You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login

Reply #86: Indeed, not only citizens exist. [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
treelogger Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 02:20 AM
Response to Reply #69
86. Indeed, not only citizens exist.
Permanent residents of the US can buy and own guns. They have to jump through a few extra hoops (they have to prove that they are resident of a particular state for three months, whereas for US citizens this is assumed).

Even non-permanent residents of the US can buy guns, but the hoops get a little tighter (it depends on which visa class you are on, in some cases having a legal hunting license is required).

If you don't believe me, go to the ATF and department of state websites.

Let's not turn this into a citizen-versus-not debate, nor in one about skin color, racial origin, or such. There is enough discrimination and violence against monitorities in the world already (and in there I include recent immigrants). Let's not use this opportunity to beat up koreans, students, males, or some combination of these characteristics.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
  -I know--- I know--- It's not the gun that kills---- trumad  Apr-16-07 11:45 AM   #0 
  - This is my Gun this is my weapon one for shotting one is for fun  Monkeyman   Apr-16-07 11:48 AM   #1 
  - "Present arms."  TahitiNut   Apr-16-07 01:19 PM   #37 
     - boys!!!!!!!!!!!! (will be boys)  nadinbrzezinski   Apr-17-07 01:42 AM   #48 
        - Tell that to the parents of the 33 dead people. nt  zanne   Apr-17-07 08:33 AM   #53 
  - That's right. One could have just as easily killed 22 people with sling shot and pocket knife. n/t  FormerRushFan   Apr-16-07 11:48 AM   #2 
  - or an airplane and a box cutter  undeterred   Apr-16-07 11:49 AM   #5 
  - whatever.  trumad   Apr-16-07 11:49 AM   #6 
  - I was being sarcastic but wanted only to leave the subject line. n/t  FormerRushFan   Apr-16-07 12:21 PM   #33 
  - how?  Xenotime   Apr-17-07 11:27 AM   #60 
     - I was being sarcastic, but unfortunately there are those here who would say that seriously  FormerRushFan   Apr-17-07 01:41 PM   #78 
  - Hear! Hear!  cssmall   Apr-16-07 11:48 AM   # 
  - Looking at the video...  Virginia Dare   Apr-16-07 11:48 AM   #3 
  - Oh, and the other thing they'll say is: LET'S ARM THE STUDENTS! That'd be great, huh?  Redstone   Apr-16-07 11:49 AM   #4 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-16-07 11:55 AM   #12 
  - As a college professor, I wish I could carry a concealed firearm.  aikoaiko   Apr-16-07 12:14 PM   #28 
  - A teacher carry policy only means the crazies will shoot you first  jgraz   Apr-17-07 01:40 AM   #47 
  - Colleges are gun free zones.  Xenotime   Apr-17-07 11:27 AM   #61 
  - Yeah, I was asked about whether if a wild shooter came into a restaurant I was in, ...  damntexdem   Apr-16-07 01:54 PM   #41 
  - when will we ever learn ......  understandinglife   Apr-16-07 11:50 AM   #7 
  - Crazy beats out peace every time. nt  valerief   Apr-16-07 11:58 AM   #14 
  - Someone has to pull the trigger,  scrinmaster   Apr-16-07 11:50 AM   #8 
  - LOL! You are sooooooooo right. nt  valerief   Apr-16-07 11:59 AM   #15 
  - That means that "guns don't kill people".  zanne   Apr-17-07 08:44 AM   #54 
  - Tell that to the families of thse 20 dead people.  Redstone   Apr-16-07 12:12 PM   #27 
     - I imagine their anger  spoony   Apr-16-07 12:15 PM   #30 
     - I imagine you've never had a family member killed with a firearm.  Redstone   Apr-16-07 12:18 PM   #32 
        - I imagine your assumptions have little to do with  spoony   Apr-16-07 12:32 PM   #34 
     - You could save a lot more people if you outlawd cars.  Firepit 462   Apr-16-07 01:17 PM   #36 
        - That may soon be necessary because of global warming.  damntexdem   Apr-16-07 02:18 PM   #43 
           - "But that trigger gives a reach that other weapons (including automobiles) do not have. "  Ghost in the Machine   Apr-17-07 01:03 AM   #46 
              - Yeah, but...  warren pease   Apr-17-07 02:11 PM   #79 
  - what's that sound?  maxsolomon   Apr-16-07 11:52 AM   #9 
  - schools are seperate from the rest of the country  NightWatcher   Apr-16-07 11:52 AM   #10 
  - or are we made vicious by inequality and injustice? Do we reap what we sew?  rainy   Apr-16-07 12:01 PM   #20 
  - Okay, so guns don't kill people; people kill people: But guns sure do  Phredicles   Apr-16-07 11:53 AM   #11 
  - Actually, its not the guns its the bullets.  King Coal   Apr-16-07 12:57 PM   #35 
  - Gun owners should be responsible for their weapons AT ALL TIMES.  baldguy   Apr-16-07 11:56 AM   #13 
  - because illicit drugs are illegal...  ProdigalJunkMail   Apr-16-07 12:00 PM   #18 
