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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:20 PM
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17. They banned guns in Great Britain and those imported guns (above)
As well as the illegal guns already in-country allowed a plague of home invasions to begin.

Criminals love it when "honest" people give up their right to own firearms.

Until dishonest people have to play by the same rules as the rest of us, you can count me in the other camp.
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  -Maybe it is time to join the civilized world, and do away with firearms BushOut06  Apr-16-07 11:00 PM   #0 
  - Guns are almost totally restricted in Brazil. Doesn't work very well.  Zynx   Apr-16-07 11:01 PM   #1 
  - What is Brazil's poverty rate?  BushOut06   Apr-16-07 11:03 PM   #4 
  - Very high IIRC, depending on the city. But isn't there a poverty rate  babylonsister   Apr-16-07 11:09 PM   #10 
  - US wealth disparity is right up there with Brazil, Russia and Saudi Arabia  Zynx   Apr-16-07 11:12 PM   #13 
  - Poverty and Education ++  RobFalman   Apr-18-07 03:03 AM   #95 
  - Do they get guns anyway? n/t  PaulHo   Apr-17-07 12:44 AM   #35 
  - Are all those murders by guns?  Toots   Apr-17-07 08:28 AM   #60 
     - Around 80% of them.  Zynx   Apr-17-07 04:34 PM   #66 
  - Recommend # 1. Thank you.  understandinglife   Apr-16-07 11:02 PM   #2 
  - i never saw why we, as a supposed civilized society, need damn guns.  illinoisprogressive   Apr-16-07 11:03 PM   #3 
  - Because paranoid people think we need guns to protect us against...  Tesha   Apr-17-07 06:13 AM   #56 
  - And since it's not the 18th century any more  treestar   Apr-17-07 06:25 PM   #77 
     - Tell that to the Iraqis. nt  piedmont   Apr-18-07 01:39 AM   #91 
        - The Iraqis seem to be using IEDs at least as much as guns.  Tesha   Apr-18-07 07:29 AM   #97 
        - Guns are a major component of the Iraqi insurgents' toolbox.  piedmont   Apr-18-07 01:58 PM   #108 
        - The Iraqis had no gun restrictions under Saddam  treestar   Apr-18-07 11:53 AM   #107 
           - I'm pretty certain only Baath party members were allowed to have guns.  piedmont   Apr-18-07 01:59 PM   #109 
              - You are just plain wrong...  kirby   Apr-18-07 08:32 PM   #123 
  - Civilization is a fragile thing.  Nabeshin   Apr-17-07 07:01 PM   #79 
     - Ah, those guns really helped those folks  ProudDad   Apr-17-07 11:36 PM   #81 
  - Next, we could solve the drug problem by making crack and crystal meth illegal too!  dicksteele   Apr-16-07 11:04 PM   #5 
  - People can make their own drugs - a little bit harder to manufacture guns  BushOut06   Apr-16-07 11:07 PM   #8 
  - anybody with access to a machine shop and some sheet metal can build a firearm  davepc   Apr-16-07 11:09 PM   #12 
  - An average high school "shop" has MUCH more than would be necessary.  dicksteele   Apr-16-07 11:25 PM   #21 
  - Maybe so - but they would be subject to imprisonment for doing so  BushOut06   Apr-16-07 11:28 PM   #23 
  - just like people who grow pot and make crystal meth  davepc   Apr-16-07 11:32 PM   #26 
  - He was subject to being SHOT IN THE STREET for doing so!  dicksteele   Apr-16-07 11:47 PM   #28 
  - Thats how the Pakistani border tribes do it. Handmade AK-47's. full atuo  davepc   Apr-16-07 11:30 PM   #25 
