| 84. Right. She NEVER approved it for use in that age group. |
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I agreed with her then, and now.
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| -Natalie Morton died from large chest tumour, NOT hpv vaccine |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 04:23 PM |
#0 |
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anti-vaccers: GARDASIL CAUSES LARGE CHEST TUMORS!11! |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-01-09 04:24 PM |
#1 |
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within HOURS!!!!! must've been the fast acting vaxxcinn |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 04:26 PM |
#3 |
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Well.... |
cliffordu |
Oct-02-09 10:58 AM |
#121 |
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You have the logic of them pegged. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-02-09 03:57 PM |
#133 |
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oooh, did Big Pharma get to the NHS people too? |
AngryAmish |
Oct-01-09 04:25 PM |
#2 |
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Antivaxers were too quick to leap on this one |
Warpy |
Oct-01-09 04:26 PM |
#4 |
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who are you calling "anti-vaxers"? I'm just curious. Do you mean those DU'ers with an issue |
KittyWampus |
Oct-01-09 04:53 PM |
#17 |
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Oh Kitty, don't you know? |
kimmerspixelated |
Oct-01-09 05:02 PM |
#25 |
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Oh kimmer, don't you know? There's a lot of people involved with dichotmous thinking, some of us see |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 05:07 PM |
#31 |
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Well, my experience has been that some of you |
kimmerspixelated |
Oct-01-09 05:14 PM |
#39 |
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I understand that people have concerns about this vaccine. However, there are those |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 07:10 PM |
#85 |
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Yup |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-01-09 05:06 PM |
#30 |
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Yeah, and it was approved under Bush's FDA... |
joeybee12 |
Oct-01-09 05:18 PM |
#40 |
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Antivaxers are fanatics who jump on a sudden death after a vaccination |
Warpy |
Oct-01-09 05:57 PM |
#56 |
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Thank you, that is a very good definition. eom |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 06:50 PM |
#74 |
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Well, I have trouble with the vaccination mainly because it was approved |
joeybee12 |
Oct-01-09 06:51 PM |
#75 |
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It was barely approved |
Warpy |
Oct-01-09 07:05 PM |
#82 |
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But you also had an FDA owned by Big Pharma...did they ignore |
joeybee12 |
Oct-01-09 07:17 PM |
#89 |
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At some point you need to realize the testing has been done |
Warpy |
Oct-02-09 11:25 AM |
#123 |
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I'm sorry if any questioning is construed as whining... |
joeybee12 |
Oct-02-09 05:50 PM |
#139 |
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Odd how you seemed to miss a few things |
Warpy |
Oct-03-09 08:24 AM |
#158 |
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This is about the UK; the Bush administration and FDA were not involved here |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-02-09 10:51 AM |
#118 |
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Did I say anything here...did you see me post anything about that |
joeybee12 |
Oct-02-09 06:08 PM |
#142 |
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My point was... |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-03-09 11:10 AM |
#162 |
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Who should it be marketed to? The elderly?? |
kestrel91316 |
Oct-01-09 07:37 PM |
#98 |
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Women over twenty. The ones who would actually benefit from it. |
KittyWampus |
Oct-02-09 10:32 AM |
#117 |
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For most of them, it would be too late to benefit. by then |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-02-09 10:53 AM |
#119 |
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the FACT is younger women's bodies spontaneously rid themselves of the virus. |
KittyWampus |
Oct-02-09 02:03 PM |
#125 |
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ALL of them? Then why do so many women get cervical cancer? |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-02-09 02:09 PM |
#129 |
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Actually, cervical cancer is a rare disease now, thanks to the success of pap smears. |
pnwmom |
Oct-02-09 06:27 PM |
#147 |
