saltpoint
(1000+ posts)
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Sat Oct-10-09 08:36 AM
Response to Reply #142 |
| 147. I dismiss no Greeks and honor Nietzsche. 'Hope' is not the sole |
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variable in the Committee's decision to award the prize to the young American president, although it is bandied about in responses here and abroad as one element of the rationale.
To give all your sources their due, it was with demonstrable hope that Demeter searched for her daughter. The torment referenced is real, certainly, but cannot be navigated around. It cannot be removed from dedication and love. Moreover it cannot be diminished in Demeter's total narrative and purpose because along her way, hope clearly attendant, she is welcomed to the supper table of a peasant family and it is to that family's youngest son that she reveals the divine secret of the grain.
A very useful by-product of her journey. Also one which is not time-specific. She honors in the youngest son his earnestness, the absence of cynicism. That son's older brother dismisses Demeter, unaware that she is divine, and for his loose, cynical tongue he is turned into a lizard by the goddess.
Extracting from Demeter's story the impulse to award Good we have Dubya cast as the older son and Barack Obama as the earnest younger son, a personification of the promise of fruitful agriculture, of bountiful harvest.
If there is a divine secret of sustaining harvest and survival, it is to the younger earnest son that such a secret be shared.
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So again, I have to ask |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 10:43 PM |
#0 |

"...other than that of a mundane political campaign?" Mundane? Really? Really? |
Parker CA |
Oct-09-09 10:46 PM |
#1 |
 
Yes, really. |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 10:51 PM |
#7 |

Ho hum, nothing to see here, just carry on. |
Parker CA |
Oct-09-09 10:56 PM |
#16 |

He replaced Bush. |
baldguy |
Oct-09-09 10:46 PM |
#2 |
 
By that line of logic, if McCain had won the election, he should have been given the Nobel. |
WillowTree |
Oct-10-09 12:20 AM |
#108 |

Yeah, because McCain would have been SO much different than Bush |
Incitatus |
Oct-10-09 12:22 AM |
#111 |

Most people know (even if they wont admit it) that this wasnt for anything done yet |
DJ13 |
Oct-09-09 10:47 PM |
#3 |
 
I wonder why he needs to be coerced? Why he needs a peace award to do the right thing? |
SammyWinstonJack |
Oct-09-09 10:53 PM |
#10 |

I have no doubts he would still do the right things |
DJ13 |
Oct-09-09 10:58 PM |
#20 |

Misuse and bypass...I agree. |
SammyWinstonJack |
Oct-09-09 11:03 PM |
#29 |

Answer: |
tabatha |
Oct-09-09 10:48 PM |
#4 |

Read these and enjoy the fact that even if you don't, other people want |
babylonsister |
Oct-09-09 10:48 PM |
#5 |
 
Notice all those people had actually done something though, even if their work was still in progress |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:01 PM |
#26 |

Yea, he just sucks. No, he doesn't , you do! nt |
babylonsister |
Oct-09-09 11:26 PM |
#64 |
 
Ah yes, the retort of one who is short on logical arguments |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:28 PM |
#69 |

Actually, Tutu (1984) was given his years before apartheid ended (1994). |
tabatha |
Oct-10-09 12:33 AM |
#115 |

Yes, but Tutu had actually done a substantial body of work towards ending apartheid |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 07:05 AM |
#121 |

You miss the point. |
tabatha |
Oct-10-09 02:19 PM |
#191 |

What he did.. |
C_U_L8R |
Oct-09-09 10:50 PM |
#6 |
 
Clinton ended twelve years of Republican blight, and brokered the Good Friday accords to boot |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 10:54 PM |
#13 |

The man has inspired |
C_U_L8R |
Oct-10-09 12:27 AM |
#113 |

I see plenty of value in that, but many people have inspired, in numbers far greater than Obama's |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 07:07 AM |
#122 |

Apparently the judges disagree with you |
C_U_L8R |
Oct-10-09 08:28 AM |
#145 |

It is the ying and yang |
rufus dog |
Oct-09-09 10:52 PM |
#8 |

It's about what he wants to do....and....he's not Bush. nt |
Thickasabrick |
Oct-09-09 10:52 PM |
#9 |

Are you still f'ing whining about this? |
Mrs. Overall |
Oct-09-09 10:53 PM |
#11 |
 
Ah, I see you can't answer the question. |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 10:56 PM |
#15 |

+1 nt |
SammyWinstonJack |
Oct-09-09 11:05 PM |
#33 |

Since you've asked more than a couple people to "answer the question" |
Parker CA |
Oct-09-09 11:07 PM |
#36 |

And again, they are stating that this is awarded for being inspirational and NotBush |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:12 PM |
#46 |

Here's some more, and although they surely won't change your mind, here's more... |
Parker CA |
Oct-09-09 11:13 PM |
#47 |

Inspiration and NotBush |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:22 PM |
#61 |

Good luck. nt. |
Parker CA |
Oct-09-09 11:39 PM |
#85 |

YOU are deciding when a peace prize should be given. |
tabatha |
Oct-10-09 12:35 AM |
#116 |

No, I'm obviously not making that decision |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 07:09 AM |
#123 |

He has done plenty! |
tabatha |
Oct-10-09 02:11 PM |
#190 |

Really? How? |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 02:49 PM |
#194 |

Attitude, Hope, and Inspiration will do this screwed-up world a ton of good. |
TheCowsCameHome |
Oct-09-09 10:54 PM |
#12 |
 
It's a shame that some can't see the paradigm shift since he entered the world stage... |
sweetloukillbot |
Oct-10-09 07:21 AM |
#130 |
  
What direction is that? |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 07:28 AM |
#134 |
   
Yeah, yeah yeah I know, he's doubled down and infinitely extended.... |
sweetloukillbot |
Oct-10-09 07:34 AM |
#137 |
  
Speaking of selective blindness, |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 07:40 AM |
#138 |
  
No, I'm not ignoring the death of innocents. |
sweetloukillbot |
Oct-10-09 08:31 AM |
#146 |
  
Ah yes, the same rational that kept us in Vietnam for years and decades |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 08:56 AM |
#152 |
  
You're right about insanity. |
sweetloukillbot |
Oct-10-09 09:08 AM |
#154 |
  
So essentially you're saying that accomplishing in the abstract |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 09:11 AM |
#156 |
  
No... |
sweetloukillbot |
Oct-10-09 09:19 AM |
#158 |
  
OMG |
LWolf |
Oct-10-09 12:18 PM |
#182 |
 
That, and a buck |
blindpig |
Oct-10-09 07:53 AM |
#141 |

Try living without those things. |
TheCowsCameHome |
Oct-10-09 08:17 AM |
#143 |

In unrec'ing this post I pressed the mouse so hard it choked. |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 10:54 PM |
#14 |
 
Yes, but can you answer the question? |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 10:57 PM |
#18 |
  
I gave it the thought it deserved. |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 10:59 PM |
#24 |
   
Then rather than repeat your same talking point, refute my argument! |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:03 PM |
#31 |
    
I was strongly hinting that you do not have an argument. |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:04 PM |
#32 |
   
One doesn't judge the validity of an argument by the commentary of political talking heads |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:09 PM |
#42 |
   
You seem quite upset over the Committee's awarding the Prize to |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:11 PM |
#44 |
   
Yep, when logic fails, resort to personal attacks and ad hominems |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:17 PM |
#56 |
   
Ah, we hear the whispers behind your curtains more clearly... |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:19 PM |
#58 |
    
Yes, a CinC who is doubling down in one illegal, immoral war, |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:26 PM |
#66 |
   
Your anger has gotten the best of your brain. |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:27 PM |
#68 |
   
What, one dare not question the reasons? |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:30 PM |
#71 |
   
Graceless antagonism targeting a popular and globally influential man. |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:32 PM |
#74 |
   
Asking a simple question is graceless antagonism? |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:33 PM |
#78 |
   
Sorry. Your question, such as it is, is not simple at all. Is it. |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:35 PM |
#82 |
   