     - amazing pics. thanks. nt  piedmont   Apr-18-07 01:41 AM   #92 
  - Its Very hard to make a gun  RobFalman   Apr-18-07 02:56 AM   #94 
     - no it is really simple  Pavulon   Apr-18-07 08:17 PM   #116 
  - You might think so. I don't.  dicksteele   Apr-16-07 11:19 PM   #16 
  - I don't buy your analogy.....  Kingshakabobo   Apr-17-07 01:18 AM   #45 
  - owning a heavy rock, or a sharp pointy stick has been arround just as long  davepc   Apr-17-07 01:23 AM   #47 
  - I'm not arguing the knife/baseball bat versus gun.......  Kingshakabobo   Apr-17-07 02:36 AM   #50 
     - I'd buy one. Hell, I might even make one.  piedmont   Apr-17-07 04:43 PM   #69 
  - the need to kill some fucktard who badly needed killing has been around since cain and abel  pitohui   Apr-17-07 02:40 AM   #53 
  - I'm not talking about NEED. I'm talking about addictions. nt  Kingshakabobo   Apr-17-07 03:39 AM   #54 
  - Most speak-easy customers weren't addicts. Prohibition doesn't work. nt  piedmont   Apr-18-07 01:42 AM   #93 
  - nice one! EOM  pitohui   Apr-17-07 02:38 AM   #51 
  - Although you and I are not on the same side of this issue  femmedem   Apr-17-07 06:08 AM   #55 
  - Well, I think we do ourselves a disservice to think of this as having "sides".  dicksteele   Apr-17-07 11:47 AM   #64 
  - You're right  ProudDad   Apr-17-07 11:42 PM   #82 
  - In the UK, the bad guys import assualt rifles that are smuggled in from eastern europe  davepc   Apr-16-07 11:06 PM   #6 
  - It would make a lot of sense to ban semiautomatics.  athena   Apr-16-07 11:06 PM   #7 
  - The main battle rifle of most of the combatants in World War II  davepc   Apr-16-07 11:08 PM   #9 
  - He could have killed  Mojorabbit   Apr-16-07 11:09 PM   #11 
  - It's very rare for more than a couple shots to be fired in a crime.  Zynx   Apr-16-07 11:17 PM   #14 
  - Bull****  qdemn7   Apr-18-07 08:29 AM   #100 
  - Great Idea but will never happen. This discussion comes up every time  frankly_fedup2   Apr-16-07 11:17 PM   #15 
  - They banned guns in Great Britain and those imported guns (above)  DCKit   Apr-16-07 11:20 PM   #17 
  - From some of the posts that I read here...  LeftishBrit   Apr-17-07 05:40 PM   #75 
     - Thank you!  ProudDad   Apr-17-07 11:49 PM   #85 
  - Your guns and my guns are not the problem, BushOut06  slackmaster   Apr-16-07 11:22 PM   #18 
  - Maybe so - but this country does need to take a hard look at serious gun control  BushOut06   Apr-16-07 11:25 PM   #20 
  - Please avoid pleas to "reasonableness"  slackmaster   Apr-16-07 11:27 PM   #22 
  - The desire for a "rock-solid guarantee" of safety  ProudDad   Apr-17-07 11:47 PM   #84 
     - If you want to accuse me of spouting "repuke pathology" please use the Alert button  slackmaster   Apr-18-07 03:45 PM   #112 
        - You have every right to (accidentally?) spout repuke talking points  ProudDad   Apr-18-07 08:09 PM   #114 
  - Get ready, the gun lobby is alive and well here  DainBramaged   Apr-16-07 11:23 PM   #19 
  - Not me by a long shot (OK, no pun), and I live in Texas. nt  babylonsister   Apr-16-07 11:48 PM   #29 
  - The fact that many DUers own firearms does not make us "the Gun Lobby", as you well know.  dicksteele   Apr-16-07 11:57 PM   #30 
     - As you well know, guns kill, which is the focus of the debates  DainBramaged   Apr-17-07 12:30 AM   #33 