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They are available to all women in Britain... |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-03-09 10:57 AM |
#161 |
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"There are 9 billion bicycles in Beijing, that's a FACT". Link to proof of assertion? |
uppityperson |
Oct-03-09 05:02 PM |
#169 |
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Kitty, No, Not true. Sorry. |
boppers |
Oct-03-09 10:33 PM |
#187 |
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Thank you. There is a lot of confusion about all this, coupled with fears |
uppityperson |
Oct-03-09 10:36 PM |
#188 |
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Women under twenty don't have sex in your world? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-02-09 10:54 AM |
#120 |
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How ignorant can any DU'er be? It's been posted ad naseum that younger women DO NOT NEED THE VACCINE |
KittyWampus |
Oct-02-09 02:05 PM |
#126 |
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Then why do YOUNG women sometimes get cervical cancer? |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-02-09 02:10 PM |
#130 |
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link to that "fact"? |
uppityperson |
Oct-03-09 05:03 PM |
#171 |
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Excuse me? |
Warpy |
Oct-02-09 11:31 AM |
#124 |
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YOU are the one who is totally ignoring reality. YOUNG WOMEN"S BODIES RID THEMSELVES OF THE VIRUS |
KittyWampus |
Oct-02-09 02:07 PM |
#128 |
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Screeching in all caps doesn't do you any good |
Warpy |
Oct-02-09 02:57 PM |
#131 |
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All women's bodies will rid themselves of the virus some percentage of the time. |
Maru Kitteh |
Oct-02-09 03:30 PM |
#132 |
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What percentage and of which strains? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-02-09 04:00 PM |
#134 |
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LINK |
uppityperson |
Oct-03-09 05:03 PM |
#170 |
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There is no such thing as "THE VIRUS". |
boppers |
Oct-03-09 10:39 PM |
#189 |
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aw, come on, it's a "medical FACT"!!!1111 |
uppityperson |
Oct-03-09 10:56 PM |
#191 |
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I guess you can't pay a pathology dept. to say she died from a tumor. |
valerief |
Oct-01-09 04:29 PM |
#5 |
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If it's not a lie she died from a large chest tumor, then it's.....unclear? |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 04:31 PM |
#6 |
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pls put me on ignore |
valerief |
Oct-01-09 05:59 PM |
#58 |
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Naw, you can just ignore us instead. "fingers in ears, lalalalalala" Best of luck. |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 06:51 PM |
#76 |
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Oh geez. |
LeftyMom |
Oct-01-09 04:35 PM |
#8 |
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pls put me on ignore |
valerief |
Oct-01-09 05:59 PM |
#59 |
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No. |
LeftyMom |
Oct-02-09 12:22 AM |
#113 |
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Are you accusing the pathologist of accepting a bribe to fake the postmortem |
kestrel91316 |
Oct-01-09 04:35 PM |
#9 |
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he/she is not calling it a lie, just saying doesn't believe it is the truth, see? |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 04:37 PM |
#10 |
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pls put me on ignore |
valerief |
Oct-01-09 06:00 PM |
#62 |
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I think you have it backwards. If you ignore us, then you don't have to see us anymore |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 07:11 PM |
#86 |
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He just doesn't want us calling him on his crazy bullshit anymore. n/t |
Ian David |
Oct-01-09 09:06 PM |
#109 |
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pls put me on ignore |
valerief |
Oct-01-09 05:59 PM |
#60 |
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Kindly bite me. Your outrageous statements will NOT get a pass from me. |
kestrel91316 |
Oct-01-09 07:29 PM |
#93 |
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You need help. n/t |
Ian David |
Oct-01-09 04:42 PM |
#12 |
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pls put me on ignore |
valerief |
Oct-01-09 06:00 PM |
#61 |
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No. I want to observe your self-destruction out of morbid curiosity. n/t |
Ian David |
Oct-01-09 09:05 PM |
#108 |
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And so works the mind of a conspiracy theorist. Assume everything is a lie. |
armyowalgreens |
Oct-01-09 06:16 PM |
#64 |
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Those were some quick-moving goalposts. nt |
Robb |
Oct-01-09 08:04 PM |