     - Did I say "illegal drugs"?  baldguy   Apr-16-07 12:11 PM   #26 
        - two things...  ProdigalJunkMail   Apr-16-07 12:14 PM   #29 
           - Chicago, New York, Washington DC an other large cities have made it a crime to buy & sell guns.  baldguy   Apr-16-07 01:33 PM   #38 
              - if that gun is sold illegally  ProdigalJunkMail   Apr-17-07 06:00 AM   #50 
              - Sorry, nonsensical comparison.  treelogger   Apr-18-07 02:15 AM   #85 
  - I'm with you on this  Connonym   Apr-16-07 11:59 AM   #16 
  - The Pro-Gun posters will be advocating an armed campus as their answer for this...  Junkdrawer   Apr-16-07 12:00 PM   #17 
  - Yes, being unarmed in this situation makes sense.  Wcross   Apr-16-07 12:10 PM   #25 
     - Well, it wasn't an unarmed campus, was it?  jgraz   Apr-17-07 12:53 AM   #45 
        - News flash- criminals break laws & rules.  Wcross   Apr-17-07 10:10 AM   #55 
           - News Flash - This was a CRAZY PERSON, not a criminal  jgraz   Apr-17-07 10:33 AM   #58 
           - Murder is a criminal act.  Wcross   Apr-17-07 11:17 AM   #59 
              - You're not debating, you're spewing NRA talking points  jgraz   Apr-17-07 11:49 AM   #64 
              - I am spewing facts.  Wcross   Apr-17-07 12:12 PM   #68 
                 - Your definition of "fact" is interesting  jgraz   Apr-17-07 12:25 PM   #71 
                    - Facts  Wcross   Apr-17-07 12:56 PM   #72 
                    - Yay, you know what a fact is. Now look up "anecdote".  jgraz   Apr-17-07 01:23 PM   #75 
                       - One parting thought.  Wcross   Apr-17-07 01:31 PM   #76 
                          - Nice...have fun with your metal penis  jgraz   Apr-17-07 01:37 PM   #77 
                             - ah, a sign of your retarded emotional maturity perhaps?  Wcross   Apr-17-07 06:30 PM   #83 
                    - April, 2007.  Wcross   Apr-17-07 01:09 PM   #73 
              - Oh, and while murder may be criminal, a legal alien buying two handguns isn't  jgraz   Apr-17-07 12:00 PM   #65 
                 - A receipt in HIS name?  Wcross   Apr-17-07 12:17 PM   #69 
                    - Go ahead, grasp at that last straw  jgraz   Apr-17-07 01:22 PM   #74 
                    - Indeed, not only citizens exist.  treelogger   Apr-18-07 02:20 AM   #86 
           - I'm a veteran of the gun control wars and I know all the talking points on both sides, however...  warren pease   Apr-17-07 02:49 PM   #80 
  - Guns don't kill people. People with moustaches kill people.  dave123williams   Apr-16-07 12:01 PM   #19 
  - Weapons of mass destruction don't kill people. People kill people.  elocs   Apr-16-07 12:02 PM   #21 
  - thats what I am thinking too n/t  LSK   Apr-16-07 12:03 PM   #22 
  - Guns prime aggression  demga   Apr-16-07 12:03 PM   #23 
  - Monkeys with guns...  Forkboy   Apr-16-07 12:03 PM   #24 
  - no guns allowed on campus.  nannah   Apr-16-07 12:18 PM   #31 
  - But it would be alot harder to kill that many with a knife.  mmonk   Apr-16-07 01:41 PM   #39 
  - No, it's the availability of the gun to the shooter that kills.  damntexdem   Apr-16-07 01:51 PM   #40 
  - You might like this:  blondeatlast   Apr-16-07 01:56 PM   #42 
  - People kill people but guns make it alot quicker and easier-  Bluerthanblue   Apr-16-07 02:37 PM   #44 
  - Guns dont gun people down- Gunmen with guns gun the people down.  Dr Fate   Apr-17-07 03:52 AM   #49 
  - But the victims would have more of a fighting chance if the gunman  raccoon   Apr-17-07 08:29 AM   #51 
  - Wrong again silly Liberals- the batman-er- I mean gunman could THROW the bat into the crowd.  Dr Fate   Apr-17-07 12:04 PM   #66 
  - Whatever.....  trumad   Apr-17-07 10:31 AM   #57 
     - Do I really have to put a "sarcasm" thingy on everything?  Dr Fate   Apr-17-07 12:06 PM   #67 
        - Sorry-- I responded with out checking it was you..  trumad   Apr-17-07 12:25 PM   #70 
  - Gun people always have an excuse...  zanne   Apr-17-07 08:32 AM   #52 
  - It's true that if guns are left to themselves they only shoot tin cans and squirrels.  Kablooie   Apr-17-07 10:28 AM   #56 
  - It's not the gun, IT'S THE MENTAL DISTURBANCE!  EstimatedProphet   Apr-17-07 11:30 AM   #62 
  - Yes, but you can't fix mental disturbance!  tomreedtoon   Apr-17-07 03:13 PM   #81 
     - I agree, however...  EstimatedProphet   Apr-17-07 03:34 PM   #82 
        - "Bowling for Columbine" nailed it; sociology.  tomreedtoon   Apr-18-07 01:45 AM   #84 
           - I agree  EstimatedProphet   Apr-18-07 06:41 AM   #87 
  - YGuns + XPeople = greater likelihood of death. Simple equation.  izzybeans   Apr-17-07 11:44 AM   #63 

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC