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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 01:21 AM
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104. +2,000,000
It's called critical support and it's just as valid as the uncritical kind.
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  -Sorry, but I think hardly any of the Obama criticism on DU resembles what the right-wing does. daedalus_dude  Oct-10-09 12:12 PM   #0 
  - Ballsy, to the point,  clear eye   Oct-10-09 12:15 PM   #1 
  - The criticism of Obama on DU seems to be largely along the lines that he has  kestrel91316   Oct-10-09 12:15 PM   #2 
  - "just making a fuss for the hell of it"  clear eye   Oct-10-09 12:20 PM   #6 
  - +1  bvar22   Oct-10-09 12:59 PM   #33 
  - yeppers.  nashville_brook   Oct-10-09 10:59 PM   #85 
  - Thanks for posting this. You can support Obama and still be critical of him  bjobotts   Oct-10-09 11:23 PM   #94 
     - btw...Lieberman with WH support got a Patriot Act reauthorization to a vote quietly  bjobotts   Oct-10-09 11:24 PM   #95 
     - Making FOIA impossible covering the Bush yrs and torture.Photos will never be shown now  bjobotts   Oct-10-09 11:25 PM   #96 
        - Despite 2 courts calling for their release to show torture was systematic under Bush.  bjobotts   Oct-10-09 11:27 PM   #97 
           - We were promised "transparency" but behind WH closed doors a different agenda  bjobotts   Oct-10-09 11:28 PM   #98 
     - +2,000,000  Ken Burch   Oct-11-09 01:21 AM   #104 
  - The DUers who complain about Obama are arguing the OPPOSITE of what the RW argues  niceypoo   Oct-10-09 12:34 PM   #16 
  - Sometimes you get some overlap when you get caught up with a Ron Paulite. n/t  emulatorloo   Oct-10-09 01:59 PM   #40 
  - yeah, set up a straw man  placton   Oct-10-09 05:37 PM   #61 
  - Sounds like you don't think there is any valid criticism to make  cui bono   Oct-11-09 05:38 AM   #113 
     - +1  SammyWinstonJack   Oct-11-09 10:58 AM   #135 
  - k'd and r'd  ixion   Oct-10-09 12:16 PM   #3 
  - K & R n/t  FSogol   Oct-10-09 12:16 PM   #4 
  - Thank you.  Starry Messenger   Oct-10-09 12:18 PM   #5 
  - You forgot: Obama is just like Bush, Obama is worse than Bush and  ProSense   Oct-10-09 12:21 PM   #7 
  - No DUers saying O is a socialist.communist, fascist for Black Power either  bjobotts   Oct-10-09 11:31 PM   #99 
     - DUers who don't want to read other supported opinions don't read Glenn Greenwald @ salon .com  bjobotts   Oct-10-09 11:34 PM   #100 
     - If I don't already think it, I don't want to hear it= the pig people  bjobotts   Oct-10-09 11:35 PM   #101 
     - I WISH he was a democratic socialist! They have the policies that can solve many of our problems.nt  grahamhgreen   Oct-11-09 07:01 AM   #122 
  - The cheer leaders cannot take any critism  AllentownJake   Oct-10-09 12:22 PM   #8 
  - There is criticism and then there is whining  ProSense   Oct-10-09 12:26 PM   #9 
  - You are what I call an uber cheer leader  AllentownJake   Oct-10-09 12:34 PM   #15 
  - Uber bullshit buster.  ProSense   Oct-10-09 12:36 PM   #18 
  - I like him  AllentownJake   Oct-10-09 12:38 PM   #20 
     - +2  sendero   Oct-10-09 02:34 PM   #44 
     - "His economic team can suck my balls."  Jackpine Radical   Oct-10-09 02:57 PM   #49 
        - LOL  AllentownJake   Oct-10-09 03:11 PM   #50 
  - +1  cherokeeprogressive   Oct-10-09 02:30 PM   #43 
  - And YOU are the self-appointed judge ?  bvar22   Oct-10-09 01:07 PM   #35 
  - It falls in the criticism category. But since you are the head apologist for Obama  cui bono   Oct-11-09 05:46 AM   #114 
  - Plus 1,000. "Your schoolgirlish defense" kinda sums it up. K&R.  chimpymustgo   Oct-11-09 10:15 AM   #127 
  - You're good!  pecwae   Oct-11-09 11:40 AM   #145 
  - Some of us look at it from a different perspective  SandWalker1984   Oct-11-09 11:21 AM   #139 
