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20. Having the money vs. having the ability are two different things
Does he have the infrastructure to put his movies in theaters by himself?

Does he have the marketing machine to do it?

Just having the money to do it doesn't make it all that simple to do. Lots of behind-the-scenes games. Let's be real - self-distributed films are a rather daunting task.
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  -Sorry, but Michael Moore's argument just doesn't make sense. Towlie  Oct-04-09 11:35 AM   #0 
  - Information is power.  tekisui   Oct-04-09 11:37 AM   #1 
  - "vast Obama-voting majority" is not reality  TxRider   Oct-06-09 09:38 AM   #104 
  - Hasn't the motion picture industry tried to freeze Mike out for years?  EFerrari   Oct-04-09 11:40 AM   #2 
  - In the spirit of its creation  notesdev   Oct-04-09 11:40 AM   #3 
  - How would that be different from swarms of bittorrent users downloading every other movie?  eShirl   Oct-04-09 11:41 AM   #4 
  - Well, it's got to get distributed somehow  LTR   Oct-04-09 11:48 AM   #5 
  - I read that he has now raised enough money to distribute all of his future movies himself  proud2BlibKansan   Oct-04-09 12:08 PM   #17 
     - Having the money vs. having the ability are two different things  LTR   Oct-04-09 12:31 PM   #20 
  - This is always a dilemma for progressive media...  Bjorn Against   Oct-04-09 11:49 AM   #6 
  - Reconsider your assumptions  omega minimo   Oct-04-09 10:09 PM   #66 
  - Yes it does, but it also limits the audience  Bjorn Against   Oct-04-09 11:13 PM   #70 
     - You are making your point to the previous poster  omega minimo   Oct-05-09 02:11 AM   #74 
        - No I understand your point  Bjorn Against   Oct-05-09 07:45 AM   #79 
           - Yet you repeat your negativism and pretend MoveOn is all I suggest, ending discussion  omega minimo   Oct-05-09 12:49 PM   #81 
              - No I am not ending discussion of possibilities  Bjorn Against   Oct-05-09 05:22 PM   #96 
                 - Well put. Thank you.  omega minimo   Oct-06-09 12:26 AM   #101 
  - He could have hooked up with Netflix and bypassed the theater  DatManFromNawlins   Oct-05-09 02:53 AM   #77 
  - It will be on Netflix when it is released on DVD, but it needed to be in theaters first  Bjorn Against   Oct-05-09 07:49 AM   #80 
  - WAKE UP!  Spoonman   Oct-05-09 03:47 PM   #90 
     - No Moore uses a capitalist corporation to distribute his films...  Bjorn Against   Oct-05-09 05:29 PM   #97 
  - His movie doing well will do one thing, basically  Dreamer Tatum   Oct-04-09 11:51 AM   #7 
  - it'll do much more than that-  dysfunctional press   Oct-04-09 11:27 PM   #71 
     - Moore is Pavlov. We're the dog. The movie is his bell.  timeforpeace   Oct-05-09 03:49 PM   #91 
        - i'm not hearing it this time.  dysfunctional press   Oct-05-09 10:41 PM   #100 
  - Have you seen the movie yet? n/t  Subdivisions   Oct-04-09 11:51 AM   #8 
  - It does to most working class folks  fascisthunter   Oct-04-09 11:53 AM   #9 
  - And then we, like corporations, whine and bleat Americans are uneducated...  Deja Q   Oct-04-09 12:46 PM   #28 
  - Turing out in droves will do only one thing.  BobRossi   Oct-04-09 11:57 AM   #10 
  - No one will be inspired to change things? No one will be moved to discuss problems? No one will be  KittyWampus   Oct-04-09 12:00 PM   #12 
  - Nice to see some people understand things.  Deja Q   Oct-04-09 12:45 PM   #27 
  - Knowledge is power. Artwork/Storytelling is Inspirational.  KittyWampus   Oct-04-09 11:58 AM   #11 
  - Michael usually releases his movies for free on the Internet. He did that with Sicko. n/t  Bolo Boffin   Oct-04-09 12:00 PM   #13 
