct-17-09 06:11 PM   #251 
                        What are your credentials, kanrok?  PeaceNikki   Oct-17-09 12:21 PM   # 
                           Excellent.  kanrok   Oct-17-09 11:57 PM   #264 
                     What is the "procedure"? What is it? Can you answer or merely duck/insult?  uppityperson   Oct-17-09 04:16 PM   #243 
                  What is your definition of "life", "Life" that you are using here? eom  uppityperson   Oct-17-09 12:16 PM   #221 
                  Based on that reasoning sperm and eggs are "life", too.  Odin2005   Oct-17-09 01:07 PM   #233 
                  Umm...nope  kanrok   Oct-17-09 06:08 PM   #250 
                     Um, yep. Haploid gametes technically are individuals.  Odin2005   Oct-17-09 06:32 PM   #255 
                        I guess I'm a dilpoid centrist then.  kanrok   Oct-17-09 06:53 PM   #256 
                           I am just taking your thinking to it's logical conclusion.  Odin2005   Oct-17-09 07:12 PM   #259 
                              Well  kanrok   Oct-17-09 11:00 PM   #261 
                                 Your opinion has nothing to do with science.  Odin2005   Oct-17-09 11:31 PM   #262 
                                    Yes. Yes.  kanrok   Oct-17-09 11:54 PM   #263 
                                       "Bias"? I think you are projecting.  Odin2005   Oct-18-09 12:24 AM   #275 
                                       If you say so.  kanrok   Oct-18-09 12:25 AM   #277 
                                       What kind of "bias" would a young atheist majoring in biology have?  beam me up scottie   Oct-18-09 01:40 AM   #281 
                                       +1  Odin2005   Oct-18-09 09:24 AM   #296 
                                       No, that is called psychology.  uppityperson   Oct-18-09 02:26 AM   #288 
                                       "I reside in the real world."  Scout   Oct-18-09 01:23 PM   #302 
                  "ends life"="kills child"? Define "life". But no, you never answer, just duck, insult.  uppityperson   Oct-17-09 04:16 PM   #242 
                  Are you a vegan?  uppityperson   Oct-17-09 06:25 PM   #254 
               Do you think that people who have abortions should be punished?  PeaceNikki   Oct-17-09 11:32 AM   #208 
               No. Abortion does not kill children. Unless done improperly on a child, which is possible, esp with  uppityperson   Oct-17-09 04:15 PM   #241 
      Part of the story at the link in the OP is that making abortion illegal does not reduce abortions  csziggy   Oct-15-09 06:51 PM   #42 
         Proof that it's all about punishing women, not about the fetus.  Odin2005   Oct-17-09 01:09 PM   #235 
            Very illogical  kanrok   Oct-18-09 12:11 AM   #268 
               Why, yes, your religious beliefs about women and pregnancy are extremely illogical.  beam me up scottie   Oct-18-09 01:49 AM   #284 
      If us guys could get prgnant abortion would be a sacrement.  Odin2005   Oct-17-09 12:57 PM   #230 
         And there would be abortion clinics on every corner.  PeaceNikki   Oct-17-09 12:59 PM   #232 
      Yes, they ARE just fetuses, what else would they be?  beam me up scottie   Oct-14-09 11:17 PM   #4 
      Do go on.  LeftyMom   Oct-14-09 11:19 PM   #5 
      and 1600+ women A DAY die from complications from pregnancy and childbirth--but hey, they're just  niyad   Oct-15-09 01:21 AM   #9 
      Just To Clarify: Almost All Of Them Are In Africa.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Oct-15-09 12:16 PM   #19 
         you might want to take a look at maternal death rates in this country, which, by the way  niyad   Oct-15-09 06:12 PM   #36 
         Graph/country link.  uppityperson   Oct-15-09 10:52 PM   #68 
            Well...there goes that meme  kanrok   Oct-15-09 11:11 PM   #73 
               True, there is also the illegality of abortion issue in most of those places, as well as poor health  uppityperson   Oct-15-09 11:17 PM   #74 
                  Be careful, sister, he's a clever one.  beam me up scottie   Oct-15-09 11:27 PM   #78 
                  I hoped that when Obama was elected  kanrok   Oct-15-09 11:35 PM   #79 
                     Pres Obama is funding contraception availability to other countries again  uppityperson   Oct-15-09 11:58 PM   #83 
