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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 07:07 PM
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116. And that is the feeling at the street level I am starting to hear
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  -Is the party about to finally fracture? nadinbrzezinski  Oct-04-09 10:20 PM   #0 
  - Not a chance.  TexasObserver   Oct-04-09 10:22 PM   #1 
  - Seriously  rockymountaindem   Oct-04-09 10:27 PM   #5 
  - You consume politics and you know how saussage is made  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 10:30 PM   #8 
  - But the people here should know better  rockymountaindem   Oct-04-09 10:45 PM   #25 
     - And we are still the minority, that is the point  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 10:48 PM   #27 
     - Folks don't have "several election cycles"...  sendero   Oct-05-09 06:08 AM   #93 
  - Yes. The GOP is falling apart, not the Democratic party.  TexasObserver   Oct-04-09 10:30 PM   #9 
  - The Republican party as already fractured.  harmonicon   Oct-04-09 11:10 PM   #45 
  - It's not about to fracture  Pab Sungenis   Oct-04-09 10:50 PM   #30 
     - And it's not fracturing now.  TexasObserver   Oct-04-09 10:57 PM   #33 
        - You aren't looking at the local level.  Pab Sungenis   Oct-04-09 11:07 PM   #43 
           - The level of frustration with the innaction at my local level  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 11:10 PM   #44 
           - Either support your statement with specificity or stop it.  TexasObserver   Oct-04-09 11:17 PM   #50 
              - Well, my local area is one perfect example.  Pab Sungenis   Oct-04-09 11:24 PM   #55 
                 - Looks like we have a party civil war on our hands, folks!  Odin2005   Oct-04-09 11:27 PM   #56 
                 - 1820s all over again  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 11:32 PM   #60 
                 - That's ridiculous. It's nothing like the 1820s.  TexasObserver   Oct-04-09 11:34 PM   #62 
                 - One major party dying, the other about to split. Yep, sounds like the 1820s.  Odin2005   Oct-04-09 11:38 PM   #65 
                    - That's ridiculous, and wholly without basis.  TexasObserver   Oct-04-09 11:43 PM   #68 
                       - I know my American history just fine, thank you very much.  Odin2005   Oct-04-09 11:46 PM   #71 
                          - But you do not know the RIGHT version of US History you see  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 11:47 PM   #72 
                          - Yep, the version where nothing rhymes and nothing can be learned.  Odin2005   Oct-04-09 11:51 PM   #75 
                          - No, you don't.  TexasObserver   Oct-04-09 11:52 PM   #76 
                             - Yes, I do, And So? That doesn't mean I can't have an interest in it.  Odin2005   Oct-04-09 11:57 PM   #77 
                 - The 3rd American Party System, RIP.  Odin2005   Oct-04-09 11:35 PM   #63 
                    - LOL  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 11:37 PM   #64 
                 - I said "in some places."  Pab Sungenis   Oct-05-09 09:22 AM   #102 
                 - You've described Democrats being Democrats.  TexasObserver   Oct-04-09 11:33 PM   #61 
  - there is deep division  mitchtv   Oct-04-09 10:25 PM   #2 
  - Well I know what I told my reps  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 10:26 PM   #3 
  - I've already made that vow. I'll fuckin stay home. n/t  Fire1   Oct-05-09 01:04 PM   #110 
  - what could have been if FDR lived...?  dysfunctional press   Oct-04-09 10:27 PM   #4 
  - A social Democracy  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 10:28 PM   #6 
     - i wasn't actually asking that question...  dysfunctional press   Oct-04-09 10:32 PM   #13 
        - And I gave you the answer  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 10:33 PM   #16 
           - i didn't ask that either.  dysfunctional press   Oct-04-09 10:48 PM   #26 