No, it's quite simple despite all of your attempts to portray it otherwise |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:44 PM |
#87 |
   
Find someone else to jump through your hoops. I don't do hoops. |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:48 PM |
#89 |
   
Apparently you don't do rational debate either |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:53 PM |
#95 |
   
Oddly enough, I do. But there's no evidence of it in your posts in this |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:55 PM |
#99 |
   
Ah, now you are entirely avoiding the issue |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:59 PM |
#102 |
   
It seems untoward, IMO, that you have decided to lecture the Nobel |
saltpoint |
Oct-10-09 08:40 AM |
#148 |
   
Obama also said that he didn't deserve the prize |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 10:15 AM |
#165 |
   
Wow now that's stunning news! Can you post a link about that meeting because I'd like to see it. |
earth mom |
Oct-10-09 02:43 PM |
#193 |
   
I heard it as the headline yesterday morning on NPR Morning Edition |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 02:51 PM |
#195 |
   
Thanks so much I will check it out. I find it all Orwellian too. |
earth mom |
Oct-10-09 02:55 PM |
#198 |
   
Well put Saltpoint |
R. P. McMurphy |
Oct-10-09 10:01 AM |
#161 |
  
Rather than asking people on DU who had no influence in the decision, |
Parker CA |
Oct-09-09 11:01 PM |
#27 |
 
Thank you. Your post and their words obviate the OP's graceless assault. |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:02 PM |
#28 |
 
I've read the statement, |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:06 PM |
#34 |
 
Then you're going to have to deal with the fact that their rational isn't acceptable to you. nt. |
Parker CA |
Oct-09-09 11:08 PM |
#37 |
  
That's why I ask the question, |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:24 PM |
#62 |
 
In that case you should contact the Nobel Committee without delay |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:08 PM |
#38 |
 
"Knocked over the stand-up stapler, too." This made me laugh out loud. Good stuff. ;) |
Parker CA |
Oct-09-09 10:58 PM |
#19 |
 
Ha! My mouse just about died! Graceless indeed, and unrec! nt |
babylonsister |
Oct-10-09 12:17 AM |
#106 |

: ) Hi, there. It's apparently out of vogue to defend a good man around |
saltpoint |
Oct-10-09 08:41 AM |
#149 |

He has altered the course of Global Diplomacy |
sandnsea |
Oct-09-09 10:57 PM |
#17 |
 
But what has he DONE? Oh, altered the course of Global Diplomacy -- and |
gateley |
Oct-09-09 11:00 PM |
#25 |
  
Excuse me, did you click the link? |
sandnsea |
Oct-09-09 11:09 PM |
#40 |
 
I should have used the sarcasm tag. I'm with you on this -- |
gateley |
Oct-09-09 11:11 PM |
#43 |
 
I understood that, |
sandnsea |
Oct-09-09 11:15 PM |
#53 |
 
Really, doubling down on one illegal, immoral war, |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:35 PM |
#81 |

Well I guess if you lie like a rightwinger |
sandnsea |
Oct-09-09 11:54 PM |
#97 |

Yes, I recognize that he promised to expand the Afghanistan campaign |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 07:12 AM |
#124 |

See how you skipped over the NATO part |
sandnsea |
Oct-10-09 11:25 AM |
#174 |

Al Gore |
Mz Pip |
Oct-09-09 10:58 PM |
#21 |

He has made the POSSIBILITY of peace a reality, had peaceful talks with nations |
gateley |
Oct-09-09 10:58 PM |
#22 |
 
All the while doubling down on one illegal, immoral war, |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:32 PM |
#75 |

Perhaps you want to pretend otherwise, but "inspiration" is more powerful than . . . |
MrModerate |
Oct-09-09 10:58 PM |
#23 |
 
+1000 |
sweetloukillbot |
Oct-10-09 07:25 AM |
#132 |

You have to read about it |
bhikkhu |
Oct-09-09 11:03 PM |
#30 |

Planting a tree is DOING something, even if you can't eat the fruit today. |
Toucano |
Oct-09-09 11:07 PM |
#35 |

President Obama has given me hope. |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-09-09 11:08 PM |
#39 |
 