                     Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-16-09 12:01 AM   #86 
                     'Common ground' would be sex ed, contraception, and safe legal abortions.  Hello_Kitty   Oct-16-09 01:52 AM   #122 
                        Anyone that calls themself :pro-life is a misogynistic bigot, period.  Odin2005   Oct-17-09 01:13 PM   #236 
                           Very tolerant of you  kanrok   Oct-18-09 12:05 AM   #265 
                              Actually yes, Odin is very tolerant and is a fine liberal young man.  beam me up scottie   Oct-18-09 01:45 AM   #282 
                              No, he is intolerant of bigots. That isn't a problem for most peoplt though.  uppityperson   Oct-18-09 02:28 AM   #289 
                              being progressive does not mean you have to be tolerant  Scout   Oct-18-09 01:26 PM   #303 
      And it's none of your fucking business.  Zoeisright   Oct-15-09 01:36 AM   #11 
      +1 , , , , THAT was beautiful.  Maru Kitteh   Oct-15-09 02:11 AM   #16 
      What Is None Of Their Fucking Business?  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Oct-15-09 12:17 PM   #20 
      And I'm sure you care equally about all the adult lives being lost for lack of health care?  azmouse   Oct-15-09 12:19 PM   #21 
      I do.  kanrok   Oct-15-09 12:35 PM   #25 
         No I can't.  azmouse   Oct-15-09 12:46 PM   #30 
         i could give a rats ass about the fetuses  Scout   Oct-15-09 09:20 PM   #47 
         Do you care about the fetuses? How many kids have you adopted?  beam me up scottie   Oct-15-09 09:59 PM   #54 
      i view it as 40 million less children abused, neglected or ignored  dugaresa   Oct-15-09 12:27 PM   #23 
      Wouldn't we all be better off  kanrok   Oct-15-09 12:44 PM   #29 
         organizations like Planned Parenthood try to reduce that incidence  dugaresa   Oct-15-09 12:57 PM   #31 
         We should reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies...  armyowalgreens   Oct-15-09 06:09 PM   #34 
         wow--then maybe you ought to talk to some of the people who not only oppose abortion, but also  niyad   Oct-15-09 06:17 PM   #37 
         Yes, we should try to find ways to decrease abortions...  ljm2002   Oct-15-09 06:38 PM   #40 
         Wow!  kanrok   Oct-15-09 09:09 PM   #43 
            blah, blah, blah, yadda yadda  Scout   Oct-15-09 09:23 PM   #49 
            "people who use abortion as a contraceptive device turn my stomach."  beam me up scottie   Oct-15-09 10:03 PM   #56 
            I can't stand disingenuous pricks who talk about finding 'common ground' with anti-choicers  Hello_Kitty   Oct-16-09 01:22 PM   #148 
               Precisely my point!  kanrok   Oct-16-09 01:39 PM   #151 
               Bullshit. That's exactly what you're up to.  Hello_Kitty   Oct-16-09 02:22 PM   #155 
               Bullshit right back to you  kanrok   Oct-16-09 02:44 PM   #156 
                  I pity the women in your life.  beam me up scottie   Oct-17-09 12:16 AM   #194 
                     Oh look! Another insult!  kanrok   Oct-17-09 08:00 AM   #200 
               You are a misogynistic bigot that hates women. so STFU.  Odin2005   Oct-17-09 01:16 PM   #237 
                  Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-18-09 12:08 AM   #266 
                     How dare we be intolerant of bigots? Damn us all  uppityperson   Oct-18-09 02:32 AM   #291 
                        Yep, no different than the Fundies that think criticizing their bigotry is somehow...  Odin2005   Oct-18-09 09:26 AM   #297 
                           I like this image  PeaceNikki   Oct-18-09 09:37 AM   #299 
                              I think I posted that on DU a couple years ago!  Odin2005   Oct-18-09 09:50 AM   #300 
               Exactly, he could care less about babies.  beam me up scottie   Oct-17-09 12:04 AM   #192 
                  Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz  kanrok   Oct-17-09 08:01 AM   #201 
            40 million is at most 0.6% of the worlds population  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 12:07 AM   #89 
            +++++++++++++!  uppityperson   Oct-16-09 12:16 AM   #91 
            Thank you, that was beautiful.  beam me up scottie   Oct-16-09 12:37 AM   #99 
