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42. Why, a Nazi sympathizer, of course!
What a silly question. :)
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  -Tate Modern to display nude picture of 10-year-old Brooke Shields Alongside Pornographic Images Cash_thatswhatiwant  Sep-30-09 02:17 AM   #0 
  - Ah, once upon a time artists could shock the public by painting the sky the wrong color.  Matariki   Sep-30-09 02:20 AM   #1 
  - I laughed at that response. Thanks.  Hoopla Phil   Sep-30-09 02:51 AM   #3 
  - True...  Dorian Gray   Oct-01-09 05:14 AM   #82 
  - The verbal gymnastics of the curators remind me of the justifications for ...  Hekate   Sep-30-09 02:51 AM   #2 
  - This is fairly par for the course for shit at the Tate Modern  WildEyedLiberal   Sep-30-09 03:13 PM   #9 
  - It's the "Emperor's New Clothes" line of thinking  XemaSab   Sep-30-09 05:43 PM   #40 
  - pater la bourgeoisie is really played out by this point in the art game...  mitchum   Oct-01-09 04:09 PM   #149 
  - and once again, I say.. Where was her MOTHER?  SoCalDem   Sep-30-09 03:30 PM   #13 
  - She was right there when the picture was being taken  WeDidIt   Sep-30-09 03:57 PM   #19 
  - Ms. Sheilds seems to be a very good mother to her own children  Maru Kitteh   Sep-30-09 11:33 PM   #61 
  - Brooke Shields was never nude in Pretty Baby in the bath scene she was  Monk06   Oct-01-09 04:42 AM   #79 
     - And that makes a difference how?  MrModerate   Oct-01-09 04:48 AM   #80 
     - The on set photos for Pretty Baby were published in Playboy in the Seventies  Monk06   Oct-01-09 04:59 AM   #81 
        - I think I've seen the Belloq photos (if not the whole essay) at some point . . .  MrModerate   Oct-01-09 05:22 AM   #85 
     - She was nude in that movie  JanMichael   Oct-01-09 01:52 PM   #112 
        - I was speaking of scene photos of the bath scene but I yes she was nude  Monk06   Oct-01-09 11:47 PM   #152 
  - I agree. See my post #91  Hekate   Oct-01-09 04:20 AM   #77 
  - He mom was an alcoholic  Dorian Gray   Oct-01-09 05:15 AM   #83 
  - Reminds me of the stage mothers from "Brno"  gmoney   Oct-01-09 02:32 PM   #121 
  - and once again, I say, .. Where was her FATHER?  lukasahero   Oct-01-09 10:46 AM   #96 
  - You have advanced degrees in the arts?  harmonicon   Oct-01-09 12:26 AM   #64 
     - My first impulse was to laugh, but here is your serious answer...  Hekate   Oct-01-09 04:18 AM   #76 
        - it is not being shown with adult porn  harmonicon   Oct-01-09 08:27 AM   #90 
           - You threw down the gauntlet of academic creds. PM me if still interested. nt  Hekate   Oct-01-09 11:31 AM   #99 
              - ashamed of being an intellectual?  harmonicon   Oct-01-09 12:21 PM   #103 
                 - Stop trying to goad me. PM me.  Hekate   Oct-01-09 03:46 PM   #140 
                    - I'm the one trying to goad you? I don't think so. nt  harmonicon   Oct-01-09 07:28 PM   #151 
                       - .  Hekate   Oct-03-09 02:06 AM   #184 
                          - powerful stuff (nt)  harmonicon   Oct-03-09 07:12 AM   #185 
  - Sally Mann  MichaelHarris   Sep-30-09 03:00 AM   #4 
  - anyone remember "pretty baby?"  orleans   Sep-30-09 03:08 AM   #5 
  - I remember it...  regnaD kciN   Sep-30-09 03:31 AM   #6 
  - it was an extremely different time. i remember it well--  orleans   Sep-30-09 02:39 PM   #7 
  - back then it had more to do with the idea that women were property  dugaresa   Sep-30-09 03:09 PM   #8 
  - I've heard that back in the 70s younger teens were ENCOURAGED to have sex WAY TOO EARLY!  Odin2005   Sep-30-09 03:36 PM   #15 
  - Oh, sure. We really pushed that early teen sex.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-30-09 05:15 PM   #33 