And hope ain't too shabby. |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:14 PM |
#51 |

Hi saltpoint |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-09-09 11:24 PM |
#63 |
 
You, and I, and people we don't even know deserve both and thankfully, |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:26 PM |
#65 |

I'm hoping we might see more help in New Orleans to fix the present damage |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-09-09 11:29 PM |
#70 |

I'll join that hope. And it may yet come to pass. Like you, I think worry |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:33 PM |
#77 |

Not only that |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-09-09 11:46 PM |
#88 |

Yeeks. Not good at all. I'm quite a ways north of any plate-shifting |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:49 PM |
#91 |

Depends how far north. |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-09-09 11:58 PM |
#100 |

Hope is misunderstood.. |
blindpig |
Oct-10-09 08:05 AM |
#142 |

I dismiss no Greeks and honor Nietzsche. 'Hope' is not the sole |
saltpoint |
Oct-10-09 08:36 AM |
#147 |

This is not on Obama |
BK101 |
Oct-09-09 11:09 PM |
#41 |
 
And they should have. That is the point many are trying to make, is it not? |
SammyWinstonJack |
Oct-09-09 11:13 PM |
#48 |
 
From what I've learned thus far today, the Committee doesn't necessarily |
gateley |
Oct-09-09 11:15 PM |
#54 |
 
There are - many |
sandnsea |
Oct-09-09 11:17 PM |
#57 |

The Nobel Committee did it just to piss you off. |
Ikonoklast |
Oct-09-09 11:11 PM |
#45 |
 
LOL. |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:13 PM |
#49 |
  
How is that funny? |
SammyWinstonJack |
Oct-09-09 11:14 PM |
#50 |
 
It's funny alright. |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:15 PM |
#52 |
 
Who cares, they're a bunch of socialists anyway. |
EFerrari |
Oct-09-09 11:17 PM |
#55 |

LOL! Wait -- is that funny? Why hell yes, it is. |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:20 PM |
#60 |
 
You should see THEIR birth certificates. |
EFerrari |
Oct-10-09 12:03 AM |
#105 |

And they're furriners. Can't trust'em. |
Ikonoklast |
Oct-09-09 11:34 PM |
#80 |

Trying to mess with our wars with their World Courts and their EUs |
EFerrari |
Oct-10-09 12:02 AM |
#104 |

He kept McCain / Palin out of the White House |
Liberal_in_LA |
Oct-09-09 11:20 PM |
#59 |
 
WE kept McCain / Palin out of the White House! |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-09-09 11:26 PM |
#67 |

In a fairly unrelated realm, had Palin actually won on the McCain/Palin |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:30 PM |
#72 |
 
I'm certain McCain would have been the first victim... |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-09-09 11:38 PM |
#84 |

LOL! O my god, that's your best one in ages, and they're ALL good! |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:44 PM |
#86 |

She's a true predator. |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-09-09 11:51 PM |
#93 |

Flying around shooting wolves out of the woods... |
saltpoint |
Oct-09-09 11:52 PM |
#94 |

I hear ya. |
Liberal_in_LA |
Oct-09-09 11:33 PM |
#76 |

Also Awarded Noble Peace Prize... |
Sheepshank |
Oct-09-09 11:31 PM |
#73 |

NO YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ASK! No answer will satisfy you and... |
TreasonousBastard |
Oct-09-09 11:34 PM |
#79 |
 
Ah yes, nice to see the bullyboy contingent is out in force. |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:38 PM |
#83 |
  
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-09-09 11:49 PM |
#90 |
 
No, I'm asking a question, |
MadHound |
Oct-09-09 11:55 PM |
#98 |
 
I'll try this again... |
TreasonousBastard |
Oct-10-09 12:18 AM |
#107 |
 
You're right, I am making a point |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 07:17 AM |
#127 |
 
"WE" did not award the prize to anyone. |
Blue-Jay |
Oct-10-09 04:31 PM |
#214 |
 
In other words - you have no answer. |
emilyg |
Oct-10-09 12:22 AM |
#110 |
  
I've answered elsewhere-- this OP just annoyed me with its tone. |
TreasonousBastard |
Oct-10-09 12:53 AM |
#118 |
 