            I figured I'd do the math.  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 12:42 AM   #100 
               I've saved your work.  beam me up scottie   Oct-16-09 01:03 AM   #104 
                  Why's that?  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 01:08 AM   #106 
                     They usually catapult the propaganda.  beam me up scottie   Oct-16-09 01:25 AM   #111 
                        Ahh yes, I'm aware of some of those.  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 01:27 AM   #113 
                           Oh, your gallows humour down-thread is priceless.  beam me up scottie   Oct-16-09 01:32 AM   #116 
                              speaking of  uppityperson   Oct-16-09 01:33 AM   #117 
                              Thinking is painful.  beam me up scottie   Oct-16-09 01:50 AM   #121 
                              I'm willing to bet  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 01:38 AM   #118 
                                 Or they'll freak because we can joke about such things.  beam me up scottie   Oct-16-09 01:53 AM   #123 
                                    To me  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 01:56 AM   #124 
                                       That's what usually happens in these threads.  beam me up scottie   Oct-16-09 02:02 AM   #126 
            Oh, I was looking for some info for the whole worlds births  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 12:45 AM   #101 
               Thank you for pulling out numbers.  uppityperson   Oct-16-09 12:58 AM   #103 
                  I think it's important.  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 01:07 AM   #105 
                     Rather like these posts about DUers making it "real" also.  uppityperson   Oct-16-09 01:18 AM   #108 
                        Oh wow, what sad posts.  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 01:26 AM   #112 
            So where do I get the thank you note sent?  LeftyMom   Oct-16-09 12:25 AM   #95 
            Wait a second. I just looked at your profile...You are male?  tekisui   Oct-16-09 09:11 AM   #134 
            didn't even have to check the profile to know it was male, but merely confirmed.  niyad   Oct-16-09 11:33 AM   #139 
            I find it abhorrent that 70,000 women die annually  Amaya   Oct-16-09 05:50 PM   #177 
               Good for you.  kanrok   Oct-16-09 07:49 PM   #182 
               I agree.  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 10:44 PM   #189 
         why? how is depriving a woman of a legal medical procedure  Scout   Oct-15-09 09:21 PM   #48 
      Do you care about the fetuses? How many kids have you adopted?  beam me up scottie   Oct-15-09 11:25 PM   #77 
      I'm willing to bet I do more than you  kanrok   Oct-15-09 11:38 PM   #80 
         Sure I will, right after you blind us with your science up-thread.  beam me up scottie   Oct-15-09 11:54 PM   #81 
         LOL  kanrok   Oct-15-09 11:56 PM   #82 
            That's twice so far you have used "no better than freeper" insult. Odd  uppityperson   Oct-16-09 12:00 AM   #85 
            He's mentioned his peeps at fr several times. Hi guys!!!1!  beam me up scottie   Oct-16-09 12:03 AM   #87 
            Then you haven't read them all  kanrok   Oct-16-09 12:04 AM   #88 
            Fascinating. Tell us more about the people you "argue" with at freepland.  beam me up scottie   Oct-16-09 12:18 AM   #93 
         Hey, did you know that not only am I a nurse but an astronaut also? I'll PM you and  uppityperson   Oct-15-09 11:59 PM   #84 
            I'm happy for you.  kanrok   Oct-16-09 12:08 AM   #90 
               My girlfriends had an abortion party last week, I didn't get the door prize because, sniff  uppityperson   Oct-16-09 12:18 AM   #92 
                  There was a bonus prize for having the niftiest prolapsed uterus.  beam me up scottie   Oct-16-09 12:34 AM   #97 
                  You betcha! wink  uppityperson   Oct-16-09 12:37 AM   #98 
                  You can borrow mine (uterus) if you like.  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 01:14 AM   #107 
                  Golly, THANK YOU. Sounds like  uppityperson   Oct-16-09 01:19 AM   #109 
