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| 33. We had no business being there -- we should get out -- |
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Some day, perhaps, we will be called to make amends -- sounds reasonable to me!!!
Don't know how much we've destroyed there -- Iraq is clearer . . . especially with
1.5 Muslims dead there!!!
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| -Do You Support Nation Building in Afghanistan? |
tekisui |
Oct-13-09 08:49 PM |
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No, of course not. But I sure wish we could help those people who want it. nt |
gateley |
Oct-13-09 08:51 PM |
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Do we support President Obama and his plans for Afghanistan is a better question. |
timeforpeace |
Oct-14-09 12:36 AM |
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bbc has been told there will be an increase of US troops there. but... |
demoleft |
Oct-14-09 07:10 PM |
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Is it even possible? |
GreenStormCloud |
Oct-13-09 08:54 PM |
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Its is a goal beyond our ability to achieve.. |
whoneedstickets |
Oct-13-09 10:08 PM |
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My initial thought is yes. |
Cant trust em |
Oct-13-09 08:55 PM |
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Part of the problem is the provinces don't recognize the central |
tekisui |
Oct-13-09 08:59 PM |
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I think it has to come from the UN not NATO |
Johonny |
Oct-13-09 09:32 PM |
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The problem I see is that Afghanistan isn't really part of the "Middle East". |
LooseWilly |
Oct-15-09 02:27 AM |
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They seem to LIKE living in the 12th century over there. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-13-09 08:58 PM |
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Oct-13-09 09:05 PM |
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Can you show me the poll that shows Afghanis want us there? |
tekisui |
Oct-13-09 09:15 PM |
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as soon as his father, Bruce Reed of the DLC makes up a poll, he'll show it to you |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-13-09 09:23 PM |
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oh that's so cute |
northzax |
Oct-13-09 09:35 PM |
#26 |
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a poll? |
northzax |
Oct-13-09 09:31 PM |
#22 |
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only one I could find was feb. |
subcomhd |
Oct-13-09 11:35 PM |
#46 |
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Who are you calling a "fucking racist asshole"? |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-13-09 09:21 PM |
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Oct-13-09 09:30 PM |
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"31st century"? Are you from the future or something? |
Harry Monroe |
Oct-13-09 09:22 PM |
#15 |
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you know, given that you have an avatar |
northzax |
Oct-13-09 10:08 PM |
#32 |
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You see no difference in rebuilding an American city |
tekisui |
Oct-13-09 10:21 PM |
#39 |
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I Guess I'm Not Convinced... |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 04:31 PM |
#77 |
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??????? |
Harry Monroe |
Oct-14-09 02:19 PM |
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Can you please point out the people who enjoy living impoverished and uneducated? n/t |
cynatnite |
Oct-14-09 08:48 PM |
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You can't "build a nation" among a people that are collectively living in the 13th century |
scheming daemons |
Oct-13-09 08:59 PM |
#5 |
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It's My Understanding... |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 04:35 PM |
#78 |
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how can you not? |
northzax |
Oct-13-09 08:59 PM |
#6 |
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Do you honestly believe that a few trillion dollars and |
tekisui |
Oct-13-09 09:01 PM |
#8 |
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No it can't! Get them the hell out now! |
obliviously |
Oct-13-09 09:06 PM |
#10 |
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Just Curious |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 04:37 PM |
#81 |
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American soldiers not being killed! |
obliviously |
Oct-14-09 11:08 PM |
#156 |
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That's one. Anything else? |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 11:14 PM |
#158 |
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After 8 years that is the only one that concerns me right now! |
obliviously |
Oct-15-09 01:43 AM |
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No Offense, But That's a Little Shortsighted of You |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-15-09 02:15 AM |
#161 |
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How many years is enough 12..20...50? |
obliviously |
Oct-15-09 06:55 PM |
#166 |
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Is That Really the Best Way to Measure This War |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-15-09 07:06 PM |
#168 |
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So you are saying it hasn't been on hold the last 8 months? |
obliviously |
Oct-15-09 08:08 PM |
#170 |
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I Would Say It Has... |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-15-09 08:22 PM |
#171 |
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The general wants far more troops. my opinion is |
obliviously |
Oct-15-09 08:30 PM |
#172 |
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I Can Agree With You On That. |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-15-09 08:35 PM |
#174 |
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I had a feeling in the long run we were pretty much on the same page! |
obliviously |
Oct-15-09 08:37 PM |