  - Maybe. Hopefully the hedge fund liberals will ditch and finally become republicans. nt  anonymous171   Oct-04-09 10:28 PM   #7 
  - If the GOP collapses that may happen  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 10:31 PM   #11 
  - let THEM form the third party.  dysfunctional press   Oct-04-09 10:31 PM   #10 
  - 2010 will be intersting  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 10:32 PM   #12 
     - the repug base never stays home.  dysfunctional press   Oct-04-09 10:33 PM   #15 
     - The Blue Dogs are going to be thrown out in 2010  AllentownJake   Oct-04-09 10:38 PM   #21 
  - The Party Is Utterly Broken - Something Has To Give  MannyGoldstein   Oct-04-09 10:32 PM   #14 
  - And that is the frustration I hear locally  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 10:34 PM   #18 
  - One can hope  BrklynLiberal   Oct-04-09 10:33 PM   #17 
  - Something bigger is going on than just the typical partisan politics  AllentownJake   Oct-04-09 10:35 PM   #19 
  - Something bigger is going on, and we can disagree as to what is the  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 10:38 PM   #20 
  - The Tea Baggers  AllentownJake   Oct-04-09 10:42 PM   #24 
     - Circa 1932 that is when the KKK started to bleed members  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 10:50 PM   #29 
     - If you could take away the fact that the new Michael Moore movie  AllentownJake   Oct-04-09 10:58 PM   #34 
        - I know  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 11:00 PM   #36 
        - Similiarly, a majority of people support a public option, but don't support Obama's public option  anonymous171   Oct-04-09 11:00 PM   #37 
        - Exactly, that is what is so maddening about the whole thing!  Odin2005   Oct-04-09 11:11 PM   #46 
           - In Reality  AllentownJake   Oct-04-09 11:12 PM   #47 
              - I agree.  Odin2005   Oct-04-09 11:16 PM   #49 
     - I am hearing the same thing  conscious evolution   Oct-05-09 06:24 AM   #94 
  - Just like in the 1830s...  Odin2005   Oct-04-09 10:59 PM   #35 
     - Cycles of history  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 11:02 PM   #39 
        - History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes. So sayeth Twain.  Odin2005   Oct-04-09 11:04 PM   #41 
  - Both party's are fractured  DJ13   Oct-04-09 10:39 PM   #22 
  - And we have been here before as a country  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 10:52 PM   #31 
  - The GOP will die and the Democratic Party will split.  Odin2005   Oct-04-09 10:41 PM   #23 
  - Points for history knowledge  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 10:52 PM   #32 
     - Thank you!  Odin2005   Oct-04-09 11:03 PM   #40 
        - Yep, he was a moron  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 11:06 PM   #42 
           - Yep.  Odin2005   Oct-04-09 11:15 PM   #48 
              - Don't you love living the chinese curse?  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 11:18 PM   #51 
                 - Not really, LOL!  Odin2005   Oct-04-09 11:23 PM   #54 
  - No, despite the ardent wishes of "party civil war Im series!!!" squawkers.  BlooInBloo   Oct-04-09 10:48 PM   #28 
  - LOL! Anyone with any sense is already gone.  donco6   Oct-04-09 11:01 PM   #38 
  - Nope. That is a Naderite pipe dream that consistently fails to happen.  BzaDem   Oct-04-09 11:18 PM   #52 
  - In spite of your pipe dreams that was the United States Supreme Court  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 11:22 PM   #53 
  - Who cares? Gore was not President. He would have been president if Naderites were rational.  BzaDem   Oct-05-09 12:05 AM   #79 
     - You are holding the wrong people accountable  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-05-09 12:09 AM   #81 
     - The data supports my point of view. No data supports your point of view.  BzaDem   Oct-05-09 05:32 AM   #89 
        - The only reality the statistics support is that it was a fuck-up on everybody's part.  Selatius   Oct-05-09 06:03 AM   #92 
        - Of course I blame Katherine Harris/Jeb Bush/etc.  BzaDem   Oct-05-09 06:26 AM   #95 
           - I think we differ on the definition of "freedom of choice."  Selatius   Oct-05-09 06:57 AM   #98 
        - So the Supreme Court, Katherine Harris and Jeb Bush had NUTHING  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-05-09 07:09 PM   #117 
     - Nader had no effect on the 2000 election  conscious evolution   Oct-05-09 06:34 AM   #96 
  - Naderite pipe dream, indeed.  TexasObserver   Oct-04-09 11:29 PM   #57 
     - The GOP is finished as a national political force.  Odin2005   Oct-04-09 11:49 PM   #73 
     - No, the GOP is not finished. It's struggling.  TexasObserver   Oct-04-09 11:57 PM   #78 
     - Unfortunately, that is not true nor will it ever be true. We will always live in a two-party state.  BzaDem   Oct-05-09 12:06 AM   #80 
     - A new party will form by the splitting of the Democratic Party.  Odin2005   Oct-05-09 12:14 AM   #82 
        - No, it won't. The Democratic party is not splitting.  TexasObserver   Oct-05-09 01:35 AM   #86 
           - In the long-term, it's a serious possibility. In America's 200+ year history, there has been changes  Selatius   Oct-05-09 07:09 AM   #100 
     - Oh dear, you are in for a rude awakening.  cali   Oct-05-09 03:42 AM   #87 
     - Not a chance, and we're foolish if we expect that to happen.  Forkboy   Oct-05-09 02:11 PM   #114 
     - Finally!  kctim   Oct-05-09 12:44 PM   #108 
  - Healthcare will be the litmus test.  rucky   Oct-04-09 11:29 PM   #58 
  - Agreed, that is the heart of the issue  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 11:31 PM   #59 
     - People are aligning at opposite sides of the "Big Tent" and are screaming at each other.  Odin2005   Oct-04-09 11:40 PM   #66 
        - Look at this thread....  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 11:41 PM   #67 
           - Obama has a choice between being FDR and being Hoover.  Odin2005   Oct-04-09 11:43 PM   #69 
  - Thank you Patrick Caddell  bluestateguy   Oct-04-09 11:45 PM   #70 
  - No.  cherokeeprogressive   Oct-04-09 11:50 PM   #74 
  - no.  unpossibles   Oct-05-09 12:48 AM   #83 
  - The usual suspects who like bankster bailouts, you mean?  Hannah Bell   Oct-05-09 12:49 AM   #84 
  - Brilliant distinction k*r  autorank   Oct-05-09 01:21 AM   #85 
  - Like the Republicans, the Democrats seem to be seeking how little they can give us and remain in...  Ozymanithrax   Oct-05-09 04:41 AM   #88 
  - You are assuming that Democratic politicans worry at all about the base not voting for them.  BzaDem   Oct-05-09 05:41 AM   #90 
     - I agree that working inside our system (primary challenges) is a way to do things  Ozymanithrax   Oct-05-09 12:52 PM   #109 
  - It's not a united party. Some will say it is.  mmonk   Oct-05-09 05:57 AM   #91 
  - No.  quaker bill   Oct-05-09 06:38 AM   #97 
  - People I know have just about had it with the spineless Democrats.  Vinca   Oct-05-09 07:08 AM   #99 
  - I don't think it's about "defending the usual suspects"  ecstatic   Oct-05-09 07:16 AM   #101 
  - Them Pubs actually want us to split...divided we fall shit...they work for it...invest $$ to see us  opihimoimoi   Oct-05-09 09:30 AM   #103 
  - Perhaps I am being an idealist  Robyn66   Oct-05-09 09:34 AM   #104 
  - Oh, as a practical matter the Dem Party is no-less able to become as fractured...  bridgit   Oct-05-09 09:55 AM   #105 
  - This informative dispute is why the UNREC feature is great.  philly_bob   Oct-05-09 12:16 PM   #106 
  - Well I for one have left the Democratic Party for good.  alarimer   Oct-05-09 12:19 PM   #107 
  - The party is already fractured  kctim   Oct-05-09 01:09 PM   #111 
  - I can't speak for anyone else,  bvar22   Oct-05-09 02:02 PM   #112 
  - And that is the feeling at the street level I am starting to hear  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-05-09 07:07 PM   #116 
  - K&R....Back UP to +1  bvar22   Oct-05-09 02:05 PM   #113 
  - about to?  Individualist   Oct-05-09 02:34 PM   #115 
     - Bingo! (NT)  Tesha   Oct-06-09 06:56 AM   #118 
 

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