        - Lots of things can kill, if and when human beings CHOOSE to use them for that purpose.  dicksteele   Apr-17-07 12:49 AM   #36 
           - And it seems when people CHOOSE to kill, they pick guns first  DainBramaged   Apr-17-07 12:57 AM   #37 
           - A warm "good night" to you as well, then.  dicksteele   Apr-17-07 01:12 AM   #41 
           - "Lots of things can kill"  ProudDad   Apr-17-07 11:53 PM   #87 
  - Couldnt agree more Bushout06 - lets see the other side start  pk_du   Apr-16-07 11:30 PM   #24 
  - Since you seem to have trouble using google:  davepc   Apr-16-07 11:43 PM   #27 
  - Sorry, you are wrong about the civilized world.  treelogger   Apr-17-07 12:05 AM   #31 
  - You're comparing apples and oranges  ProudDad   Apr-18-07 12:02 AM   #88 
  - Sorry, you said yourself, gun control does not work in other countries.  treelogger   Apr-18-07 01:18 AM   #89 
     - Let's go one more step...  ProudDad   Apr-18-07 08:16 PM   #115 
        - Explain how guns create inner-city slums.  treelogger   Apr-19-07 12:52 AM   #126 
  - WOW!  qdemn7   Apr-18-07 08:34 AM   #101 
     - You got a problem with this idea  ProudDad   Apr-19-07 02:47 PM   #133 
  - Rats in a maze.  Gregorian   Apr-17-07 12:26 AM   #32 
  - The problem is criminals with guns  gravity   Apr-17-07 12:40 AM   #34 
  - K&R nt  mycritters2   Apr-17-07 12:59 AM   #38 
  - "Civilized world"?  D__S   Apr-17-07 01:07 AM   #39 
  - KKKarl LOVES THIS THREAD  bushmeat   Apr-17-07 01:12 AM   #40 
  - And Karl was also behind Katrina?  nadinbrzezinski   Apr-17-07 01:14 AM   #43 
  - Bushout06 - I agree with you. 100%!  Balbus   Apr-17-07 01:13 AM   #42 
  - Get rid of guns then only right wingers will have guns  donheld   Apr-17-07 01:16 AM   #44 
  - Maniacal obsession with the guns is the problem  sandnsea   Apr-17-07 01:18 AM   #46 
  - The only problem is that strict gun control does not FULLY  nadinbrzezinski   Apr-17-07 01:25 AM   #48 
  - the world doesn't work that way  pitohui   Apr-17-07 02:36 AM   #49 
  - ROFL...  Jack_DeLeon   Apr-17-07 02:38 AM   #52 
  - In my neighborhood, here's how the drug dealers get their guns:  femmedem   Apr-17-07 06:20 AM   #57 
  - You have a point, but I could assemble a HE pipe bomb in less than an hour.  TheFriendlyAnarchist   Apr-17-07 06:24 AM   #58 
  - Not in my lifetime but thanks....  here_is_to_hope   Apr-17-07 08:25 AM   #59 
  - Would need a Constitutional amendment  Ninja Jordan   Apr-17-07 08:29 AM   #61 
  - Amendment  Thothmes   Apr-18-07 08:05 AM   #98 
  - What part of the "Civilized world" has done away with firearms?  ThomWV   Apr-17-07 08:42 AM   #62 
  - Australia  marions ghost   Apr-17-07 04:54 PM   #71 
  - Well, we could do away with fast-loading semiautomatics.  eppur_se_muova   Apr-17-07 11:31 AM   #63 
  - You seem confused.  treelogger   Apr-18-07 01:31 AM   #90 
  - Nope, when I saw the numbers of people dead  Pavulon   Apr-18-07 08:30 PM   #122 
  - Why take away my gun, I'm not going to shoot anyone with it!  Sirveri   Apr-17-07 04:22 PM   #65 
  - "I think I would be willing to give up this 'freedom' if it meant a safer society."  Raskolnik   Apr-17-07 04:39 PM   #67 
  - Your dreaming  marlakay   Apr-17-07 04:40 PM   #68 
  - What a steaming pile of shit. You would make the American people defenseless to the Bushistas  piedmont   Apr-17-07 04:48 PM   #70 