Yet you still don't answer the question |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 10:18 AM |
#166 |
 
Here. Now read it and leave me alone unless... |
TreasonousBastard |
Oct-10-09 10:40 AM |
#172 |
 
LOL! Can't take the heat so you're bowing out |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 11:58 AM |
#177 |
 
So, you can't even bother to click the thread I started... |
TreasonousBastard |
Oct-10-09 01:46 PM |
#187 |
 
I clicked on your thread, you're overrating yourself |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 02:52 PM |
#196 |
 
Exactly |
ampad |
Oct-10-09 12:15 PM |
#181 |

I agree; it's probably a "not George W. Bush award" which actually the voters deserve. |
alarimer |
Oct-09-09 11:50 PM |
#92 |
 
I missed it. What was is? Someone posted Cheney's: |
EFerrari |
Oct-10-09 12:00 AM |
#103 |
  
Many Bothans died to get us this information. |
Engineer4Obama |
Oct-10-09 12:21 AM |
#109 |
 
Yep, that's it |
notesdev |
Oct-10-09 12:23 AM |
#112 |

Well, as Gibb's said, "everyone was surprised" . n/t |
Mind_your_head |
Oct-09-09 11:54 PM |
#96 |

soldiers dying in Afghanistan want to know, too. knr |
Mari333 |
Oct-09-09 11:58 PM |
#101 |

I still don't get it either |
proud2BlibKansan |
Oct-10-09 12:29 AM |
#114 |

The people who chose him for the prize are the ones with the only reason that matters |
RB TexLa |
Oct-10-09 12:39 AM |
#117 |

So sorry this is a miserable day for you. |
1955doubledie |
Oct-10-09 01:19 AM |
#119 |
 
Miserable day? LOL! |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 07:20 AM |
#128 |

i messed myself |
tranche |
Oct-10-09 01:23 AM |
#120 |
 
I'm sure that they sell Depends in your size |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 07:21 AM |
#129 |

What he has done is to be not Idiot Frat Boy. I think this year, like others in the past, |
Greyhound |
Oct-10-09 07:13 AM |
#125 |
 
The NotBush award, OK |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 07:26 AM |
#133 |

hahahah. wipe the froth off your chin, honey. |
cali |
Oct-10-09 07:14 AM |
#126 |
 
Not making me insane, |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 07:23 AM |
#131 |

you and logic aren't even on nodding terms. It's pointless to |
cali |
Oct-10-09 07:29 AM |
#135 |

Thanks for proving my point |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 07:34 AM |
#136 |

He's changed the OFFICIAL POLICY OF THE UNITED STATES |
HamdenRice |
Oct-10-09 07:48 AM |
#139 |
 
Umm, perhaps because part of that official policy change |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 08:49 AM |
#150 |

The Afghan war may be inadvisable, but it's not illegal |
HamdenRice |
Oct-10-09 08:54 AM |
#151 |

Ahh, but what about that part where we're firing on a sovereign country next door |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 08:59 AM |
#153 |

So you acknowledge you were dead wrong about the legality of the Afghan war? |
HamdenRice |
Oct-10-09 09:09 AM |
#155 |

Umm, the war in Afghanistan encompasses more than the country itself |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 09:16 AM |
#157 |

Link? |
HamdenRice |
Oct-10-09 09:26 AM |
#160 |

Hmm, go read the Nuremburg trial scripts |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 10:19 AM |
#167 |

That's about as persuasive as last year's "the T-bill has already defaulted!!!" |
HamdenRice |
Oct-10-09 10:29 AM |
#169 |

I don't "now" anything |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 12:00 PM |
#178 |

Hmm. |
JTFrog |
Oct-10-09 07:50 AM |
#140 |

Ask the committee that gave the award. |
TheCowsCameHome |
Oct-10-09 08:25 AM |
#144 |

Are you aware that the Nobel Committee has stated |
Bluenorthwest |
Oct-10-09 09:23 AM |
#159 |
 
