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niyad

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Thu Oct-15-09 01:42 AM
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13. you have to think about the huge industries this kind of image supports--the diet industry, for one

Edited on Thu Oct-15-09 01:42 AM by niyad

the cosmetics industry, and the whole mental health field, in addition to fashion. let's see--a size 10 is considered a "plus" size. seriously screwed up here. marilyn monroe wore a 14.

and think about this--keeping women's attention focused on the never-to-be-achieved "perfection" of the models keeps them too broke,too insecure, and too busy, to notice their general second-class status in society.

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How are the anorexic images of the fashion industry affecting	pnwmom	Oct-14-09 07:59 PM	#0
Most Men like Women with a more Robust figure....or maybe I'm just speaking..	BlueJazz	Oct-14-09 08:26 PM	#1
Twiggy and Audrey Hepburn	MineralMan	Oct-14-09 08:46 PM	#3
apart from audrey's training as a ballerina, you do know why she was so thin?	niyad	Oct-15-09 01:36 AM	#12
Interesting. I didn't know this. n/t	pnwmom	Oct-15-09 01:55 AM	#16
Hepburn almost starved to death in WWII	WolverineDG	Oct-15-09 05:37 PM	#70
British teens -- males and females -- in the 60's were thin because of malnutrition	Norrin Radd	Oct-15-09 06:10 PM	#74
in Second Life, one giveaway that a female avatar was created & is played by a RL guy	eShirl	Oct-14-09 11:30 PM	#10
Which reminds me. I heard of some research where they showed	pnwmom	Oct-15-09 01:59 AM	#19
Short and curvy for the win!	krispos42	Oct-15-09 06:39 AM	#29
It's not really a new thing.	MineralMan	Oct-14-09 08:43 PM	#2
I remember Twiggy very well, and that was part of my point.	pnwmom	Oct-14-09 10:04 PM	#5
The way I remember it is that she wore the swimming suit called the mono suit	lunatica	Oct-14-09 10:54 PM	#7
I blame Barbie directly, and I'm only half-joking.	Occulus	Oct-14-09 10:48 PM	#6
That distorted Ralph Loren image looked a lot like a Barbie.	pnwmom	Oct-15-09 01:52 AM	#14
Funny how that works, isn't it? n/t	Occulus	Oct-15-09 04:09 AM	#26
It has been around a long time. I read that 60% of the 4rth grade girls	EFerrari	Oct-15-09 01:58 AM	#18
In 1984??? If it was that high in 1984, imagine what it is now. Yikes! nt	pnwmom	Oct-15-09 02:00 AM	#20
Here's a comparison of some models from the 60s and today.	MineralMan	Oct-14-09 08:51 PM	#4
None of the women in your "today" shots are models	Number23	Oct-14-09 11:09 PM	#9
I always loved what Kevyn Aucoin said about Kate Moss..	girl gone mad	Oct-15-09 02:14 AM	#22
I agree with you that many women are naturally skinny. One of my	SeattleGirl	Oct-15-09 02:27 AM	#24
That "healthy" model wasn't healthy after all. She was a cocaine user.	pnwmom	Oct-15-09 06:14 AM	#28
Still threre actually are naturally thin people	JNelson6563	Oct-15-09 07:07 AM	#33
Most "naturally thin people" aren't so thin they look like anorexics or drug users.	pnwmom	Oct-15-09 04:10 PM	#40
I agree but some do not	JNelson6563	Oct-15-09 05:13 PM	#63
With 2/3rds of Americans being over weight, anyone who is of normal weight would look anorexic.	L0oniX	Oct-14-09 10:58 PM	#8
Fashion models aren't normal weight by any standard,	pnwmom	Oct-15-09 01:54 AM	#15
Lizzi Miller is considered "plus sized"	Missy Vixen	Oct-15-09 02:02 AM	#21
And that right there is a problem.	SeattleGirl	Oct-15-09 02:29 AM	#25
Marilyn Monroe was a size 12 ...	waiting for hope	Oct-16-09 08:26 PM	#86
It has shown me how my tastes differ from the so-called fashion industry:	Swamp Rat	Oct-14-09 11:41 PM	#11
What are you doing tomorrow night?	XemaSab	Oct-16-09 08:15 PM	#82
you have to think about the huge industries this kind of image supports--the diet industry, for one	niyad	Oct-15-09 01:42 AM	#13
Again, I'd love to recommend a single post	Missy Vixen	Oct-15-09 01:57 AM	#17
Marilyn Monroe did not wear a size 14. She was tiny.	Gwendolyn	Oct-15-09 06:46 AM	#31
modern size 8-10 according to a quote on the Snopes page	eShirl	Oct-15-09 07:27 AM	#36
Exactly.	Gwendolyn	Oct-15-09 08:17 AM	#39
I can believe it was a 14, because she was NOT wearing modern dresses.	pnwmom	Oct-15-09 04:15 PM	#41
I was speaking in terms of today's sizes. Actually, she was probably more likely a 6.	Gwendolyn	Oct-15-09 04:39 PM	#53