#175 |
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yup |
northzax |
Oct-13-09 09:27 PM |
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Chad, that's just idiotic. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-13-09 09:36 PM |
#27 |
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well since most slaves never SAW Africa |
northzax |
Oct-13-09 09:59 PM |
#29 |
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You have a vivid imagination Chad. Does your father know about the mushrooms? |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-13-09 10:14 PM |
#36 |
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I don't need to accuse you of anything |
northzax |
Oct-13-09 10:30 PM |
#40 |
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How much UNOCAL stock does your daddy have? |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-13-09 10:47 PM |
#41 |
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you're still talking about the DLC? |
northzax |
Oct-14-09 09:56 AM |
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northzax |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 04:45 PM |
#84 |
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Whoa Whoa Whoa |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 04:43 PM |
#83 |
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!?!?!? |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 04:39 PM |
#82 |
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If that is your standard, so you support invading and occupying |
tekisui |
Oct-13-09 09:53 PM |
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um, have we invaded any of those lately? |
northzax |
Oct-13-09 10:02 PM |
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We are making it worse with each day, each bomb and each |
tekisui |
Oct-13-09 10:12 PM |
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we are? |
northzax |
Oct-14-09 10:06 AM |
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Are We? |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 04:54 PM |
#86 |
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China. |
BuyingThyme |
Oct-13-09 10:14 PM |
#37 |
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Cowboy up! |
tekisui |
Oct-13-09 10:18 PM |
#38 |
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That's a Mischaracterization on Your Part |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 04:55 PM |
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Generally? No. |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 04:50 PM |
#85 |
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if you think they want us bombing the crap out of them you are |
jonnyblitz |
Oct-13-09 10:53 PM |
#42 |
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you're right |
northzax |
Oct-14-09 10:18 AM |
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Do you understand that not all those labeled 'Taliban' |
tekisui |
Oct-14-09 10:36 AM |
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ok, first off, there are no moderate 'Taliban" |
northzax |
Oct-14-09 10:58 AM |
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Check out this statement from yesterday: |
tekisui |
Oct-14-09 11:01 AM |
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a threat per se? not really. |
northzax |
Oct-14-09 04:19 PM |
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Frankly |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 05:02 PM |
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I Think You Need to Look Up the Definition of "Racist" |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 05:00 PM |
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Obviously No One Wants Bombs Dropped on Them |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 04:57 PM |
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Depends on How They're Utilized. |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 04:36 PM |
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The problem is the locals are shooting at us now. They want foreign troops off their land. |
Selatius |
Oct-13-09 10:57 PM |
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Sigh |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 05:05 PM |
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As has been pointed out up thread, they obviously LIKED it that way |
anonymous171 |
Oct-14-09 09:58 PM |
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No One "Likes" Living in a War Zone |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 10:09 PM |
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GET OUT NOW.... !!! RUN, RUN FAST..!! |
sam sarrha |
Oct-13-09 09:13 PM |
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I chose no ... |
gleaner |
Oct-13-09 09:19 PM |
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I Guess I Don't Consider Things Like... |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 05:08 PM |
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Helping another country by ... |
gleaner |
Oct-14-09 07:35 PM |
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Okie Dokie |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 07:49 PM |
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The Return ..... |
gleaner |
Oct-15-09 08:02 PM |
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Alright Then |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-15-09 08:33 PM |
#173 |
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You Read! |
gleaner |
Oct-16-09 05:08 AM |
#176 |
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I know it is not popular, but |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-13-09 09:30 PM |
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No (nt) |
bigwillq |
Oct-13-09 09:31 PM |
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No, |
Libertas1776 |
Oct-13-09 09:31 PM |
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Yes and no. Basically I fear it's just hopeless. |
Maru Kitteh |
Oct-13-09 09:33 PM |
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It sounds like a great idea to me. |
blondeatlast |
Oct-14-09 07:47 AM |
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Great Until |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 05:09 PM |
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If we are able to behave as a recurrent infection w/our military, we cand do the same with |