#102 |
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Oh FFS, you sound just like the birthers. |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-02-09 11:00 AM |
#122 |
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that tumor NEVER would have killed her if she hadn't got the vaccine. |
kestrel91316 |
Oct-01-09 04:33 PM |
#7 |
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Yes, apparently guardasil should now be contraindicated |
northzax |
Oct-03-09 11:15 AM |
#163 |
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You know, Rick Perry's cousin was also vaccinated. |
Ian David |
Oct-01-09 04:42 PM |
#11 |
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Of course, the goalposts will be moved to claim this either isn't the case or doesn't matter. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Oct-01-09 04:43 PM |
#13 |
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"THE schoolgirl who died after ..." I've never heard of her. However, she's not THE only person |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 04:45 PM |
#14 |
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link? |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 04:50 PM |
#15 |
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Sure. |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 04:59 PM |
#20 |
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"The vaccine has been linked to 32 unconfirmed deaths". Oh Kay. |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 05:04 PM |
#28 |
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More importantly ... |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 05:08 PM |
#32 |
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But the bottom line seems to be this (from the same link): |
pnwmom |
Oct-01-09 11:41 PM |
#111 |
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So more women are having "serious adverse events" than get cervical cancer? |
uppityperson |
Oct-02-09 01:06 AM |
#115 |
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Read the whole article then. That is what she's saying. n/t |
pnwmom |
Oct-02-09 02:11 AM |
#116 |
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Just because something happens, and then a little later something else happens, doesn't |
Liquorice |
Oct-01-09 04:51 PM |
#16 |
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Gosh, I've never heard that before. Does that apply to the fact that this isolated case may not be |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 04:59 PM |
#19 |
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There are some risks with all vaccines, but the risk is very low. nt |
Liquorice |
Oct-01-09 05:00 PM |
#22 |
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Apparenlty you missed the quote from Diane Harper? |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 05:03 PM |
#26 |
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Is this the same Diane Harper who said |
Liquorice |
Oct-01-09 05:09 PM |
#34 |
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I wonder if it is the same person. Quotes taken out of context or??? |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 05:10 PM |
#36 |
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Same person, |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 05:22 PM |
#43 |
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Yes in July of 2008 she's quoted as saying what you note. And, In August of 2009 |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 05:22 PM |
#42 |
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Looks like in 2007 she was not for it either. |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 07:04 PM |
#81 |
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Right. She NEVER approved it for use in that age group. |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 07:06 PM |
#84 |
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More of what she wrote...8/8/08 |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 07:22 PM |
#90 |
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I can't think of a thing I disagree with. I always find her reasonable in her |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 07:25 PM |
#91 |
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Trying to wade through the fun snark here, from all sides. |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 07:32 PM |
#95 |
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HPV Vaccine Deemed Safe and Effective, Despite Reports of Adverse Events |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 07:39 PM |
#99 |
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I can't open the link. |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 08:02 PM |
#101 |
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I had to register to do it, but figure it will serve me good in the long run |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 08:05 PM |
#103 |
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I think I have an account |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 08:33 PM |
#107 |
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Yes. She revised her opinion after obtaining new information. |