  - See #25. I don't think that's entirely true. Indeed, where's the "walk his talk" aspect?  Deja Q   Oct-04-09 12:49 PM   #29 
  - Google "Tu Quoque". You're soaking in it. n/t  Bolo Boffin   Oct-04-09 01:49 PM   #41 
  - Your arguments have been debunked many times already  Kaleko   Oct-04-09 01:58 PM   #43 
     - BS  Spoonman   Oct-05-09 03:54 PM   #94 
        - Good luck.  Kaleko   Oct-05-09 07:24 PM   #99 
  - I'm actually surprised that "Capitalism" has NOT turned up on the net  Sebastian Doyle   Oct-04-09 01:02 PM   #33 
     - Michael Moore explained that SICKO was stolen  Generic Other   Oct-04-09 01:10 PM   #36 
  - Towlie wants to steal from artists and thinks that is groovy!  Bluenorthwest   Oct-04-09 12:04 PM   #14 
  - Thanks for proving the point that Moore is a capitalist who wants your money and nothing more.  Deja Q   Oct-04-09 12:51 PM   #31 
  - thanks for demonstrating an absurd logical fallacy. That Moore can't critique an economic system  KittyWampus   Oct-04-09 01:22 PM   #38 
  - He is a businessman.  sabrina 1   Oct-04-09 06:24 PM   #60 
  - Sorry to hear about your reading comprehension impairment, Bluenorthwest.  Towlie   Oct-04-09 03:23 PM   #46 
     - No, you just innocently dropped the suggestion into people's minds  Touchdown   Oct-04-09 03:56 PM   #49 
     - Dude, you certainly gave yourself the right name! Kudos. n/t  Fire1   Oct-04-09 06:46 PM   #61 
     - It's also not is copyright infringement  Zodiak   Oct-05-09 01:17 PM   #84 
        - I guess you've never watched a DVD, or VHS for that matter.  Touchdown   Oct-05-09 01:35 PM   #86 
  - That is foolish of you, it's a miracle this film has opened so widely, kudos to MM nt  flamingdem   Oct-04-09 12:05 PM   #15 
  - Let me speak as someone employed by the motion picture industry  Beaverhausen   Oct-04-09 12:08 PM   #16 
  - It's also killing itself the way Corporate Music did by charging too much per unit.  omega minimo   Oct-04-09 12:38 PM   #24 
  - Bullshit. The Lion King on Broadway? $165 a ticket. Up in a theater? Average $8.  Touchdown   Oct-04-09 04:02 PM   #50 
     - The reference was to movie prices. Theaters charge too much.  omega minimo   Oct-05-09 01:08 PM   #83 
        - I referenced that.  Touchdown   Oct-05-09 01:27 PM   #85 
           - No. You called it bullshit. Then did a strawman number.  omega minimo   Oct-05-09 01:38 PM   #87 
              - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-05-09 03:15 PM   #88 
  - The one damn thing not made in China  treestar   Oct-04-09 07:28 PM   #64 
  - "The heads of the studio I work for are Democrats."  Spoonman   Oct-05-09 03:51 PM   #92 
  - Most of us, if we're lucky anyway, have some kind of job for which we are paid.  man4allcats   Oct-04-09 12:23 PM   #18 
  - You don't like Michael Moore much, do you Towlie?  leveymg   Oct-04-09 12:23 PM   #19 
  - Sure, I like him. I just didn't like that shallow-sounding sales pitch of his.  Towlie   Oct-04-09 03:20 PM   #45 
  - It has to start somewhere  HughMoran   Oct-04-09 12:32 PM   #21 
  - MM sure has brought lots of cynical, spoiled, ungrateful, impotent, unAmerican childishness out  omega minimo   Oct-04-09 12:35 PM   #22 
  - No need to hide, Omega. When you're right you're right. n/t  Fire1   Oct-04-09 06:48 PM   #62 
  - On the upside. Bitchin is the best cure for what ailes you.  Fire1   Oct-04-09 06:55 PM   #63 
     - The revolutionary artist who succeeds is always called a sellout by those who come after  omega minimo   Oct-04-09 10:21 PM   #67 
  - Both multiplexes near my neighborhood had Moore's film.  DailyGrind51   Oct-04-09 12:37 PM   #23 
  - Moore's on record saying pirates hurt his profits.  Deja Q   Oct-04-09 12:43 PM   #25 