Maru Kitteh |
Oct-15-09 02:18 AM |
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No knr nt |
slipslidingaway |
Oct-13-09 09:34 PM |
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We had no business being there -- we should get out -- |
defendandprotect |
Oct-13-09 10:09 PM |
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No. I don't support nation building anywhere. |
Mudoria |
Oct-13-09 10:11 PM |
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It would be pretty sweet if we got back in to building up OUR nation. |
harun |
Oct-14-09 10:10 AM |
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No |
TexasObserver |
Oct-13-09 11:12 PM |
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Fuckity-fuck NO. |
BeHereNow |
Oct-13-09 11:14 PM |
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If anyone thinks we are there to do nation-building, they need to read a lot more history |
yurbud |
Oct-14-09 03:55 AM |
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Not possible to make central Asian tribal people into Americans at gunpoint |
eridani |
Oct-14-09 05:54 AM |
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Who's Trying to Make Them "Americans"? |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 05:11 PM |
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If they'd become Americans, they'd stop minding the American military in their country n/t |
eridani |
Oct-15-09 08:23 AM |
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Hell No!!! Nobody has a right to go into somebody else's house and tell them how to live |
Xicano |
Oct-14-09 06:07 AM |
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of course you do |
northzax |
Oct-14-09 10:22 AM |
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You over-simplify your war metaphors. |
tekisui |
Oct-14-09 10:39 AM |
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except now we are there |
northzax |
Oct-14-09 04:23 PM |
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Enlist, bud. |
tekisui |
Oct-14-09 05:12 PM |
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Getting Personal, Are We? |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 05:13 PM |
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Who are you? |
tekisui |
Oct-14-09 05:14 PM |
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And Again |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 05:16 PM |
#103 |
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It's boring. |
tekisui |
Oct-14-09 05:19 PM |
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That's a Distortion and You Know It |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 05:20 PM |
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Not interested. |
tekisui |
Oct-14-09 05:21 PM |
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???? |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 05:24 PM |
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We need to focus on nation building alright |
donheld |
Oct-14-09 10:21 AM |
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How Do You Build A Nation That Was Artificial To Start With... |
KharmaTrain |
Oct-14-09 10:45 AM |
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Exactly. |
tekisui |
Oct-14-09 10:51 AM |
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Many Nations We Once Loosely Knit Territories |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 05:14 PM |
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Ask Bismarck |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 05:12 PM |
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Anyone here ever talked to someone that's served/serving in Afghanistan? |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Oct-14-09 10:54 AM |
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My brother-in-law served there |
tekisui |
Oct-14-09 10:59 AM |
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I've heard similar accounts. |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Oct-14-09 11:50 AM |
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What I Would Ask You is This... |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 05:15 PM |
#102 |
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Yeah, what's your point? |
tekisui |
Oct-14-09 05:27 PM |
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In Terms of... |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 05:32 PM |
#112 |
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You are mistaking the correlation with causation. |
tekisui |
Oct-14-09 05:36 PM |
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Strongly Disagree |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 05:42 PM |
#116 |
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Other- It's up to US/NATO to help the *Afghanis* build their country. |
baldguy |
Oct-14-09 11:01 AM |
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What if they are not interested in that project? |
tekisui |
Oct-14-09 11:02 AM |
#67 |
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What Project? |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 05:17 PM |
#104 |
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Fuck no. We have thousands of people in line waiting for charity health care in Los Angeles, |
closeupready |
Oct-14-09 11:08 AM |
#68 |
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No, and whoever does should drop everything they are doing and enlist in the military. |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-14-09 02:30 PM |
#71 |
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are you equally opposed to using the military |
northzax |
Oct-14-09 04:21 PM |
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Red Herring... Just get your ass on the next flight to Afghanistan. |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-14-09 04:27 PM |
#76 |
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By This Same Logic |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 05:23 PM |
#108 |
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HA! Logic? Don't tell me about fucking cement mixers. |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-14-09 07:05 PM |
#118 |
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Really Now |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 07:37 PM |
#121 |
