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Mon Apr-16-07 11:21 PM
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| 53. I get it, the gun lobby IS here. |
| -Guns kill people because people buy guns |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 10:36 PM |
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my husband buys guns and has never killed a person |
seabeyond |
Apr-16-07 10:37 PM |
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Guns kill PEOPLE because PEOPLE buy guns |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 10:39 PM |
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what about the guns people dont BUY but steal. |
seabeyond |
Apr-16-07 10:40 PM |
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Darn you, sea. |
Maddy McCall |
Apr-16-07 10:41 PM |
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Apr-16-07 10:44 PM |
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Me and mine are doin' fine. |
Maddy McCall |
Apr-16-07 10:48 PM |
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If there were no guns available, then how could anyone steal them? |
BushOut06 |
Apr-16-07 10:48 PM |
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If my aunt had testicles, she'd be my uncle |
slackmaster |
Apr-17-07 12:10 AM |
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Where do they steal those guns from? |
kiki |
Apr-18-07 07:16 AM |
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they arent stealing dope out of our homes. it isnt being sold in stores and then stolen |
seabeyond |
Apr-18-07 08:32 AM |
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Um... people don't steal dope from their dealers. |
kiki |
Apr-19-07 01:39 PM |
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and my point, if you outlawed the sales of guns, they would still be here |
seabeyond |
Apr-19-07 10:13 PM |
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OK, but that's really got nothing to do |
kiki |
Apr-20-07 05:43 AM |
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the only reason using any point wahtsoever about buying guns is op |
seabeyond |
Apr-20-07 06:29 AM |
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Erm... you've lost me. |
kiki |
Apr-20-07 08:20 AM |
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Bullshit. |
Maddy McCall |
Apr-16-07 10:40 PM |
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So did a broomstick kill those people today? |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 10:44 PM |
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Pathetic. |
Maddy McCall |
Apr-16-07 10:45 PM |
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His enemies list most be in the thousands. nt |
piedmont |
Apr-18-07 01:18 AM |
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GM cars kill people because people buy GM cars. nt |
piedmont |
Apr-18-07 01:05 AM |
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That's like saying that cars kill more people... |
zanne |
Apr-18-07 07:18 AM |
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If I meant that I would have said it. Your analogy has nothing to do with mine. nt |
piedmont |
Apr-18-07 02:00 PM |
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Neither had the guy at VT |
BushOut06 |
Apr-16-07 10:40 PM |
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a lot of "law-abiding" citizens buy knives, drive cars, has a hammer |
seabeyond |
Apr-16-07 10:47 PM |
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Fact is, there are lots of people who kill who have never had a criminal record |
BushOut06 |
Apr-16-07 10:53 PM |
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sure and there are a lot a lotta gun owners that go to their grave WiTHOUT |
seabeyond |
Apr-16-07 10:56 PM |
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You know those shotguns for hunting and skeet shooting in England and France? |
Maddy McCall |
Apr-16-07 10:39 PM |
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And yet they do so much less frequently in England and France. |
mycritters2 |
Apr-16-07 10:41 PM |
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Well, it may be for many reasons, but it is not because people BUY guns. |
Maddy McCall |
Apr-16-07 10:42 PM |
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Because they are all to drunk to shoot straight |
pingdashf |
Apr-17-07 12:27 AM |
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As a UK resident... |
kiki |
Apr-20-07 12:01 PM |
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To be fair... |
Kutjara |
Apr-16-07 10:43 PM |
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But we're not talking about concealability in this thread. |
Maddy McCall |
Apr-16-07 10:44 PM |
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The OP's post was about buying, but your reply wasn't. |
Kutjara |
Apr-16-07 10:48 PM |
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Is this concealability why it's illegal to saw off the barrel of a shotgun? |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Apr-16-07 10:58 PM |
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Yes. A sawnoff shotgun is probably the most deadly short-range weapon available. |
Kutjara |
Apr-16-07 11:01 PM |
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But a Glock has 15 +1 9MM rounds |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 11:06 PM |