  - A good point the anti-gun nuts forget.  Odin2005   Apr-17-07 05:09 PM   #73 
  - You'd have to kill all of us hunters, first.  Odin2005   Apr-17-07 05:07 PM   #72 
  - Give the deer guns,  RedCappedBandit   Apr-17-07 11:50 PM   #86 
  - Couldn't agree with you more.  AZBlue   Apr-17-07 05:15 PM   #74 
  - I don't hunt, but I own a gun and will probably buy more  dbaker41   Apr-17-07 06:23 PM   #76 
  - Not until the Blackwaters are shut down. n/t  krkaufman   Apr-17-07 07:00 PM   #78 
  - Unfortunately, there are too many U.S. citizens  ProudDad   Apr-17-07 11:34 PM   #80 
  - You Bet You Sweet  qdemn7   Apr-18-07 08:39 AM   #102 
     - Glad to see you  ProudDad   Apr-18-07 08:22 PM   #119 
  - Then only the pigs have guns  RedCappedBandit   Apr-17-07 11:46 PM   #83 
  - And you would still have people killing people in large amounts  MadHound   Apr-18-07 06:00 AM   #96 
  - It WOULD cut down the lethality  ProudDad   Apr-18-07 08:21 PM   #117 
  - With our government in the shape it's in....  Little Star   Apr-18-07 08:22 AM   #99 
  - "The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."  cobalt1999   Apr-18-07 08:48 AM   #104 
     - T.J. very smart!!!! Bottom line people scare the  Little Star   Apr-18-07 08:58 AM   #105 
     - Sic Semper Tyrannis!  Odin2005   Apr-18-07 03:42 PM   #111 
        - Yep  ProudDad   Apr-18-07 08:25 PM   #121 
           - Actually, it was the elites who most resented giving such rights to "the mob"  Odin2005   Apr-19-07 07:58 AM   #130 
  - Think "Prohibition" and "war on drugs" Were they effective in getting rid of those objects?  jmg257   Apr-18-07 08:47 AM   #103 
  - Those who are willing to give up their liberty for the sake of their  windbreeze   Apr-18-07 09:13 AM   #106 
  - That's not the quote.  Toucano   Apr-19-07 01:15 AM   #128 
     - You should have noticed I did NOT use quotation marks...  windbreeze   Apr-19-07 11:50 AM   #131 
  - As a rural gun owner I resent the bigoted assertion that we rural Americans are uncivilized.  Odin2005   Apr-18-07 03:40 PM   #110 
  - Well, people keep telling us about One-Issue Voters....  Bridget Burke   Apr-18-07 03:49 PM   #113 
  - um...yeah...ok...  beevul   Apr-18-07 08:21 PM   #118 
     - I believe in reasonable gun control, but it's not my primary issue.  Bridget Burke   Apr-19-07 07:31 AM   #129 
  - You are right...  kirby   Apr-18-07 08:35 PM   #124 
  - Agreed  EstimatedProphet   Apr-19-07 03:07 PM   #137 
  - Make the production of guns and bullets illegal, and do not provide foreign  Truth Hurts A Lot   Apr-18-07 08:23 PM   #120 
  - I can make a gun  Pavulon   Apr-18-07 08:36 PM   #125 
     - Your post is a great example  ProudDad   Apr-19-07 02:49 PM   #134 
  - No way. Any minute Americans are going to rise up against their  Toucano   Apr-19-07 01:08 AM   #127 
  - Too late. We missed our chance at civilization.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-19-07 11:59 AM   #132 
  - Maybe it's time to join the civilized world, and actually join the civilized world!  EstimatedProphet   Apr-19-07 03:02 PM   #135 
  - I own 4 guns and support registration, training, limits, and THOROUGH background checks  RadiDem   Apr-19-07 03:04 PM   #136 
     - I do too, and we'd have that if we enforced the laws already on the books!  EstimatedProphet   Apr-19-07 03:09 PM   #138 

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