I am aware of that. |
LWolf |
Oct-10-09 12:24 PM |
#183 |

RDP PLZ STFU n/t |
R. P. McMurphy |
Oct-10-09 10:02 AM |
#162 |
 
Oh aren't you the bad ass one |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 10:09 AM |
#163 |

I refer you to post #161 for elaboration |
R. P. McMurphy |
Oct-10-09 10:39 AM |
#171 |
 
Ah, elaboration to your original intent, |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 12:08 PM |
#180 |

Stifle discussion huh? |
R. P. McMurphy |
Oct-10-09 11:00 AM |
#173 |

Ha Ha Ha Ha Haaaaaaa Ha. Obama Won And You Can't Do Anything About It Ha Ha Ha Ha Haaaaa Ha. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Oct-10-09 10:12 AM |
#164 |
 
And that has what to do with the question I asked? |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 10:22 AM |
#168 |

Ha Ha Ha Ha Haaaaa Ha. Obama Won And Nothin You Can Whine About Can Change It Ha Ha Ha Ha Haaaaa Ha! |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Oct-10-09 10:36 AM |
#170 |

lol |
sandnsea |
Oct-10-09 11:27 AM |
#175 |

And again you show that you don't have facts or logic on your side, |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 12:02 PM |
#179 |

HA HA HA HA HAAAAAA HA! Obama Won And You Can't Take It. HA HA HA HA HAAAAAA HA! |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Oct-10-09 12:32 PM |
#185 |

Did you even graduate elementary school |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 02:54 PM |
#197 |

Your question may be best directed to the people who actually awarded the prize |
varelse |
Oct-10-09 11:36 AM |
#176 |

Apparently you miss the point of what the Nobel Commitee... |
rasputin1952 |
Oct-10-09 12:29 PM |
#184 |
 
Lots of people have made that same call in much more effective ways |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 02:57 PM |
#199 |

While I don't agree w/either Iraq or Afghanistan, |
rasputin1952 |
Oct-10-09 03:33 PM |
#210 |

It amuses me when the Far left & Far right bend so far around the curve that they bump butts. |
RoadRage |
Oct-10-09 12:44 PM |
#186 |

Why are you laying this in Obama's lap? |
Blue-Jay |
Oct-10-09 01:53 PM |
#188 |
 
Where did I say that I'm laying this in Obama's lap? |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 02:59 PM |
#200 |

Right here. |
Blue-Jay |
Oct-10-09 03:02 PM |
#204 |

Just pointing out what Obama has and has not done |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 03:09 PM |
#207 |

Being a troll and engaging in "trollery" are two different things. |
Blue-Jay |
Oct-10-09 04:24 PM |
#212 |

Its a cracker jack prize now. |
Mari333 |
Oct-10-09 01:54 PM |
#189 |
 
Spot on. |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 03:00 PM |
#202 |

Wow-all these posts on this thread and NO ONE can answer your question. |
earth mom |
Oct-10-09 02:40 PM |
#192 |
 
What answer would satisfy you? |
Blue-Jay |
Oct-10-09 02:59 PM |
#201 |
  
A solid, concrete, rational answer |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 03:03 PM |
#205 |
 
It's. Not. About. Any. Of. Those. Things. |
Blue-Jay |
Oct-10-09 04:30 PM |
#213 |
 
Nope, I didn't expect that they would or could |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 03:02 PM |
#203 |

I thought we'd seen the last of this kind of insanity & b.s. when * left office. |
earth mom |
Oct-10-09 03:10 PM |
#208 |

What he has done is redirect the world's default position on conflict. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-10-09 03:08 PM |
#206 |
 
Wow, you're able to excuse a lot |
MadHound |
Oct-10-09 03:12 PM |
#209 |

I find his original goals sound. We'll see where he ends up. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-10-09 03:34 PM |
#211 |

RE: So again.... |
chowder66 |
Oct-10-09 04:35 PM |
#215 |

There have been countless threads on why he recieved the prize |
Hatchling |
Oct-10-09 06:31 PM |
#216 |