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Columbine...sawed-off shotguns. Right? |
Maddy McCall |
Apr-16-07 11:01 PM |
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Yep, nice and concealable. |
Kutjara |
Apr-16-07 11:05 PM |
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So you can BUY a gun in the UK, modify it, and conceal it. |
Maddy McCall |
Apr-16-07 11:08 PM |
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All weapons purchased in the UK have to be registered with the police. |
Kutjara |
Apr-16-07 11:44 PM |
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Or |
pingdashf |
Apr-17-07 12:29 AM |
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No kidding |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Apr-16-07 10:45 PM |
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And they stopped using buckshot years ago here |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 11:01 PM |
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The point that you refuse to see |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Apr-17-07 12:34 AM |
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Kicked and rec'ed for the truth about guns. |
StrictlyRockers |
Apr-16-07 10:41 PM |
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Here compare American murder and gun murder with the rest of the world |
billbuckhead |
Apr-16-07 10:42 PM |
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Wait, Wait... |
MiltonF |
Apr-19-07 01:50 AM |
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Well said - we have a sickness in this country... |
cdnwannabe |
Apr-16-07 10:44 PM |
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WE SIMPLY HAVE MORE CRAZY PEOPLE.. |
sam sarrha |
Apr-16-07 10:45 PM |
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It's a culture of retribution. |
Maddy McCall |
Apr-16-07 10:47 PM |
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You're right. And that's what has to change: the old-west "retribution" mentality. |
AZBlue |
Apr-17-07 10:00 PM |
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Correction: |
kiki |
Apr-20-07 12:04 PM |
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Looks like this guy was Chinese national, not American. |
Zynx |
Apr-16-07 10:52 PM |
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But his weapon of choice, stolen or purchased, was a gun |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 10:57 PM |
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And the manufacturers make BILLIONS |
lynyrd_skynyrd |
Apr-16-07 10:47 PM |
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And donate that to politicians. |
AZBlue |
Apr-17-07 10:01 PM |
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Why do people who we assume to be progressive love their guns? |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 10:51 PM |
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Because we're not progressive. We're actually freepers. |
Maddy McCall |
Apr-16-07 10:59 PM |
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find me the statistics on number of children dead in car accidents |
seabeyond |
Apr-16-07 11:05 PM |
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How many children die because PEOPLE buy swimming pools? |
Nabeshin |
Apr-16-07 11:11 PM |
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Your logic is as dumb as owning a gun |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 11:20 PM |
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When confronted by an attacker, I don't want to defend myself with a swimming pool. nt |
piedmont |
Apr-18-07 01:20 AM |
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Then they'll make them |
bonito |
Apr-16-07 10:56 PM |
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But why are you scared where you live? |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 10:59 PM |
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I'm not |
bonito |
Apr-16-07 11:04 PM |
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Nope, so why do you need your gun to protect your family ? |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 11:14 PM |
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So following this logic, we can conclude that cars kill people because people buy cars |
Ghost in the Machine |
Apr-16-07 11:05 PM |
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You're trying to justify the ownership of guns |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 11:10 PM |
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and you are trying to justify a fascist, totalitarian agenda, in which you seek |
Ghost in the Machine |
Apr-17-07 12:30 AM |
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Why do you defend your gun ownership so strongly? |
DainBramaged |
Apr-17-07 12:38 AM |
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Bow and arrow |
Thothmes |
Apr-17-07 08:38 AM |
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Loving guns is an idiotic hobby |
durrrty libby |
Apr-16-07 11:14 PM |
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so is metal detecting, but hubby just..... loves it. n/t |
seabeyond |
Apr-16-07 11:15 PM |
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Men with small penises |
Alcibiades |
Apr-16-07 11:17 PM |
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Here's another quote, actually from Sigmund Freud. |
scrinmaster |
Apr-16-07 11:44 PM |