  - I'm fine with the criticism. And I'm fine with criticizing right back. Dissent is patriotic.  BlooInBloo   Oct-10-09 12:43 PM   #24 
  - You are not one of the people I was talking about  AllentownJake   Oct-10-09 12:51 PM   #29 
  - Irony, from the comment you responded to:  ProSense   Oct-10-09 12:52 PM   #30 
     - Yah. I was pretty confident that I would be counted as a "cheer leader"...  BlooInBloo   Oct-10-09 12:59 PM   #32 
  - "Them"? If you have that kind of attitude toward fellow DUers,  CakeGrrl   Oct-10-09 04:43 PM   #59 
  - When I get accusations  AllentownJake   Oct-10-09 07:01 PM   #68 
  - For every cheerleader there are at least one or two who can never say ANYTHING positive.  grace0418   Oct-10-09 11:05 PM   #90 
  - To some, any criticism of the administration is taken personally  depakid   Oct-10-09 12:28 PM   #10 
  - I love this part  ProSense   Oct-10-09 12:32 PM   #14 
  - No. I entirely think that the supporters of the other candidates would have behaved the same way.  daedalus_dude   Oct-10-09 12:39 PM   #21 
  - That's a broad brush you have there. n/t  ProSense   Oct-10-09 12:40 PM   #22 
  - Try not to make attributions  depakid   Oct-11-09 12:12 AM   #103 
  - If you are gay and the first gay President is elected, would you not be proud?  dolphindance   Oct-10-09 06:11 PM   #65 
  - As a gay democrat I've already responded to this absurdity before.  ThomCat   Oct-10-09 07:20 PM   #69 
  - I guarantee you would act differently. You wouldn't totally abandon principles...  dolphindance   Oct-10-09 07:38 PM   #71 
     - Bullshit! How can you guaranted something that is total nonsense like that?  ThomCat   Oct-10-09 07:48 PM   #72 
     - It isn't nonsense and the poster didn't suggest in any way  OhioBlue   Oct-10-09 09:26 PM   #78 
        - He "Guaranteed" that I would feel and act differently.  ThomCat   Oct-10-09 09:29 PM   #79 
           - well, we all use words and phrases  OhioBlue   Oct-10-09 09:42 PM   #80 
              - Thank you very much  ThomCat   Oct-10-09 10:41 PM   #82 
     - If you're going to open the door to that kind of generalisation  Zix   Oct-11-09 07:10 AM   #124 
        - OK. I get you.  dolphindance   Oct-11-09 03:26 PM   #161 
  - right again!  MindandSoul   Oct-10-09 11:14 PM   #92 
  - I'm gay  melnjones   Oct-10-09 11:17 PM   #93 
  - "You can more easily knock him down because you don't realize how special he is."  cui bono   Oct-11-09 06:01 AM   #116 
  - I'm gay and I wouldn't at all!  Zix   Oct-11-09 06:58 AM   #121 
  - Okay, that's just scary.  chimpymustgo   Oct-11-09 10:18 AM   #128 
  - I completely agree with you  ruggerson   Oct-11-09 10:57 AM   #134 
  - There's a big difference between "any" or "some" criticism and constant negativity.  grace0418   Oct-10-09 11:01 PM   #87 
  - Knee jerk reactions are not the exclusive province of right wingers. n/t  retread   Oct-10-09 12:29 PM   #11 
  - Great post  ruggerson   Oct-10-09 12:29 PM   #12 
  - You should add to all the nots: "Doing it five minutes after taking office"  MrScorpio   Oct-10-09 12:32 PM   #13 
  - You're right about the substance  treestar   Oct-10-09 12:34 PM   #17 
  - " RWers will talk of the 'Messiah' or 'dear leader'" not just the RW. n/t  ProSense   Oct-10-09 12:37 PM   #19 
  - Ahem..  Fumesucker   Oct-10-09 12:47 PM   #27 
     - Ignoring author of thread  treestar   Oct-10-09 01:01 PM   #34 
     - No, he's someone who appears to be over the top *for* Obama..  Fumesucker   Oct-10-09 01:19 PM   #38 
        - PM who it was so I can unignore them  treestar   Oct-10-09 03:39 PM   #53 
           - It was OMC, he's OTT about everything, IMO.  Fumesucker   Oct-10-09 04:38 PM   #58 
              - I would say it's over the top  treestar   Oct-11-09 04:20 PM   #162 
     - I don't understand.  merh   Oct-10-09 08:08 PM   #74 
        - You can't see the over the top nature of that post?  Fumesucker   Oct-11-09 03:14 AM   #108 