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A bit unlikely? |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-14-09 08:32 PM |
#129 |
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A Dose of Reality |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 08:45 PM |
#131 |
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So you are the arbiter of reality? Nope. I don't think so. |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-14-09 09:16 PM |
#137 |
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Well, Someone's Gotta Be |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 09:33 PM |
#140 |
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By the way, welcome to DU, and here is your free lesson for the day: |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-14-09 10:09 PM |
#151 |
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Thanks and All. However. |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 10:30 PM |
#153 |
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The idea of using the military for anything but destroying shit is ridiculous. |
L0oniX |
Oct-14-09 10:12 PM |
#152 |
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Disagree |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 10:32 PM |
#154 |
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Even gangsters guard their own neighborhood. |
L0oniX |
Oct-14-09 10:36 PM |
#155 |
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+9999999999999999 |
L0oniX |
Oct-14-09 10:00 PM |
#147 |
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they need to build a mcdonalds there |
datasuspect |
Oct-14-09 04:20 PM |
#73 |
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Yes, and that's why foreign troops should be withdrawn. |
JackRiddler |
Oct-14-09 04:36 PM |
#79 |
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Interesting answer, JR. |
tekisui |
Oct-14-09 09:08 PM |
#134 |
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Just Out of Curiousity |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 09:12 PM |
#135 |
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Why do you say that "they don't want us there anymore?" |
Vattel |
Oct-14-09 09:44 PM |
#143 |
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Pathetic that some here voted yes. I guess you have an investment in opium. |
L0oniX |
Oct-14-09 05:02 PM |
#90 |
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Nice strawman. |
ceile |
Oct-14-09 05:32 PM |
#113 |
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The Graveyard Of Empires |
walldude |
Oct-14-09 05:11 PM |
#96 |
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It's either done now or we're back there again in 25 years. |
ceile |
Oct-14-09 05:31 PM |
#111 |
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awwww c'mon |
timo |
Oct-14-09 05:35 PM |
#114 |
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I cannot believe some (most) of the responses on this thread. |
ceile |
Oct-14-09 05:59 PM |
#117 |
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The Greeks, Romans, Brits, and Russians had a helluva good time building Afghanistan. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Oct-14-09 07:43 PM |
#122 |
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Sure. |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 07:49 PM |
#124 |
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Here's one. They all got they're asses kicked out of a country they tried to take over. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Oct-14-09 07:54 PM |
#125 |
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Specifics? |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 08:07 PM |
#126 |
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A very differnt war. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Oct-14-09 08:18 PM |
#127 |
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Thanks, but... |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 08:35 PM |
#130 |
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Alright, big shot. |
tekisui |
Oct-14-09 08:27 PM |
#128 |
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I Thought You Were Ignoring Me? |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 09:06 PM |
#133 |
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Really, before you and I can address your points, or mine |
tekisui |
Oct-14-09 09:12 PM |
#136 |
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Fair Enough, Now... |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 09:17 PM |
#138 |
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We declare it over. |
tekisui |
Oct-14-09 09:34 PM |
#141 |
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Some Agreement. |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 09:46 PM |
#144 |
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The PR victory that al-Qaeda and the Taliban |
tekisui |
Oct-14-09 09:57 PM |
#145 |
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Also Some Agreement |
YouTakeTheSkyway |
Oct-14-09 10:07 PM |
#148 |
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Hell no. It is too hard to build a nation into what we want it to be. |
Jennicut |
Oct-14-09 09:23 PM |
#139 |
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Afghanistan is a borderline failed state comrpised of many different nations. |
anonymous171 |
Oct-14-09 09:40 PM |
#142 |
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Afghanistan was never a state in the modern sense. It's the tribal homeland |
Monk06 |
Oct-14-09 10:09 PM |
#149 |
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The people who run our government should be smart enough to know and understand this. |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-15-09 03:02 PM |
#165 |
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Hell to the NO. nt |
earth mom |
Oct-14-09 11:09 PM |
#157 |
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The only application for US nation building I'm currently accepting is here in the US |
TheKentuckian |
Oct-15-09 12:02 AM |
#159 |
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cut and run! cut and run! |
mdmc |
Oct-15-09 07:00 PM |
#167 |
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the peaceful choice,,, 7 more years of war and death ,nt |
excess_3 |
Oct-16-09 06:02 AM |
#177 |
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