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i fear weapons and i dont have retarded sexual maturity, hubby owns guns |
seabeyond |
Apr-16-07 11:47 PM |
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And, of course, he has only one gun |
Alcibiades |
Apr-17-07 12:18 AM |
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Hmmmm |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 11:56 PM |
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I didn't reference people |
Alcibiades |
Apr-17-07 12:21 AM |
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I wonder if shooting it is , never mind |
DainBramaged |
Apr-17-07 12:22 AM |
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Spewing forth a stream of bullets? |
Alcibiades |
Apr-17-07 02:16 PM |
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Odd as it might seem, I am with you on this one but the problem goes deeper too. |
uppityperson |
Apr-16-07 11:17 PM |
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What i see here are gun owners trying to justify owning guns |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 11:18 PM |
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in all my posts none of it is about justifying, to you or anyone else |
seabeyond |
Apr-16-07 11:26 PM |
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Just a question... |
Chulanowa |
Apr-16-07 11:53 PM |
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I get it, the gun lobby IS here. |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 11:21 PM |
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look, a few of you I can't see anymore, so stop arguing with me. |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 11:22 PM |
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lol llol lol.... i am going to point finger, call names, give factless info |
seabeyond |
Apr-16-07 11:28 PM |
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I don't reply to the gun lobby, whoever you may be |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 11:34 PM |
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Most people who kill people don't 'buy' guns -- they get them illegally |
Azathoth |
Apr-16-07 11:38 PM |
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So if they "steal" them. where did they come from? |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 11:41 PM |
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Sometimes. They get them from a variety of sources, including smuggling |
Azathoth |
Apr-17-07 12:01 AM |
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So what, how many people get killed in England |
DainBramaged |
Apr-17-07 12:07 AM |
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You remind me of Bush, invoking the 9/11 families as an excuse to trample the Constitution |
Azathoth |
Apr-17-07 12:24 AM |
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Whatever, the fact remains, they were killed with handguns |
DainBramaged |
Apr-17-07 12:26 AM |
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Of course your argument remains the same |
Azathoth |
Apr-17-07 12:29 AM |
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If you don't like my opinion, why bother arguing with me? |
DainBramaged |
Apr-17-07 12:34 AM |
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Point well-taken |
Azathoth |
Apr-17-07 12:37 AM |
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I don't know how I have managed to get by for almost 50 years |
slackmaster |
Apr-16-07 11:40 PM |
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Am I telling you to do anything? |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 11:43 PM |
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I love only people, my pets, and the wonders of nature |
slackmaster |
Apr-16-07 11:45 PM |
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I guess you missed my last message |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 11:46 PM |
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I look forward to your last message |
slackmaster |
Apr-16-07 11:47 PM |
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lol lol you are sharp. should have gone to bed an hour ago |
seabeyond |
Apr-16-07 11:49 PM |
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agree with me on my thread or go AWAY.... bah hahhaha. |
seabeyond |
Apr-16-07 11:49 PM |
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Put me on ignore than. |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 11:44 PM |
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Apr-16-07 11:46 PM |
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So your antique collection is threatened by stopping the selling |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 11:48 PM |
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If the sale of handguns is stopped, the value of mine will drop to zero instantly |
slackmaster |
Apr-16-07 11:50 PM |
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So, people can die to keep the value of your collection up? |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 11:55 PM |
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Apr-16-07 11:57 PM |
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No, it's yur idea of a retirement fund that is dangerous to all of us |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 11:59 PM |
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stutter punch |
slackmaster |
Apr-17-07 12:03 AM |