Marilyn's size varied over the years -- but, whatever size she wore, she was always CURVY.	pnwmom	Oct-15-09 05:03 PM	#58
But you're comparing models with actresses.	Gwendolyn	Oct-15-09 05:13 PM	#64
In the nekkid pic, she's got BIG thighs	XemaSab	Oct-16-09 08:18 PM	#83
No they weren't Xema. :-)	Gwendolyn	Oct-16-09 08:23 PM	#84
BIG= bigger than I've ever seen on any model	XemaSab	Oct-16-09 08:30 PM	#87
But she wasn't a runway model. She was an actress. There are lots of voluptuous actresses out there.	Gwendolyn	Oct-16-09 08:41 PM	#88
She looks bigger than that size 12 model upthread:	redqueen	Oct-15-09 04:31 PM	#51
Her size varied over the years, but she was always lovely. n/t	pnwmom	Oct-15-09 05:04 PM	#60
Definitely.	redqueen	Oct-15-09 05:33 PM	#66
It's not about "only tiny women are beautiful" at all. It's about the disconnect...	Gwendolyn	Oct-16-09 07:45 PM	#77
+10000 ... don't forget the gym and personal trainer industries n/t	Scout	Oct-15-09 06:01 PM	#73
I keep saying that Marilyn Monroe was a size fourteen	truedelphi	Oct-20-09 04:33 PM	#89
A 5'5" inch tall woman would have to weigh about 180 to fit into a 14 dress.	Gwendolyn	Oct-20-09 04:42 PM	#90
This is odd	omega minimo	Oct-15-09 02:18 AM	#23
Just look at online diary sites like OpenDiary, Xanga, LiveJournal, etc.	Roland99	Oct-15-09 04:13 AM	#27
Its BEEN happening,	elleng	Oct-15-09 06:45 AM	#30
I think the world of high fashion is inhabited by people with serious issues.	Skidmore	Oct-15-09 06:51 AM	#32
Consider porn/nudie models, for instance	Mopar151	Oct-15-09 07:14 AM	#34
Perhaps it will help reduce obesity	Freddie Stubbs	Oct-15-09 07:20 AM	#35
I think it does the opposite. Bulimics are often overweight. n/t	pnwmom	Oct-15-09 04:18 PM	#43
They're obviously not doing it right	Freddie Stubbs	Oct-15-09 04:21 PM	#44
There is no "right" way to be a bulimic. It is an extremely dangerous practice. n/t	pnwmom	Oct-15-09 04:23 PM	#47
LOL n/t	BOG PERSON	Oct-16-09 07:47 PM	#78
wasnt 38 24 38 suppose to be the ideal. i heard it all the time growing up. dont	seabeyond	Oct-15-09 07:34 AM	#37
I remember 36- 24- 36 (from somewhere)	eShirl	Oct-15-09 04:17 PM	#42
Just ring 362436, I lead a life of crime!	Lilith Velkor	Oct-15-09 04:40 PM	#54
Sir Mix A Lot too: "36 24 36? Only if she's 5 foot 3." (nt)	redqueen	Oct-15-09 04:43 PM	#55
"Brick House" by the Commodors	Arugula Latte	Oct-15-09 05:35 PM	#68
Yes... and gah...	redqueen	Oct-15-09 05:38 PM	#71
lol lol.... oh that. lol. nt	seabeyond	Oct-15-09 05:11 PM	#62
Weight has always been an issue for me	a la izquierda	Oct-15-09 07:53 AM	#38
I'm glad your husband was so helpful to you in this. It sounds like you were	pnwmom	Oct-15-09 04:21 PM	#45
I married a great guy.	a la izquierda	Oct-15-09 05:03 PM	#59
Sounds like a good approach	Ocracoker16	Oct-15-09 05:22 PM	#65
Do you think having high self esteem is a helpful thing?	AngryAmish	Oct-15-09 04:23 PM	#46
I was talking about healthy self-esteem, not the kind of false and/or	pnwmom	Oct-15-09 04:25 PM	#48
HOw can you measure one from the other?	AngryAmish	Oct-15-09 04:27 PM	#49
How can you tell apart shades of gray? It is a judgment call. And we need to	pnwmom	Oct-15-09 04:29 PM	#50
It is not a judgment call - it is a measurable thing psychometrically	AngryAmish	Oct-15-09 04:46 PM	#56
I am not in favor of falsely inflating self esteem	pnwmom	Oct-15-09 04:59 PM	#57
Self-respect is a very good term.	AngryAmish	Oct-15-09 06:22 PM	#75
According to many reports, there is a high amount of drug abuse	pnwmom	Oct-15-09 06:46 PM	#76
Women have to stop obsessing over their looks.	redqueen	Oct-15-09 04:32 PM	#52
Yes -- I agree.	pnwmom	Oct-15-09 05:07 PM	#61
and just watch the screaming hysteria when a celeb finally says "f*** you" to this mess--do you	niyad	Oct-15-09 05:33 PM	#67
Well Tyra did it and she got a TV show.	redqueen	Oct-15-09 05:36 PM	#69
Some actresses have already started. Models too.	Gwendolyn	Oct-15-09 05:44 PM	#72
At least 66% of the US is overweight.	BOG PERSON	Oct-16-09 07:49 PM	#79
I remember reading something about designers like their models	Shell Beau	Oct-16-09 08:03 PM	#80
I have a model friend who was teased for being too skinny and no curves when she was growing up	EndersDame	Oct-16-09 08:14 PM	#81
It's not good.	Zoeisright	Oct-16-09 08:25 PM	#85

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