  - You keep attacking Moore for doing nothing...  Bjorn Against   Oct-04-09 11:46 PM   #72 
  - Michael Moore's "argument" is a commercial to sell a product.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Oct-04-09 12:44 PM   #26 
  - +1  Deja Q   Oct-04-09 12:50 PM   #30 
  - Well now that's a load of bullshit.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Oct-04-09 12:51 PM   #32 
  - How many times are you going to call him the Limbaugh of the Left?  Patriot 76   Oct-04-09 05:25 PM   #55 
  - It's less tiresome than the other bizarre obsessions he forces on us, though.  QC   Oct-04-09 10:25 PM   #69 
  - Yeah, how DARE he.  PVnRT   Oct-05-09 12:57 PM   #82 
  - Ronald McDonald is not a corporation making/selling hamburgers. Moore is an individual artist  KittyWampus   Oct-04-09 01:25 PM   #39 
  - Truth's proooobably NOT so bleak, here.  Zix   Oct-04-09 03:28 PM   #48 
  - Is Michael Moore really going to quit if there's no revolution?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Oct-04-09 04:38 PM   #53 
     - Well, I don't know what methods you would have him use.  Zix   Oct-04-09 05:09 PM   #54 
     - One man's passion is another man's sales pitch...  LanternWaste   Oct-04-09 05:57 PM   #57 
     - The cynical slime is just so oozy and comfy, ain't it?  omega minimo   Oct-05-09 03:25 PM   #89 
  - Just as yours are  omega minimo   Oct-04-09 10:25 PM   #68 
  - I think it's about what you pledge to do after the movie is over  Generic Other   Oct-04-09 01:03 PM   #34 
  - Towli says "it'll be interesting to watch"  Generic Other   Oct-04-09 01:53 PM   #42 
  - What would you suggest he do to get his message out?  AllentownJake   Oct-04-09 01:08 PM   #35 
  - Apparently there are people on our side who don't want the message to get out!  Generic Other   Oct-04-09 01:18 PM   #37 
  - He was was tapped the other day on NPR for taking corporate funding...  bridgit   Oct-04-09 01:40 PM   #40 
  - I'm spending my hard-earned pay to see his movie in the theater and I intend to take my  bertman   Oct-04-09 02:36 PM   #44 
  - MIchael is merely trying to get a message across  donheld   Oct-04-09 03:27 PM   #47 
  - Strikes me as similiar to the line of thinking  JonQ   Oct-04-09 04:31 PM   #51 
  - You are aware that the big studios are not behind this movie  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-04-09 04:33 PM   #52 
  - Moore would not have been able to get his movies into theatre chains WITHOUT the movie industry  earth mom   Oct-04-09 05:44 PM   #56 
  - I'm amazed that Sicko didn't make a bigger impact  Canuckistanian   Oct-04-09 06:00 PM   #58 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-04-09 06:00 PM   #59 
  - Becuase the $ from this movie is ONE TINY DROP IN THE BUCKET  yodermon   Oct-04-09 08:41 PM   #65 
  - It's a fair way to make a buck.  rucky   Oct-04-09 11:53 PM   #73 
  - moore produced it. so it's mostly moore who's profiting, not "the industry".  Hannah Bell   Oct-05-09 02:36 AM   #75 
  - I hope that...  Tx4obama   Oct-05-09 02:53 AM   #76 
  - The old chestnut, 'Life is short; Art is long,' obtains.  saltpoint   Oct-05-09 03:02 AM   #78 
  - Michael Moore is like a kid who cries and complains, and won't realize what he had until it is gone.  BMD   Oct-05-09 03:54 PM   #93 
  - He's a Capitalist Genius!  Spoonman   Oct-05-09 03:57 PM   #95 
  - Yeah 'cause demonstrating that there is a huge progressive audience  Warren Stupidity   Oct-05-09 05:52 PM   #98 
  - And here come the hypocritical union haters out in full force.  ContinentalOp   Oct-06-09 01:21 AM   #102 
  - He's wrong, because the people who see it will be the people who already agree with him  eridani   Oct-06-09 02:14 AM   #103 

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