                     Not yet.  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 01:22 AM   #110 
                        Well, when you're ready for a break, I'll borrow it!  uppityperson   Oct-16-09 01:29 AM   #114 
                        Sure, no problem.  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 01:45 AM   #120 
                        Is that the Party Plan?  beam me up scottie   Oct-16-09 01:30 AM   #115 
                           I'm on a frequent-buyer program.  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 01:42 AM   #119 
                              ROFL! The sarcasm is strong in this one!  beam me up scottie   Oct-16-09 01:58 AM   #125 
                                 Well, tell him I'm sorry to disturb his sleep  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 02:24 AM   #128 
                                    He has the night off so I'll have to go the nearest truck stop.  beam me up scottie   Oct-16-09 02:37 AM   #129 
                                       Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-16-09 12:50 PM   #147 
                  Based upon most of the posts in this thread  kanrok   Oct-16-09 09:04 AM   #131 
                     DENSE.  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 10:30 AM   #136 
                     I'm good, I called it. I wonder if this is being discussed  uppityperson   Oct-16-09 02:20 PM   #154 
                        Look downthread  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 03:15 PM   #159 
                     We're all going to get knocked up - just for you!  beam me up scottie   Oct-17-09 12:12 AM   #193 
                        Hmmmm...  kanrok   Oct-17-09 08:06 AM   #203 
                           LOL! I was posting from my laptop while in bed with my boyfriend, Cartman.  beam me up scottie   Oct-17-09 10:57 AM   #207 
                           Yeah  kanrok   Oct-17-09 12:01 PM   #209 
                              Mr. Bmus said to tell you that I'm hot, too.  beam me up scottie   Oct-18-09 01:51 AM   #285 
                           Guess you don't know about time zones or shift work.  uppityperson   Oct-17-09 12:21 PM   #223 
                              HAHAHA ZING!  GirlinContempt   Oct-17-09 12:41 PM   #225 
                              He also doesn't know anything about grown up relationships.  beam me up scottie   Oct-18-09 01:48 AM   #283 
      Citation?  gratuitous   Oct-16-09 11:49 AM   #141 
      He`s citing the article in the OP  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 12:03 PM   #142 
         Reductio ad absurdum  kanrok   Oct-16-09 12:21 PM   #143 
            I missed something  gratuitous   Oct-16-09 12:32 PM   #144 
            In what way is it absurd  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 12:33 PM   #145 
               Hey!  kanrok   Oct-16-09 12:47 PM   #146 
                  It isn't an 'argument'  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 01:27 PM   #149 
                  Again, your argument misses the mark  kanrok   Oct-16-09 01:38 PM   #150 
                     It isn't inconvenient to me.  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 01:54 PM   #152 
                     Yeah, it is an inconvenient fact for you  kanrok   Oct-16-09 02:52 PM   #157 
                        You're very wrong.  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 03:15 PM   #158 
                           Okay!  kanrok   Oct-16-09 03:39 PM   #164 
                              Bravo for intentional stupidity!  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 03:43 PM   #166 
                              Oh, I get it now!  kanrok   Oct-16-09 04:41 PM   #170 
                                 No, you don`t get it. Clearly.  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 04:52 PM   #172 
                                    Thanks.  kanrok   Oct-16-09 05:01 PM   #173 
                                       You. Are. Nuts.  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 05:04 PM   #174 
                                          You. first.  kanrok   Oct-16-09 07:43 PM   #179 
                              so what if there are abortions?  Scout   Oct-16-09 03:45 PM   #167 