  - It depends on how far south you lived  MajorChode   Sep-30-09 05:43 PM   #39 
  - I heard that true .... back in the seventies .... it wasn't true then either.  Monk06   Oct-01-09 05:17 AM   #84 
  - I also heard that girls could get pregnant by sharing bathwater with their brothers  MajorChode   Oct-02-09 12:18 AM   #153 
  - Encouraged by *who*? Not by their parents or society generally. Mainly by the media &  Hannah Bell   Oct-02-09 12:32 AM   #155 
  - things like rape were only the scary monster on the street who was a stranger  seabeyond   Sep-30-09 07:45 PM   #53 
  - 1973?  treestar   Oct-01-09 01:25 PM   #105 
  - i was in calif. high school 74-79. what we did have was more boys that innately understood that  seabeyond   Oct-01-09 01:38 PM   #107 
  - WTF? Delusional. The public university I went to had curfew in their women's  Hannah Bell   Oct-02-09 12:29 AM   #154 
     - That was the way it was at WSU in the late 60s  Thothmes   Oct-02-09 05:04 AM   #172 
  - I remember it  ChickMagic   Sep-30-09 03:49 PM   #17 
  - I remember it as well - it was scary, not sexy  TrogL   Sep-30-09 05:09 PM   #30 
  - She was 12  WeDidIt   Sep-30-09 03:59 PM   #20 
  - is there some kind of campaign to normalize pedophilia?  27inCali   Sep-30-09 03:17 PM   #10 
  - Probably perverted bohemians that have read to much Nietzsche and Postmodern crap.  Odin2005   Sep-30-09 03:40 PM   #16 
  - Wait...so now reading Nietzsche leads to pedophilia?  Ignis   Sep-30-09 04:05 PM   #21 
  - This is why I fully support the Tate.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-30-09 04:09 PM   #23 
  - We must have NO nude child art--especially that Infant Jesus!  Ignis   Sep-30-09 04:51 PM   #27 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Sep-30-09 05:24 PM   #35 
  - lay off Nietzsche  27inCali   Sep-30-09 04:20 PM   #24 
  - Did you reply to the wrong post?  Ignis   Sep-30-09 04:49 PM   #26 
  - The one who went to brothels where he contracted syphilis?  harmonicon   Oct-01-09 12:31 AM   #66 
  - Yeah, that comment had me worried  Stuckinthebush   Sep-30-09 05:04 PM   #29 
  - I'm of the opinion that nearly all postmodern "philosophy" is garbage.  Odin2005   Sep-30-09 08:40 PM   #57 
     - And you reached this opinion after years of studying postmodernism?  Ignis   Oct-01-09 11:53 AM   #100 
     - Of those I would consider only Nietzsche to be a "postmodernist"  Odin2005   Oct-01-09 03:36 PM   #136 
        - That's a lot of hatred, but no real critique of postmodern philosophy.  Ignis   Oct-02-09 01:54 PM   #179 
           - I don't believe in "ultimate truths", Just objective truth.  Odin2005   Oct-02-09 04:04 PM   #182 
              - What is the molecular mass of Beauty? The boiling point of Evil?  Ignis   Oct-02-09 04:39 PM   #183 
     - It's not  Stuckinthebush   Oct-01-09 12:13 PM   #102 
        - Can't read nonsensical gibberish.  Odin2005   Oct-01-09 03:36 PM   #137 
           - It's not  Stuckinthebush   Oct-01-09 03:47 PM   #142 
  - I meant that many artsy types tend to have a sneering, snobbish, elitist attitude...  Odin2005   Sep-30-09 08:37 PM   #56 
     - You've never seen that same attitude in a boardroom?  Ignis   Sep-30-09 11:18 PM   #58 
     - It a common attitude among many elitist types that are full of themselves.  Odin2005   Sep-30-09 11:20 PM   #59 
        - Yet it's more prevalent in artists, hence the "many?"  Ignis   Sep-30-09 11:29 PM   #60 
           - No. Certainly not a majority.  Odin2005   Sep-30-09 11:58 PM   #63 
              - Interesting. So perhaps 1/3 of that population? 1/4? (nt)  Ignis   Oct-01-09 01:31 AM   #71 
