JDPriestly
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Tue Oct-06-09 04:13 PM
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| 37. Medicare is not too badly off right now. The problems that Medicare |
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will face in the future are primarily due to the demographic bubble of the baby boomers. The number of people supporting the Medicare obligations will decline as baby boomers retire. The number of people needing benefits will increase.
Medicare fraud is a problem, but it is not the main problem, which is the huge number of baby boomers who will soon retire and be eligible for Medicare.
There really is no alternative to Medicare other than letting old people die in horrible misery.
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| -Baucus Bill: Average family will be forced to pay $7000+ for private insurance |
garybeck |
Oct-05-09 12:43 AM |
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Good God. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Oct-05-09 12:44 AM |
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how in the world could this guy have a D next to his name? |
garybeck |
Oct-05-09 12:47 AM |
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What a terrible thing to say |
Horse with no Name |
Oct-07-09 01:15 AM |
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On the shiny side the proposal as shitty as it is comes out of committee on Tuesday. Take a breath. |
thunder rising |
Oct-05-09 12:53 AM |
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Is this how they'll imprison the poor? |
CoffeeCat |
Oct-05-09 12:54 AM |
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"making $63,000 a year is in the middle of the middle class" |
PSPS |
Oct-05-09 12:56 AM |
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I don't like this bill, but really, a 45 year old with a family of 4 should already be paying this |
Go2Peace |
Oct-06-09 04:34 AM |
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The problem with the amount is that it includes too many items |
JDPriestly |
Oct-06-09 04:03 PM |
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I agree with you |
Go2Peace |
Oct-07-09 04:05 AM |
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People with that income are probably receiving employer-assisted insurance coverage |
SoCalDem |
Oct-07-09 09:53 AM |
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MrsWCGreen and I pay about $ 5,400 for our share of our Health Insurance... |
WCGreen |
Oct-05-09 01:06 AM |
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My husband and I pay over $10,000 for just the two of us. |
Diane R |
Oct-05-09 01:17 AM |
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22,000 here for a family of three |
Ms. Toad |
Oct-05-09 02:17 AM |
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Mid 50s: Dh pays 11K for 2 of us. 70/30 plan, 10K deductible. |
Mimosa |
Oct-06-09 06:03 AM |
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That's $200 Per Month Per Person...Free Care vs. Reasonable Care |
KharmaTrain |
Oct-05-09 01:15 AM |
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The cuts could start with eliminating the middlemen, who |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-05-09 01:34 AM |
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You Missed My Question... |
KharmaTrain |
Oct-05-09 04:58 AM |
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Okay, you raise legitimate points. |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-06-09 03:27 AM |
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Medicare is not too badly off right now. The problems that Medicare |
JDPriestly |
Oct-06-09 04:13 PM |
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we pay for medicare now |
newspeak |
Oct-07-09 10:11 AM |
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read reply #8 n/t |
garybeck |
Oct-06-09 01:35 AM |
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If your doctor cuts off the wrong leg in an operation, you will not only |
JDPriestly |
Oct-06-09 04:09 PM |
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2014! |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-05-09 01:20 AM |
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He isn't up until 2014... |
WCGreen |
Oct-05-09 01:23 AM |
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Wishful thinking. |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-05-09 01:25 AM |
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IT'S CHANGE, BABY!!!! |
Skittles |
Oct-05-09 01:28 AM |
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no doubt filings are already in the works to fight this as unconstitutional - we'll see what happens |
tomm2thumbs |
Oct-05-09 01:30 AM |
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Obama does not want to raise taxes. He does not want single payer. |
JDPriestly |
Oct-05-09 02:39 AM |
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Obama wanted single payer in June 2008. What changed? n/t |
Mimosa |
Oct-06-09 06:56 AM |
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He got a better view at the financial condition of our country. |
JDPriestly |
Oct-06-09 04:01 PM |
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British Columbia, Canada..... BCMed yearly premium for a family of four or more |
Monk06 |
Oct-05-09 03:43 AM |
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Thank you for your injection of sanity into this discussion.. |
Fumesucker |
Oct-05-09 05:00 AM |
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Hear that USA?! $27 a week for a family of 4 regardless of income!!!!! |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Oct-05-09 05:47 AM |
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is that including the part of income taxes that goes to health care? |
ctaylors6 |
Oct-06-09 04:36 PM |
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The figure I quoted is based on adjusted net income which is explained |
Monk06 |
Oct-07-09 12:53 AM |
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thanks for the info! so that's an out of pocket premium, and doesn't include taxes |
ctaylors6 |
Oct-07-09 09:03 AM |
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Minor correction. BC is premium based Saskatchewan citizens pay through their Provinical income tax |
Monk06 |
Oct-08-09 12:51 AM |
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The Netherlands has mandatory private insurance costing 100 euros/month/adult |
eridani |
Oct-05-09 05:55 AM |
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Our uniquely American system demands that we pay 6 times as much and STILL have |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Oct-05-09 06:05 AM |
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this is what you get when the entities that are sposed to be regulated write the legislation. |
KG |
Oct-05-09 06:04 AM |
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And, that's just for starters! |
Vinnie From Indy |
Oct-05-09 07:16 AM |
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No way my daughter who is single mom could afford it! |
watercolors |
Oct-05-09 09:07 AM |
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But when I stated that my insurance rate was $14k/year, people said I was whining |
HughMoran |
Oct-05-09 09:10 AM |
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I can't imagine anyone not thinking 14K a year is excessive |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Oct-06-09 05:31 AM |
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And I suppose we single people are twice screwed. |
Withywindle |
Oct-06-09 02:04 AM |
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Same sex families? Well, the subsides are for 'families' |
Bluenorthwest |
Oct-07-09 10:24 AM |
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For many people it may turn into BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR |
madville |
Oct-06-09 04:30 PM |
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FUCK THIS!!! I don't have $7 to pay for health insurance, much less $7000! How |
Subdivisions |
Oct-08-09 12:55 AM |
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I so hear that - I'm in the same boat |
TorchTheWitch |
Oct-08-09 02:25 AM |
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