                              Yeah, who really cares about human life?  kanrok   Oct-16-09 04:45 PM   #171 
                              yes. because i know that women don't do that. you're the one with the fantasy about that.  Scout   Oct-16-09 05:31 PM   #175 
                              Now you did it.  kanrok   Oct-16-09 07:42 PM   #178 
                              Why do I get the feeling you are talking late term abortions with "dismemberment" stuff  uppityperson   Oct-17-09 12:38 AM   #195 
                                 I`m still curious  GirlinContempt   Oct-17-09 12:59 AM   #196 
                                 What is he doing to prevent abortions?  beam me up scottie   Oct-17-09 01:02 AM   #197 
                                 You are incorrect.  kanrok   Oct-17-09 08:13 AM   #204 
                                    Please tell me here. Explain further. I would like to hear.  uppityperson   Oct-17-09 12:14 PM   #216 
                                    Let me ask you the same questions, see if you can answer me...  uppityperson   Oct-17-09 12:15 PM   #218 
                                    BTW, I do know how and why and to whom. Yes, I have seen them.  uppityperson   Oct-17-09 07:12 PM   #258 
                                       Your post deserves a standing ovation. Thank you.  beam me up scottie   Oct-18-09 01:56 AM   #286 
                                       +10000  Scout   Oct-18-09 01:30 PM   #304 
                                       I asked him to, but he hasn't sent me much of anything yet.  uppityperson   Oct-18-09 02:58 PM   #308 
                              A fetus MUST be more important, even than a real live CHILD!!  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 07:48 PM   #181 
                                 Bull. Shit. Indeed.  kanrok   Oct-16-09 07:52 PM   #184 
                                 Go away.  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 10:39 PM   #187 
                                 Nope.  kanrok   Oct-17-09 07:56 AM   #199 
                                    I find this to be ironic  GirlinContempt   Oct-17-09 12:42 PM   #226 
                                 No, this thread was started discussing the death of women.  PeaceNikki   Oct-17-09 10:42 AM   #206 
                                    Very articulate response.  kanrok   Oct-17-09 12:10 PM   #212 
                                       SNAP!! You made fun of my username!! How original AND on-point!  PeaceNikki   Oct-17-09 12:11 PM   #213 
                                       Sorry about the attack  kanrok   Oct-17-09 12:14 PM   #217 
                                       You apologize and then go onto call me a fool?  PeaceNikki   Oct-17-09 12:15 PM   #220 
                                       Do you feel like a fool?  kanrok   Oct-17-09 06:17 PM   #252 
                                       6 yrs. 4000 posts. Why so many on this topic?  uppityperson   Oct-17-09 06:20 PM   #253 
                                       Good question.  kanrok   Oct-17-09 06:54 PM   #257 
                                       Then how do you live with yourself?  GirlinContempt   Oct-17-09 12:46 PM   #227 
                                       The "point" is to judge. To relieve their general "Catholic guilt" by looking down their nose at  PeaceNikki   Oct-17-09 12:49 PM   #228 
                                       Oh, I meant no point  GirlinContempt   Oct-17-09 02:15 PM   #238 
                                       Genesis 3:16 says:  PeaceNikki   Oct-17-09 02:20 PM   #239 
                                       Contempt is a great description of you.  kanrok   Oct-18-09 12:17 AM   #273 
                                       Wah wah you're like a giant baby  GirlinContempt   Oct-18-09 03:45 AM   #293 
                                       Only if you feel judged.  kanrok   Oct-18-09 12:13 AM   #269 
                                       Nope. Not even a little "guilt". I'm not and never was Catholic.  PeaceNikki   Oct-18-09 09:35 AM   #298 
                                       Oh my GOD  GirlinContempt   Oct-18-09 01:59 PM   #306 
                                       More on DFLA  PeaceNikki   Oct-18-09 02:02 PM   #307 