           - Why does it scare you?  merh   Oct-11-09 04:30 AM   #110 
           - I think when people start worshiping politicians it can get ugly very quickly.  Fumesucker   Oct-11-09 04:46 AM   #111 
              - I went back and double checked.  merh   Oct-11-09 10:20 AM   #129 
                 - Like I said, if you don't see the over the top nature of the OP..  Fumesucker   Oct-11-09 10:28 AM   #130 
                    - You are the one that is to be pitied if you are only inspired by  merh   Oct-11-09 10:39 AM   #131 
                       - Where did I say that?  Fumesucker   Oct-11-09 10:42 AM   #132 
                          - Oh, so you are inspired by living people.  merh   Oct-11-09 10:54 AM   #133 
                             - Eh, take a look at OMC's latest thread saying Obma has caused more hope..  Fumesucker   Oct-11-09 11:10 AM   #137 
                                - No, that is an example of OMC going overboard  merh   Oct-11-09 11:24 AM   #140 
                                   - And it's still got positive recs..  Fumesucker   Oct-11-09 11:29 AM   #141 
                                      - And the ones that slam Obama and the echo your fears  merh   Oct-11-09 11:38 AM   #143 
                                         - I didn't much care for Clinton either..  Fumesucker   Oct-11-09 11:44 AM   #147 
                                            - Some folks see them as rational slams  merh   Oct-11-09 11:53 AM   #149 
                                               - There is an element of that with Kucinich..  Fumesucker   Oct-11-09 11:59 AM   #150 
                                                  - Really - I see it as more unnerving to be so enthralled by a man  merh   Oct-11-09 12:08 PM   #151 
                                                  - Why do you have to get so personal?  Fumesucker   Oct-11-09 12:27 PM   #152 
                                                  - Oh, you think that you are not getting too personal to say that  merh   Oct-11-09 01:18 PM   #153 
                                                  - People who think Obama is the most inspirational figure in human history do seem like cult members..  Fumesucker   Oct-11-09 01:53 PM   #154 
                                                  - Who are you inspired by?  merh   Oct-11-09 01:58 PM   #155 
                                                  - I didn't *have* to fear the views of those who loved bushie either..  Fumesucker   Oct-11-09 02:16 PM   #156 
                                                  - I don't believe saying one is inspired by another is the  merh   Oct-11-09 02:39 PM   #157 
                                                  - I'm uninspired..  Fumesucker   Oct-11-09 02:47 PM   #158 
                                                  - Oh good. You now dodge the questions by posting snark.  merh   Oct-11-09 02:52 PM   #160 
           - of course she does, but she's just as nutz as OMC  RetroLounge   Oct-11-09 11:29 AM   #142 
  - Very worthy post. n/t  Mojambo   Oct-10-09 12:42 PM   #23 
  - k&r  dana_b   Oct-10-09 12:45 PM   #25 
  - Yes, yes and yes.  asdjrocky   Oct-10-09 12:46 PM   #26 
  - knr also see - "I don't want a fucking pony." by Bjorn Against ...  slipslidingaway   Oct-10-09 12:50 PM   #28 
  - Everyone who used the "pony" insult, or "poutrage"  ThomCat   Oct-10-09 07:28 PM   #70 
  - No arguments from me and well said, there has definitely been...  slipslidingaway   Oct-10-09 09:04 PM   #75 
  - n/t  Djinn   Oct-10-09 11:00 PM   #86 
  - well said! /eom  bkozumplik   Oct-11-09 03:05 AM   #106 
  - Thank you!!! I could have posted this thread myself except that I am hated and reviled around here  earth mom   Oct-10-09 12:54 PM   #31 
  - So true. Maybe I should use the ignore list, I might come around more often.  cui bono   Oct-11-09 06:18 AM   #117 
  - Neither hated nor reviled by me.  SammyWinstonJack   Oct-11-09 11:10 AM   #136 