                 - If you look at rape and child sex abuse stats that's not an unreasonable assumption.  Hello_Kitty   Oct-01-09 01:49 AM   #72 
                    - But we're discussing "artsy types," not societal elites.  Ignis   Oct-01-09 02:07 AM   #73 
                    - That's part of the authoritarian mindset  TrogL   Oct-01-09 10:55 AM   #97 
     - That's what the fascists always say too. That's why the artists and intellectuals...  Gwendolyn   Oct-01-09 03:56 PM   #144 
        - Good riddance if they have those same opinions.  anonymous171   Oct-02-09 01:55 AM   #167 
        - What opinions? Or are you just in the mood to babble about anything that pops into your head?  Gwendolyn   Oct-02-09 02:00 AM   #169 
           - Directors are artists too you know.  anonymous171   Oct-02-09 02:04 AM   #170 
        - So thinking a child rapist should be punished is Fascism?  Odin2005   Oct-02-09 08:26 AM   #176 
           - This thread is not about Polanski, is it?  Gwendolyn   Oct-02-09 02:46 PM   #180 
              - I never said ALL, or even MOST artists are like that.  Odin2005   Oct-02-09 03:26 PM   #181 
                 - That's right. You said MANY artists have a sneering, elitist attitude.  Gwendolyn   Oct-03-09 12:54 PM   #186 
  - I just finished reading a bunch of Nietzsche  TrogL   Sep-30-09 05:02 PM   #28 
  - Woah! You're not supposed to READ it, just criticize it!  Ignis   Sep-30-09 05:12 PM   #31 
  - I'm reading Jung now - what does that make me?  TrogL   Sep-30-09 05:17 PM   #34 
     - A wife beating arsonist.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-30-09 05:26 PM   #36 
     - Why, a Nazi sympathizer, of course!  Ignis   Sep-30-09 06:04 PM   #42 
     - Pronounced "Young". Caught ya.  Cetacea   Sep-30-09 07:35 PM   #51 
     - how is it? nt  seabeyond   Sep-30-09 07:51 PM   #55 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-30-09 05:14 PM   #32 
  - Hm  Mixopterus   Sep-30-09 05:28 PM   #37 
  - lol n/t  Cetacea   Sep-30-09 07:33 PM   #50 
  - Right - I took you off ignore just to read that  TrogL   Oct-01-09 11:03 AM   #98 
  - thanks, TrogL  Duppers   Oct-01-09 04:01 AM   #75 
  - whatya talking about???  Duppers   Oct-01-09 03:51 AM   #74 
     - And here's another disgusting Nietzsche quote  Duppers   Oct-02-09 12:43 AM   #159 
  - How about you get a life?  harmonicon   Oct-01-09 12:29 AM   #65 
  - Artist using pedophilia as Art has run out of ideas & is a hack  barbiegeek   Oct-01-09 10:08 AM   #94 
  - ... Now pedophiles won't have to shlep to one of the world's foremost galleries of modern and  struggle4progress   Oct-01-09 02:26 PM   #118 
  - I predict greatness for this thread.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-30-09 03:20 PM   #11 
  - lol nt  subcomhd   Sep-30-09 04:29 PM   #25 
  - LOL +1  Coventina   Sep-30-09 05:32 PM   #38 
  - I'm amazed we've made it this far without a "TTIUWOP."  Ignis   Sep-30-09 06:09 PM   #43 
  - With the title, I'm sure that most have just used Google Images and searched.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-30-09 06:13 PM   #46 
  - +1  madeline_con   Oct-01-09 12:42 AM   #68 
  - aaaaaah, the Tate.  Zix   Sep-30-09 03:24 PM   #12 
  - I'm seeing a sick pattern here...  Odin2005   Sep-30-09 03:32 PM   #14 
  - that is what i have been saying. nt.  seabeyond   Sep-30-09 05:48 PM   #41 
  - Aaargh. No more Jordache commercials.  BlooInBloo   Sep-30-09 03:49 PM   #18 
  - It's An Interesting Photo  NashVegas   Sep-30-09 04:08 PM   #22 
  - I just looked at it online and I found it very dark. Not erotic (but I'm a woman),  OmmmSweetOmmm   Sep-30-09 06:11 PM   #44 
     - They were going for a faux raunch sort of look I guess.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-30-09 06:14 PM   #47 