pnwmom |
Oct-01-09 05:25 PM |
#45 |
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Exactly. This thread shows that. Even when proven the shot didn't kill her, some don't believe it. |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 07:12 PM |
#87 |
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Bingo! |
trotsky |
Oct-01-09 07:40 PM |
#100 |
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I believe it, for what it's worth. In fact, I expected that some of those |
pnwmom |
Oct-01-09 11:44 PM |
#112 |
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Here is a quote about the real risk. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-02-09 05:47 PM |
#137 |
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Cervical cancer cases are also very rare, thanks to annual pap smears. |
pnwmom |
Oct-02-09 06:06 PM |
#141 |
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The developer is ignorant or lying then. 772 adverse reactions total vs. 4000 deaths a year. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-02-09 06:10 PM |
#143 |
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You're comparing apples and oranges. The 23 million doses were received |
pnwmom |
Oct-02-09 06:24 PM |
#146 |
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"serious adverse effects from the vaccine are more common than cervical cancer cases."? No |
uppityperson |
Oct-03-09 05:11 PM |
#174 |
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Yes, according to Diane Harper, the developer of the HPV vaccine. |
pnwmom |
Oct-03-09 05:53 PM |
#176 |
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ah. And since she therefor says 4600 |
uppityperson |
Oct-03-09 08:29 PM |
#180 |
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4600 is less than 722 is what it said, html code canceled last bit |
uppityperson |
Oct-03-09 10:06 PM |
#183 |
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4600 can't be simply compared to 722 without taking into account the different |
pnwmom |
Oct-03-09 11:46 PM |
#198 |
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And there would be a further decline if cancer didn't happen at all. |
uppityperson |
Oct-04-09 01:06 AM |
#204 |
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Pap smears catch the vast majority of cellular changes in the cervix before |
pnwmom |
Oct-04-09 01:31 AM |
#206 |
| -
and wouldn't it be nice if those cellular changes were decreased? |
uppityperson |
Oct-04-09 04:09 PM |
#210 |
| -
I'm sure you know that links to that assertion have been provided dozens of times |
pnwmom |
Oct-04-09 09:55 PM |
#211 |
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Being a mind reader is difficult and you are wrong. |
uppityperson |
Oct-05-09 12:31 AM |
#213 |
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I still can't believe that someone as well informed as you are |
pnwmom |
Oct-05-09 01:43 AM |
#214 |
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hahahahahaha. you slay me. As a nurse who does paps, & has had a class 2 myself, |
uppityperson |
Oct-05-09 04:00 PM |
#217 |
| -
She is not "the developer" of the vaccine. You attempt an appeal to authority that doesn't exist. |
Maru Kitteh |
Oct-04-09 12:32 AM |
#202 |
| -
4070 deaths, 11,270 new cases 2009 is "very rare"? Bull. 12/day is "rare"? |
uppityperson |
Oct-03-09 05:09 PM |
#172 |
| -
I see that quote in that article, wonder where they got it from. |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 07:29 PM |
#94 |
| -
Looks to me like ABC got the quote directly from her? They interviewed several medical pros. |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 08:32 PM |
#106 |
| -
This is the most accurate quote in the article. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-02-09 05:46 PM |
#136 |
| -
So says you. |
mzmolly |
Oct-02-09 07:45 PM |
#148 |
| -
You are free to. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-02-09 11:08 PM |
#151 |
| -
Thank |
mzmolly |
Oct-02-09 11:39 PM |
#153 |
| -
I agree that real concerns should be investigated. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-02-09 11:45 PM |
#154 |
| -
As do I. And any death |
mzmolly |
Oct-03-09 12:10 AM |
#155 |
| -
The girl in the story died 18 days after the vaccination. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-03-09 10:55 AM |
#160 |
| -
As I've indicated |
mzmolly |
Oct-03-09 04:26 PM |
#166 |
| -
Who said it should be assumed in any case? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-03-09 08:22 PM |
#178 |
| -
Those who call anyone who discusses |
mzmolly |
Oct-03-09 09:55 PM |
#181 |
| -
Where was that in the article, I missed that? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-03-09 09:58 PM |
#182 |
| -
It's the overwhelming |
mzmolly |
Oct-03-09 10:08 PM |
#184 |
| -
You said the article not this thread. That explains the confusion. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-03-09 10:12 PM |
#185 |
| -
I'm sorry you were confused. |
mzmolly |
Oct-03-09 10:32 PM |
#186 |
| -
I wasn't confused. I was excusing your mistake in a nice way. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-03-09 10:53 PM |
#190 |
| -