                                       How do you manage to live with yourself?  varelse   Oct-17-09 07:45 PM   #260 
                                 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:  PeaceNikki   Oct-16-09 08:08 PM   #186 
                                    Thank you.  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 10:50 PM   #190 
                              how many sperm died the last time you jacked off? don't they count? n/t  Scout   Oct-16-09 03:46 PM   #168 
                                 Being rude and stupid  kanrok   Oct-16-09 04:39 PM   #169 
                                    being a self-important asshole is no way to go through life either.  Scout   Oct-16-09 05:32 PM   #176 
                                       It's physically impossible.  kanrok   Oct-16-09 07:44 PM   #180 
                                          at least you can admit you're wrong about things that don't matter.  Scout   Oct-16-09 10:58 PM   #191 
                     you don't even HAVE an argument other than "i think abortion is icky"  Scout   Oct-16-09 03:33 PM   #162 
                        Clearly that is a stronger argument than  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 03:40 PM   #165 
                  and if those 6 million Jews had been in some woman's uterus, it would be no one's business  Scout   Oct-16-09 03:30 PM   #160 
                     This is the most fucked up use of the Holocaust  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 03:32 PM   #161 
                        yeah, the fetus-fetishists seem to think that the holocaust and abortion  Scout   Oct-16-09 03:35 PM   #163 
                           And cancer, apparently!  GirlinContempt   Oct-18-09 03:48 AM   #294 
      Decreased.  DireStrike   Oct-17-09 12:23 PM   #224 
      Yeah.  kanrok   Oct-18-09 12:14 AM   #270 
         used to only be 3 million people on Earth also. Fail.  uppityperson   Oct-18-09 02:31 AM   #290 
      Something like 99% of abortions are performed when there is no way...  Odin2005   Oct-17-09 12:56 PM   #229 
      Ahhh...Sentience,  kanrok   Oct-18-09 12:14 AM   #271 
         Belief in "souls", the last bastion of the deluded.  Odin2005   Oct-18-09 12:25 AM   #276 
            Zzzzzzzzzzzz.  kanrok   Oct-18-09 12:28 AM   #278 
      If abortion was illegal, that number would double--and you'd add  Arkana   Oct-17-09 05:01 PM   #245 
         Where did I say that we should make abortions illegal?  kanrok   Oct-18-09 12:16 AM   #272 
            You said that we're killing children, surely you don't think that should be legal?  beam me up scottie   Oct-18-09 02:41 AM   #292 
               standing O here ^^^ too! n/t  Scout   Oct-18-09 01:33 PM   #305 
   "Pick-And-Choose Life." n/t  Orsino   Oct-14-09 11:50 PM   #8 
   Kick - that is what the pro-life people consider pro-life  debbierlus   Oct-15-09 02:05 AM   #14 
   Further evidence that anti-choice is anti-woman  Zomby Woof   Oct-15-09 06:36 PM   #39 
   It's rooted in misogyny. But many honestly believe that an embryo has a soul.  armyowalgreens   Oct-15-09 06:38 PM   #41 
      So what? Most racists won't admit to being a racist either  MajorChode   Oct-16-09 04:22 AM   #130 
      They have been conditioned by misogynistic organizations to  tekisui   Oct-16-09 09:13 AM   #135 
      Believing an embryo has a soul falls under "religious zealotry"  Zomby Woof   Oct-17-09 01:37 AM   #198 
   Keep abortion safe and legal. Make it safe and legal where it isn't. Save lives. eom  uppityperson   Oct-15-09 11:08 PM   #70 
   Wow. Only 16 recommendations for this thread. That is sad and pathetic  debbierlus   Oct-16-09 12:22 AM   #94 
   I missed it earlier so am kicking since can't rec now  uppityperson   Oct-16-09 12:30 AM   #96 
      I'll kick, too. our little fr troll was even more amusing after I left yesterday.  niyad   Oct-16-09 11:27 AM   #137 
         There are several in this thread  Zomby Woof   Oct-17-09 01:08 PM   #234 
         Awww...how cute  kanrok   Oct-18-09 12:18 AM   #274 
   This is why ALL anti-choice laws should be repealed  PeaceNikki   Oct-16-09 07:51 PM   #183 
      Yay for my home and native land  GirlinContempt   Oct-16-09 10:41 PM   #188 
 

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