     - Lighting, Makeup  NashVegas   Oct-01-09 07:30 AM   #88 
        - There is the ridiculous to it as well. The large overmade face/hair on the body  OmmmSweetOmmm   Oct-01-09 01:19 PM   #104 
           - It's supposed to be a slam of the Reagan years.  Gwendolyn   Oct-01-09 02:08 PM   #115 
              - Thanks for posting this. Very interesting. :)  OmmmSweetOmmm   Oct-03-09 12:57 PM   #187 
  - RIchard Prince didn't even do the original  buzzycrumbhunger   Sep-30-09 06:12 PM   #45 
  - Brooke Sheilds has made metric shit ton of money off her notoriety..  Fumesucker   Sep-30-09 07:17 PM   #48 
  - That's where I went wrong as a parent. I should have whored my 10yr-old daughters out  Maru Kitteh   Sep-30-09 11:51 PM   #62 
     - I didn't say I approve..  Fumesucker   Oct-01-09 04:27 AM   #78 
  - For all your protests the Gross photos are ironic references to  Monk06   Oct-01-09 05:26 AM   #86 
  - I don't think Brook Shields was 10 in 1983.  girl gone mad   Sep-30-09 07:28 PM   #49 
  - she was 18 in 1983  JI7   Oct-01-09 05:32 AM   #87 
  - Capitolizing on the Polanski blitz? She was fourteen in "The Blue Lagoon",c 1980.  Cetacea   Sep-30-09 07:42 PM   #52 
  - Some of these photos were published at the time.  onehandle   Sep-30-09 07:50 PM   #54 
  - yep, and guess what:  harmonicon   Oct-01-09 12:37 AM   #67 
     - Um. . . I was an art major  buzzycrumbhunger   Oct-01-09 12:49 AM   #69 
        - ok  harmonicon   Oct-01-09 08:44 AM   #91 
        - I agree  buzzycrumbhunger   Oct-02-09 03:19 AM   #171 
        - Actually it doesn't involve 99% bullshit and ego.  Hissyspit   Oct-01-09 03:56 PM   #145 
           - Astounding, indeed. This thread stinks of Junior High anti-intellectualism.  Ignis   Oct-01-09 05:01 PM   #150 
           - Yes, because child porn is oh-so scholarly.  Odin2005   Oct-02-09 08:31 AM   #177 
  - Tate Modern removes naked Brooke Shields picture after police visit  struggle4progress   Oct-01-09 12:54 AM   #70 
  - Good. The artist should be charged for child pornography.  Odin2005   Oct-01-09 08:16 AM   #89 
     - Some Walmart employees recently thought the same thing.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Oct-01-09 11:54 AM   #101 
     - This is a lot different from a naked baby picture.  Odin2005   Oct-01-09 03:17 PM   #131 
        - No it's not.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Oct-01-09 03:58 PM   #146 
           - One is sexual, one is not.  Odin2005   Oct-01-09 04:07 PM   #147 
              - Neither are sexual.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Oct-01-09 04:07 PM   #148 
     - ... Spiritual America is a photograph of a photograph. The original authorised by Shields's mother  struggle4progress   Oct-01-09 02:24 PM   #117 
  - It's already been shown in NYC at the Guggenheim - no problem  kskiska   Oct-01-09 08:48 AM   #92 
  - Last night the headline news in the UK was about child abuse..  jenniferj   Oct-02-09 05:22 AM   #173 
  - The original photo was taken for a Playboy publication  LibDemAlways   Oct-01-09 09:06 AM   #93 
  - no fuckin way.... part shot for playboy. huge, eeeeew. wow. hm. nt  seabeyond   Oct-01-09 10:14 AM   #95 
  - That can't be true. All the art snobs are in here defending the shit out of it.  redqueen   Oct-01-09 01:25 PM   #106 
  - For source, click on the Guardian link in Post #70. n/t  LibDemAlways   Oct-01-09 01:43 PM   #108 
  - Thanks... I was just reading it.  redqueen   Oct-01-09 01:45 PM   #110 
     - "Sugar and Spice, Surprising & Sensuous Images of Women" Hardcover, Playboy Press, 1976  Hannah Bell   Oct-02-09 01:54 AM   #166 