Had I made a mistake, |
mzmolly |
Oct-03-09 11:30 PM |
#196 |
| -
Post # 166 you said the article, then in post # 184 you said the threads here. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-03-09 11:35 PM |
#197 |
| -
The conversation evolved. |
mzmolly |
Oct-04-09 01:20 AM |
#205 |
| -
Take care. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-04-09 01:35 AM |
#207 |
| -
You as well |
mzmolly |
Oct-04-09 02:12 PM |
#209 |
| -
I never have understood how there is a confirmed link that is an unconfirmed death. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-02-09 05:43 PM |
#135 |
| -
And I don't understand |
mzmolly |
Oct-02-09 07:47 PM |
#149 |
| -
You can bet the vaxers |
StarryNite |
Oct-03-09 05:10 PM |
#173 |
| -
Show where that has happened. One case here. Can't, can you |
uppityperson |
Oct-03-09 08:27 PM |
#179 |
| -
Exactly! |
kimmerspixelated |
Oct-01-09 04:55 PM |
#18 |
| -
a vaccine can cause a "large malignant tumor in the chest" within hours? Seriously? |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 04:59 PM |
#21 |
| -
No but given she had a pre-existing condition, |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 05:00 PM |
#23 |
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I didn't say anything about the tumors being caused by anything. |
kimmerspixelated |
Oct-01-09 05:05 PM |
#29 |
| -
My apologies. Please clarify what you mean by "Three, if the vaccine was the culprit, and from what |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 05:09 PM |
#33 |
| -
The vaccine might've been the culprit |
kimmerspixelated |
Oct-01-09 05:12 PM |
#37 |
| -
What do you mean? |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 05:12 PM |
#38 |
| -
The cause of death was the LARGE MALIGNANT TUMOR. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-02-09 06:11 PM |
#144 |
| -
Pap smears detect cancer; they don't prevent it |
REP |
Oct-01-09 05:02 PM |
#24 |
| -
Good for you. |
kimmerspixelated |
Oct-01-09 05:10 PM |
#35 |
| -
Really. Love to see your facts on that |
REP |
Oct-01-09 05:21 PM |
#41 |
| -
But the vax is being mandated for girls |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 05:24 PM |
#44 |
| -
Yes. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-01-09 05:27 PM |
#46 |
| -
You should really inform yourself a bit before commenting. |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 05:31 PM |
#49 |
| -
I've heard it all before. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-01-09 05:32 PM |
#50 |
| -
I'm sure the scientist will be moved by your highly intelligent, evidence based |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 05:49 PM |
#53 |
| -
Maybe. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-01-09 05:55 PM |
#55 |
| -
Because once you've been exposed to HPV, the vaccine isn't effective any more. |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-01-09 05:30 PM |
#48 |
| -
The researcher who developed the vaccine never agreed that it |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 05:33 PM |
#51 |
| -
Wrong vaccine. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-01-09 05:58 PM |
#57 |
| -
Wrong vaccine my arse! |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 06:13 PM |
#63 |
| -
Harper worked on gardasil. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-01-09 06:16 PM |
#66 |
| -
And she worked on CERVARIX. |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 06:43 PM |
#71 |
| -
link? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-01-09 06:49 PM |
#73 |
| -
Sure. |
mzmolly |
Oct-01-09 07:00 PM |
#79 |
| -
It's mandatory in the US, if you are trying to get citizenship |
HipChick |
Oct-03-09 11:49 PM |
#199 |
| -
My best friend had cervical cancer, but she didn't encourage her daughter to get the vaccine. |
pnwmom |
Oct-01-09 06:38 PM |
#69 |
| -
This is a good point |
northzax |
Oct-03-09 11:37 AM |
#164 |
| -
A "holocaust"? Really? |
trotsky |
Oct-01-09 06:44 PM |
#72 |
| -
I missed the "this is a holocaust in it's own right" statement. thanks for pointing it out |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 06:57 PM |
#77 |
| -
79% of statistics are made up on the spot. |
LeftyMom |
Oct-02-09 12:24 AM |
#114 |
| -
Butbutbut...the Daily Fail said...! (nt) |
redqueen |
Oct-01-09 05:04 PM |
#27 |
| -
Great! Now what about the other 31 deaths? And the other unexplained |
pnwmom |
Oct-01-09 05:28 PM |
#47 |
| -
Wrong vaccine. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-01-09 05:37 PM |
#52 |
| -
What exactly does someone stand to gain |
Chemisse |
Oct-01-09 06:16 PM |
#65 |
| -
Lots of woo woos like to sell books, snake oil, and other paraphenalia. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-01-09 06:20 PM |
#67 |
| -
So you see no shades of gray here? |
Chemisse |
Oct-01-09 07:01 PM |
#80 |
| -
Not really, no. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-01-09 07:14 PM |
#88 |
| -
Indeed. |
pnwmom |
Oct-01-09 06:30 PM |
#68 |
| -
That's exactly how I feel - about being well-informed consumers |
Chemisse |
Oct-01-09 06:41 PM |
#70 |
| -
I pointed that out about the Bush FDA approving this... |
joeybee12 |
Oct-01-09 07:05 PM |
#83 |
| -