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Apr-17-07 12:05 AM |
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Actually, their value will increase significantly as their availability decreases. |
MGD |
Apr-18-07 01:09 AM |
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Incorrect - similar massacre happened in Germany and in Switzerland |
treelogger |
Apr-16-07 11:49 PM |
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Your argument is the NRA argument |
DainBramaged |
Apr-16-07 11:53 PM |
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What does the NRA have to do with it? |
treelogger |
Apr-17-07 12:11 AM |
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Fine, I still think if we ban handguns, deaths will drop dramatically |
DainBramaged |
Apr-17-07 12:16 AM |
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So, the Democratic Majority is the problem? |
DainBramaged |
Apr-17-07 12:20 AM |
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Apr-17-07 12:16 AM |
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SEGUE: Why do people have handguns? (serious Q here) |
flying_monkeys |
Apr-17-07 12:42 AM |
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There are over 1.4 Million violent crimes in this nation annually. |
jmg257 |
Apr-17-07 02:29 PM |
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To shoot? |
treelogger |
Apr-18-07 12:26 AM |
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No one wants to answer you, they love their guns, simply put. |
DainBramaged |
Apr-18-07 07:15 AM |
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Pie in the sky. |
karlrschneider |
Apr-17-07 02:18 PM |
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You missed the entire point |
DainBramaged |
Apr-17-07 09:55 PM |
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Why isn't one bicycle enough? Or one shovel? |
treelogger |
Apr-18-07 01:02 AM |
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Why try to justify your gun ownership to me? |
DainBramaged |
Apr-18-07 07:08 AM |
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If you don't want to have your question answered ... |
treelogger |
Apr-19-07 12:38 AM |
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Guns kill people because people are bastards. |
tomreedtoon |
Apr-17-07 02:55 PM |
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An unarmed society is a society that is easy pickings for the police statists |
Odin2005 |
Apr-17-07 05:43 PM |
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Another Republican talking point |
DainBramaged |
Apr-17-07 09:56 PM |
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No. It's a belief of people who value LIBERTY. nt |
piedmont |
Apr-18-07 01:07 AM |
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So being able to kill is la form of liberty? |
DainBramaged |
Apr-18-07 07:11 AM |
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Being able to defend one's self with the best tools available is. nt |
piedmont |
Apr-18-07 02:02 PM |
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Our forefathers were liberals, not conservatives. |
MGD |
Apr-18-07 01:12 AM |
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We don't need to form a militia any longer |
DainBramaged |
Apr-18-07 07:10 AM |
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The large standing army is incompattible with the Democratic vision of our many forefathers |
MGD |
Apr-18-07 12:21 PM |
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And no one ever defends themselves from a group of attackers with a broomstick either |
piedmont |
Apr-18-07 01:16 AM |
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We aren't a Third world country yet |
DainBramaged |
Apr-18-07 07:13 AM |
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Go walk through downtown Miami, Dallas, or Los Angelas some night and find out how wrong you are |
MGD |
Apr-18-07 12:24 PM |
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This thread exposed some interesting opinions by gun defenders |
DainBramaged |
Apr-18-07 07:26 AM |
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Its hard to believe you engendered such a response isn't it? |
Raskolnik |
Apr-18-07 08:22 AM |
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you didnt listen, you were the one to diss opposing view, you cut people |
seabeyond |
Apr-18-07 08:41 AM |
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Must be nice that you live 1 minute away |
MiltonF |
Apr-19-07 02:04 AM |
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If you stop selling them, people that want them will steal them. |
porphyrian |
Apr-18-07 08:44 AM |
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I think that you're a bit off there |
MadHound |
Apr-18-07 02:35 PM |
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Apr-18-07 03:08 PM |
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I'm certain somewhere in unwritten history, someone killed 33 people with a broomstick |
ends_dont_justify |
Apr-19-07 02:06 AM |
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A broom stick would hardly defend you against an attacker with a gun |
CRF450 |
Apr-19-07 03:43 AM |
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gasp! But what about all those union workers who make guns? Don't you support unions? |
ComerPerro |
Apr-19-07 10:15 PM |
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