  - You're not alone.  pecwae   Oct-11-09 11:39 AM   #144 
  - Some people think all DU'ers are supposed to think alike and spout the same opinions  Mudoria   Oct-10-09 01:13 PM   #36 
  - Ahhh, you're wrong.  Beacool   Oct-10-09 02:28 PM   #42 
     - Nobel Prize: bad timing, wreaks of political coerciveness  truthrocks   Oct-10-09 04:16 PM   #55 
        - Yes, it does.  Beacool   Oct-10-09 06:47 PM   #67 
        - THANK YOU  Skittles   Oct-11-09 01:43 AM   #105 
        - That's one opinion  CakeGrrl   Oct-11-09 02:51 PM   #159 
  - K&R  bvar22   Oct-10-09 01:13 PM   #37 
  - K&R  mullard12ax7   Oct-10-09 01:30 PM   #39 
  - Excellent post!! K&R!! n/t  Kermitt Gribble   Oct-10-09 02:05 PM   #41 
  - have been thinking of doing an OP with a similar message--thank you for doing it  abq e streeter   Oct-10-09 02:41 PM   #45 
  - Bing!  Political Heretic   Oct-10-09 02:42 PM   #46 
  - there is a vast difference between bashing and constructive criticism  Tuesday Afternoon   Oct-10-09 02:49 PM   #47 
  - nothing wrong with bashing either  bkozumplik   Oct-11-09 03:06 AM   #107 
  - I believe you meant latter...  cui bono   Oct-11-09 06:21 AM   #118 
     - oops. I did.  Tuesday Afternoon   Oct-11-09 07:05 AM   #123 
  - another rec!  quinnox   Oct-10-09 02:49 PM   #48 
  - Recommend  TexasObserver   Oct-10-09 03:15 PM   #51 
  - Well said...  kentuck   Oct-10-09 03:18 PM   #52 
  - From my observations  billh58   Oct-10-09 03:48 PM   #54 
  - Indeed.  spoony   Oct-10-09 04:20 PM   #56 
  - "supposed liberals" is the key to your post. this board is NOT a liberal board.  cui bono   Oct-11-09 06:23 AM   #119 
  - knr!~  tekisui   Oct-10-09 04:20 PM   #57 
  - "should melt like a snail."  RetroLounge   Oct-10-09 04:44 PM   #60 
  - Thank you for a very insightful post & welcome to DU.  Vidar   Oct-10-09 05:49 PM   #62 
  - daedalus_dude, excellent, eloquent, exactly right, dood!!! Recommend.  bertman   Oct-10-09 05:53 PM   #63 
  - Like birtherism, for example.  BlooInBloo   Oct-10-09 05:58 PM   #64 
  - Nicely said. :D  Zix   Oct-10-09 06:33 PM   #66 
  - K&R  Orwellian_Ghost   Oct-10-09 07:56 PM   #73 
  - K&R !  AsahinaKimi   Oct-10-09 09:08 PM   #76 
  - K&R  hay rick   Oct-10-09 09:11 PM   #77 
  - Yes. Thank you very much.  proud2BlibKansan   Oct-10-09 09:55 PM   #81 
  - You're right! Who in their right mind would support such an award...  MeSelf   Oct-10-09 10:53 PM   #83 
  - It's not the content of the complaints, it's the ceaseless negativity of them.  grace0418   Oct-10-09 10:58 PM   #84 
  - it's all perspective  Djinn   Oct-10-09 11:05 PM   #89 
  - We expect a lot of ourselves and our leaders.  dhpgetsit   Oct-10-09 11:04 PM   #88 
  - Critics of Obama  MindandSoul   Oct-10-09 11:09 PM   #91 
  - Excellent point.  Seldona   Oct-10-09 11:54 PM   #102 
  - Thank you daedalus_dude  slay   Oct-11-09 04:30 AM   #109 
  - Thank you for your post.  Democracyinkind   Oct-11-09 04:56 AM   #112 
  - Good post. Goes to show the Right of either Name Brand rely on groupthink, projection & name-calling  Echo In Light   Oct-11-09 05:56 AM   #115 
  - The only criticism here that pisses me off is when I'm called an "Obama Worshiper."  old mark   Oct-11-09 06:36 AM   #120 
  - Conversely, those critical of long standing US policies don't "hate" Obama  Echo In Light   Oct-11-09 07:20 AM   #125 
     - and they refer to anyone who disagrees with them as "loony lefties"  YOY   Oct-11-09 11:19 AM   #138 
        - Or whiners, or people that want ponies.  asdjrocky   Oct-11-09 11:43 AM   #146 
           - Yes, asdjrocky, spot on. They don't get it. We DO support him. We just aren't locksteppers  YOY   Oct-11-09 11:48 AM   #148 
           - Actually, Obama sent me a pony the other day....  old mark   Oct-11-09 06:06 PM   #163 
  - Yes!  pmorlan1   Oct-11-09 10:15 AM   #126 
 

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