The Bush FDA weren't involved in this at all - because it wasn't in America. |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-03-09 04:47 PM |
#168 |
| -
Self-righteousness and an irrational distrust of science. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Oct-01-09 07:35 PM |
#96 |
| -
What "31 other deaths"? And yes, I agree that this may help them not feel so guilty. |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 07:00 PM |
#78 |
| -
There were a few that involved embolisms. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-01-09 07:26 PM |
#92 |
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Were these "deaths after vx so must be from vx" type things? Wonder if any ate pickles. |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 07:35 PM |
#97 |
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Correct, they have only been associated with, not proven to have caused |
pnwmom |
Oct-01-09 11:36 PM |
#110 |
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Hard to investigate. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-02-09 05:55 PM |
#140 |
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It could be investigated if necessary. |
pnwmom |
Oct-02-09 06:16 PM |
#145 |
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Anywhere from 1 - 10% of vaccine reactions are reported to VAERS |
mzmolly |
Oct-02-09 09:00 PM |
#150 |
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Talking to my internist's nurse about vaccines today, I was happy to hear |
pnwmom |
Oct-03-09 01:55 AM |
#157 |
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I'm glad your Dr. is reasonable. It seems many medical pros are? I've heard about HepB. |
mzmolly |
Oct-03-09 04:31 PM |
#167 |
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How would we investigate this woman's death and come to a indisputable conclusion? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-02-09 11:24 PM |
#152 |
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Autopsies determine the cause of death every day. |
pnwmom |
Oct-03-09 01:50 AM |
#156 |
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THIS woman's death was undetermined. Do you propose exhuming her body? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-03-09 10:52 AM |
#159 |
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How did they find out about the large chest tumor then? They must have done |
pnwmom |
Oct-03-09 05:43 PM |
#175 |
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Please follow along. We are talking about the woman in the ABC story post #140. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-03-09 08:17 PM |
#177 |
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Merck should be following up every death with an offer to pay for an autopsy. |
pnwmom |
Oct-03-09 11:26 PM |
#195 |
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If you repeat something often enough in a reply to yourself, does it become true? nt |
uppityperson |
Oct-04-09 12:25 AM |
#201 |
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The 31 unconfirmed deaths? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Oct-02-09 05:49 PM |
#138 |
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Did ANYONE know about this tumor beforehand? |
rocktivity |
Oct-01-09 05:49 PM |
#54 |
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A clear case of post hoc reasoning. |
alarimer |
Oct-01-09 08:12 PM |
#104 |
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betcha if I posted "hpv causes death" would get a lot more recs also. |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-09 08:15 PM |
#105 |
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"Parents neurotically worried about kids cause a diagnosis of autism." |
boppers |
Oct-04-09 02:22 AM |
#208 |
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It's good that this has come out |
JonQ |
Oct-02-09 02:06 PM |
#127 |
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Name removed |
Oct-03-09 03:29 PM |
#165 |
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*sure* she did ....uh-huh...... |
Mind_your_head |
Oct-03-09 10:57 PM |
#192 |
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Are you accusing the pathologist of lying? |
uppityperson |
Oct-03-09 10:59 PM |
#193 |
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Very 'scientific' of the pathologist to just say she "had a large chest tumor" |
Mind_your_head |
Oct-03-09 11:07 PM |
#194 |
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Have you ever noticed that they often don't give specifics, perhaps due to privacy considerations? |
uppityperson |
Oct-04-09 12:23 AM |
#200 |
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! |
Maru Kitteh |
Oct-04-09 12:43 AM |
#203 |
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Where? In the chest. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-04-09 09:58 PM |
#212 |
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How would one's education go "down the (republican?) toilet" in the UK? |
LeftyMom |
Oct-05-09 02:00 AM |
#215 |
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Down the Republican toilet? |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-05-09 06:45 AM |
#216 |
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