  - brother had playboy calender legs spread, in kitchen. art.... he told me, and mother, and his wife  seabeyond   Oct-01-09 01:47 PM   #111 
  - Good Lord...  redqueen   Oct-01-09 01:59 PM   #113 
  - Balls. Most are defending bohemians, postmodernism, and Nietzsche.  Ignis   Oct-01-09 02:28 PM   #119 
     - Ovaries.  redqueen   Oct-01-09 02:37 PM   #123 
        - But "all the art snobs are defending it" isn't idiotic hyperbole?  Ignis   Oct-01-09 03:07 PM   #127 
           - I stand corrected... SOME art snobs are defending it.  redqueen   Oct-01-09 03:10 PM   #129 
              - It sure is. Now then: Who? Where? Which post numbers? (nt)  Ignis   Oct-01-09 03:25 PM   #133 
                 - deleted  redqueen   Oct-01-09 03:37 PM   #139 
                 - Yes, I can read. I'm reading right now. It's thrilling!  Ignis   Oct-01-09 03:48 PM   #143 
                 - I'll defend it. I think the message behind the work is thought-provoking...  Gwendolyn   Oct-02-09 01:11 AM   #163 
                    - You're a brave woman, Gwendolyn. (nt)  Ignis   Oct-02-09 11:23 AM   #178 
  - Yep... it was taken for Playboy. Frickin hell.  redqueen   Oct-01-09 01:44 PM   #109 
  - Hard to believe that 30 years ago Playboy would even consider publishing  LibDemAlways   Oct-01-09 02:01 PM   #114 
  - Nope... and think about how many here seem to be waxing nostalgic about those days.  redqueen   Oct-01-09 02:15 PM   #116 
  - Who? Where? Which post numbers in this thread? (nt)  Ignis   Oct-01-09 02:29 PM   #120 
  - In this thread? Haven't seen it here.  redqueen   Oct-01-09 02:35 PM   #122 
     - And yet your brush is broad enough to cover multiple threads.  Ignis   Oct-01-09 03:08 PM   #128 
        - Because it's been in mulitple threads.  redqueen   Oct-01-09 03:11 PM   #130 
           - Would it have been so hard to say "in other threads?"  Ignis   Oct-01-09 03:22 PM   #132 
              - Nope...  redqueen   Oct-01-09 03:26 PM   #134 
                 - It's much easier to be catty than to examine one's own behavior.  Ignis   Oct-01-09 03:32 PM   #135 
                    - What in the everlovin fuck are you on about?  redqueen   Oct-01-09 03:37 PM   #138 
                       - It's annoying to be caught using broad-brush smears?  Ignis   Oct-01-09 03:47 PM   #141 
  - I'd hardly call it nostalgic  TrogL   Oct-01-09 02:49 PM   #126 
  - Very little awareness back then.  Gwendolyn   Oct-01-09 02:40 PM   #124 
  - Dupe...  Gwendolyn   Oct-01-09 02:40 PM   #125 
  - That's probably because they *didn't*. It was a book (not a porn mag),  Hannah Bell   Oct-02-09 01:45 AM   #164 
  - There is a seriously nasty pedophilia case hitting the headlines in the UK...  jenniferj   Oct-02-09 05:53 AM   #174 
  - i call bullshit. playboy didn't publish pictures of nude kids.  Hannah Bell   Oct-02-09 12:36 AM   #158 
     - Sugar and Spice was published by Playboy Press, the publishing  LibDemAlways   Oct-02-09 01:05 AM   #161 
        - It was a book.  Hannah Bell   Oct-02-09 01:10 AM   #162 
           - I know. It was published by Playboy Press. Apparently the  LibDemAlways   Oct-02-09 01:47 AM   #165 
              - "Little women," whatever it may be, wasn't a Playboy publication. The book published by playboy was  Hannah Bell   Oct-02-09 01:56 AM   #168 
  - i call bullshit.  Hannah Bell   Oct-02-09 12:35 AM   #157 
  - "Sugar and Spice, Surprising and Sensuous Images of Women" A book of nude art photos of women  Hannah Bell   Oct-02-09 01:03 AM   #160 
  - I read somewhere that they took it down.  BlooInBloo   Oct-02-09 12:33 AM   #156 
     - Look at the UK media this morning.....  jenniferj   Oct-02-09 05:58 AM   #175 
 

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